Seriously, is this something anyone cares about?
This was something President Trump engaged in before he was President, so it shouldn't factor into anything other than another indictment of his character.
Remember, he cheated on his first wife with his second wife, so having sex with a porn star isn't exactly a surprise even though Melania had just given birth to Barron.
What is perhaps most disturbing is that apparently President Trump made a big deal about how much Stormy Daniels resembled Ivanka. One supposes that this is the reason he had the affair with her.
That said, who Trump sleeps with is his own business.
Are people able to read or do research? I'm beginning to wonder. Here is a link to the complaint filed by the attorney for Stormy Daniels with the California court. Now, can anyone tell me what is wrong with it? What's missing? Why are the exhibits provided nearly useless? This is really a joke. Here this porn start is getting all this attention, talking about her planned strip show tour and people are taking her serious. She works in an industry that is like politics....it doesn't attract the most moral or honest people. Read it, here it is. This is proof of nothing other than gullible people will believe anything.
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/03/0 … plaint.pdf
Again, as always, nobody comments on the complaint filed in California as I have provided a link to it above. Again...does anyone read? Is anyone able to research allegations in an effort to prove facts? NO facts exist he had an affair with a porn star....it is ALL allegations nothing has been proven. I am beginning to wonder if there are people who can actually comprehend the difference.
I read the link.
It says he tried to silence their relationship with hush money. The information reveals that he did not try to silence her with money. That an agreement was drawn up to get her to be quiet for the sake of his winning the election, but he did not and never has gone though with it.
I read an interview in a certain magazine, can't remember which. The S-Lady said that she thought this and that about Donald and that she was not very impressed with him and that he was not very smooth in bed … was she making it up?
Then why did Trump's inept lawyer apparently secure a home equity loan and or line of credit to pay stormy over 100K for her services rendered and or hush money just prior to the 2016 election? And why did the bank that processed Cohen's cash transfer flag the transaction as suspicious, and why did Cohen use an LLC in Delaware to cover up the transaction as reported, and why did Cohen use Trump's E-Mail signature and why did Sarah Huckleberry say STD Donald won some kind of phantom arbitration against stormy?
If you think this cover up is exploding now, just wait until the photos, films and audio tapes come out if there are any. Yes I know the films would be pretty gross with Donald as star and yes yes I know, the southern bible belter so called Christians will make up some lame excuse for dismissing this abomination, like they usually do, but the rest of us could be shocked.
Again, no proof...just allegations. Nothing about that mentioned in the complaint. Nothing you mentioned is part of an official record such as when you file a complaint.
-Cohen says Stormy Daniels payment was transferred from his home equity line
President Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen said he transferred $130,000 to adult-film actress Stormy Daniels from his home equity line as scrutiny rises over the reported nondisclosure payment from October 2016.
-Cohen told ABC News that "the funds were taken from my home equity line and transferred internally to my LLC account in the same bank." "...I transferred money from one account at that bank into my LLC and then wired said funds to Ms. Clifford’s attorney in Beverly Hills, California."
-Cohen on Friday also sought to downplay the use of his Trump Organization email.
“I sent emails from the Trump Org email address to my family, friends as well as Trump business emails. I basically used it for everything. I am certain most people can relate,” he said.
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_Cre … 0(002).pdf
-"I can share that the arbitration was won in the President's favor," Sanders said. "I would refer you to the President's outside counsel on any details beyond that."
-Hush Agreement: "2.1 Prior to entering into this Agreement, PP came into possession of certain 'Confidential Information' pertaining to DD, as more fully defined below, only some of which is in tangible form, which includes, but is not limited to information, certain still images and/or text messages which were authored by or relate to DD."
Thanks Island Bites for corroborating just about everything I asserted in my previous comment. The truth can be stubborn, and when republicans simply try to deny the truth as fox news trains them to do, it really hurts nobody but themselves.
To date, the truth is doing a pretty good job of indicting and imprisoning Mr. Trump's inner circle and his Russian pals and the Mueller investigation appears to be far from over.
Some individuals just don't seem to realize that you'll never find ALL facts and or evidence within a legal complaint, the document does however contain an outline of why the law suit is filed. I think by now, everyone understands Mr. Trump's dangerously dysfunctional character, his filthy STD infested universe, and why the overwhelming majority of rational, logical thinking human beings hate him like no ther.
But here's something nobody's talking about, it's something very interesting I took away from lame Mr. Cohen's statement that asserts the 130K in hush or 'PLAYTIME Payment' or 'Pay for Play" money if you will, wired from his bank account directly into stormy's attorney's acct in Beverly Hills, was taken from his home equity loan and or line of credit secured presumably on his property. REALLY? a New York Attorney who's been practicing for years in the big apple and apparently has filthy face Trump as a client is so destitute that he needs to pull 130K out of home equity? So what's the deal with Cohen? Is he a drug addict or what? Where's all his cash, hidden in offshore accounts? I mean really, what reputable New York attorney doesn't have a few hundred thousand dollars just hanging out of his-her ears for fun?
Cohen's story stinks just like his client.
I mean seriously, I know background actors who have more than 130K saved up in a bank account but STD Donny's long time big apple attorney needs to leverage his property to cough up 130K to cover up a sinful and perhaps unlawful act by his egregiously unappealing client? Somethings very wrong here, this whole story goes from bad to worse every day.
Mike you got it totally right but a close look at the media on this explains just what hypocrites they are and why they push these stories solely to provide meat for an uninformed, non-discerning, zombie like electorate which makes up the Democrat party. This clip says it all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKYtQ-eNYmY If these people would take 15 minutes to watch it they'd learn something but they won't. 8 minutes in gives you real analysis of the Stormy Daniels interview.
I read an interview in a certain magazine, can't remember which. The S-Lady said that she thought this and that about Donald and that she was not very impressed with him and that he was not very smooth in bed … was she making it up?
My truth - If it was consensual sex, I cold care less. Stormy stated in many interviews she had consensual sex with Trump. This does not shock me, many men have poor morals when it comes to sex.... As did many of our presidents. At this point in American's history I care more about problem solving, and he is doing that. Very simple, very apparent. I am not sure how anyone can continue with all the negativity in regards to the president when he is keeping many of his campaign promises, and works daily to try and solve some of the on going problems of he country.
I don't condone the behavior. However, one would be hard pressed to find many presidents that did not have extra marital affairs. Our society has permitted this for a very long time. I look at agenda, and his accomplishments. I could care less about his personal life. I don't need an all talk president, that rarely does anything. I need a president that accomplishes what he sets out to do. resident Trump continues to keep his campaign promises, and does it against great odds.
I think it's stupid that his wife doesn't divorce him.
I'm Canadian, so allow me to comment as an outside observer.
To just sum up what the issue is for me personally, it's not an indictment of the character of Trump so much as it is an indictment in the character of the Republican Party. The fact that democrat politicians get crucified by Republicans for similar scandals both inside and outside of office, but overlook it or even defend it when it's one of their own shows that their principles lay only in securing and maintaining power and not on any other moral or economic principle.
I mean, the maintaining of power is a part of politics, but it's not just the politicians, it's the more vocal of citizens and voters. It's a sign of how partisanship and loyalty to a party over principles or values is becoming a problem.
Now, I haven't observed this nearly as strongly in the Democrat Party and it's base, but Trump has been extremely polarizing, so it wouldn't surprise me if the Democrats were willing to blindly support nominees in the future who didn't act or campaign on Democrat values in order to try and push Trump out of office. This is an issue about partisanship, but I don't think it's a strictly partisan issue.
So as an outside observer, do I care about Trump's indiscrepancies? Not really, and I don't believe that should be what voters care about most. But I do think the reaction from his party is a sign of things to come for both parties, and I care more about his party vehemently defending behaviors that they spent the past decades attacking in Democrats. Both party supporters should take a look and see in the midterms and in 2019 if their candidates are willing to sacrifice their party's character for victory, and decide for themselves if that's a direction they are willing to go.
Tell that to Gary Hart or John Edwards, LoL!
And really, if anyone would have remotely suspected Hillary of being a raging adulterer - she would not even have been one of the nominees; and she certainly would not have been if she had five kids with three different fathers. Until this election, who a candidate slept around with mattered a LOT!
It has to do with character & integrity - something T-fans don't care at all about, unless it has to do with any other candidate.
Nutty Nunes wants to impeace AG and Director of FBI so......FBI shows evidence. Thank God Trey Gowdy was there. Nutty is in on it or just nutty.
DOJ gives House Intel original document that prompted Russia investigation
BY KATIE BO WILLIAMS AND OLIVIA BEAVERS - 04/11/18 06:36 PM EDT
The Justice Department has provided House lawmakers with access to a two-page document that the FBI used to initiate its original counterintelligence probe into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia.
All members of the House Intelligence Committee received access to the document, a Justice Department official confirmed to The Hill on Wednesday.
Committee Chair Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) had requested access to the unredacted document, complaining that previous "heavily" redacted versions were not adequate for the committee's own investigation.
Nunes said Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein allowed him and House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) to view the key document related to the FBI’s Russia probe one day after he threatened to hold FBI Director Christopher Wray and Rosenstein in contempt and initiate impeachment proceedings against them if they did not comply with the request for the unredacted document.
“During the meeting, we were finally given access to a version of the [Electronic Communication] that contained the information necessary to advance the Committee’s ongoing investigation of the Department of Justice and FBI,” Nunes said in a statement.
“Although the subpoenas issued by this Committee in August 2017 remain in effect, I’d like to thank Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein for his cooperation today,” he added.
According to a Justice Department official, the remaining redactions in the document are "narrowly tailored to protect the name of a foreign country and the name of a foreign agent." Specifics have been replaced with identifiers like "foreign official" and "foreign government," the official said.
"These words must remain redacted after determining that revealing the words could harm the national security of the American people by undermining the trust we have with this foreign nation," the official continued, adding that they appear "only a limited number of times, and do not obstruct the underlying meaning of the document."
A handful of conservatives are investigating what they say is evidence that the department's decisionmaking during the 2016 election was riddled with bias—allegations that Democrats see as a transparent effort to muddy the waters around Mueller, or provide a pretext to shut him down.
"We're not going to just hold in contempt. We will have a plan to hold in contempt and impeach," Nunes said of "impeaching" the officials on Fox News on Tuesday.
A large degree of GOP focus is whether the federal probe was launched as a result of a tip that Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos had claimed to an Australian diplomat that he had dirt on Hillary Clinton.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-secu … ted-russia
How do you guys like that generic NDA that has assumed names. David Dennison was both Donald Trump and Elliot Brody. Others to be determined!
It's getting real!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lu_Hgw60Ns
The 53 most stunning lines from Donald Trump's 'Fox & Friends' interview
https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/26/politics … index.html
He's toast if he testifies.
Anyone who thinks Spanky is sane after this morning's rant on Fox and Friends needs to visit a shrink themselves. Give it up Trumpsters!
Seriously, Children are taught to want to become president. Are you suggesting our kids should be taught to pay porn stars hush money? Our children should be taught to lie to the American public without any reservation?
It is exactly as James Comey told Rachel Maddow, "It comes down to what you will tell YOUR grandchildren when they ask why YOU allowed Trump to be president."
Yes. You should care that a sleaze bag turns the presidency into a brothel replete with a nude porn star who claims to be "first lady" (Lady? in what realm on what planet?)
I realize today's Mcparents are too too too busy to care about morals, ethics and principles they were taught by their parents and teachers. But, I will be so thrilled when the Mckiddies who learned by McMommy and McDaddy's BAD examples how to lie your way through anything and patrol the sleaziest sex domains on earth. What goes around comes around.
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It's not that I disagree about policy with Trump supporters. It's that I know they don't give a shit about policy. There's no way to have a policy argument with people whose eyes are always looking up to the television for a cue from Dear Leader about what to say next. /1
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As @JVLast once said, Trumpism is non-falsifiable. Whatever Trump does is right. There are no principled arguments to be had, because if Trump changes his mind or tweets something off the wall, Trumpers change their position immediately. /2
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This would basically be a cult except for one thing: most Trumpers do not believe their own bullshit. Yes, some of them really are stupid enough to think Trump is a good man and all that crap, but most of them are only interested in Trump as a vehicle of social disruption. /3
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Trump's smarter enablers see him as an equalizer, a way to put them on an equal footing with "elites" - oh, that word - who they think look down on them. Thing is, the elites *do* look down on them. For good reason. Most of Trump's sycophants are second raters, at best. /4
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For them, Trump is their shot. They know he's, um, emotionally disordered, to use @Peter_Wehner's term, but they don't care: this is their one chance to grab the car keys and throw a kegger before Mom and Dad get back home. That makes talking with them about policy impossible. /5
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So if it seems like I don't engage Trump's enablers on the merits of this or that Trump policy, it's because I can't take Trump's "policies" any more seriously than Trump or his minions do. It's either pure stupidity or pure careerism, and either way, it's a waste of time. /6
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Yes, there are people in government trying to hold everything together. I salute them and hope they can keep the ship afloat. But they can't make policy either. They can issue directives and hope for the best, mostly hoping Trump doesn't notice and overrule them via tweet. /7
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I think we'd all be less exhausted if the Trumpers would just admit that what they value from Trump is the social leveling effect he has, forcing intelligent people to respond endlessly to stupid comments and bad ideas, than continue pretending they care about "policy." /8
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For myself, I am resigned that Trump will be president for as long as he's president. How it ends is up to the voters. But I don't see the need to engage in the cynical bullshittery of arguing policy with people who will change their minds on anything in nanoseconds. /9
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And for the love of God, don't tell me about what Trump's Real 'Muricans in the Heartland want. I know what they want: more government action, including money, delivered with a smile, inflated respect, and pity, earned or not. Those are utterly pointless discussions too. /10
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Trump is going to do what Trump is going to do. He's not liberal or conservative. It's all just the blurted thoughts of an angry, frightened man who won an office he didn't really want. We have to get through it, but we don't have to pretend we're arguing about real things. /11x is an intereting thread.
Breaking News! Michael Cohen is "rolling over" on 45. He make take a bullet for 45 but he will not do his time.
Goofy Giuliani and Teflon Don have humiliated him. He is not taking it any more.
The heat is on1
Kumbaya my Lord. Kumbaya! Kumbaya my Lord. Kumbaya!!!!!!!!
I want to stop hearing about Trump having sex with anyone, period. It makes me feel yucky. I honestly can’t believe anyone admits to having sex with him in the first place... I would take that secret to my grave and you would not have to pay me to keep it.
Can you hear ME?
N O ! ! !
For the sake of the nation!
TRUMP is NOT part of the globalists and he is our only hope.
If Donnie is our only hope, then we're up that well known creek without the proverbial paddle, Kate.
We all saw what was missing....Trump's REAL name, COHEN's REAL name and Daniels real name. We also didn't see Trump sign that legal document. That automatically invalidates it.
Try not signing your IRS tax returns and see what happens.
I don't care who he sleeps with. I just want him out of office.
Its pathetic. really pathetic. That we have to hear about it. That our kids have to hear about it. Stephanie is a real jerk. Trump is too. Poor Melania and Baron.
Melania should divorce him as Hillary should have divorced Bill. Hopefully Melania won't catch an STD. Some germs lie dormant. Unfortunately she L O V E S him. I can tell by her face when she looks at him. How much she wants his approval or is hurt by his callousness. No American woman would have stayed with him after an affair that occurred right after getting married. Gross. Melania needs to get a grip on herself and wise the heck up. Its not worth it to stay with him. Has she an ounce of self-esteem?
But then, its none of my business.
At this point, it all matters. Sure, it's exhausting to hear just one more thing about the Chump, but it's one more brick in the wall out of many. The more we know, the more we come to realize (or many of our cases, the affirmation) how corrupt this person really is. Keep in mind, many evangelicals voted for this guy under the guise he was a moral person...of course, I realize that there's a lot of hard heads out there that will used mental gymnastics to explain this all away.
Clinton had sex in the Oval Office, John Kennedy had affairs, Andrew Jackson had sex with slaves. Give it up. Whether you like him or not - wish him luck on the meeting with N. Korea. Be for the country, and stop the hate.
When you call Trump names, or mock him, you are doing the same thing that you criticize him for. We have three branches of government with checks and balances, he's not King.
This is not about Clinton or Kennedy, while they had their discretion, they are not the topic.in this thread. Trump is the topic...no need for "whataboutism". And, sure, there's three branch of government, but that's eroding when this president gets way or packs the court with his "guys". Also, I've noticed that the checks and balances are slowly fading away; especially when people in his party (i.e. Devin Nunes) continuously block or throw shades in favor of number #45.
And for the supposed meeting with North Korea? Again, that's another topic to be discussed on another thread. The most I'll say about that is that it's timing is suspicious and a lot more to North Korea's intent on this one (and it may not be good for The Don).
It's just an impression without any facts to support it, but I would guess that the majority (meaning over half) of married people have had extra-marital sex, very often becoming an affair, sometime in their lives.
Can we all stand and chant "Hypocrisy" in unison?
You are right. I wouldn't personally disqualify a candidate from receiving my vote for having an extramarital affair. Serial affairs, over the course of several years, including paying porn starts to have sex, then paying them to keep quiet at the height of a presidential campaign? That is more than my corruption meter can tolerate. Of course, I already knew Trump was a sick, corrupt, despicable person. That's why I would never, ever want him to take care of my dog, much less my country.
But, hey, everybody has their own standards, I guess.
Cheating on a spouse is OK, but hiring a prostitute isn't. Can't say I would agree with that.
Hiring a prostitute then paying her to stay quiet at the height of a presidential campaign. You forgot that second part.
I have zero problem with that - it sounds like a reasonable contract, one in which both sides benefit. Given the propensity of media and public to ignore what matters, focusing on personal moral concepts instead, it makes perfect sense to me.
There really is no comparison and a distinct difference between Bill Clinton, JFK and Mr. Trump is that JFK and Clinton were rather physically attractive men who were obviously not required to pay large sums of money to women so they would touch them. Women were just drawn to them unlike Trump
Mr. Trump on the other hand, a rather unpleasant, elderly strange looking orange haired and faced person with God knows how many sleazy ailments, was apparently required to pay stormy over one hundred thousand dollars. Even Melania is benefiting via marriage from big money as well to keep Mr. Trump company and word has it, they sleep in separate bedrooms, no big surprise there. Would you get near this guy with a 1000 yard pole?
The other distinction is the campaign finance crime which possibly occurred between Mr. Trump and his attorney when they paid stormy tens of thousands shortly before the 2016 election which leads us to the following question, how many crimes will Trump be found guilty of before the special prosecutor's investigation concludes in a year or so?
"...how many crimes will Trump be found guilty of before the special prosecutor's investigation concludes in a year or so?"
To the best of our knowledge, zero. Or do you have a leak from "inside" to share with the world?
Nope, no leak necessary to know Donald is gone, you just need the basic ability to read, listen and accept facts. These are the only pre-requisites to understand the noose is extremely tigh around the chubby double neck of the greatest corrupt, charlatan liar con-man in political history. I don't think he gets away with it this time.
13 of Mr. Trump's Russian Spy buddies indicted and several of Mr. Trump's inner circle already indicted or co-opted. They just flipped Nader. It won't be long, a year at most.
Are you finding it to be poetic justice that all these unpatriotic treasonous Russian assets like Manifort, Flynn etc who ran Mr. trump's campaign for Putin, and who were gleefully chanting 'lock her up' at Trump's hate rallies are they themselves getting locked up? Tingly feeling of justice prevailing for me.
Wait until Mueller gets to the prince of
"Nope, no leak necessary to know Donald is gone, you just need the basic ability to read, listen and accept facts."
Or, when there are no facts, to make your own. Works every time, doesn't it? And when proven wrong you can either claim it is a lie or pretend the proof never happened! Easy-peasy!
Well, here's two real, tangible facts which I don't expect a person of your loyalty to Mr. Trump to acknowledge, I know Fox News doesn't even report it because they are way too concerned with and pre-occupied with President Hillary and her husband Bill.
According to the constitution, it's a federal crime for a sitting president to accept emoluments from foreign governments which exactly what Trump and his family accept just about every day.
He also confessed to obstruction of justice when he said and I paraphrase, Russia was on his mind when he fired James Comey.
Those are just two of many damning public domain exhibits of evidence against him that are hanging the most corrupt politician named Donald and his entire arrogant grifter family.
You should watch special prosecutor Mueller, he's indicting Trump's inner circle and eventually Trump himself, the facts certainly matter to him. The unrelenting chaos and ineptitude is rapidly destroying the United States, Mueller needs to expedite the indictments.
'"Nope, no leak necessary to know Donald is gone, you just need the basic ability to read, listen and accept facts."
Or, when there are no facts, to make your own. Works every time, doesn't it? And when proven wrong you can either claim it is a lie or pretend the proof never happened! Easy-peasy!'
Says the gentleman who made up a fictional mental illness to discredit someone who disagrees with him. Or you could just admit the facts and that is that you most likely treated Obama just as bad as Anti-Trumpers are treating Trump and that you might have this obsession with trying to win an absolutely meaningless argument on the internet.
No one is going to change your mind, don't expect that you're actually going to change anyone else's either.
"Or you could just admit the facts and that is that you most likely treated Obama just as bad as Anti-Trumpers are treating Trump"
Sorry, but I never did deteriorate into making fun of his hair style or calling names. I didn't proclaim him to be mentally disturbed and from the very first I didn't declare him to be ineligible because he wasn't a citizen. I'll leave such nonsense to others.
No, I won't change any minds but it is possible that, in the future, people just might think twice before repeating stories they can't support. Not now - the hate is too strong for rational thought, but maybe in the future.
Well Bubblegum, it's true that the orange balding guy roaming around in our oval office with an unknown purpose is spending most of his time at this point destroying America, wittingly or otherwise, and he actually confessed to Lester Holt that he fired James Comey with Russia on his mind,
This is exactly how sick individuals act, impervious to legal consequences because they believe they can get away with anything and so far he and his family has. I'd suggest you watch the televised interview.
In public, Mr. Trump constantly resembles a mentally ill elderly man, did you see his last hate rally a few nights ago? But don't take my word for it, listen to the well respected experts if you dare. Ain't gonna find this truth on fox channel.
According to in depth multiple psychiatrists diagnosis, Mr. Trump is a much bigger psychopath than Adolph Hitler was, and he sure acts like it. Huge increases in mass shootings, terrorist plots, violence, racist incidents, chaos and misogyny under his reign and he actually condoned an alleged pedophile for U.S. Senate. How sick is that? There are also disturbing reports that Stormy Daniels might have been threatened with physical harm.
When comments are made around here that question the mental stability of Mr. Trump, just remember it's rooted in fact. Here's just two of many vitally important published articles on the subject:
https://www.carbonated.tv/news/donald-t … researcher
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world … 94316.html
"According to in depth multiple psychiatrists diagnosis,..."
Link, please, to a few of those "multiple psychiatrists diagnosis"? Or was it just another lie, like so many others? Do keep in mind that because some yahoo ignores their ethical standards and publicly states Trump has a mental illness without ever even interviewing him, let alone carrying out an "in depth analysis", means only that the speaker is a liar and unfit to have the title of medical professional. Not that the mental illness actually exists.
I just posted 2 links related to many professionals who recognize the obvious that Mr. Trump is probably not well at all and therefore a mega-danger to society with one hand on the nuke button and the other groping Stormy's assets.
As a matter of fact, they say he's more psychopathic than Adolf Hitler was and he sure acts a lot like der fuhrer. Maybe you missed the links. You might want to back track and read if you're interested in the truth. Pretty disturbing.
Here's another: 37 psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers, ALL experts who have concluded Mr. Trump desperately needs help and is a major detriment to the world.
http://www.businessinsider.com/mental-h … ity-2017-2
This isn't the face of an angry elderly man who's not deeply troubled?
"According to in depth multiple psychiatrists diagnosis,"
But I didn't ask for the opinion of some unethical quack that never performed an examination at all; I ask for a link for what you stated you had. An expert opinion resulting from "in depth multiple psychiatric diagnosis".
Do you have that, or was it just a gross exaggeration without any truth in it?
I'm not going to argue with you wilderness, I already provided 3 articles in previous posts which corroborate the obvious that Mr. Trump appears to be very sick psychologically and perhaps even physically as well if you look at his facial pigment. He doesn't seem to care about his orangey public appearance or maybe he just can't help it.
But here's yet another article which includes findings of experts from Yale and Harvard. You know, more quacks lol. Not good for Donald.
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ … -amendment
NOTE; The Stormy Storm was just upgraded from a cat 2 to cat 3 when her attorney dropped a bombshell eluding to possible physical threats to her by Donny and Company. Although Mr. Trump's violent proclivities are well documented and another sign of serious mental illness, I'd like to actually see the evidence of these Stormy threats. Can't wait to see any films and pics as well, if of course they exist.
Yup, this sure is a picture of a normal, mentally sound elderly man:
LOL From your link: "And no doctor, as far as we know, has evaluated the president’s mind for fitness to serve as president."
First, the statement is false, for his doctor performed a mental evaluation and, with permission, made the results public. But more important it clearly gives the lie to your own statement that there have been multiple in depth psychiatric exams.
Are you going to give the link to those multiple exams or not? Are you going to back up your statement, or leave it as false? Your statement about those "experts" is really interesting, for no physician (of any kind) would ever make the results of an exam public. Nor would they make a determination of health without an examination. Yet you claim there are dozens of professionals that are doing exactly that: making public the results of an exam they didn't perform. These are NOT health professionals; they are quacks without a shred of professional ethics.
lol, I guess only a last remaining Trump supporter would call mental health experts from Yale and Harvard 'quacks".
And by the way, the air headed admiral doctor gave Trump the 'Montreal Cognitive Assessment' which is mildly effective at discovering signs of dementia. No further examination was performed which means he was derelict of duty.
In reality, if you believe your own eyes when watching him live in public, you'll understand that he suffers from delusion, hallucination, narcissism, paranoia, extreme anger and exhibits more symptoms of psychopathy than Adolf Hitler. All the public evidence says he's an abnormally ill elderly man and this bombshell Stormy situation is just one example of proof.
the Bibl has words for those who lead others astray. Those in positions of leadership will be jusged more sternly.
Andrew Jackson is among the many thousands who raped slaves.
I don't want to hear it either. But the issue is that others shouldn't have any kind of reason to come back and blackmail a President. Loose lips sink ships. And when people are that close, they don't usually watch what they say. This is why he sucks up to Putin, even though the sex comments on Access Hollywood (or whatever that was) didn't hurt him. Putin may know other things. I would give anything to know what he has on Trump! I think we all don't really want to know about his sex life, yuck.
Yeah, what goes on behind Trump's closed bedroom doors has to be on the top 5 GROSS List and yes, Vladimir Putin seems to be in control of our presidency and federal government which is nothing less than insane.
But don't look now, Stormy's attorney eluded to 'ship sinking' DISC evidence on Anderson Cooper yesterday.
What's on this CD ? Is this why Donny is muzzled about Stormy?
It is amazing that such an arrogant, flawed, corrupt person could have fooled so many people. A Russian official has been tied to Guciffer. Roger Stone also. If the disk has info on him. God only knows what else is out there.
Wake up folks!!!
It took a while diane, but it seems like many who were fooled into voting for charlatan Trump are finally seeing the light. Trump lost about 20% a couple weeks ago when the Dem candidate crushed the conservative crazy in the special election, and it only gets worse for comrade Donny and the GOP from here after witnessing the young adult march against Trump yesterday.
Mr Trump is doomed legally for obstruction of justice, abuse of power, treason, conspiracy against America and so many other crimes, it seems as if not a single competent reputable lawyer will get within 1000 miles of his criminal case because he's so radioactive and that's no surprise, but who knows, this STORMY compact disc reveal could conceivably doom him politically as well if it even matters since he and his accomplices should be in prison very very soon.
Charlatan creep Jerry Falwell Junior has forsaken God and his gullible sheep only to back deranged Trump who has invoked unsustainable white house chaos and hate, committed adultery, paid porn actresses and undermines healthcare, all in the aggregate are unforgivable sins. I wonder if he'll be watching 60 minutes tonight, or does he even care about his destroyed reputation at this point?
Clinton nor JFK ever had sex with porn stars. And, much to the chagrin of some, we know now the entire Clinton smear campaign was paid for by Republican donor and operative, Peter W. Smith. He was the guy who claimed in 2016 he had Russian contacts who would provide Hillary Clinton's emails.
Then, Robert Mueller was named Special Counsel and for some all too mysterious reason, Peter W. Smith who for years was the money man who paid millions to smear both Clintons, committed suicide.
Not how righties all hurried to blame Hillary for the death of Vince Foster's suicide? But now, they are so nice and silent about why the Republican Smear Campaign boy Peter W. Smith committed suicide.
Like we can't figure out that in order to get Hillary's so called emails from the Russians, Smith realized his contact with the Russians during an election year would indict him and the Republican Party who took millions from Smith in donations.
Oh what tangled webs the GOP weaves when first it practices to deceive.
I used to work as a PR consultant with some high-profile clients. By high-profile, I mean the ones where journalists are paid to write lies in order to discredit my clients. I also worked with celebrities. They, too, are lied about constantly. It was an interesting gig, and I learned how vile, dishonest the media can be.
With that, I agree with Mike. Check the facts, don't get caught up in the media sensationalism. Be smart and don't get caught up in the noise. It's a waste of energy and valuable time. Turn off the news. Do something creative, write your novel. Spend quality time with your family.
Pornstar? What creditability is that?
Nicely put. These conversations could go on adnauseum. People will believe anything negative if it's about someone they dislike and dismiss anything negative about those they do.
Well Kenna, if you watch any news channel that's trying to convince you that Mr. Trump never paid an adult actress to 'spend time' with him and she was never paid off by his sloppy inept and perhaps corrupt attorney, they are sadly mistaken and you should really turn that station off, especially if it's fox lies network.
The real evidence against STD Donny gets worse with each passing day, not only did his attorney confess to paying Stormy Daniels 130K just prior to the 2016 election, funds apparently obtained from a line of credit on his property, but investigations have now traced paperwork related to the case back to a Trump Co executive. not good for the Trump family. Just one more massive scandal to pile on top of everything else bringing his insane chaotic and treasonous fake administration down, and thank God for that.
It matters because Trump's lawyer could very well be arrested for it, not only because he handled the money, but because people are starting to dig into just where that money came from. Could result in someone else quitting Trump's staff.
I'm not sure how handling the transaction and contract between two parties is illegal and could result in an arrest. Can you expound on that as there doesn't seem to be anything illegal about that contract?
To my knowledge, according to reports, the bank that processed what I believe was a wire transfer from Trump's sloppy, dopey shady attorney's account into adult actress stormy's account was flagged as suspicious by who we'd assume were compliance officers, principals, or other authorized bank staff. Big problem.
Why the red alert?
130K Transferred into an adult actresses bank account right before the election from the attorney of a presidential candidate absolutely warrants a RED Alert. And if Mr. Trump had knowledge of the covert payment, he's probably in deep with yet another crime.
Seriously, isn't everyone including his trumpers getting a little sick and bored with the critical mass of crimes and corruption surrounding this sleazy con-man charlatan?
Apparently Trump's E-mail mechanism was used by Cohen and Cohen apparently said he used an equity line of credit to pay Stormy Daniels the hush money, or prostitution fee, or whatever it turns out to be.
Meanwhile, in a desperate attempt to bury the stormy story, Mr. Trump like the impulsive paranoid old man he is, just made it much more expensive for all Americans including his voters, to purchase an automobile due to his insane tariff hike mania. Nice
Why? Was she a Russian? Do you detect Russian interference right before the election?
"Meanwhile, in a desperate attempt to bury the stormy story, Mr. Trump like the impulsive paranoid old man he is, just made it much more expensive for all Americans including his voters, to purchase an automobile due to his insane tariff hike mania. "
To bury the story, he imposed tariffs on steel. Riiiight! I admire the lengths those with TDS will go to to twist things into absolutely unrecognizable shapes, but this one has to be right at the top of the list.
You are correct. To bury the stormy story which could have severe legal consequences for Mr. Cohen and Donald, Mr. Trump the raving megalomaniac in what we'd assume was a typical paranoid impulsive rage, an orange faced Russian sympathizer who could care less about you, me or the national security of United States of America, imposed tariffs on steel. That's just fantastic.
I hope everyone including his little cultees realize what Mr. Trump could care less about. This insane tariff will not only inflate the cost of autos, refrigerators and just about every other consumer good made from metal, but if a trade war escalates, it could have an inflationary affect on many other essentials. Just another way Mr. Trump appeased Putin by undermining America.
But don't worry your little head off, Mr. Trump says it''s good for you.
There could be laws the attorney is breaking, at least according to CNN. There was no contract either. It was all just hush money so that the porn star would stay quiet. Unfortunately the affair got out.
Well no one cares about the affair. What the FBI and everyone else cares about is the fact that Trump and his administration tried covering it up. By doing so they potentially violated laws that could result in more arrests. I mean look what happened this week; two of Trump's aids left over allegations of sexual harassment. Mueller had done a lot of vetting, which resulted in more and more people from the White House being investigated and subsequently fired. It's important because a lot of people are tired of these investigations. Voters are starting to notice and it could give Democrats an edge over the 2018 midterm elections. So it's not just the perceptions, but also the fact that Trump could very well be surrounding himself with officials who are being targeted for investigation in a lot of serious crimes. That alone also calls into question his judgement to run a country, let alone his own staff.
Assuming they tried to cover it up, what laws might have been "potentially" violated because of the cover up?
For starters, at the very least, campaign finance laws may have been violated by Cohen and Trump and it may be a criminal offense. The justice system could quite conceivably add another crime to Mr. Trump's growing list if he was aware of what his personal attorney was trying to cover up right before the 2016 election in which Putin won.
I was going to say that I feel for Melanie, in a side by side comparison, voluptuous stormy does kinda make Melanie look like an under developed Russian man wearing a wig, maybe that's why Donald begged her to marry him. But then again, Melanie should be fine, after suffering through ten years of looking at that sorry elderly orange kisser of Donald's almost every day, if he's not already leveraged above his hair piece, she might get a few mil settlement from him when all is said and done. To suggest she actually loves him is a bit comical wouldn't you say? Where's the proof of that?
Sounds like another "Trump and Putin colluded to fix the election" to me. I mean, he could be a mass murderer, too, but that isn't a reason to suspect he is.
Your insistence that the President is a criminal and must be caught at it is plainly rooted in TDS - you need to work on that and set insinuations that your imagined evils of Trump are all true aside rather than exhibit the syndrome in public.
Well, via his own tweets, hate rallies and filmed interviews as top notch damning evidence against himself, excluding what special prosecutor Mueller has compiled, Mr. Trump needs no help from me to get him what he deserves, a hanging. He's a one man self destructing elderly Russian sympathizer megalomaniac who thinks he can outsmart the world, but God willing, he'll get what he deserves very soon for the sake of this crumbling country. But who knows, maybe he'll get away with it again, God forbid.
I thought this was a discussion about Stormy, Donald and Melanie, and the sloppy cover up and potential campaign finance crime, where else would be a more appropriate forum to talk about STD's and the terrifying consequences thereof? Oh, did you say TDS?
Come on now seriously, if you were a woman, would you risk getting near this creepy looking rotting orange creature for any amount less than 100 grand?
Hate rallies
Damning evidence
A hanging
self destructing
elderly Russian sympathizer
megalomaniac
outsmart the world
get what he deserves
Crumbling country
creepy looking
rotting
orange
creature
Yep. TDS for sure. When there is nothing to offer, substitute name calling and gross exaggeration - it relieves the pressure of that TDS, at least for a few minutes.
I'm still not sure what TDS is nor do I really care at this point because it bores me, but I sure know an adult actress cover up, boneheaded attorney, president headed for a hanging and hate rally when I see one.
Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0
Trump Disorder Syndrome. It refers to a condition where one is so filled with hate that all reason is lost and their life becomes just spewing hate filled dialogues without meaning or truth. Rants without substance, just derogatory terminology used to express an emotional state rather than a reasoned argument.
You could systematically refute the untruths, if they exist, or you could be lazy and claim TDS.
Why? Do you really think that "orange" can be refuted? "Creepy looking" or "creature"? These things are not facts, they aren't even (honest) opinions: they are just an emotional rant, a venting, without any real meaning at all. A temper tantrum; the forum equivalent of lying on the floor and kicking heels.
When a single short post contains a dozen or more such terms it becomes just another troll post, but calling the troll on it might make someone else sit back, think about it, and realize that "You know, I do that sometimes, too". Unless, of course, their own TDS is seeking validation and feeding.
Once again, a Trump supporter decrying name calling is like a burglar decrying pick pocketing.
Jake's points are valid despite his method of delivery. Isn't that what y'all say about Trump? Address the issues, not the persona?
Oh, I forgot. You hold lowly forum dwellers to a higher standard of conduct than POTUS. My bad.
"Jake's points are valid despite his method of delivery. Isn't that what y'all say about Trump? Address the issues, not the persona?
But Jake's "point" is apparently "I hate Trump but have no real reasons, so will use childish, derogatory name calling and gross exaggerations to let everyone know I hate him". People without the syndrome might just say "I don't like Trump", but those that do will go to great lengths, repeating the actions they so decry, to express their emotional state. Highly connotative words and some slight exaggeration can be useful, but when the entire conversation consists of nothing else it deteriorates rather quickly.
And yes, I hold forum dwellers (and most everyone else above the age of 5) to a higher standard than the White House exhibits. Don't you? Did you find the tirade by that idiot in California (Brown, I think) about being sued for obstructing federal law enforcement useful in any manner? Nothing but a tantrum for doing exactly what the state has consistently done to the feds, designed to be an emotional tear jerker while leaving out any useful information that a listener could use to make any determination for themselves about the validity of the action.
Lol, you conveniently ignore the substantive comments.
And, if you voted for Trump and/or continue to defend him, then we all know how low your standards are for the occupant of the highest office in the land. It's on display every day for the entire world to see and take note.
Just google "Trump says" and you'll find multiple instances of name calling and bashing within just the last day or two.
Our president. I'm not proud. Are you?
"Our president. I'm not proud. Are you?"
A tough question.
The only president in decades to actually acknowledge and do something about illegal aliens.
The only president in decades that hasn't simply folded into a doormat over other countries demands
The only president in decades that has taken substantive steps to limit terrorism, outside of TSA and war.
The only president in decades that has put the needs of the US above those of other countries.
The only president in decades that recognizes the plight of DACA kids and has proposed a legal solution to it. The one Obama took was NOT legal; the president does not have the authority to grant citizenship or any other legal status to such a group. Simply deciding to ignore the law was not a legal solution.
The only president in decades to convince N Korea to talk (if they do)
He also
Goes beyond any reasonable boundaries in insulting "opponents".
Takes grossly insufficient care to verify truth of his statements and claims
Takes insufficient care in vetting his advisers/aides.
Often seems to speak from irritation/anger rather than from reasoned conclusions, then re-thinks and changes position.
Some positives, and big ones. Some negatives, and fairly big ones. Overall I put him above anyone else we've had in quite a few years, but am not happy at all about some of his "indiscretions". Do efforts to provide for the country, improve it and it's people, count more than a foul mouth? Do efforts to rescind/reduce/end misguided efforts towards liberal socialism mean more than his insults? We will all make our own decisions.
Wilderness,
I frequently admire your replies even if I don't agree if them. I think your response is a reasonable one from somebody who supports Trump and is consistent with his message and perspective of his accomplishments. However, I have to take issue with your assessment of his achievements. Specifically:
"The only president in decades to actually acknowledge and do something about illegal aliens." - check the record. Obama had a very high rate of deportations, increasing them substantially over previous administrations.
"The only president in decades that hasn't simply folded into a doormat over other countries demands" - this one bugs me. Just because Trump delivers a lot of tough talk publicly doesn't mean anything. Also, just because somebody speaks diplomatically in public doesn't mean that they let others walk all over them. I hate this bully mentality - that big talking people like Trump accomplish anything just because of their tactics.
"The only president in decades that has put the needs of the US above those of other countries." - again, complete hogwash. Just because he says something doesn't make it true. Diplomacy isn't weakness. And just take a look at the tariffs he's instituting. Can you say "tax increase"? Because all of us are going to pay dearly for it.
"The only president in decades to convince N Korea to talk (if they do)" - North Korea has offered to sit down with every past U.S. President. It's just that past presidents haven't agreed because they don't want to legitimize North Korea's brand of "diplomacy". And also because North Korea lies. Oh, and weren't the Republicans all up in arms about the agreement with Iran? And now we're going to negotiate with North Korea? Seems odd. (That said, if he can accomplish something with them, I will give him major props and it will be rightfully deserved and his tactics - calling their bluff - would deserve credit as well)
Well, most of that is perception. For instance, Obama increased somewhat (not a great deal) the number of deportations...while instructing enforcement officers to ignore the law in regards to DACA. And when the recession began to fade and jobs became more available he couldn't even keep up and the number of illegals began to once more climb.
Trump made a decision that has been needed for a long time - "allowing" a foreign nation to choose the city of their choice for their capital. How in the world we felt that we had the right to choose for them is beyond me. He canceled travel from terrorist countries in spite of both foreign and national cries that it was "racist" somehow. He has instituted tariffs on countries that subsidize their manufacturing so that their product is cheaper than ours and will likely do so again. He is smart enough to understand that we aren't saving anything by buying cheap...and then supporting laborers that lost their job as a result of those cheap prices.
Being a doormat - pure perception, but one I have. I really don't think Obama and others truly put the US at the top of the pile - instead they simply folded to demands from other countries. I don't think there has been a single treaty negotiated where the US had an advantage, or was even left with a level playing field. It's always about using the people of our country to "help", to subsidize and pay for, what other nationalities need.
Well, we don't know if NK will actually come to a table or not - that remains to be seen. But if they do it will be a first. We'll see if Trump has actually managed to accomplish anything or if their "offer" is just nonsense as it was in the past.
People keep comparing this situation, Korea, with Iran. No. We have a really crazy nut. To talk with him and see what is up with him is absolutely brilliant.
If we can't give money, what could we give to get them (Korea, its government and people,) to get their ruthless out-of-his-mind dictator to pipe down. Korea is desperate. They need some kind of help. Trump doesn't want to just hand over the money as his predecessors have done. Why keep placating the dictators?
They will only demand more and more and more, like little spoiled-rotten children, which is probably exactly what these dictators are.
Seems to me that if you look at our two biggest threats: China and Russia, Trump has been ridiculously passive and accommodating.
Another thing, if anybody wanted to solve the immigration problem, they would aggressively go after businesses that hired illegals or undocumented workers. Problem is, those industries buy off politicians. Republicans NEVER do anything to suppress business use of illegals and are therefore attacking the problem from the wrong direction. Eliminate the motivation for coming to the U.S. (jobs) and you eliminated the immigration issue.
Thank you for addressing the points above. I've been occupied elsewhere and haven't been on the forums. I read wilderness' list of things that Trump has supposedly done that other presidents didn't and am glad you took the time to address them. Wilderness says it's "perception." The facts say his "perception" is heavily biased toward Trump. I mean, to say Trump is the only president in decades to address terrorism outside of TSA and war is just ridiculous. Same with the notion that he's the only one to put the needs of the U.S. first. Pure nonsense.
I will give Trump some cautious approval with North Korea. Obviously, past efforts haven't worked. Perhaps Trump's haphazard, reckless unpredictability is working in his favor on this one issue. Time will tell, but I'm at least keeping a "wait and see" attitude on this one.
The rest of wilderness' post is just biased nonsense.
Just a thought on your immigrating comment. I disagree that going solely after businesses is the solution. Probably because there are fines for hiring the undocumented and it's gotten tedious with some, where citizens already have to prove citizenship prior to employment. To imply otherwise is simply not facing facts.
No, going after businesses isn't the only thing that needs doing.
But until we remove the massive incentive to ignore the law we will continue to have the problem. Illegal employment MUST be a part of true, effective, reform. I have to wonder, though, if Trump hasn't made a move there because it is not politically possible at this time - there are far too many people - politicians, businesses and others - that depend on the virtual slave labor from illegal aliens for their livelihood. Plus, of course, the massive numbers of people that would open the borders completely on the theory that Americans owe the rest of the world a living.
Hey Jake, TDS is part of the derangement syndrome umbrella. The other variation were Bush Derangement syndrome, Obama Derangement Syndrome and others. It's not a medical condition...it's just rhetoric. Or. more precisely, it's utter nonsense. It's used as deflection and as a way to defame any critic of the person in questions (with TDS it's Trump).
I wrote a Hub about it: https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/Whats … -Ignore-It
Ah, thanks Dean, I figured TDS was some kind of nonsensical fact deflection mechanism that republicans use to duck, dodge and avoid reality. But in this forum given the topic and given grandpa orange hairpiece's apparent history of buying the company of women, including women who may have rolled around in the hay with a gaggle of partners without protection, I think STD is a more appropriate three letter word.
Ya think Melanie even goes near her little obedient Russian Poodle now without some kind of NASA astronaut suit and raid spray to repel all those germs orbiting his orange being?
Nice article by the way.
That's all they have. You see we don't stoop to their level. The facts are on our side, and that has them in a frenzy.
Fox facts are on your side, Shar. Take that as you like it from the fraud Hannity.
I wonder if Donald Trump cares. I bet he regrets it big time. Alexander Hamilton allowed himself to be killed in a duel over a discovered affair.
… well, thats what I think.
… whatever the case, we're stuck with him, as is Melania. Unless he does something to get impeached.
What could be do?
Although Mr. Trump's erratic deranged treasonous behavior is wearing thin, especially on republicans who are also guilty of violatiing their oaths for NOT impeaching this megalomaniac, odds are not great that a republican led congress will take care of this dire situation, but Mr. Trump's unthinkable crimes of obstruction of justice, abuse of power, treason, serial lying, conspiracy, emoluments violations, undermining and sabotaging of the United States via his destruction of our healthcare system and the environment, and overt coddling of Russia etc etc will be handled by special prosecutor Mueller with his indictments.
13 of Mr. Trump's Russian pals have already been indicted, Trump's entire inner circle including his Russian pals Manifort and Flynn are either indicted and headed straight to prison for their crimes, co-operating with the prosecution to shore up evidence, have been forced out of the white house like nazi Bannon who is also probably headed to prison, or have been DENIED security clearances like Jared 'Mountain of Debt' Kushner and his wife who should also pay a penalty very soon if we are a land of laws.
DENIED security clearances? What does that tell you? It tells me they are both HIGH security risks to the United States due to past activity yet they still have access to our classified info. Unreal.
Cowardly charlatan Mr. Trump looks like he's sweating in a panic, he knows what's coming and I'm sure one of the reasons why he never authorized our intelligence agencies to protect us from Russia according to leadership, or never spent a dime of 130 million dollars allotted on countering Russia's war-time cyber attacks on the united States, is that once the Mueller hammer comes down, and it must come down considering the mountain of public evidence, I believe the Kremlin is where he and his family will beg for asylum.
The Stormy Daniels cover up while the evidence leads to a possible federal crime and it's a despicable abomination according to all valid biblical scripture, is just one piece of a gigantic puzzle that will ultimately serve justice on Donald.
He already admitted that he gave the Russians sensitive information, not to mention the fact that they did meddle with the 2016 Election; the FBI probe had stated that clearly. Congress had to even block him. I think the Republicans are still trying to hold out the fact that they could control him, despite nothing actually being done in the White House and Trump making Republicans look bad by promising all these things to the public when in actuality they haven't even been done yet. I think they're just about to forgive everything, no impeachment. Unless something really really big happens. For example, I don't know, he's been convicted of murdering someone during his Presidency, a really high government official.
I don't know. Did you care about President Clinton getting a blow job in an Oval Office closet? He got impeached (and exonerated) for lying about it.
No one hated president Trump when he was on "the apprentice." I hear a lot I people talking about how horrible and corrupt he is, people dredging up dirty laundry from 30 years ago. Were some of the people doing this watching him on the apprentice just 3 years ago? If he's been corrupt for over 30 years why was he loved by the media for so long, and was popular with the public? He wasn't hated until he upstaged Hillary Clinton. I think a lot I hearts have been exposed. Now critics are master historians. 3 years ago I suspect they were fans I suspect.
Never watched a single episode of Trump's show. He was greasy before then and many of us knew it. He's not changed one iota...
It’s a much different climate now than it was even a few years ago. Lots of previously well-liked celebrities have been called out and their images have suffered based on previous actions, it is not exclusive to Trump.
Leland, STD Donny Trump wasn't HATED by the masses until he began his undermining of our healthcare system, degraded United States Military POWs, degraded women, degraded and insulted gold star families of soldiers killed in action, incited violence, mocked our disabled human beings, bowed and licked the boots of Vladimir Putin, begged Vladimir Putin to steal the private property of U.S. citizens, said nazi white supremecists were good people, attacked the Pope and attacked Mexicans and now Stormy Stephanie. The list is endless.
ALL valid reasons to HATE carrot face Mr. Trump and his entire weirdo family. At this point, it would be highly unusual for a patriotic American NOT to HATE this ugly traitor. The stormy story is huge and will be just one element in the toppling of a megalomaniac camped out and causing mayhem in the oval office, but it looks like he might have much bigger problems, in case you haven't heard, Special Prosecutor Mueller, according to reports, just issued a subpoena for 'Trump Organization Records'. RED HOT..
I've known about Trump for more than 30 years and I've never liked him. I knew he was a charlatan then and haven't wavered on that opinion. New York gossip columnists made him a star (And now, it's turning out he was creating all kinds of spin under the guise of a faux publicist and contacting the columnist on those newspapers).
Unfortunately there were a bunch of get-rich schemers (you know the type: like to talk about getting rich, but spend all their time reading the stock exchange pages) that lived by his words and helped perpetuate that "greatness" that so many Trump supporters seem to believe in.
Back then, his racism was apparent, too. I remember watching him on a C-Span going off on Native Americans in the most disparaging away...because he blamed them for cutting into failed casino business. For me and for a lot of us that weren't fooled, it was never a right or left issue. It was the fact that he was extremely unfit for the office.
What an explosive devastating story. Now we're getting reports of more women in the same Stormy situation. Not surprising but still shocking none the less. Even reports of possible coercion, physical threats used against the victims. Oh my God.
If we believe public information, Mr. Cohen paid Stormy 130K for some unknown reason at this point. I could be wrong, but I believe Mr. Cohen has already confessed to paying this sum to Stormy's attorney just prior to the 2016 election. Reports indicate he secured the funds from a home equity line of credit.
As much as I roll this scenario around in my head over and over again, I still can't understand why a New York attorney who has worked for Mr. Orange for approximately 12 years, finds it necessary to mortgage his real estate to free up a mere $130, 000 which is essentially chicken feed to most high profile big wig New York lawyers. This strikes me as very odd and perhaps the story within the story. Yup, follow the money trail.
The real issues here are not the sex but 1) possible illegal campaign contributions, 2) possibility for Trump to be blackmailed, 3) multiplied by however many and 4) impact on poor Baron.
When Trump's time on Earth has expired, how many eons will he burn in hell for his sick, diabolically evil unforgivable sins?
You make some good points diane, but I'm sure the sex part of this cover up is a major issue for Melanie and many true Christians who after this story broke, must have rescinded any and all of their support for the weird orange man and although nobody really knows, I'd be very surprised if Melanie wasn't in deep covert consultation with divorce attorneys at this time to calculate just how much she can pull out of her weak, insecure extremely troubled hubby. Isn't that what most women would do at this point?
Yes, blackmail, Illegal campaign contributions etc are all serious issues which will be drilled down on and of course are contributing factors to the long over due demise of this surreal, fake Trump presidency, but if the accusations of coercion and threats of violence against Stormy are true which have been reported, then this unholy demonstrably immoral situation gets ratcheted up to an even higher level of legal severity. I would like to see the evidence and Stormy's attorney says it's coming.
It's no surprise to Americans who still believe in the truth to see that due to innumerable reasons including this ongoing Stormy bombshell, the dumpster Trump lost 20% in support a few days ago when the Dem candidate trounced the older bizarre Con candidate in a ruby red section of PA, but after the viciously evil Trump style incident which occurred last night, where a patriotic American who served in the FBI protecting our country for over 20 years was terminated just hours before his full pension kicked in, I felt in my bones even more real Christians who have had enough of this unholy charlatan charade, dump Trump.
Jake, as a believer, I am frustrated with "Christian" leaders who are making it up as they go along. The idiot that wrote the book about Trump's Christianity was on Morning Joe and sounded like the village idiot.
With all of the other things that are coming out, as evidenced by what little we know from Mueller investigation, I don't understand how people saw there is nothing there. His tweets about McCabe can be used against him. Now Cambridge Analytica is being exposed. We don't know the complete nature but there is definitely a "there there!"
The points I made should be concerns for all Americans. I try not to address my Christian perspective because the topic is not in the context of Christianity. The mulligans really blew my mind. It should give congregants a microscopic view of their leadership.
"he suffers from delusion, hallucination, narcissism, paranoia, extreme anger and exhibits more symptoms of psychopathy than Adolf Hitler."
Jake, your rants rather make you to appear to be an object lesson in the above-named disorders. Project much?
Yes, he went too far with that description.
Setting aside the question of Trump's !mental health, would you trust him to mentor your daughter or son?
Clearly from observing his public appearances the average person could ascertain that Mr. Trump desperately needs mental help before it's too late. He's abnormal in juts about every way, angry, vindictive, paranoid, delusional and egregiously unqualified for the presidency
That's my opinion and many experts in the field agree that he needs to be removed immediately. Here's just one:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ … -amendment
The average (honest, ethical) person recognizes that they are not health professionals and do not have the expertise to make medical diagnosis. And the (honest, ethical) health professional that does have that expertise also has a sense of ethics that forbids making public their diagnosis, or any diagnosis at all without a thorough exam. Observing a public, political, persona is of no help at all in making a diagnosis of mental illness and most of us, trained or not, know that, too.
Your opinion is of exactly zero value (or even less as it is based on hate rather than truth), and so is that of "experts" that forego their ethical standards to enter the political fray and demonstrate their own hate-filled illnesses.
Jake, ignore the insult that implies you are dishonest and unethical in your comment. Your opinion does not have "zero value".
It's a typical attack from someone who manages to avoid a ban on HP because he doesn't use the word "you" in his blizzard of insults.
You are quite right. Trump is mentally unstable, which is not a medical term and doesn't require a medical degree to make that observation. It just requires eyes, ears and a thinking brain.
Professionals who have made public comments about Trump are willing to ignore professional guidelines because they are terrified the man has access to nuclear weapons.
They're the ones with high ethical standards.
When walking down the street and you see someone smelly, disheveled, talking to self, cursing, you don't assume they are talking to the board of directors.
Regarding Trump, even though I, as well as others, have disagreed on Trump's policies, views and actions, the fact that Trump's mental health is even the subject of this is rather odd. I thought we were just talking about Trump's affair with the porn star and what it could mean for his Presidency.
Well, it's quite true that anyone can say that anyone is mentally unstable. People call other people crazy on a pretty regular basis, and they rarely support these effusions with evidence, medical or otherwise.
So, tell us about these observations of yours, which you believe to be an indication of Trump's mental instability. Give some examples.
You state that the medical professionals who have ignored professional standards and ethics to diagnose Trump (based on watching him on TV) as mentally unstable are motivated by terror. Perhaps you can tell us how you know what motivates them. (You can read minds?)
I would ask Jake to do this, but I see that he is fully occupied with auditioning for "The Shining."
People do care what Trump did before he was president. What you do in the past has ramifications in the present. Consider a rephrasing of the original idea/question: If Trump murdered someone before his presidency, would people care? Of course people would care. What you do in the past affects how people see your character in the present.
adultery, bankruptcies, not paying workers, grabbing ladies in the p*zzy are all consequential. Those who voted him didn't care and hated HRC so badly. Hatred can cause people to do horrible things. I didn't vote for HRC or DJT. People get angry saying, "Well if you didn't vote for HRC, you voted for DJT!" Others say, "Well if you didn't vote for DJT, you voted for HRC!" So it cancels out!
We should care about morals. The presidency did not change him. It revealed who he really is. It's like that snake on the road that he talks about.
Absolutely correct Amanda, the overwhelming majority of human beings are seriously concerned about the past behavior, corruption and crimes of Mr. Trump.
The unthinkable dire problem we have now is a deranged megalomaniac fake president who suffers from frequent delusions,debilitating bouts with paranoia and furious anger and is constantly detached from reality, And he might actually have access to the NUCLEAR CODE! Much more dangerous than Adolf Hitler!
He apparently now believes he can continue to commit crimes in broad daylight and continue to get away with it, just like obstructing justice AGAIN by firing Andrew McCabe just hours before his pension kicked in, Attacking special prosecutor Mueller, and of course intimidating porn actress Stormy Daniels who appears to have much more evidence to reveal to the world.
Who else but a seriously mentally disturbed creature would even think of firing an FBI agent who served and protected us, just hours before his full pension became effective. Only an evil minded black souled charlatan like Donny, that's who.
Tell it all brother, tell it all!
Apparently, Trump's voters didn't know just how sleazy he was before he became POTUS, and now they're vested in him so deep they'd rather he get away with treason than admit they were wrong. So much for their patriotic ideals...
Also, many who were fooled into voting for Mr. Trump thought he was just acting mentally deranged on the campaign trail and thought he'd become a real president if elected, they didn't realize he was actually in serious psychological peril and woefully unfit for any public office, suffering from so many mental illnesses and demons. It wasn't an act according to the experts.
The very same voters were also misguided and misled into thinking that all those women who accused Mr. Trump of various crimes were not truthful, boy were they wrong.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi … ir-n858281
This is why so many who voted for this disgraceful excuse sitting in the oval office are dumping him and dumping him fast. Donny lost about 20% a week ago in PA when the Dem hammered the republican in the special election. We as progressives need to take over the house to begin impeachment proceedings ASAP against not only Mr. Trump, but all the ultra-hypocritical conservative enablers and accomplices like Pence, Paul Ryan, McConnell and the rest of the traitors.
I think this needs mentioned. Trump's past looked pretty good when compared to the past of Hillary Clinton and her husband. What did get in the media is no match for what did not get in the media.
One, Bill Clinton was not on the ballot.
Two, if you voted FOR Trump, you knowingly voted FOR a self-admitted sexual predator, a serial liar, a man who routinely stiffed small businesses so he could profit financially, a cyber bully, and a serial adulterer.
All of those things were definitely and unquestionably known about Trump when the votes were cast.
Now, the majority, who didn't want this sleazeball anywhere near the Oval Office, must suffer the daily embarrassment that is our President because the minority thought "Trump's past looked pretty good."
Riiiggghhht.
Oh, but Bill Clinton would have been part of that White House and would have had access to the interns. Hillary laughed about getting an admitted rapist off the hook. When you add Bill's behavior, Hillary's tolerance and promotion of it, she's pretty sick. Many allegations against Trump but nothing proven. So, nothing in Trump's past equals Benghazi, Email scandal, Uranium One, corrupt Clinton foundation, etc. I could go on but the list is too long. When objectively compared to Hillary, Trump is a far, far better choice.
"Benghazi, Email scandal, Uranium One, corrupt Clinton foundation, "
Years of investigations, No charges. Hillary didn't assault anyone or have multiple affairs and the laughing incident has been debunked.
Trump admits assaulting women and having affairs, is a proven serial liar, cyber bully, and stiffer of small businesses. He admits all of those things.
No comparison, but I know you will never admit your rationalization out of self-protection.
I hope you don't mind a small edit suggestion. I would change "Years of investigations" to "Years of investigations by Republicans".
Someone might claim my change is hyperbole, but it is a factual and relevant piece of information.
If Republican investigators can't prove she did anything illegal, then it's hard to understand why some people keep saying she belongs in jail.
Because a liberal justice system refused to prosecute her for proven violations? As long as you're going to insinuate that Democratic investigators are either too stupid or too unethical to do the job right, might as well go all the way and tell the rest of the story, complete with slamming the Democrats.
Thanks. I don't think Wilderness agrees, but I'm also not sure what fact in my post he is attacking.
Pretty sure that was a bi-partisan investigation - I just can't see the Dems allowing nothing but R's to conduct any investigation, and of their pet project for president? Well, it just didn't happen.
And, of course, that we all know Hillary DID use illegal methods in her emails. The evidence was incontrovertible. And I think we all know why she wasn't prosecuted, too.
You're absolutely right. We don't know of Hillary assaulting anyone (I don't give much credit at all to the insinuations she arranged murders), we don't know of any affairs and the laughing incident is not only laughable in itself, she did exactly what she was suppose to do, both ethically and legally.
Of course, I don't know that Trump has "admitted" cyber bullying or stiffing small businesses, either, or that he assaulted anyone. Refusing to pay a contractor that didn't do the job is not "stiffing" them, and that's what HE claimed happened.
Yes, I realize that, in order to give Honest Don the huge benefit of the doubt, you "don't know" a lot. I'm wondering how difficult it must be to make sure you don't know" so many obvious things.
So. To be fair we should give credence to all possible negatives attributed to Trump but none possibly attributed to Hillary?
I found out Trump voters know little about Trump's failings because they only watch Fox News. Several Fox watchers I know have not heard much about the Stormy Daniels incident because Fox doesn't discuss it much, not to mention their lack of actual news on the Senate and Mueller investigations.
Funny though, Fox opinion people love the House fiasco and especially the liar Nunes and speak of it often as proof of a witch hunt against Donnie boy.
Yeah, I know. And it's "obvious" when so many people die shortly after disagreeing with Hillary that they were murdered at her request, too. (Sarcasm in case you missed it)
Hillary is free today from her many scandals because of a corrupt FBI and Justice Department. Others have done far less than her and gone to jail. Should any rational person read the Benghazi report, and I doubt anyone on this thread has done it as I have, and not be stunned at what Hillary Clinton got away with, they can no longer be considered a rational person. It may make for interesting discussion but is probably a bit more complicated than most Hillary supporters can handle.
Hi there Readmikenow, Are you saying Hillary laughed because she was able to get an admitted rapist off the hook? How do you know this?
GA
Have you listened to the tape of her and the interview? She laughs about it several times during the interview. That says it all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCDzRtZLUkc
Thanks for the link Readmikenow, I have seen this one, and others, before. I think context is important, and in this case, (and the others that I recall), the context was that she was laughing at the instances of ineptitude that forced the case to a plea bargain. I didn't hear any laughter that came from a source of her "beating" the system.
The context of her "laughter" was particularly easy to see in your link because the conversation was captioned, and you could tie the laughter to the comment that prompted it.
For instance; she laughed at the prosecutor's claim that she, (Hillary), didn't need to see the cut-out piece of the underwear that was tested. She chuckled at the lab throwing away that tested piece of underwear. She chuckled at the judge, (prosecutor?), wanting to talk to the defendant -- about the crime, without her present.
I recall that, over the years that this has been offered as a criticism, other non- biased, (I don't claim to be one of them - I don't like Hillary Clinton), folks have come to the same conclusion as I did.
You apparently see it differently. I think your interpretation is just a partisan perspective. Of course that is only my opinion. I know yours is different - but I still think it is wrong. Criticism is much more effective when it is truthful and deserved. Otherwise it is just a baseless attack.
I think that Hillary is a lot like like Trump; in that in their pasts, both offer plenty of true stuff you can use as a club. No need to make it up, so why do it?
GA
As someone who worked in the legal field would realize a child rape case is no laughing matter. It goes deeper. The attorney representing the girl gave details of the dirty tricks pulled by Hillary. I could go on...but it would involve too much back and forth.
Thanks for the reply Readmikenow, I don't remember reading stuff from the girl's lawyer. I will see if I can dig that up. It may affect my opinion. But based on the videos, I wonder if it will change my thoughts on the context of her "laughter."
ps. I don't think one would need to work in the legal field to think that child rape is not a laughing matter.
GA
So once again, when the last few remaining trump sheep have no real legal or moral defense of the elderly obese orange blob and his pay off of porn actress Stormy Daniels, the automatic default position is to desperately try to drag Bill and Hillary Clinton into the conversation and make false comparisons between them and the Trumps? Seriously? Is that it? That all you got?
Well sorry, living in the 1990's like Russian comrades at fox channel are stuck in doesn't save sloppy Michael Cohen from disbarment for making an illegal or unethical pay off of 130K to Stormy, or an illegal campaign finance breach which could result in prison, nor does it save the traitor in the oval office who just congratulated our arch enemy Vladimir Putin for his success in a bogus fixed election, from removal and prison if he's lucky.
We haven't even reached the eye of this storm yet and there appears to be many more weather disturbances rumbling on the horizon. More litigation filed by many more women. Did Donny pay them off too and if so how much? I don't know a single woman who would even consider standing less than a mile away from this STD hound unless paid a million dollars for taking the gamble. All this litigation is enough to make anyone look like this.
lol, If he still has any assets left, I wonder how much Melanie would be awarded by a divorce court judge? Who gets custody of the Stormy stuff? Was there a prenup and did Donny or sloppy Michael Cohen sign it and is it valid or unenforceable?
Holy lie detector tests batman. Hey, it looks like Donny was lying. No, really??
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politi … ir-n858281
I didn't know mueller is a republican, but lots of republicans hate Trump. I disagree with the "conservative FBI" comment. James Comey is a friend of the Clinton's and is being accused of obstruction if justice. He also leveled several charges against her regarding her personal server and then failed to recommend prosecution. I don't think that behavior is republican or conservative.
Somebody needs to tell Trump that it's only okay if a Clinton does it...
Clinton was impeached by the House. Is that what you mean by "okay"??
Exactly, and if Paul Ryan is unable or refuses to fulfill his obligation to impeach Mr. Trump NOW for his unprecedented multiple high crimes, humanitarian offenses, misdemeanors, allegiance to a foreign enemy and apparent debilitating mental illnesses as many experts from Yale, Harvard etc assert, he is nothing less than derelict of duty and considered an accomplice of Mr. Trump's and he himself must be ousted from public office NOW so the process of rectifying this dire emergency can begin ASAP.
Not only do we find evidence of conspiracy / collusion to undermine democracy in the public record and inevitably within the special prosecutor's Russia investigation, but it appears as if we've discovered conspiracy / collusion to gag women like Stormy and many others using NDA's.
The dots appear to be connected - multiple women victims --> national enquirer --> Michael Cohen --> Mr. Trump
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 … onald-tru/
So where's Trump's polygraph test?
The Republican party's lack of courage and mealy-mouthed weakness in the face of Trump's obvious lack of fitness is going to cost them in the midterms. Many honorable and self-respecting Republicans (like my husband) are leaving the party over this. Ryan is the poster boy for "Profiles in Sycophancy."
I saw Trump's wife doing a toss salad and shallowing a foot long Dong on a porn film.
Anything wrong with that? It's just sex folks, too extreme for me, but what the hell.
A. ) Unprecedented multiple high crimes, SUCH AS?
B. ) Humanitarian offenses, SUCH AS?
C. ) Misdemeanors, SUCH AS?
D. ) Allegiance to a foreign enemy SUCH AS?
E. ) Debilitating mental illnesses, SUCH AS?
A.) Treason?
B.) Grabbing women by the ...you know what?
C.) Constantly lying?
D.) Russia?
E.) Delusions of grandeur?
A. ) Treason: SUCH AS?
B. ) Inappropriately Grabbing Women … Like they didn't instigate it? or enjoy it … ( way back when.)
C. ) Constantly lying? WHEN? (He exaggerates to make points, not the same thing as lying, intention-wise.)
D. ) Russia? WHAT ABOUT RUSSIA?
E. ) Delusions of grandeur? HUH?
Honestly, I didn't think that we still needed to list all of Trump's crimes and misdemeanors. I thought they had already been reported on. But once again, here's just a few of Mr. Trump's obvious crimes that we know of from public record, this of course excludes the special prosecutors work product..
A. Trump's Treason - Trump using our national airwaves while we are at war with Russia to ask his comrade Vladimir Putin and his agents to use espionage against the United States during the 2016 election.
Trump's refusal to enact sanctions against Russia for their attacks on the United States
Mr. Trump appeasing, cowering to and congratulating Vladimir Putin for his fake election win while we are at war with Russia and after Russian agents continue to infiltrate our elections, threaten our vitally important power grid, water supply and national security. That's just plain insanity just like Trump's entire baboon show.
Trump's constant praising of Vladimir Putin while attacking our POWs, gold star families and NATO allies.
B. Trump's Humanitarian Crimes - Continuously and intentionally sabotaging our healthcare system by attacking the ACA which benefits millions of Americans - Rescinding laws that protect our water supply etc
C. Trump's High Crimes and Misdemeanors - Trump's obstruction of justice against FBI director James Comey, his tweet threats against James Comey ~ Trump's abuse of power against James Comey etc
Trump's campaign personnel meeting with and conspiring with Russian agents at trump tower in a concerted effort to receive stolen info.
Cambridge Analytica ----> white nationalist Steve Bannon ----> Mr. Trump
Trump's constitutional violation of the emoluments clause by accepting gifts / monetary consideration from foreign governments, nazis, white nationalists, even terrorists who patronize his properties.
Trump's pathological lying to Americans and our allies
D. Trump's constant cowering to Vladimir Putin while destroying America etc
E. Where do you even begin to discuss Trump's apparent severe mental illness? Here's just one example endless examples. it takes a special kind of dark, disturbed possessed individual to make a gigantic fool out of himself by maniacally attacking a disabled person.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX9reO3QnUA
Just one of thousands of psychiatrists who is alarmed by the unhinged megalomaniac in our oval office. And we thought Richard Nixon was mentally ill?
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/ … -amendment
You are wasting your time Jake! Cognitive dissonance is the tunnel vision causing people to see only what they want to see. I don't understand why. This is not a campaign. It is about the person sitting in the WH and the "leader" of the free world.
Yes, a total waste of time. This response is so disturbing to me.
Inappropriately Grabbing Women … Like they didn't instigate it? or enjoy it … ( way back when.)
Well, Mr. Trump lost about 20% support in PA a week ago when the Dem slammed the republican candidate in the special election but what do conservatives expect? Mr. Creepy Traitor Trump has also lost about 8% MORE of the women vote, and many real evangelicals who thought he was just putting on a madman act during the campaign and was being truthful about his paid adulterous incidents are beginning to realize it was not an act and he was pathologically lying about his gross sex life and as a result, they are dumping him because they realize they'll never make it to heaven if they continue to support a despicable gross old man who endorses pedophiles like Roy Moore here on Earth.
Many former trump supporters are starting to get the disturbing message, so it's not really a waste of time .
Who honestly believes this heathen has a snowballs chance in hell to make it heaven after willfully forsaking God to align himself with pedophiles, porn, adultery and creepy old man Trump?
I saw that claim by a self -proclaimed Xtian. Not a real one of course as shown by her posts for Trump's innocence. I never realized there were so many fake religious folks pulling for the moron.
Trump and his wife can have sex with can of worms, as far as I care. Although, 17 women acused Trump of sexual misconduct or abuses. That would be grounds for impeachment.
Beyond that, most US presidents should be brought up for criminal murder charges of millions of people around the world. Or US will set themselves up for a ground zero war soon.
"... 17 women acused Trump of sexual misconduct or abuses. That would be grounds for impeachment."
NO, IT ISNT! Read the Federalist Papers.
Like George Carlin says.
I don't believe anything the Government has to say. It's all about more for them and less for you, since my youth of study.
The State and Centro Banker are the greediest scumbag of the earth. Morlocks and meal worms have a higher standard of ethics.
Nationaism is more dangerous than Religion. Quote by Richard Dawkins.
I couldn't be any happier with our US President, Donald Trump. If Hillary was over seeing this level of success, the mainstream media would do nothing but sing praises to Hillary all day, every day.
It's so freaking funny how these 'liberals' suddenly turn puritan when a republican is in office. It's like they don't believe anything they say they believe at all, ever, they're just silly puppets hooked to the teats of globalist left wing media vomit.
As a liberal, I'm all for free love between consensual adults. Anything goes, as long as both agree. What I am NOT for is powerful, rich men getting away with predatory behavior by silencing, bullying, and demeaning the women they have assaulted and abused.
This is not a liberal or conservative position. It is a position of common decency and rule of law.
Not fond of him. I don't hate anyone.
Your boring, predictable reference to Bill Clinton when confronted with the truth about Honest Don is expected and noted.
Oh Shit! It's been noted!
ps. I did consider a euphemism, or less stark word, but no other choice worked :-)
GA
Assaulted and abused. So who are you talking about? I thought this was a thread about Donald Trump?
It's not the sex, rich guys get extra sex. It's the lying, it's the coercion, trying to buy her silence, involving other people in your seedy actions, (if to be believed) the threats of harm. I also am sick of the hypocrisy. His supporters /Fox types regularly bring up Clinton's bad actions (yes he was wrong) but go through mental/ethical gymnastics to excuse Trump.
Absolutely. When you see a desperate attempt by the remaining Trump voters to drag Bill and Hillary into the conversation and falsely compare the Clintons to Mr. Trump, you know it's a sign there are no factual arguments. It's just a default used to distract from the current white house INSANITY and criminal investigation that is right on track to flush out the white house evil.
Every once in a while when surfing, I accidentally land on fox fake channel and its like going back in time, a dysfunctional nonsensical regression to the 1990's. Their older viewers are obviously not interested in the truth about the national security danger the unhinged dark individual like Mr. Trump represents to the world, so they just hide their heads in the sand and enjoy a Clinton bashing session to make them feel a little better, as if it's relevant and as if it leads to a better quality of life for them.
I asked the question days ago when I found out Mr. Cohen apparently found it necessary to pay Stormy's attorney 130K from a home equity line of credit, why on Earth does a New York attorney who has Mr Wonderful Trump as a client, need to establish a lien on his property to obtain a mere 130K which is chicken feed to the average NY attorney? Now, I think we're getting the answer to this query and it's extremely disturbing.
Just a question Jake, you ever going to write an article for Hubpages? Является ли русский родным языком?
Yes of course mike, I'm writing articles right now, some for Hubpages. I also self edit them for spelling, creativity, imagination, proper structure, visual appeal and of course public interest. I hope everyone enjoys them when published.
So mike, any theories as to why a big shot big apple big wig attorney like Michael Cohen placed a lien on his property just to cough up 130K to pay Stormy's counsel on her behalf? Reports say it was a home equity line of credit.
Have you seen pictures of him lately, he doesn't look like he gets much sleep. It's a creative commons photo.
Poor Melania.
Former Playboy model Karen McDougal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo2ISWrQAsU
She's almost as sleazy as he is. Birds of a feather.
Edited to add: I am referring to McDougal, not Melania. I actually like Melania, even though I don't feel too sorry for her current circumstances. She had to have known when she entered into marriage with Honest Don that this is what it would be like.
Well yeah, it's absolutely alarmingly disturbing news for the country and I'd like to say I'm deeply sympathetic for Melanie who has a quite lurid past herself, but when you marry an insecure much older broken down man for what we'd have to assume is a little money, what else can you expect but pain and anguish?
I'm not too worried about her at this point even though the flood gates of paid off women appears to have been activated, I don't think she's as dumb as her grandpa hubby is and if she's not in covert talks with attorneys to calculate her approximate settlement amount, I'd be very surprised. If Donalds not broke or leveraged up to his chins at this point begging for pennies like Jared appears to be, she might still get a few bucks and maybe a 'make America great again' hat out of the deal.
Melania will make a mint on this one way or the other. It is sad when there is a young child involved.
In just about any other case it would be very sad and I'd agree with you diane, but actually, DACA's have earned the right to stay in America through their hard work and contributions to this nation, but I think little Barron Von Drumpf should absolutely be deported back to wherever this dysfunctional and evil genetic line came from before he grows up to emulate the most dangerous and unholy entity on this planet, his hate filled grampy daddy..
Who needs another free grazing Trump from this disgraceful anti-American family growing up to pollute, terrorize and endanger the United States?
Here's what respected General Barry McCaffrey said a few days ago: ALARMING.
"Reluctantly I have concluded that President Trump is a serious threat to US national security. He is refusing to protect vital US interests from active Russian attacks. It is apparent that he is for some unknown reason under the sway of Mr Putin."
Anyone seen Barron's birth certificate lately? Is he from here or one of those Russian block countries like Melanie?
"...actually, DACA's have earned the right to stay in America through their hard work and contributions to this nation..."
On this we can agree. I don't know that a child has "earned" the right to stay, but I do think they should be allowed to do so. It's really sad that our great legislature refuses to address the issue even after being given a plan to accomplish what needs doing.
This is so frustrating! Why do you think they are not addressing it?
Because illegals produce $$ and votes. Because it is a difficult topic, with supporters ranging from deport all of them to open the borders completely and give complete amnesty to any who can get across it. Because they just don't CARE about the lives of the peasants that live outside Capital Hill.
The largest single reason is probably because D's refuse to work with R's and vice versa. There is no compromise permitted any more, not on hardly anything, and when it comes to illegal aliens in the country there is a very different opinion between liberals and conservatives on what to do about it. Witness the sanctuary cities/states and the willingness to violate federal laws.
Maybe I'm just too frustrated and angry with our lawmakers, but more and more it seems to me that it's going to take the likes of Donald Trump (with an acceptance that his task is to enforce the law) and the deportation of a few million before the people wake up and force our Great Leaders to actually lead. They're going to allow thousands/millions of lives to be ruined before they'll do anything.
This really strikes a raw nerve with me. I've had friends and family members legally come to the United States and become citizens. No DACA people have earned NOTHING. They need to go through the process just like everyone else. I don't care how they got here. They KNEW they were illegal. I will say this again, ALL of them can go to the US Embassy in the country where they came from and begin the process. I'm tired of DACA as I consider it an insult to the many of people who legally go through the process to become US Citizens. In all honesty, if these DACA people had started the process years ago, they wouldn't have problems now. They are adults. If I were president, I would send every one back to their country of origin to start the process.
I'm admittedly pretty ignorant about it, but I continue to see reports that DACA kids can't apply for citizenship as long as they are here illegally. You're asking that they pick up and move to, what is to them, a totally foreign country, make a life there and then start the years long procedure to regain the life that they had here. And, if it works, to move back into the country they grew up in.
It's not their fault, they did not come voluntarily and most of them know no other country than the US. Give them a break and allow them to become citizens without having to disown the only country they know, without giving up their life here. Yes, they need to actually become a citizen but there is nothing to be gained by shoving them into another, unknown, country to do it. Except ruined lives.
Sorry, I still don't care. As adults they could begin the process. I don't buy into "it's not their fault" nonsense. They're adults now. They should have to wait the same amount of time, pay the same amount of money and go through the same number of interviews as someone who respects the United States enough to follow its laws. Where is the benefit to follow the laws if people think they can just sneak in and remain for decades and then become a citizen? You either have immigration laws or you don't. The laws can't apply to some and not others. If we refuse to punish people because of emotion, we might as well let drug dealers and thieves go because they're just trying to support their families and they deserve a break because "it's not their fault."
Stormy Daniels describes her alleged affair with Donald Trump
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/stormy-dan … interview/
60 Minutes - Stormy Daniels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlegwI19CHE
*Original airing commercials included
I saw a sound bite of the interview Stormy had with Anderson Cooper. He looked like he wanted to die and sink into the floor. What man compares his daughter to a porn star?
A man who is obviously psychologically twisted, perverted and very ill that's who, and honestly, how do we know that this strange creature has never been intimate with his daughter? He sure acts like he has.
And what kind of man allows a woman to SPANK him like a cowardly dog? That was just eerily sublime. According to Stormy's account in the interview, that's exactly what she did to him, the so called president. Now, can we imagine what Vladimir Putin might have on this guy?
The kind that calls his own daughter a "nice piece of azz." This might be a paraphrase.
And what percent of the population since the beginning of time has not slipped up? Donald knew he slipped up with Stephanie, the attractive and alluring porn star, (by profession), and he regretted the single incident big time. (… a pity he couldn't have kept it in his pants, but the temptation provided BY the porn star overwhelmed him at the time.)
She admitted that she did it because she was interested in the TV show audition he offered.
He had used this offer as a ploy, as so many other men were ALLOWED to do BY all the the other overly-ambitious bimbos. They ALL ACCEPTED advances on the casting couch, in lieu of actual talent. Why didn't these women hold the men accountable for their misbehavior AT THE TIME?
Stormy Stephanie could have said, "No!"
The other so-called innocent "victims" could have said "No!"
Did they turn in the opposite direction? Did they get the heck out of there … or stay away in the first place?
My daughter is an actress. She has been propositioned. She told me she would NEVER have intercourse (!) or even get anywhere near a man in power to advance her career. She has nothing more to do with them as soon as she catches on to any impending shenanigans.
IF stupid Stephanie spanked him, SHE didn't have to.
That a father is attracted to his own daughter is probably quite common. Maybe Donald is just proud of her beauty. What parent is not proud of their children's attributes? That he ever touched his daughter is PURELY speculation.
That he is trying to help the country where NO ONE ELSE COULD ---->>> this is what we need to focus on.
What? should we elect Stephanie as President?
{{{{shudder}}}}
That is how I felt when I read your post. If a man had referred to me as "a piece of @ss" in the presence of my father, he would have decked him. Trump told Howard Stern it is okay to refer to Ivanka as "a piece of @ss."
In whose world is this normal? And that's addressing only part of your post. The rest is just as dysfunctional.
And you know this...?
Oh, ok.
Btw,
Someone has issues.
Is your daughter stage or screen actress?
Maybe. I don't agree with most of your views, Kathryn, but DO believe women who scream "rape" and "abuse" should do it at the time it's happening. Also, the actresses knew the price they had to pay, they called it the casting couch in my Mom's day. There were other producers than Harvey Weinstein. Stephen Spielberg doesn't have a rep for being a pig.
Two of them did not say rape. They said consensual. Right now the issue is illegal campaign contributions and the possibility that someone, like Putin, could or is blackmailing the president.
We are beyond the sex.
… why are you worried about him being blackmailed?
In any close situation we are likely to confide in someone, and especially a sexual one not with a spouse, a President is open to blackmail, because he is a high profile person. That's why Stormy waited to bring this up now. It revived her career and she can get more money out of him if she plays her cards right.
Most Presidents confide in their wives, (and hopefully someday husbands), but that's a relationship of trust, an affair with a porn star isn't. And before you attack Clinton, they had an open marriage pretty early in their careers, and Hillary has had affairs too. I believe they do love each other in a way, as intellectual and career kindred spirits. He stayed close to her for months after she lost the election. Plus all his affairs were with consulting adults, it's not like a Roy Moore thing.
"... a President is open to blackmail, because he is a high profile person."
...and how is he in jeopardy for blackmail by Putin or anyone else, exactly?
Do you think the video of him and the two Russian prostitutes urinating on the bed Obama slept in would be okay for Putin to release to the public? Well, okay then....
Or that Putin proved he helped get the Hillary emails at Trump's request? And this is just small potatoes to what Putin may have on him from past years. Really Kate, think about it.....
You can't be serious. How is he able to be blackmailed by Putin? He's scared to death of him. Putin must have something really serious on him. It will be good to see when it comes out and we can get this idiot out of office.
Are you serious? Why can't he come out and say things about Putin. He readily talks about Rocket Man. When people have info on a high government official, it not only puts that person and their family in jeopardy but also the country.
I guess you are asking rhetorical questions?
Breaking. Cat 5 Stormy continues to brew over Trumpland. CNN just reported Stormy Daniels is suing Mr. Cohen for defamation, let's hope it's accurate. It's about time AMERICA begins to slam Cohen and his client Trump for their reckless words and behavior and Trump's unconscionable attacks on democracy and our healthcare system. They are absolutely not above the law and Mueller will prove that soon.
Yes, I know she's a porn actress who according to her words, apparently spent a night or two with an orange cretin, but compared to the evil charlatan Trump family, she's Mother Teresa.
Viva Stormy
at this point its three against one and you guys are making stuff up out of thin air!
I think you are being intentionally obtuse.
Do you have evidence to substantiate your assertion that he can't be blackmailed?
Your daughter's lack of high visibility could be that she was not willing to play along. It is an admirable trait. It does show the power that these men wield.
… power the world (society) gives them.
Not just making stuff up Kathryn, here's the report which indicates Trump's sloppy lawyer Cohen is in pretty deep with a defamation law suit against him. If I recall, Stormy's attorney M. Avenatti warned him about pre-mature verbal slop just before the damning interview aired on 60 minutes, but you know these Trump style big mouth above the law types, they just can't keep their traps locked.
From reports, it looks like He and Donny have been getting away with it in NY for decades and so far, Donny's still getting away with his charlatan CONJob and Russian Roulette in OUR WHITE HOUSE.
In addition to the threats Stormy claims she was subjected to in a parking lot, yesterday Stormy's attorney got in a beef about the polygraph photo with another one of Trump's lawyers or Cohen's friend or whatever on Anderson Cooper and guess what Mr. Avenatti said? Buckle up, there's more photos to come:
Wouldn't it be poetic if Stormy got Trump before Mueller?
He slipped up and had a party in his pants. He can still do his job
… and you are still making stuff up.
The Way I see it
who else could be running the country without turning it into a third world socialistic nation at this point?
My vote would have been for Huckabee. But Noooo, he was too religious, or whatever.
Well Kathryn, at least you can just pretend this is fake news if it makes you feel better but it looks like Cohen and Trump are in deep.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/27/porn-st … ation.html
And by the way, I just saw Richard Benveniste on CNN, special prosecutor for Richard Nixon's watergate, discussing why Mr. Trump is finding it extremely difficult to hire strong reputable attorneys to defend him in the Russian investigation, ALL are treating him like poisonous radioactive dust, no surprise there, but guess what Benveniste said Trump's new nick-name is in the DC circuit? ---'SPANKY'---
I have a feeling his nickname will soon be 'Cold Borscht Soup Face' once Vladimir Putin is finished toying with him.
"President Donald Trump has denied trying to do business in Russia. But Cohen confirmed to the House Intelligence Committee in a statement that the Trump Organization considered a “Trump Tower Moscow” proposal in the months from September 2015 to January 2016, but dropped it."
http://www.newsweek.com/michael-cohen-t … yer-657344
oooh oohhh ohhh
You must have seen dozens of TV spots where Trump's lies are shown. In one spot he says one thing, and hour later, he says the opposite. Fox is the fake news. Hannity is completely off the rails. Carlson is a lazy journalist, he interviews crazy people so far out and pretends they are from the "left." They are just insane. Laura Ingram is actually a good journalist, although I don't agree with her much of the time. But she won't go far there as a woman in Republican land.
Fox News began with an agenda from the beginning. It was bought and paid for by rich, ultra conservative people who wanted to advance a particular agenda. Criticize CNN and MSNBC all you want, but they hired people and organically grew as their news anchors reported news--actual facts--in their own style.
And as far as Huckabee and Pence, this is a secular country, according to our Constitution. You probably only know the 2nd amendment.
Yet we come unglued about Trump's shenanigans.
Some people think he is a man of God. I think he is pretending to be a man of God. He knows its good for the country and for his ability to do his job as POTUS. The success of democracies depend on the prevalence of morals which are based on spiritual precepts, (which religion provides,) within society.
Without morals/spirituality/religion we would not have laws.
We would not have order.
That doesn't change the fact it's a secular country. We can all choose the religion of our choice, and spirituality is very important. But the Christian Right has to stop acting like they are the only "correct" religion, or the only one represented in America.
Ha! That one's so cute it doesn't even qualify as name-calling.
You got me Randy. ^5
GA
Well, it sure might be 'cute' if a drunk immature college kid got spanked in his underwear by a porn actress at a convention somewhere, but I'd say America agrees it's humiliating, disgusting and a monsterous national disgrace when someone who claims to be president like 'Spanky' Trump claims, is caught in a compromising black-mailable position on his hands and knees.
According to Stormy's attorney, this is just the beginning and can you imagine what Vladimir Putin has on his stooge?
I guess character is no longer a prerequisite for charlatans like Jerry Falwell Junior who believe it or not, is still with Spanky Trump even after he endorsed an alleged child molester.for senate named Roy Moore.
Looks like Stormy's attorney wasn't kidding when he said he was just getting started with 'SPANKY'. He's demanding that Spanky Trump be deposed.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertai … 094c987362
Bill Clinton was compelled to deposition and he was an extremely busy president, Spanky Trump spends half his time on a golf course and the other half eating cheeseburgers in bed watching cable news and maniacally tweeting in between sabotaging our country, I think he's got plenty of idled time.
Still no stories for Hubpages. So, can you respond? I think you can and choose not to.
Является ли русский родным языком?
I'm not quite sure what you're getting at mike, but yes, once again, I write articles and they will soon be published here and elsewhere, mostly political in nature but I'm trying to stay on topic here in this forum, which the header indicates pertains to Stormy porn actress and 'Spanky' Trump.
I just saw phony charlatan Jerry Falwell Junior on CNN where he clumsily fumbled through his interview about still supporting a gross elderly adulterer like Trump who just recently, while in office reportedly called certain countries 's-holes' behind closed doors and who continues to sabotage our healthcare system without remorse, both of which are of course very Christian things to say and do.
Needless to say, it was a sad, disturbing and pathetic interview with a possessed evangelical.
Essentially, Falwell said it's perfectly fine to hold Satan's hand if Satan gives you what you want here on earth. I didn't know that's what Christianity was all about. It was nothing less than astounding to see how corrupted and under the influence of evil he and many bible belt Christians have apparently become.
Huge Earth Shattering News : Spanky Trump's Stormy nightmare just went from bad to worse, Michael Avenatti who says he's in the process of vetting them, says the number of women who claim to have had some sort of relationship, liaison or creepy encounter with the Spankster rose from 6 to 8 and some have signed NDAs : Do we really think 8 is enough?
http://miami.cbslocal.com/2018/03/28/po … ent-trump/
6 women accusers up to 8? I guess that means Jerry Falwell Junior's Christian support for Mr. Trump just got even firmer right?
Also, a few days ago on Anderson Cooper's CNN spot, Jeffrey Toobin attorney, finally asked the $130,000 question that I asked when I first heard this stunning news of porn actresses and hush money NDA pay offs. In paraphrase he asked: Why did Mr. Cohen use a home equity line of credit, which according to reports he said himself that he used, to apparently pay Stormy's Beverly Hills attorney $130,000? ----STRANGE and SUSPICIOUS----
I think the answer is becoming clearer and clearer.
He was quiet and didn't tweet much for a few days during the Stormy interview. Maybe he needs another spanking. (I can't believe I wrote that in a public forum)! Those moral Grand Ole Perverts have warped my liberal Democrat sensibilities. Sigh.
Well, there is the consistent hypocrisy, which gets tedious. The phony piousness wears thin when they are all money grabbing snakes who apparently can't even keep up with their own beliefs (like the one pro life guy who wanted his GF to get an abortion). At least they are shamed into stepping down now.
That's right Jean, and charlatan disgrace Jerry Falwell Junior essentially said on CNN the other day that he'll tolerate porn or even a fake president who campaigns for a candidate who is accused of pedophilia as long as he gets what he wants from Spanky here on Earth.
Isn't that the very definition of a compact with the devil? Selling your soul to be eternally abused in the future in exchange for Earthly satisfaction now?
Yes, it is evil. These men have brought our country so low, and forget they work for us, the people. I believe some of them, probably many, were well meaning and waned to get things done for us. But some care only about the next election. I wonder why they spend millions to get a job that tops out at a pay of $200.000.00.(Not that I would mind making that)! I think that's why some people really believed Trump would "drain the swamp." But he made it worse, by bullying and hiring what seems to be a mafia family. None of them have a clue about what to do in whatever position he puts them in, and he doesn't know either. He doesn't learn from his mistakes as well.
And it's sad to see religious leaders backing him, especially for pedophiles. It shouldn't matter what a President does in his private life. But it does speak to his or her character. He really has to go before he does more damage. But Pence is just as bad. He staged a coup days after the inauguration to try to get rid of Trump and be President. That phony pious look drives me crazy. It's hard to believe in any of them.
In the meantime, nobody should change the Constitution, or we will go back and forth with each successive President undoing what the prior one did. I never paid attention to Executive Orders before, and have watched him undo much of the good President Obama did. It's quite a mess.
I absolutely agree Jean. Squinty Mike Pence, phony Christian is up to his eyeballs in the Russian Criminal Investigation as well considering he was a transition manager for the Russian owned and operated Trump Campaign. Don't be too surprised if he's gone soon right along side Trump's accomplice con man Paul Ryan.
I'm watching Michael Avenatti, Stormy's attorney on CNN and he's demanding that Steve Mnuchin, greedy little weasely treasury secretary release the 'Suspicious Activity' report that the bank filed regarding sloppy Michael Cohen's 130K payment or wire transfer to Stormy's attorney in Beverly Hills.
Will Mnuchin oblige, or will he help Cohen and Trump cover up this incident?
The way this case is evolving, I wouldn't be surprised if Stormy gets Spanky before Mueller does, but then again, even if he falls at the hands of a porn actress, that doesn't protect him from Mueller's indictment.
Look at this wonderful piece of work called weasel Steve Mnuchin; Will he release the suspicious activity report or try to protect Spanky by covering up the paper trail?
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Staying on topic, so sharlee01, do you think Gorgeous Steve Mnuchin will comply and deliver the suspicious activity report which was submitted by the bank that processed Trump attorney Michael Cohen's suspicious wire transfer of 130K, or, will he illegally obstruct Michael Avenatti's and the worlds right to inspect the documents pertaining to Mr. Trump's porn actress scandal just like they constantly obstruct the truth in the cover up of the Russian criminal investigation?
FYI. Steve Mnuchin has a rather dubious past of foreclosing on thousands of Americans, he's been described as a sewer not swamp creature, and he's has already been the subject of white house scandals with his money grubbing wife. He's no good and not that good looking either I might add.
Not sure if you are aware? Mueller gave a statement just last week that the president is not being investigated obstruction? I don't buy into any form of conspiracy theories. So, to comment on will "the world" see or inspect the documents pertaining to Mr. Trump's porn actress scandal. I will leave that to a judge, and the our laws pertaining to this form of law suit. I think I made myself very clear this thread in regards to my feelings on Trump's affair or affairs with woman. I am interested in how he does his job as president. I am interested in seeing him keep his campaign promises, and solving pressing problems. The rest disinterests me. I think one would be hard pressed to find many presidents that have not been evolved in womanizing. Some worse than others. Clinton - hint hint... Kennedy- Hint hint.... I don't condone it, but very much realize it is a very big part of our society.
Steve Mnuchin has a very diverse background. To label him "dubious" for foreclosing on home loans, this seems unfair? If one apply for a home or business loan, and signs an agreement on said loan. The person is obliged to keep to the legal agreement. If unable to keep the agreement they are exposed to being in default. So, not sure why you think or feel Mnuchin would be out of bounds for foreclosing on home loans? Do you actually feel loans should be given, but not paid? Is it acceptable to sign an agreement, and not keep to the agreement? Perhaps to just be given their home if they find they can not pay for it. This train of thought seems very odd to me, almost ridiculous...
Do you still believe Mexico will pay for the wall as Spanky promised you guys?
Mexico , Guatemala , Honduras, Belize ....what 300 million+ a year to "nation build" these countries ................Trump and I know how they'll pay !
Well Sharlee01, you're wrong about the investigation - Spanky Trump and his entire family as a matter of fact, are the subjects of an ongoing criminal investigation headed by Robert Mueller. Obstruction, Conspiracy, Collusion, Money Laundering etc is the scope.
Who will get him first? Mueller, Stormy, Russians? OTHER? If Trump is not in prison soon it will be the devil's work.
Here's the Wonderful Steve Mnuchin in vivid color: He's actually a scum of the Earth sewer dweller opportunist and his money grubbing gold digger of a wife is no better: Probably why Spanky adores him so much:
http://time.com/money/4639480/steve-mnu … s-onewest/
Is that what you thought at the time Spanky kept repeating "believe me, Mexico will pay for the wall!" or is it another excuse why he cannot keep his word to his base? So why does he need billions from the US taxpayers for constructing the wall those countries are gonna pay for them in some mystical manner? Inquiring minds and that....
Randy ,How about keep this real simple , We pay for the wall today and tomorrow , next week next year we stop foreign aid to countries that export their poor people , prison population , welfare recipients and excess children to the US ?
Even I could do that .
But Horse, did you really think that's what Trump meant? I mean really....
What I think is that a lot of people see black and white and nothing in the grey area like say the president of Mexico thinking ........." Hey there's a new sheriff in town better reign in our most profitable export business' " those list above plus say heroin , coke , mass produced amphetamines etc.......
His "big, beautiful wall" is never going to be built. It isn't cost effective or practical and it will never happen.
Trump's promise of a border wall, and the raucous approval of his angry followers, will go down in history as one of those embarrassing moments we'd all like to forget, like when George Wallace stood at the schoolhouse door to stop segregation of schools.
History will not be kind to Trump. Dubya is so grateful.
You aren't gonna give a real answer to my question are you, Horse? I can only assume it's because you know Trump was merely getting his base riled up and had no idea how he would accomplish this promise and you fell for it too. There, I answered it for you so you can chill now.
New Websters Dictionary
Trump Derangement ; defini. To suffer personal -political insanity in spite of even agreeing with social ,cultural political issues at hand , personal anger overshadowing any ability to reason through political differences even when agreeing to said issue.
Randy , sorry I apparently left the forum overnight leaving you in an minor uproar , The wall ? Yes !...we don't care how it takes as long as it is built .When we say "built" we agree with some of what's been said earlier , It doesn't have to be anything BUT a virtual wall of electronic monitoring to begin with , recording and informing all of us exactly how much traffic there is , to start we don't care if that means soldiers every eighty yards to insure that illegal immigration stops , we don't care if its an invisible electronic barrier rendering 240 volts of enforcement to end this illegal chain of over populating illegal immigrants , In California it needs to be nothing less than a solid, high , impassible structured border wall because California itself is politically out of control , a rogue state . A majority of American voters want this "wall "nothing less , nothing more . Clear enough ?
A nation of a constitutional law, by definition being a constitutional republic cannot be so IF and WHEN these very basic and fundamental laws are ignored by a large amount of its population or outside political influences . Our constitution demands that our elected leadership protects our borders and its people from within or without its borders .
Lastly , I wish all Trump Obstructionist's , many of you here , would actually read the contents of the constitution at least enough to understand that it's contents as the whole are more important than is just the first amendment . You can't have singularly just the parts you like but you have it as a whole. In THIS debate , protections of the border is a constitutional requirement .
Like it or not.
Did you believe Mexico would pay for the wall, was my question. So far you've given me a lecture on other countries and on the Constitution, but no clear answer as to if you took Spanky at his word during the campaign.
I've already told you there is more than one way to skin that cat , I knew that immediately upon Trump saying it . trade , foreign aid , nafta , humanitarian aid , military aid ,reclaimed Mexican Job loss , If we shut down 50 % of illicit drug traffic , that alone would pay indirectly for the wall in five years time .
How many ways to pay for the wall do you want me to list ?
Okay, I suppose that's as close as I'm gonna get to a real answer.
By the way, my dad also landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day, and went on to the Battle of the Bulge and thence to liberating prison camps. He too fought under Patton in the tank corp of the 3rd army. Our fathers probably saw each other a few times during the war. Small world indeed!
No kidding !, I for one love those guys [girls] they are the greatest generation for more than one reason ! Is your dad still here ? If not , seriously tell him Thank You from a patriot next time you talk to him . My dad didn't talk a lot about his experiences enough or maybe I didn't listen enough .
I was fortunate to meet many of his company members during my youth as they started having reunions not too long after the war. I became friends with their children during these reunions and still hear from some now and then.
My Dad died about 12 years ago at the age of 85 working on the farm as he always wanted. He and his brother--who fought in the Philippines-- told many harrowing and sometimes humorous tales of their service. As you said, The Greatest Generation.
I've done a lot of research on my fathers and many troops incredible service in WWII , the "Battle of the Bulge ", when the German army pounded through the lines the 84th Inf.for one , was directly in it's path , after a horrible month of fighting in the dead of winter the Germans were pushed back and ultimately sent into defeat . My father talked of running out of ammo and supplies reducing the troops to hand to hand combat with anything they could use . One well known rumor was that the 84th 'railsplitters ' was so titled the "Hatchet Men " by the Nazi' troop leaders At the end of my fathers life all that he held of his service was this shoulder patch and his purple hearts and silver star . I have digressed but our veterans , these veterans and ALL like them ,are the greatest patriots known to modern mankind .
RG, I never believed Mexico would pay for the wall. I believed in the wall, and a man that offered a fix in his agenda.... I still believe we need a better way to secure the border. I won't go through all the beaten down reasons why we need the wall for sake of argument. It still baffles me why so many can't see the truth about why Trump won? It was his agenda.... No one cared about his past with women, due to womanizing has become a big part of our society, and ignored .Many that voted for him could care less that he did not give pretty speeches. You see those speeches meant little to someone without a job or a raise for over 10 years. or seeing that their children had no chance of coming close to the opportunities they had. Due to liberalism heading the country toward socialism. No one cared that his hair is orange. You see we where accustom to a president with a pin head and blue lips. (sarcasm). Just to point out looks certainly don't make the person. The liberals have no chance in the next election. You see we voted for a progressive agenda, and Trump is working his butt off to keep his promise. RG - think agenda., because in the end it 's all that will matter to those with innate common sense.
Trump was embedded by Vladimir Putin and the electoral college failed to fulfill their obligation to obstruct him from becoming president as the founders had intended, that's how Spanky Trump, disgraceful "JOHN" of at least one porn actress that we know of, ended up in our white house.
He sure is working his big elderly Kentucky Fried Chicken butt off alright, on the golf course while he destroys the country. Probably the laziest elderly man I've ever seen, the world will celebrate when he's thrown in prison soon
At least I received a clear answer from you Shar, unlike others I've queried with the same question.
Has anybody seen Stephanie in A c t i o n?
I mean on film?
I'm pretty curious to see her work at this point!
Maybe when Trump gets done being POTUS, he'll do some porn himself!
There will be millions $$$$ in it for him!
No?
Ewwwww...Somebody stop the films !........;-]
… just comic relief.
( I know ... not so much. )
Nobody ever says Kathryn's not a funny girl !
Thanks, ahorseback.
Sorry about your 120 day ban!
I hope you know how to be more careful.
… and maybe you can tell "us" how too.
Yes Kathryn , Change your party affiliation to democrat and you'll never get banned , no matter how much you offend the opposite party's sensibilities . Why would we expect Hubpages to act any different than face book .
I'm a lifelong Democrat and have been banned at least three times. Your explanation, o wise one?
Has it occurred to you that people get banned, accept responsibility for it, and move on without creating a drama of victimization around it?
Oh Pretty , apparently you haven't read about the lastest from F-B- , Twitter ,etc.... at least some finally admit their banning . Actually it bothers me less now that I finished unpublishing 1,000 hubs . Don't know about starting any more.
Wow! Giving up such a lucrative income from your hubs simply because you were banned? Do you believe if you repeat an untruth many times it will become fact? No wonder you're a fan of Spanky cause he does this often. As PP said, get over it. I've served a 3 month ban as well, and I'm certainly not a conservative. But keep on claiming your ban was because of your political affiliation and not your actions on the forums if it makes you feel better.
I suppose I've learned the hard way that I now couldn't care less about how the other side rejects common sense in politics ,regularly incites hatred and party hypocrisy .
That was my lesson to learn. Too bad that the alt-left hasn't gotten there yet.
Doesn't mean there is no "shadow banning" here or elsewhere though.
Yep...it may be that you're just special.
You're welcome! From now on I'll refer to you as Special Ed if you don't mind.
And I'm sure I can return such blatant immaturity as well .
Sure you can. You've shown quite a talent for it in the past.
I was just outside here enjoying the spring snowstorm of big soft wet snow flakes drifting lazily to ground and now here I am talking to you , want to seriously debate something ? .Happy friday Randy.
No, ordinary conversation with you is difficult enough. Cold there, eh? Sunny and warm here today but I'm heading to BC next week for the Maven Coalition. They're still skiing and snowboarding there so this ole southern boy will get to see some snow I imagine. Always wanted to try the luge.......
Happy Friday to you too, Horse.
Still skiing here in northern NH too, what is the Maven Coalition ? They wanted me to join the first Jamaican Bobsledders .;-}......I want some metal framework or fiberglass around me going down the ice.
HP has joined with Maven and there's a conference in Whistler next week some of us are attending. Don't know for sure what we're going to learn, but it can't hurt to attend.
Since I already have experience sliding on my back off my 30' roof a few years back I'm sorta accustomed to the feel of nothing around me. Didn't hurt too bad when I landed, but I noticed my heel bone protruding through my sock right below my ankle. It did hurt an hour or so later though!
I did the same thing 7 years ago ,broke my leg landing on the bottom rungs of the ladder , I was staring at the bottom of my foot when I came too but here's the thing ,I worked on ladders and staging my entire career and never fell and what do I do , got avalaced off my own roof after a 30 inch snow storm .
Have fun !
Ha! I put every shingle on my roof and it's a 12-12 pitch. I do think we can agree on many things other than politics, but it seems it's like that now in the US. I suppose it's impossible for both sides to like a POTUS, but it would be nice. Enjoy the weekend!
I know it , anyway have fun up there and be careful !
Thanks, I thought I was being careful when I fell off the roof!
BIG Breaking News - On the last word with Lawrence O'Donnell last night, a discussion was had about what I have always thought was the most suspicious element of the Stormy Daniels porn actress story, the $130,000 payoff by Michael Cohen, Spanky's attorney, to Stormy's Beverly Hills attorney. An apparent wire transfer for which a suspicious activity report was filed by the facilitating bank of which Michael Avenatti, Stormy's attorney, is demanding that creepster Steve Mnuchin release to the public..
WHY on Earth did Mr. Cohen use a home equity line of credit, encumber his property as he apparently said, just to pay a pron actress? It never made any sense to me from the very beginning and now the media is digging into this strange checkered aspect.
Also, as part of the huge breaking news yesterday, according to the experts including myself, big mouth loud mouth megalomaniac Spanky Trump invalidated his NDR with Stormy by confessing form 'Hot Air Balloon Blabber One', that he was unaware of the 130,000 hush money payoff to Stormy by Mr. Cohen which means the original NDR agreement falls apart. Yup, everyone knew it was just a matter of time before boring predictable Spanky opened mouth and inserted foot, his mental impairments and illnesses apparently prevent him from exercising critically important self control, I think we all realize that by now, but hey, what's the big deal? He entices a few atomic explosions here and there in the South China Sea and Japan before he's finally dragged out of our oval office kicking and screaming so what? Look on the bright side, Godzilla will make a tremendous come-back after years of dormancy right?
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