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   vveaseyposted 8 years ago

   White cops shoot blacks because blacks are violent? Or White Cops are racists? What's your view?
   
   Among those we do know were shot by police, black teens were 21 times more likely to be shot dead than their white counterparts.
   “The 1,217 deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males in that age range died at the hands of police,” a new ProPublica report explains, noting that if whites were killed at the same ratio there would have been another 185 white deaths, just during that three-year period, just of those in that narrow age range.
   
   

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   tamarawilhiteposted 8 years ago

   Cops are not killing blacks at a rate higher than their interaction with cops.
   
   Does Race Play a Role When Police Kill Civilians?
   http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 … not-proven
   
   The issue of blacks killed by cops seems worse than it is because of biased reporting.
   Police kill more whites than blacks, but minority deaths generate more outrage
   http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 … inority-d/
   
   And most of those cops kill are not innocent hands up situations.
   The majority of these victims had a gun or "were armed or otherwise threatening the officer with potentially lethal force"
   Reference: http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-st … on-bandler
   
   The odds a child will join a gang, drop out of school, become an addict or mentally ill are three times higher if a child has a single mother versus two married parents. For whites, illegitimacy is 25%; for blacks, 75%. When you have three times as many illegitimate, fatherless households, you have three times the rate of crime and other bad life outcomes. No one talks about this root cause of violence and poverty in the black community, choosing to blame whites instead.
   The illegitimacy in the black community was 25% in the 1960s, and crime was far lower - even though Jim Crow / segregation was still the law. If crime was due to white oppression, it would have been much higher then than it is now; the opposite is true.
   
   Nor can we say crime is higher but blacks are more likely to be arrested.
   Black on black crime and black on white crime rates are far higher than white on black crime or white on white crime.
   http://www.amren.com/news/2015/07/new-d … ent-crime/
   
   When a population commits far more crimes per capita, it will have more interactions with police, some of them violent. Yet the odds that any of those encounters results in a shooting are lower, because cops are more afraid of bad repercussions if they kill a black than a white. But it gets reported far more often and repeatedly when the rare black person is shot by cops than the more frequent killings of whites or Hispanics by cops, because it fits the "cops are racist" narrative.
   
   If the black community rebuilt its families and regained control of its children, the rate of crime and police shootings would drop dramatically. But it is easier to blame whites instead of face the facts or do the work.

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      MizBejabbersposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Well said, I won't make a comment because I couldn't have said it better.

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      wba108@yahoo.composted 8 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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      Dont Taze Me Broposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      All true TW but the whole truth is the blm movement is astroturf, those promoting it are either socialist/communists or exploited suckers. http://www.aim.org/special-report/reds- … es-matter/

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   bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years ago

   I  think that if you are a hammer everything looks like a nail. The same is true for racism. It seems like the people making the racist claims are the ones inciting racism.
   
   Statistics doesn't tell the story, each incident has its own story.
   Also the minorities seem to have larger numbers in gangs, and gang do more criminal activities and they are involved in more dangerous crimes.
   
   The media certainly wants a story so they go with anything that can be made to look like racism.

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      already

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      bradmasterOCcalposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      junko
      I tried placing your one word comment into my comment and it is like dividing by zero with the same result??

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      My bad Brad, two day ago my comment to Eric ended with the letter "A" my placement of the word "already " was misplaced. I don't play in forums too much and I sometimes get lost and trustpass

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   junkoposted 8 years ago

   So far this year 9 Black women have been shot and killed by the police nationwide. I think that is more than any other race of women to die in America this year with a third of this year to go. If A mad Big Dog had bit a child and four police came on the scene and one or two pulled their guns and the dog was shot fifteen time as it lay on the ground, the officers would be charged with Excessive Use of Force. Animal lovers would be up in arms about killing an unarmed dog that way because, Animal Lives Matter more than Black Lives Matter to a curtain kind of people.

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      not die.

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      ptosisposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      PR exec. Steve Sharp shows SWAT how to resurrect their public image with one simple rule: don't shoot the dog: https://youtu.be/IXCKCNlHCcE

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      ptosis thank you for proving to me, I am not a racist but I am a realist. Your link though satire represent the reality that Black Lives Matter less than a Dog Life to curtain police and their supporters.

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   Ericdierkerposted 8 years ago

   I can only speak to my greater community of San Diego County. There are minimum white gangs. Weird ones that are mostly just incarcerated and form gangs there. We used to have motorcycle white gangs but they are pretty much extinct. There is some activity among relatively small disorganized Aryan brotherhood types. But nowhere where they own a hood.
   But we have huge numbers of blacks and Hispanic gangs that control territory and criminal enterprises. A black youth is something like 5 times more likely to belong to a gang than a white youth. The romanticizing of being a gangster is overwhelmingly among black youths. There really are no significant drug trade areas controlled by whites.
   Draw your own conclusions as to cause and effect.

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric when there is no jobs nor hope in any hood black or white theres  crime&violence When White women&children are killed bycops there Will be violence by constitutional right I conclude that unarmed men women&children of any race should

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Agreed. So why is that hopeless condition more prevalent for Blacks rather than whites? With a Black President it is hard to claim bigotry or discrimination. Is it the father situation?

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      EricThe Fire Power racism the power of money rule making law making white privilege & everything nice for Whites makes for hopeless conditions in the black hood A Black POTUS caused bigotry&racism on The Hill. Why you asked me what you know a

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      Ericdierkerposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      I found this interesting. In my community the middle aged white guy is the last to get a job. It is just reality. Here in So So Cal. The Hispanic is priority one and Black second. We are obsessed with minority hiring. No habla Espanol no trabajar.

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      Eric the GOP has been promising jobs creation since the 2010 mid term election.The jobs created during the Obama Presidency seem to be below what a white middleclass middleaged is happy with. The minority underclass will take two low paying jobs.

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   ptosisposted 8 years ago

   
   
   "The historical function of police brutality is in its role as the armed guards of the ruling classes. It is class warfare. It is not a black or white thing, it's a blue thing and citizens have good reason to be afraid of this oppressive system." - http://hub.me/akxph

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      junkoposted 8 years agoin reply to this

      ptosis you are 100% right its not a Black or White thing its class warfare.  Dumb&blind White racist don't even know they are in the same class as Blacks poor jobless dependentTheir children are on drugs&dealing in mass murder cops is coming

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   wingedcentaurposted 8 years ago

   I will simply recommend what seems to be a very good book, though I haven't been able to get my hands on it yet.
   
   Elizabeth Hinton (professor sociology): "From the War on Poverty to the War on Crime: The Making of Mass Incarceration in America."
   
   You can watch her give talks about her book and the conclusions she reached in doing the research for it on YouTube, of course.

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