For Conservatives Only- A REVENGE Election?

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   gmwilliamsposted 3 years ago

   
   Do you feel that Joe Biden's election was a REVENGE election on the part of liberals & leftists?  Why?  Why not?

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I don't understand what a REVENGE election is: certainly the left wingers have made no secret that they want Trump out of office and that they will do almost anything short of assassination to accomplish that goal.  Or maybe even that: I doubt the SS would publicize a failed attempt. But what is a REVENGE election?

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         gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         A revenge election is what the Democrats & Liberals did.  They hated Trump & wanted him gone from the presidency.   They wanted revenge on Trump for what he "did" to them & the United States.

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            wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            If a "revenge election" is defined as what the liberals did this election then I guess that, by definition, it was a "revenge election". 
            
            But I don't think that's the answer, or reasoning, you're looking for.

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      Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Just like the election of Donald Trump rightwing revenge against Obama?

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         Live to Learnposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Lol. Considering the oddity of the original question, this is a great answer.

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      Stevennix2001posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Yes and no honestly.  I think no because what ultimately cost Trump the election was the riots and the pandemic getting out of hand honestly.  Plus, the fact that he got sick himself along with his wife and son didn't exactly do him any favors to swing voters.   Add in the fact that the media was on Biden's side the whole time, along with social media like Twitter and etc censoring anyone challenging mainstream media, and it's not surprising why Trump didn't win. 
      
      I think it was a revenge election in the sense that it seemed like a lot of Democrats that I've spoken to were mainly voting for Biden not so much because they believed in his policies, nor thought he was the best man for the job, but more or less on the mentality that we have to get rid of Trump at all cost, and then figure out the rest later.  Not saying all democrats thought like this, as I'm sure most democrats didn't, but it did seem like a significant portion did feel this way.  Heck, one person on this site even told me in another forum that they knew Biden was going senile, but planned to vote for him anyways just to get Trump out of office.   
      
      Not naming any names.  Just stating observations.  You can take what I'm saying however you want, but I'm just throwing my own two cents into this.   Regardless of the situation, I'll support whoever is officially our president in 2021; regardless if it's Trump or Biden, as we can't afford to be divided as much as we have been in recent years; especially when you consider what America is going through right now.

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         gmwilliamsposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         +1000000000

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         wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I'm not sure how riots, all in democrat controlled cities, fueled by democrat policies as Trumps efforts at helping quell them were shunted aside with disdain and hateful rhetoric, could have hurt him.  Frankly, I'm surprised that whole cities did not turn their backs on their democrat leaders and find another path into the future; the capitulation (and even encouragement) to violence and the declaration that ordinary people do not matter was that strong.
         
         But the rest I agree with.

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            PrettyPantherposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            Ah, but I'm guessing that the media you consume is exaggerating the level of unrest in these cities as well as misrepresenting who is responsible for much of it.
            
            Also, remember, the unrest was triggered by the cold-blooded murder of George Floyd by a police officer, with onlookers pleading for him to stop, with his fellow officers standing by and watching.
            
            That, my conservative friend, was the ultimate "declaration that ordinary people do not matter."
            
            And, I challenge you to provide any quote from a Democratic governor or mayor that indicates they believe ordinary people don't matter. That is nothing but your personal characterization.

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               wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               LOL  When we watch Portland have a months long streak of riots every night it doesn't need exaggeration.  When we watch governors at the front of a destructive mob, exhorting them to keep on doing it, it doesn't need exaggeration.  When we see a city allowing and encouraging the CHAZ zone, with it's accompanying violence and death, it doesn't need exaggeration.  When we watch cities demand that law enforcement leave their city in the middle of long running riots, because of politics, it doesn't need exaggeration.
               These, my friend, are the ultimate "declaration that ordinary people do not matter".  Only those with big mouths that gain media attention.
               
               Yes, my personal characterization...based on and supported by actions, not political rhetoric.  Why the people of Portland, or Seattle, didn't vote at least 90% Republican, after watching first hand the results of their liberal government in action, is beyond me.  Ignorance, TDS, stupidity with a college degree - you name it.

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                  PrettyPantherposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  Lots of false characterizations in there but I doubt it would it would matter one whit tor me to elucidate them.

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                  crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                  This is the history of our country. When the civil rights of people are consistently violated, protests usually follow. It's normal for people to become angry when they're mistreated to the point of death.
                  
                  I am sure, during the protests for voting rights and civil rights during the 60's, there was much hand-wringing from certain segments of the population, asking why the protesters couldn't just be more calm. Why all the marches? Why the violence?
                  
                  At some point, criticism of protests is justified. I'm just not sure how one determines why the merits of their fight doesn't determine one reaction or another. Ultimately, no matter the cause, the reaction from those wanting the status quo is for those wanting change to shut up, sit down, and stop complaining.

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                     PrettyPantherposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                     Exactly. Kneeling during the national anthem wasn't okay, either, even though it was peaceful and harmed no one. For some, any form of protest is wrong and un-American, even though it is an essential right under the Constitution.

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                        Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        The issue with the Right is opposition to any dissent, peaceful or otherwise.

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                           wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

                           Fair enough...if you also assume that the issue with the left is that the ends justify the means and violence, destruction and as much disturbance/interference of others as possible is acceptable.

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                        Stevennix2001posted 3 years agoin reply to this

                        I don't have a problem if people want to kneel during the national anthem in protest as that's their right as an American citizen to do so.  I just don't like it when people try to force others to protest with them as that's not right.  That's why I stopped watching the NBA because I didn't like how the media made fun of Jonathan Isaacs and vilified him just because he refused to kneel during the anthem and blew out his knee a few days after as protests shouldn't be forced upon people to participate in.   It should be a choice if anything.

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      The revenge started long before Trump was sworn in, and continued from the day he was sworn in and the mantra became "Not My President".  The revenge was driven by hate. It certainly could not be driven by this president's job performance. Hate and revenge go hand in hand. It was a winning combo.

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         crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Same exact thing happened with Obama. We put up with it for 8 years. Less than 90 days into Obama's presidency, Bill O'Reilly was saying he was a failure. I've pointed out on numerous occasions the "Rope" meme. People wanted Obama dead. So it's not surprising a similar thing happened with Trump. However, I would argue Trump was different. Not sure what the reason was to hate Obama, other than he was black. With Trump, it was how he treated women and others. Somebody like Trump shows up near me and says how he's going to grab women by the you-know-what, he's going to lose some teeth.
         
         That said, George W. Bush got the same treatment from the left, who regularly called him a Nazi. I bet they regret that kind of horrible exaggeration.
         
         This cycle will need to stop at some point. Not sure if we all have the resolve to do so.

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            Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

            It was no surprise it happened with Trump. It's a cycle. And it has gotten worse. It had to the country has been heading for this divide for many years it was not just born in the past 10 years but more like the last 20 years. And I see no good end to it.

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            PrettyPantherposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I had little respect for Bush, Jr. but would have had him back in a heartbeat over Trump. I, for one, will not forget that lesson.

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            wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            I do not recall people calling for impeachment of Obama even before he assumed office.  Where did I miss that?

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      crankaliciousposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Electing AOC would have been revenge. Electing a centrist candidate is not revenge. The question doesn't even really make sense, but I think I get the gist.

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   PrettyPantherposted 3 years ago

   I find it odd to suggest that the simple act of voting is an act of revenge. When did we start thinking this way?

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