If you are a president-elect and you have these worries. You may have been elected fraudulently. They are behaving like dictators who know they've stolen an election.
“FBI Vetting National Guard Troops in DC Over Fears of ‘Insider Attack’ or Threat From Service Members Securing Biden Inauguration
Biden’s camp is becoming increasingly paranoid after stealing the 2020 election.
In the days leading up to the Biden inaugural, the nation’s capital has been turned into an occupied military zone like Baghdad. In fact, there are more US troops in the nation’s capital today than in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan combined.
Armed US troops authorized to use lethal force are manning checkpoints to enter and leave downtown Washington, D.C. Green Zone and and Red Zone perimeters have been established. Several bridges into the city from neighboring Virginia are scheduled to be closed next week for the inaugural.
Razor wire topped fencing has been erected around the Capitol and Supreme Court, large swaths of official Washington have been blocked to vehicular traffic.”
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/0 … uguration/
Just a thought --- If we need to protect Biden being sworn in, will the troops be protecting him his entire presidency? And if a president needs this much protection from American citizens, maybe that should be food for thought.
I think it is more than Biden they are concerned about, Congress is none too popular, and hasn't been since long before Trump came along.
There is a growing percentage of Americans totally fed up with their government, and I would say that number correlates with the number of Americans that have lost jobs, homes, and have little hope.
Right now Americans are being divided by race, political affiliation, sex, if they ever get past that and decide that it is their government, not each other, that is the biggest problem, then we may again get a representative government that represents the people.
I doubt that will ever occur, but obviously those in DC are beginning to get concerned about it.
Very much agree with every word ... Watching this troop build-up in Washington is surreal. It feels like I am viewing this happening in another country, and then I see our Capitol.
The country has become a country I don't recognize.
Wait until the caravans intending to invade the country reach the border and they are greeted with open arms rather than an armed military force.
I find this so sad, I have seen several of the immigrants giving their gratitude to Biden for "opening the borders"... I guess they don't understand our politics. People lie when running for office. They will meet the same force by the Mexican troops.
"I have seen several of the immigrants giving their gratitude to Biden for "opening the borders"... "
Just curious, where did you see this and who were these immigrants?
Check with the thousands in the current caravans heading for the border. Why else would they be coming if they don't think Biden will welcome them?
All over Fox for two days. Actual short interviews. I am very interested in how Biden will handle the caravans making their way to America.
I predict he will handle them, if they occur, legally, competently, and humanely, the way our country used to do things.
I do wonder what is in his 42 years of being on the taxpayer dole leads anyone to believe Biden could handle anything competently.
He is smart enough to not declare himself the only guy who can "fix it" and the guy who knows more than anyone else about everything. And he is already surrounding himself with people because of their experience and expertise not their loyalty. That's a start.
Sounds like Mike calls his plumber for heart surgery.
Sounds like Valeant can't intellectually challenge anything Mike posts so he has to go down to the level of personal attacks. Childish, immature and pure Democrat approach to a discussion.
Not sure when left-liberals started coining the phrase "snowflake". It was actually coined to describe frail mined liberals. I guess you can use it, most of us used it until it started getting old. Have at it.
Frail minded would certainly describe a group of people unable to deal with the reality that their preferred candidate lost an election by 7 million votes, so they need to invent fraud claims to deal with their rejection by the majority of America.
I thought my comment was about liberals using the term snowflake. Oh well, I will make amends for you deflecting. To quote you --- Sorry, my humor offends you so much, Snowflake.
Some voted for a president that is so poorly thought of that he needs 26 thousand troops to protect him.
Some voted for a president that is so poorly thought of that he needs 26 thousand troops to protect him...and our Capitol from Trump supporting domestic terrorists. And I guess Trump went without a protective detail for the last four years.
26 thousand troops... Trump never hides out in a basement.
If only that were remotely true....
https://www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasre … port-says/
Come on--- that's pretty weak. Now, Biden, he hid out in his basement up to a few days ago. Hope they orient him to where the bathroom in his new surroundings. Could get messy now could it not?
Trump stood in the middle of crowds with many thousands just never needed the National Guard. Now, Joe, we have our own Kim Jong-un.
Sharlee, the basement lie is silly and was invented by the con man who was fired by the voters who didn't buy his childish nonsense.
And the Kim Jong-Un reference is extra embarrassing given your own idol's professed love for him.
And, yes, your idol behaved at his inauguration similarly to previous presidents, so nothing special there. This one is different, though, because of your fallen idol and his lawless, angry mob who brought guns, zip ties, a noose, and bombs to the Capitol while shouting for Pence and Pelosi's heads.
This whole post is beneath you, though highly entertaining in a sad sorta way, as it shows you are still under the spell of your idol's propaganda and obviously quite butthurt that Biden is now president.
I get it. Reality sucks for you Trumpers right now. I don't expect you to keep it real since you've followed the ultimate liar for four years, but, geez, this one was bad.
And I care what you think... Yeah --- What is sad to me is you don't in any respect accept other's views, and feel you have the right to be rude. AS always you did not comprehend the point or context of my comment. It was very clear, and I am tired of needing to provide you with detailed accounts of my comments. But here we go again --- You grab a line, sometimes two, you don't look at what the rest of the comment infers. or what I am replying to. You just totally read in all kinds of crazy.
We were discussing my view that Biden needs troops/protection from a crowd. Hence, Trump was never fearful to stand out in crowds. I used Kim to insinuate we now have a president that needs protection that mirrors Kims troop that follows him around. Nothing about anyone idolizing anyone. All about a leader that needs forces to protect them. No more no less.
"Trump stood in the middle of crowds with many thousands just never needed the National Guard. Now, Joe, we have our own Kim Jong-un."
You sound so ridiculous it's hard to even be polite and try to respond to your comment. Tossing around word ones again that are meant to bait --- "under the spell of your idol's propaganda", "your fallen idol,". Keep your nasty comments to yourself. I am above getting in the mud with anyone that is so ill-equipped to communicate.
Your comments speak for themselves. Actually, this particular comment is a great example of what I mean when I coin "all kinds of crazy". I have moved on, maybe you should too...
You always say I didn't understand your comment when I counter it. I fully understood it, but felt it was devoid of reality and I delineated why. You get offended when you are called out for spouting your idol's silly inventions like Biden hiding in a basement. And, I directly addressed the subject of why this inauguration is different and required more protection.
You don't think your post lying about Biden hiding in a basement, trying to characterize him as fearful, and comparing him to Kim Jong-IUn is "getting in the mud"?
I think your post was baiting and now you're all indignant that I responded in kind. You are not innocent here.
Edit: And I didn't even reference your high-brow, intellectual inference about Biden's ability to make it to the bathroom. lol
As I said you jump in a conversation midstream you don't read, you don't consider the tone of the conversation or the two peo0le that are communicating. Val and I go at each other, pretty good, that's what we do. We have an ongoing rapport. You do understand individuals communicate differently? Develop a one on one, and have different ways of communicating?
I will be honest, I don't feel you communicate well. You don't seem to decipher funny from sarcasm... I am not offended at all. I take your comments in stride. No indignance here. Just hope to point out how self superior you seem when offering a view. I gave back what I got. Get accustomed to it. The bathroom thing was a sarcastic quip. Get over yourself.
Oh my goodness, I don't constantly complain like you do about how someone responds to me and you tell me to get over myself. lol
By the way, Biden and Harris are strolling down Pennsylvania Avenue as I type this and he has gone over to speak to people in the crowd a few times. I guess he forgot you said he was cowering in the basement.
As for my entering a conversation, it's a public internet forum and I didn't know you had exclusive conversation clubs here. And I'm "elitist"! Lol
Not complaining just explaining. I do dislike my comments being misconstrued. Sort of like fake news ---- And you must be kidding that you don't coming back at others if you feel your comment was misunderstood. I hope others will pipe in here...
Sorry, I never would refer to you as an elitist. I will be truthful in my opinion you are far from an elitist. Yes, I have questioned why you jump into a conversation --- I said you jump in a conversation midstream you don't read, you don't consider the tone of the conversation, or the two people that are communicating, and you don't seem to decipher funny from sarcasm.
This is most certainly a public forum and yes you have the right to comment until your heart is content.
As I said so funny how you just read into a comment, and totally change up the true context. I did not in any respect question your right to comment on the forum. I have pointed out on occasion we nothing in common, and yes questioned why you respond to my comments due to that fact. But never questioned your right to post.
Here is what I stated -- I take your comments in stride. No indignance here. Just hope to point out how self superior you seem when offering a view. I gave back what I got. Get accustomed to it. The bathroom thing was a sarcastic quip. Get over yourself.
And in regard to Biden taking a walk --- I would suppose with 26 thousand troops in place he can walk anywhere they please. Hopefully, he does not require more secret service than other presidents have required. We have to pay for the problem of him being so disliked. And I thought no one could ever be more disliked than Trump.
Another long diatribe with insults.
Let's get back to the subject. Let's keep it simple.
Do you really believe the security at the inauguration was over done, given the recent violent insurrection at the Capitol and the ongoing threats from right-wing extremists?
Sounds like she's more proud of the fact that Trump supporters were responsible for wasting all those government resources on security.
Well, you know, she does think there needs to be an investigation because, apparently, the conclusions of all those investigatory, legal, and and judicial bodies cannot be believed. But Rudy and that guy who is no longer relevant, they're so credible.
To be honest, not interested in conversing with you. Sorry about that. Valeant is great at back and forth. Have at it.
Do you really think the troop, (National Guard), protection was because Pres. Biden is so disliked?
Could you consider that it is probably because of the Jan. 6th assault and the online chatter from groups that support that action?
Do you really not think the actions of the Capital Hill invaders and the militia-type groups that support such action are the cause for the massive inauguration changes and protection protocols?
I can respect contrary opinions Sharlee, but I can not support wilful mischaracterization. In my opinion, the troop presence had nothing to do with folks disliking Pres. Biden, but everything to do with the fear of action from those liking Pres. Trump.
I am still a Conservative. I haven't changed my stripes to become a 'Liberal', but comments such as yours are surely going to portray my comments to show that I have become a "snowflake."
If we are going to be talking about snowflakes, then we are going to be talking about conservatives that can't accept reality. The reality that the Capital Hill invasion and intelligence sources that found "chatter' from such folks as supported the invasion to be a credible threat.
"Do you really think the troop, (National Guard), protection was because Pres. Biden is so disliked?" Yes. The militia-type group sees the Biden Government as the threat. Their cause would be to overthrow it. I would be interested in what you feel their cause is?
"Could you consider that it is probably because of the Jan. 6th assault and the online chatter from groups that support that action?" Not sure I understand your question. Again what do you think the purpose of the Jan 6th riot? These citizens feel Biden in some respect stole the election. You have two factors. Thugs that have a cause to overthrow the Government Last I knew the President is the head of the Government. And then you have some trump supporters feel there was voter fraud.
"Do you really not think the actions of the Capital Hill invaders and the militia-type groups that support such action are the cause for the massive inauguration changes and protection protocols?" Yes. Why the hell else would they deploy 26 thousand troops. Do you have another plausible reason why this would have been needed? Better yet have you ever witnessed this kind of troop build-up at any other inaugural?
"I can respect contrary opinions Sharlee, but I can not support wilful mischaracterization. In my opinion, the troop presence had nothing to do with folks disliking Pres. Biden, but everything to do with the fear of action from those liking Pres. Trump."
We have differing opinions in regard to why the troops were deployed. It would appear you are willing to say thugs were willing to riot, and try to disrupt an inauguration because they like Trump. I think we have a two-bladed knife yes they like trump, and in turn, truly did like Biden due to feeling he stoled the election with widespread voter fraud. Keep in mind we have two kinds of supporters. One peaceful, one ready to use violence and weapons.
AND YES --- "The reality that the Capital Hill invasion and intelligence sources that found "chatter' from such folks as supported the invasion to be a credible threat."
And you feel these American citizens that were perhaps planning to attack as Biden was being sworn in like him? Will one as a rule attack someone they like? Realistically Biden has a large group of people that do not like him. These people apparently are very dangerous. It is most apparent Biden will be under heavy protection like no other president in history.
In regard to my statement --- "I would suppose with 26 thousand troops in place he can walk anywhere they please. Hopefully, he does not require more secret service than other presidents have required. We have to pay for the problem of him being so disliked. And I thought no one could ever be more disliked than Trump."
You entered into a very long conversation that was turning argumentive. My statement was sarcastic and it was meant to be. It sickened me that Biden and Harris had the audacity to take a walk, a walk that was protected by thousands of troops. Seems a bit like a country such as North Korea, not America.
It is unfortunate but we have an element at this point that is threatening violence.
I hope you are not insinuating I support any fragment that promotes violence. I have said over and over I do not. But realistically I am not about to for a minute to believe they are out there. And it is more than apparent they have a cause. Do they like Biden, you tell me? The majority of American's that supported Trump more likely may not care for Biden but certainly would not wish him harm. Some will move on, some won't.
Maybe we are just having a 'context' misunderstanding Sharlee, but I will jump to your last point first; No I do not think, and did not intend to insinuate, that you support the violence of the Capital Hill invaders or the Trump supporters that are willing to be violent.
Then, when you write that people dislike Joe Biden so much, (as in enough to incite violence), I took your comment to mean just what it said—they dislike the man. I don't think that is accurate. I think they, (again, we are talking about the folks willing to use violence), dislike the government that they think stole the election from them. They didn't storm the Capital looking for Biden, they were after Pence and Pelosi, et al.
Using the logic of your explanation the troops can be said to be there to protect those folks as much as to protect Biden. That is why I feel your comment is a mischaracterization of why the troops were needed at the inauguration. Biden or Harris may have been the primary targets if violence had occurred, but that would have only been because they represent hje government that the violent actors "dislike."
The characterization of your comment paints Biden as being so bad and so disliked that he alone is the reason the protection was needed. I don't think that is accurate. And I don't think separating Biden the man from the government he now represents is splitting hairs either.
Your original comment may have intended to say the troops were needed because so many violence-threatening people dislike what he represents, but it read to me as you saying it was because they dislike the man.
As for your question, no, I have never seen an inauguration like this one, but neither do I remember ever having such demonstrated and credible threats hanging over one.
It is apparent you disliked me using the word dislike in regard to what some may feel about Biden, and the possibility he is a target. I purposely used the word dislike for a purpose hoping those that read my comment would realize my context. To me, the word dislike shows the feeling of distaste or aversion; antipathy. I could understand your concern if I perhaps used a word like hate. I consider Biden as head of our Government, and yes IMO this makes him a target along with pretty much anyone that represents our Government.
At the point, I made that comment the Jan 6th attack was behind us. I was referring to what is ahead in regards to what threat these thugs could pose. Again it well appears due to what the FBI has said American groups were planning some violence the days leading up to, and the day of the inauguration. I must assume these threats were against our Government.
"Your original comment may have intended to say the troops were needed because so many violence-threatening people dislike what he represents, but it read to me as you saying it was because they dislike the man."
Perhaps you could look at my original opinion as a mischaracterization. Ultimately I feel Biden is disliked by many, some very well consider him the head of a Government they hope to overthrow. There is no getting around that in my view.
On Jan 6th, it has been reported the thugs were concentrating on doing harm to VP Pence, and Pelosi. In my view the day of the inauguration Biden /Harris would have been the number one target. The rest that would have been hurt would have been casualties of battle.
Here is y origenal comment --
And in regard to Biden taking a walk --- I would suppose with 26 thousand troops in place he can walk anywhere they please. Hopefully, he does not require more secret service than other presidents have required. We have to pay for the problem of him being so disliked. And I thought no one could ever be more disliked than Trump.
I think the comment is very clear, and yes does state Biden is disliked, In my view, he is disliked by many, that dislike varies, and are individual. I don't go into details either way why he is disliked. I just sought to show a concern that he needed troops the day he was sworn in and may need them for the duration of his term. Which he most likely will, hopefully not... Hopefully, the threat will end, and people move on.
I do understand where you are coming from. We just seem to disagree about the reasoning of what the militant groups hope to accomplish, and possibly that they look at Biden as the head of the Government they at this point really are unhappy with and may have him as a target. These citizens don't like the new Government, they feel the election was rigged, and oh yes think Biden was well aware of what they perceive as voter fraud. This is my opinion.
Thank you. I haven't been online here for a long time, just dropped in. I see not much has changed, lol. Those people wanted to hurt our Representatives and Senators. Worse yet, they were trying to steal the box with the Electoral votes in it to change or hide them. While I disagree with a lot of this lying that people insist on believing, I certainly wouldn't have wanted to see anyone hang Mike Pence, as little as I like him. I know we have to listen to others and stop talking so much. But it's hard when Trump fed the public lies for so long. The way he played down the pandemic is disgusting. But Jared said, "It's mostly people in Blue states, we don't care." What a lovely family. Trump lost, and was too childish to attend the Inauguration after he incited his followers to riot.
No more messy than when Trump poops himself when they serve him multiple warrants this week now that he's no longer shielded by the office.
Is this one of those examples of Trump standing in the crowds of thousands with no National Guard? It's hard to keep track. At least Biden is using the National Guard against domestic terrorists and not peaceful protesters.
Yes, I remember that notorious walk........ Just does not appear to be thousand of National guard available
And yes, he is using the NG against citizens that attacked the Capitol due to the feeling he stoled the election. Never thought I would see our guard protecting an incoming president against American citizens.
We must wait and see if multiple warrants come down this week.
not sure Trump will poop himself, one never knows when a president might need depends. However, today Old Biden Joe needed his wife to redirect physically and most likely reorient him to time and place. Just not good for the first day on the job.
And not sure where you got that photograph, but it does not appear to be from yesterday or today as Joe wasn't wearing that tie, had a coat on since it's winter, and didn't meet with reporters when he got off the plane. He met with staff, then hopped into an SUV and then drove off. So try selling your false narrative somewhere else.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?508104-1/ … se-andrews
Frontpage AOL story -- What Biden should do about Trump
Is that you trying to own up to fabricating a post?
It is right on the front page of AOL been there all day. it is photo number 34 of 80 Story Frontpage AOL story -- Joe Biden faces a difficult decision when it comes to Donald Trump.
And this is your quote: 'However, today Old Biden Joe needed his wife to redirect physically.'
With a little research, or common sense since it's winter and Biden's outdoors with no jacket, you could have understood that the photo in your AOL headline was not from today.
And even more fabricated was her intent in said photo. Biden could just as easily be chatting with the press and she is letting him know they need to go. It'd be if I looked at the below photo and claimed that Trump's repressed arthrogryposis, a congenital condition affecting the joints, finally showed itself.
Got to say that's an oldie but goodie. Trump being Trump and unfortunately, the photo I posted of Biden is Biden truly being Biden --- somewhat confused.
In regard to the photo, I posted take it up with AOL. Like I said right there big as life for all to see. I have no idea when the photo was taken or do I care. Do you think dementia goes away?
A man conversing with the press, one who is known to ramble, getting politely interrupted, and you fabricate dementia from that image. And it seems you're going to just continue to argue that you didn't claim that photo was taken today, on the day Biden becomes President.
I just love that photo... And so pleased to see Biden has a wife that will keep a close eye on him. And yes he is known to ramble on, and on and on...Like when he called a woman a “lying dog-faced pony soldier”. He will be entertaining. Wonder why AOL would even post that photo? Seems IB found it to be taken in Oct. Makes me wonder if he has progressed further into dementia. Scary stuff.
I am turning away from this conversation, I hear the sound of the herd approaching. Don't intend to get banned. You all have fun.
So do we, it's nice to see a first lady who isn't disgusted by contact with her husband. And I'll take it you didn't watch the video IB posted yet that shows exactly why she stepped in. Biden was having trouble hearing reporter questions, and was getting inside six feet of safe space to hear them when she pulled him back to a slightly safer distance out of concern for the virus. Again, nice to see leaders following CDC guidelines for a change.
No, I did not watch IB's video I will leave that to whoever is interested. You should ask IB to notify AOL that the photo was taken a bit ago. Not cool that they should post it on Joe's inaugural day. Almost seems like fake news to me. I mean it sure grabbed my eye. And it is all over social media. Not really fair is it. Fake news such as that photo can be taken out of context. Hey, it pulled me in. Kudo's to IB now all she needs to do is stop millions from viewing that fake news on the front page of AOL, and spreading it all over social media. I just put it on my Facebook. This kind of fake news piles up and after a while, so many see it as factual. And then soon someone starts a huge list of all the so-called blunders, and then a book -- and then and then..........
Actually, many of us know that news agencies use stock photos for stories. Many of us here use them for our hubs. We don't go out and take them the day of. When I publish my stories for work, I'll try and use a photo for the event, but if the photographer doesn't get a quality option, I'll use one from the recent past instead. That's pretty standard. I'll concede that I did not see a caption on the photo AOL used identifying when it was taken.
But at the same time, at what point do you start to wonder how you're being manipulated by those on your social media pages who are misconstruing the image to undermine Biden on day one of his term? And then, in turn, helping to embarrass you when you post it here with a completely fabricated timeframe and context.
Sorry, you need to take it up with AOL. Was not me that picked a photo that million would view that pretty much indicates Biden had to be guided by his wife. And boy are you correct that they could have had hundreds of other photo's to stick up on the front page. Makes one really wonder. This feels like what comes around goes around.
Sorry, it was you that misconstrued what was actually taking place in the image. There are plenty of other plausible explanations to explain what you see in that image. You, and your ilk, chose the one that fits your warped narrative without researching what was actually taking place. And you were too unobservant to notice that it wasn't taken today - which I feel was very obvious based on current weather and other photos of Biden in DC during last night's ceremonies.
It wasn't AOL that posted those inaccuracies to this site. That was all you, snowflake.
Frontpage AOL today ... Today, yesterday, what the heck does that matter? You will need to scroll through the front page photos.
One can see the fear in Jill's eyes, she has her job cut out for her. Oh My..
Your humor does not offend me. Your inability to grasp the concept of humor does make me laugh. Joke.
No he's not. He's surrounding himself with people because of their race, sexual identity or willingness to do the Democrat illegal work. NOT impressed with his picks. NO, Biden will be a disaster and it's just a matter of time.
Lol, I don't see it that way, but I guess it's still marginally better than appointing your family and white supremacists.
He is continuing the legacy of forgetting veterans. The VA was horrible under obama. There is no disputing it. Under President Donald Trump in improved 1,000 percent. Now, fraudulently elected Biden appointed someone to head the VA who is not even a vet. One of the first thing he wants to do is cut costs. He didn't say what that means. It's like having a Methodist bishop being made ahead of the Catholic church. It makes no sense. So, yeah, under the fraudulently elected one, I expect things to get worse for us vets. I hope the don't go back to the way things were under obama.
I did tons of research on Biden to have a fair look at his history in Wahington, and his character. So, I feel confident in sharing your opinion. I think the party is setting him up with a cabinet that will run the show.
"lost jobs, homes, and have little hope."
It would be interesting to analyze those who have been arrested so far to see if they meet your description of those who are totally fed up with the government. Given how many travelled from other states to get there, I would guess very few.
It's what the dems have always wanted. A reason to seize power and strip away civil liberties.
Pelosi must be positively giddy.
I feel incredibly sorry for Kind Joe.
If he becomes a tyrant he will not be loved
- at all
- by anyone
- except those handlers of his. (And heaven help him if he gets too hot to handle.
We might end up calling him Potato Joe.)
- stay cool, Joe!
Only a bunch of Trumpers could blame law enforcement for properly and competently doing their jobs by protecting the new President after the Capitol was overrun by armed MAGA insurrectionists.
They (MAGA insurrectionists) were atypical suspicious types and were fringe types like Antifa ...
I actually think they WERE Antifa.
Why are you asking ne? Are you not capable of reading about who has been arrested?
It's so sad that The People's House has been attacked in the first time since the Civil War. At that time, there were also unpatriotic people who decided they didn't want to be part of this country. All the people who attacked the House and Senate deserve to be punished. Trump is fond of throwing around the word "treason." Even Mike Pence had the sense to call in the National Guard.
Two facts were very clear before this election in 2020. Many Covid deniers, mostly Republicans, would go to the polls without masks to vote and risk spreading the virus. Most Democrats I know, myself included, voted by mail, as I am in a high risk group.
Trump began his attack on how "illegal" mail in votes were early this year, as Republicans can't win without cheating anyway (districting, voter suppression). So we saw the tally of machine counted votes first on Election Night, and it looked like Trump had a chance. Many states never did a mail in vote before, and it took until Saturday to get them all added in. When Biden won PA, the polling places were televised.
It astounds me how people don't want to face the truth. Anyone who has watched Trump these last five years and can't see how mentally unstable he is just confounds me. Plus 60 cases of "voter fraud" were dismissed by the courts. Anyway, we have less than 48 hours to go, Trump faces charges in the Southern District of NY for his illegal activities in his own organization, and it's been nice to "see" you.
Joe Biden has just stepped into trump's shoes. He will move into the White House with millions once again shouting "not my president". But over the last four years we are now at a point it appears citizens will now become violent to remove him.
This seems to be where we are at. An eye for an eye. Right or wrong, that's where we are at. So where from here? Do we just continue to blame? How has that worked out?
Yep! Enjoy one more normal, typical day!
After Wed., all bets are OFF!
U will C
Is this another threat by R's who can't face the truth? Trump lost. Badly. D's even won the Senate in a run off in GA and turned it into a blue state. People are tired of the hatred and division Trump spews.
People will not tolerate the fall of America
You really believe with Biden's lackluster campaign that he got more votes than obama in 2009? Don't you wonder why the battle ground states were willing to violate the constitution to pass election laws? Ever wonder why there has been no move for an investigation? IF there is nothing, it would go a long way to eliminating the beliefs the election was fraudulent. Again, the Democrats fear such an investigation because they fear the truth. Why else would they be against such a thing?
Love it when you lie so openly, claiming they violated the Constitution when the courts in their states ruled differently, and the Supreme Court refused to hear any of the challenges to those decisions.
And still waiting for some conspiracy theorist to take into account the fact that Trump won Georgia in 2016 by just 200,000 votes and then Democrats registered over 1 million new voters between 2016 and 2020.
With 44% of Biden voters actually being anti-Trump voters, Biden's 'lackluster' campaign as you called it, seemed like a genius move. Who knew people would agree that not bringing people together, maskless, in large crowds during a pandemic would show the right kind of leadership that a country had been craving?
Considering Trump won a single case out of 65 in the courts, there seems to have been plenty of investigations that you just choose to continue to ignore with these threads. But you go ahead and live in your alternate reality, I'm sure it's healthy.
Then a full-fledged investigation will set me right. Complete with testimony in front of Congress combined with a final report. The SCOTUS didn't rule if the stated had or had not violated the Constitution. It would be a difficult charge to deny based on the facts. Yes, they did pass elections laws beyond the Constitutional allotted time and bypassed their state legislatures when passing election laws. VERY clearly a violation of the US Constitution. The reason is...what was the motivation to violate the Constitution?
"what was the motivation to violate the Constitution?"
You're kidding, right? Is there any doubt whatsoever what the motivation was?
Incredibly sad, facts, truth, and science don't matter. And QAnon? Those conspiracy theories have been circulating for over half a century now.
What do you mean by that? You're the second Trumper on here saying things that sound like threats.
I am not threatening. I am revealing from my crystal ball.
Justice will prevail. You will see.
I am not predicting war. I am revealing we ARE at W A R .
and it will become more and more obvious.
I believe the Democrats have no idea exactly what they've done. You CANNOT silence over 70 million people. That is larger than the population of Canada and many other countries. In our system, it must be a government made up of the people, by the people and for the people. Not just for the Democrats.
I expect push back in ways they never imagined. These are not college or high school kids. There are many, many veterans, pilots and working class Americans. If they don't do something to appease them, it will not end well.
It is more than 70 million. Lots of adults didn't vote. More than is revealed by the turnout, since (whether the left chooses to accept it,or not) there were a percentage of b.s. votes not cast by the names on those absentee ballots. I would bet the reason they didn't is not apathy, but a feeling of hopelessness that government is beyond reform.
Given hope of real and positive change I believe they would stand up for their voices to be heard.
The good news is that the majority will be on the side of saving the nation from the designs of the One-Staters, (once it becomes obvious what is happening.)
How do you save a man from an approaching shark?
Helicopters. drones, boats, planes, jets and lawyers.
Swift and timely action.
Hopefully, with no bloodshed.
Damn. Targeting a clear minority seems bad but ghosts are usually depicted as white specters.
Makes perfect sense now.
I tell the right winger in no uncertain terms to TAKE A HIKE.
You ve have lost and any threat to the democratic process that have been proven time and again to be in perfect order despite your silly suspicions and QAnon crap will be dealt with severely, because the other 80 million the majority of the electorate will not have it.
The Right continues in their sillyness to shroud a racist attitude and intent throughout this entire matter, but such as "The Emperor's New Clothes", your true intentions are quite transparent. That is what ticks me off the most, your naivety in thinking that WE can't see right through you.
I invite the Biden administration and the 21,000 National Guard there to smash the troublesome right winger under foot as one would do an insect if they so much attempt another January 6th performance again.
You lost this time, so, Get Over It!!!!!
I've had it with them, too. It seems they have adopted not only their idol's worst lies but also his most despicable tactics. Not surprising, I suppose, when you spend four years defending and admiring a lying con man.
I really don't care if the Right, their associates and allies protest peacefully because that was the Left's response to Trump, but I will consider anything beyond that as attempts at insurrection, sedition and treason and it won't play well.
Yep, me too. I want them to lawfully protest so we can see exactly who is unable to discern truth from propaganda.
PrettyPanther ---"Yep, me too. I want them to lawfully protest so we can see exactly who is unable to discern truth from propaganda."
What are you going for here? It would seem you would hope for rallies to pick out trouble makers. Do you think this could lead to needless people being hurt, as it did last Summer? Please explain your thought.
I tell the left in no uncertain terms you got a president and vice president fraudulently elected. You on the left need to deal with THAT.
Prove me and tens of millions of other Americans wrong. Have a full-fledged federal investigation. Just like the Russian hoax/collusion delusion.
Unless...you're afraid of what an investigation would discover.
I believe that is the problem with the left. You are afraid the truth will come out. It's NOT going away. You're going to have to deal with it.
When the election officials, recounts, courts, DOJ and FBI confirmed the election results - we on the left already believe we have proved you and the tens of millions wrong. When all the right wing media recanted their false claims about the voter machines when threatened with lawsuits, we saw it proven again.
What we cannot do is make you accept those conclusions. That's your choice. And if you don't, so be it. We'll just look at you like every other tinfoil hat-wearing lunatic we see, with sadness.
It being as the courts, the DOJ and the FBI never did seriously investigate the allegations, you can hardly say that they "confirmed" anything. Nor does counting the same ballots that were changed by ballot counters address the possible fraud reported, and neither does counting ballots sent in after the legal date.
So how, again, was anything "confirmed"? Because the "right wing media recanted their false claims", again without investigating them with the power of the federal govt. behind them?
We cannot make you investigate the allegations, but we CAN call you on the false claim that it has all been thoroughly investigated and found legit.
Oh? So the FBI and DOJ just stated they found no systemic fraud without doing any investigating? That's your belief? I guess you know more than Bill Barr, who confirmed they did investigations along with the FBI. I'd say you are the one making false claims.
The courts, when presented with 'evidence,' dismissed that evidence as speculative and not proof of any fraud.
Care to post your evidence of the two claims you made. You always want to see proof before believing a claim - let's see yours.
And we can add McConnell to the list of people stating Trump was lying about the election fraud: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trumps-trial … 50719.html
Care to post a link to a court that held a trial, filed by Rudi or direct associate, that listened to witnesses?
This took me all of two minutes to find...
At a hearing in the Arizona Sharpie case on Thursday, too, it was difficult to discern exactly what wrongdoing the Trump side believed had occurred. “This is not about fraud,” Kory Langhofer, a local attorney for the Trump campaign, told a judge. The lawsuit was premised, in part, on the idea that bleeding Sharpies and poll worker error had cost a slew of Trump supporters their vote. Sworn witness affidavits filed with the lawsuit included the sentence, “I believe my vote for Donald J. Trump and Michael Pence was not counted.”
Under cross-examination, however, the witnesses told a different story. The refrain became familiar by the end of the six-hour hearing. A lawyer for the Arizona Democratic Party: “Do you have any reason to believe that your vote wasn’t counted?” Trump campaign witness: “No.”
A second instance of witness testimony being refuted:
Even when the Trump side uncovered apparent irregularities, they tended to fizzle under closer scrutiny. A lawyer representing two Republican poll observers at Wednesday’s hearing in Detroit submitted the sworn affidavits of several witnesses who attested to what they believed to be fraud at Detroit’s main canvassing site. Kenny, the judge, summarized the pattern alleged by the claims as follows: “This is what I saw, with the conclusion being this must be representative of fraudulent behavior.” For example, workers at the convention center never checked the signatures on mail-in ballots, some witnesses alleged, which proved, as the president and his surrogates had been saying for months, that voting by mail was ripe for fraud. Others saw workers enter some voters’ birth dates as Jan. 1, 1900. The dead, they concluded, were voting in Detroit.
The city countered. You may have seen what you claim you saw, but the conclusion that you draw is incorrect, asserted Chris Thomas, a longtime state elections director who had come out of retirement this year to help Detroit run its election, in written testimony. The mail-in ballot signatures were checked at a different location, before the ballots arrived at the convention center. And the 1900 date was a placeholder. Workers counting mail-in ballots lacked access to voter birth dates, which the computerized tabulation system required them to enter, so they entered Jan. 1, 1900.
How's that post with all your proof of your ridiculous claims coming along? I noticed you left that part out of your last post.
It is funny that when Hillary Clinton lost in 2016, she did not ask for this "investigation" under more pressing circumstances where she had won the popular vote but lost toTrump in the Electoral College over the smallest of margins. She obviously was the "adult" in the room. Just as Al Gore was in 2000. Not so with the Rightwinger.
The investigation would only discover that African American voters were primarily responsible to giving the boot to your Emperor, but under circumstances that were completely natural and expected. I expect that the hoodlums on the Right will take this out on them in ways yet to be determined.
Is it so unusual to expect states that have been in the blue column, for which Trump won barely as an aberration to not as easily return this column? Many of the Capitol protesters were running around with the Confederate Banner, so I and they have nothing in common.
Georgia and Arizona are currently Red states, but with the demographic changes that are in play, whether they return to that remains to be seen. I am predicting the same fate for Texas within the decade.
Two U.S. Army National Guard members are being removed from the security mission to secure Joe Biden’s presidential inauguration. A U.S. Army official and a senior U.S. intelligence official say the two National Guard members have been found to have ties to fringe right group militias.
Of the two who were removed for extremist links, one had a digital profile that connected him/her with extremist groups, the other made comments after arriving in D.C. which were reported by soldiers in his/her unit.
Where is the defund the police and walls don't work crowd? What a bunch of hypocrites.
So it's Biden's fault and not all those domestic terrorists threatening him? And I think Biden, who is known to be frugal, will be more than willing to compare his secret service bills to the Trump family any day.
The Mughal empire collapsed after Bahadur Shah took over from Aurangzeb. I have a gut feeling that Joe Biden is going to be the Bahadur Shah of America.
I'm having trouble with the dichotomy that on one hand, Biden is a dementia sufferer in the eyes on the right. On their other hand, he is this evil mastermind that just orchestrated the greatest multi-state election fraud in American history, all from his basement.
Could it just be that neither reality is accurate?
Not sure I picked anything up here on the forum that refers to Biden's evil mastermind that just orchestrated the greatest multi-state election fraud in American history, all from his basement. Please offer a comment that gives a bit of proof to that statement. I have pointed out on many occasions that I feel he has dementia, cognitive problems. You ask could neither reality is accurate.
I think the basement thing is mostly used as a sarcastic thought. I have in all my blogging run across a comment that claimed Biden masterminded voter fraud. I have read comments where some feel It could be conceivable he may have known about voter fraud being perpetrated. It's a wide world people have different views, for different reasons.
So, you have a point there is a deep contrast due to individual thoughts about Joe's cognitive skills.
Sharlee, Valeant has a point about Biden being a mastermind. I believe there are people behind him and controlling him.
I don't think he could mastermind anything. I feel he is being coached at every step. It will be interesting to see how this way of covering works out. I do think after looking at his past he blends in relies on others, goes whichever way the wind blows. I will be honest he just has very few accomplishments, but he has some way held on in Washington for 40 years. Just blending in.
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