Shouldn't the Republicans be congratulating themselves?

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   Cassie Smithposted 11 years ago

   Shouldn't the Republicans be congratulating themselves?
   
   And laughing at the dummycrats and Obama for the turd legislation that Obamcare is revealed to be?  Really, the Republicans have a golden moment right now and they don't know how to take advantage of it.  In addition the September jobs report is just plain crappy.  There are so many who haven't worked for over a year that they aren't even being counted as unemployed any more.  Who will be our modern Reagan?

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   dashingscorpioposted 11 years ago

   I think people are tired of partisan politics! This is not a game for most people!
   And yet we make the economic recovery all about elections. We can't work together to make a strong recovery because that would give Obama and the democrats too much sway for 2016.
   So today instead of both parties representing what is in America's best interest they do what they feel is in their party's best interest! Neither party has no reason to celebrate blowing $24 billion and risking the nations credit rating over a law that passed both houses and was upheld by the Supreme court! Hopefully the Democrats won't try to pull this same crap if we ever have a Republican president in office who signs a bill into law they dislike. Total insanity!
   Obama is a millionaire just like most of these politicians! That's not going to change. If Republicans don't start offering new ideas and alternative programs then they had better get ready for President Hilary Clinton in 2016!
   Ronald Reagan came to the white house with his own agenda and ideas. Today's Republicans and Tea Party people bring nothing but a hammer to the table. That approach will never win a (national) election.
   When Reagan was in office he and Tip O'Neill disagreed on a lot of things but they also made compromises to move the country forward! There was an element of mutual respect between them. Ronald Regan would have never let one faction of the party highjack the whole party. Awhile back I wrote a hub about gridlock in American politics. http://dashingscorpio.hubpages.com/hub/ … whatwewant

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Both parties didn't waste 24 billion, Republicans did. Time to be honest, or we never change. Miz Bachmann said R's had never been so happy. We must deal from a place of REALITY. And Dems never "pulled this crap" they had to endure Bush, as did we al

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I agree with you dashsco that both parties back then were not so antagonistic towards each other and found some way to compromise.  But what I liked about Reagan is that he was able to promote conservative values without tearing down the other side.

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I disagree that Reagan didn't tear down the other side. He was callous towards the poor (we're cutting their allowance), and scabbed the unions. He took out solar panels from White House roof..why? To sneer at alternative energy. ADF:"Welfare Queen".

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      dashingscorpioposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      lovemychris, Whether one agrees or disagrees with Ronald Reagan it cannot be argued that he helped make the nation stronger than what took place under Jimmy Carter. In 1984 he was re-elected in a landslide! Mainly because of "The Reagan Democrats"

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe because they fell into that false-flag hoopla that Carter was weak and allowing Iran to bully us, when in REALITY, HW Bush made deal WITH Iran to hold those hostages longer to help Reagan get in. Amazes me how we repeat history: Now ACA-Demon.

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      The Frog Princeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      it's going to take a hammer to straighten out the mess Progressives have once again crated.  Carter was the last one and this nutjob named Obama is worse than Carter ever thought of being.

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   junksellerposted 11 years ago

   I don't know, are we talking about the mythical super-hero Reagan who personally slew communism with a sword and flew around the country showering us with money? Or the real Reagan, who was willing to compromise and negotiate with the Democrats, who passed several significant tax bills, who increased the debt ceiling 18 times for a 67% total increase, and who increased government spending (by percentage) more than Obama has?
   
   If you are looking for the superhero, then I think you are going to be disappointed and if you're looking for the real thing, what is the point? The modern Tea Party (and much of the modern GOP) would call the real Reagan a treasonous RINO. There may still be Reagan-like politicians around it is just that today you'll probably have to look for someone wearing blue; the red tent has been largely purged of sanity and moderates.

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      "Russell Price is senior economist at Ameriprise Financial Inc. (AMP) in Detroit. He forecast the shutdown would shave as much as 0.5 percentage point from fourth-quarter gross domestic product."
      ......Congratulations Republicans.

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   Josakposted 11 years ago

   Socialized healthcare legislation has never been repealed... Ever.
   
   I wouldn't celebrate too much

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      So I guess the death panels won't be repealed...ever.  You must be so glad.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Well death panels don't actually exist in any way that they did not before so...

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The only death panels I'm aware of are the insurance company caps which allowed people to die when their allotment of funds ran out. That is gone now, thanks to the ACA.

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      To Josak, it's the new feature of Obamacare.  Now that this turd law has passed, we are finding out what's in it. LOL!

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      The Frog Princeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It doesn't have to be repealed.  It will die from stupidity.

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      junksellerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      The imaginary death panels can imaginarily be repealed anytime you choose to rejoin reality.

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Sarah Palin introduced the imaginary death panels......stupid isn't the half of it. Try demented.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Nor has it died EVER.

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      tbHistorianposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      UNDER THE LAW a monopoly is established that states you may choose any participating primary care provider who ACCEPTS you as a patient. Doctors are opting out of the exchange program. This means death panel has been established by the law.

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   IDONOposted 11 years ago

   Not disrespecting Ronald Reagan, we should examine something before nominating him to economic sainthood. Ronald Reagan came into office at the perfect time that he could go nowhere but up. He came at a time when the smoke had just settled enough to try to repair the debacle created by the REPUBLICAN Richard M. Nixon and his price and wage freezes. He certainly had his hands full trying to exercise damage control, but did not move us beyond that. The idea of him being an iconic president in that sense is nothing more than an illusion. Since we virtually had no president between Nixon and Reagan, but did have a 7 or 8 year separation between the two, it looks like Reagan created the whole recovery when in fact he was the first to clean up Nixon's mess.
        If Republicans believe that Obama is making as big of mess as Nixon did, who do they offer that is capable of cleaning it up? No one.

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think you're forgetting how dummycrat president Carter made things so much worse.  But it's not surprising that you would skip over one of the worst presidents in our history.

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      The Frog Princeposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Do your history work on Jimmie Carter and then understand what Reagan had to straighten out.  I was very much right in the middle of era and old enough to have lived it.

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      IDONOposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Cassie: And I'm not surprised you forgot "Repo"blicans Ford, Bush and Bush. I don't see them at the top of the list either. When Republicans and their Tea Party buddies can solve their own internal issues, they can be viable. Quit playing blame game.

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      Cassie Smithposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      LOL @ IDONO. You should take your own advice. Your entire post was blaming the Republicans for everything.  You must be Obama in disguise. LOL!

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      IDONOposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Cassie: Reading your comments throughout this whole question leads me to believe that you are just chronically pissed off. Is the sarcastic, smart-ass attitude yours alone, or that of the entire Republican Party? Tea Party would love you!  Not  LOL

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   Old Poolmanposted 11 years ago

   If anyone tried to run a business exactly the way our government is run, that business would not make it even one year before they closed the doors.

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      That's the problem with your party,IMO.You all think a country should be looked on as a business! It's not. It's a bond we make together to live as a people,not a profit-churning venture.As it is now, he Robber Barons have 90% taken over.muststopthem

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      IDONOposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, Old Poolman, our government, in many ways, learned from many of our businesses, large and small.  I don't have numbers, but manu businesses don't survive on profit. They survive on cash flow. Our govt has plenty of that.

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      gmwilliamsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      One year?  Let's say the business would close in 3 MONTHS if it was run the way the present"administration/government" was run!

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   tbHistorianposted 11 years ago

   Congrats Cassie - you have earned the gold seal of approval from patriots.
   Republicans shouldered the socialist tactics of the Democrats very well during the debates.  The House submitted some very good bills that the Senate refused to accept.  The President stated he would not compromise. 
   So, the government was shut down.  Nothing was lost during this timeframe as not a single person lost anything during that time.  Even with the lies about default, patriots continued to recognize them for the propaganda they represented.
   The ACA is now on the front sniffer creating a staunch aroma as everyone learns that health insurance will rise drastically for the middle class.  And many are discovering that they cannot "keep the coverage you have if you like it".
   While the left continues to push their "Rules for Radicals"' agenda, the nation is quickly discovering the same thing all failed socialists have - you can't beat free flowing economic capitalism.
   We will need an Eisenhower or one of the Roosevelts if we are to turn the tide on this stink bomb that has risen to demonic levels.  This requires an individual who easily supports the majority of the people, not a personal vendetta.  The 2014 election cycle will provide the catalyst for one to rise to the occasion.
   The taxpayers have spent over 1 billion dollars on a failed automation to support a failure that will cost more than a trillion dollars a year to support the huge government created by the obamy-rats.

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      lovemychrisposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      No comment on the 24 billion spent on the partisan shut-down? I notice Boehner's Gym was allowed to stay open, and his salary continued. Cantor celebrated with expensive wine you paid for.....where is their "sacrifice"? ......Lot of talk, NO WALK.

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