Do you believe Trump was wiretapped before the election?
The Trump administration has spoken out loudly that Obama had him wiretapped. There has been a wierd non-denial from an Obama spokesman. Thoughts ?
That would seem preposterous wouldn't it?
But it just so happens I recently watched some Frontline pieces that gave a lot of depth and understanding to what is going on here.
Watch this clip from about 50:45 for a couple of minutes:
And the first few minutes of this piece:
Now imagine if you were a billionaire, and you had to sit through a ten minute degrading attack like what Obama did to him, in front of all the 'in-crowd' elites, if someone took the low road like that, and used their platform to attack you, in a place where you couldn't stand up and defend yourself. Not very nice is it?
So if Obama was willing to go out of his way, not to take just a couple of shots at him, but to totally humiliate him in front of a thousand influential people... I think he would also be willing to sick the FBI, NSA, and anyone else against him, as he seemingly despised Trump more than enough to justify it to himself.
Honestly, we should be thankful to Obama, if not for his taking the low road, and working so hard to humiliate Trump... there might not be a President Trump today... we would probably have a President Clinton.
Wanting revenge was probably a strong motivator for Trump.
Ken, it seems logical, but I don't see Trump doing much in the revenge dept. And the NSA has been tapping into phone lines, emails and anything else they can tap. it seems that not only could they have tapped Trump, they have all the Clinton emails
By revenge I mean that he ran for President, won the election despite every Obama loving liberal doing everything to stop it... from the MSM to the NSA... and now Trump will undo everything he can that Obama did the last 8 yrs, that's revenge.
Ken, sorry, I took revenge to mean in anger. He is not being mean about it just doing as you say rewinding the mess from Obama. Can we agree on Karma. :)Thanks
Aaaaand reports that the Obama wiretap is true are already coming out:
Ken, imo, the national intel agencies have gone rogue and they are now running like rats in sewer that is being flooded. They fear that president Trump will find and prosecute them for Treason. Thanks
I just watched that news video & I could be right about it being a 'legal' wiretap. If that is the case, it would seem that they found nothing wrong - which is a good thing, right? That might actually make me feel a bit better about T-man, LoL!
I think ultimately that is why it was done... it stirred things up so much, the highest ranking members of intel came out and said there was no Russia - Trump collusion... which means this witch hunt by Dems in Congress has no merit.
Yeah, both GOP & Dems play games to negatively affect each other in an attempt to sway the people - plus Trump does plenty of direct manipulating. Since complaining about his concerning disposition doesnt work, they may be using Russian excuses.
Somebody ought to tell Trump to shut up about this. If he was wiretapped, it may well be evidence that he was in touch with the Russians, which would trigger the NSA doing exactly that.
I am just giving an opinion, but I feel President Trump has been working very hard to stop the attacks on his family, and himself have had to endure. Let's not forget he is president, with information at his fingertips, and lot's of people that may hold a grudge against Obama. I think he waited until just the right time to drop this bomb. I had always imagined Hillary Clinton would be his first war casualty. I might just be wrong, it just might be Obama... Who would guess, although way back when Obama roasted him in front of millions, a fuse may have been lit, a long fuse but a well burning one. Hopefully he has the proof to prove his allegation or many will lose faith in him. I think Monday may be day that will go down in history.
After all the corruption and lawlessness seen in the Obama administration, it certainly would be reasonable to assume he tapped Trump's phone's.
If Obama was willing to allow his underlings to supply the Mexican cartel with guns and use the IRS to harass conservative organizations before the 2012 elections, why should anything stop him from ordering any illegal activity including tapping the phones of a serious political opponent?
"After all the corruption and lawlessness seen in the Obama administration" Any indictments? Do you know which administration had the most indictments? Reagan
I think that the Reagan administration was used by future administrations as a tool to evade getting caught
Let us not forget that Obama:
Used the IRS to illegally target conservative groups;
Secretly gathered phone records from Associated Press journalist;
Denied judicial process to four U.S. citizens and had them killed;
Fired Inspector General for discovering that Obama’s friend had embezzled government funds;
Forced Internet service providers to install surveillance software by threatening them with contempt of court if they did not oblige him;
Violated campaign finance laws & was fined $375,000 by the Federal Election Commission;
The list goes on and on.
President Trump has information at his fingertips that we cannot possibly imagine. Obama badly wanted his legacy continued through HRC. He even said he would consider it a "personal insult" if the African American community failed to turn out for her.
Anyway, given Obama's casual abuse of power, I would not put it past him to have done anything possible to make that happen, including wiretapping Trump Tower to try to find some dirt on him.
Remember J. Edgar Hoover? He didn't let a little thing like "the law" stop him from abusing his power. Neither has Obama, in many cases. Sorry folks, just keeping it real.
So, we shall see....
It's ironic that a bunch of liars and connivers are now all finger pointing - regular people are all like "what ?????"
Yves... and another part of this puzzle, John Podesta received 1 BILLION rubles from Russia... the Clintons through their Foundation, Uranium One, etc. received hundreds of millions from Russia... maybe they asked the Russian Amb. to set up Trump.
Do you have sources for any of these accusations?
Obama's abuse of power, blah blah blah & just like every potus before him each in their own way. They ALL have a list, some longer & more incriminating than others. Trump had a LONG list BEFORE he started, which is why people don't like him.
All well known info Kathleen, all it takes is a Google Search and some reading. Joule Unlimited & Podesta & Putin... Uranium One & Clinton... John Podesta & Putin... Clinton Foundation & Putin. Have fun.
Ken, neither Kathleen or Catherine provide any sources for any of their claims, ever, yet suddenly, they're interested in sources. Actually, it's their way of diverting attention away from Obama's illegal activities. It's part of the Lib playbook.
Yes, it is fairly simple to find the information, so that is why I answer as I do, I give the key words or sentence so others can go search and find out for themselves, even if the person I am replying to never will.
I hear you, Ken. After awhile, it gets too hard to listen to all the misinformation being thrown around so casually, and so one feels compelled to speak up.
I've never asked you for a source, I've read the things Ken mentioned. I also did my homework on Trump AFTER he was elected cuz I didn't really care b4. I could see his hatemongering & wasn't interested in learning more about him until I had to.
I wouldn't doubt it at all. It is very plausible that he was wiretapped. All politicians are dirty, so this certainly wouldn't come as a surprise to me if it turns out to be true.
yes,i believe. Trump really was wiretapped before the election?
Although it might not have been President Obama who placed the order, I do think that President Trump and the people close to him were ABSOLUTELY wiretapped before the election!
The new evidence coming out suggests that the Trump team was under surveillance after the election, so it's not too much of a stretch to consider the possibility of some surveillance before the election as well.
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