Do The Democrats Want Police Reform Or No Police?

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   Sharlee01posted 3 years ago

   
   Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib calls for the end of US policing she says is 'intentionally racist'.
   
   First, let's consider why Taib made came to her conclusion that America just does not need law enforcement.   Her out-spoken view came after a Police officer shot and killed a black man by the name of  Daunte Wright while attempting to arrest him for an outstanding warrant. He was pulled over for having expired tags on his car and it was ascertained to have an outstanding warrant for his arrest.
   
   The officer who shot Mr. Wright was described as a senior member of the force. The  Released body camera footage shows the officer yelling "Taser," three times. The officer claims the shooting was "accidental. Claiming while struggling with Wright meant to grab a Taser but instead grabbed her gun, and fired. Wright then drove off, crashed, his car, and died. The incident is being investigated, and the 25-year veteran officer is on leave.
   
   Squad member and progressive Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib alleged in a Twitter post on Monday night that the death of Daunte Wright "wasn’t an accident" as she appeared to call for an end of policing.
   
   Tlaib indicated in a tweet that the police system should be ended because it could not be reformed as it is "inherently [and] intentionally racist." The progressive lawmaker also appeared to equate policing with "government-funded murder."
   
   The Tweet ---  It wasn't an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist.
   
   Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence. I am done with those who condone government-funded murder.
   
   No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed.
   7:05 PM · Apr 12, 2021
   
   Before any investigation, it appears Tlaib has pretty much come to the conclusion the officer is guilty, and that the incident was a "murder", and that we just do not have a need for law enforcement at all.
   
   I have no respect for this form of thinking. I find Tlaib nothing but a pot-stirrer always attempting to use race as her spoon.
   
   So questions --- Do you hope to see the police or law enforcement abolished as this dizzy nut job?
   
   Do you feel Democrats in Washington frequently use race to politic at the expense of minorities?
   
   Do you feel Tlaib should have waited before calling Mr. Wright's insinuating Mr. Wright's death was murder?  "Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence. I am done with those who condone government-funded murder. "
   
   Come on people, where the hell has common sense gone. Is this the kind of representation we want in Government?

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Just an opinion, a gut feeling, but I don't see where many Democrats want to do away with police.  Yes, many have become convinced that the police are all "out to get them" (or at least those with darker skin) and want "reform" as a consequence, but never to do away with police.
      
      Unfortunately, the "reform" being demanded isn't much different than simply doing away with police, for it would hamstring police, and put them into such danger, that few would wish to be a cop and fewer still could be one effectively.

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      Credence2posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      Unlike the Floyd case, I will concede that while the cop may be held accountabl for confusing her taser with her handgun, there was probable cause for the stop, expired registration (plates) with further investigation revealing that there was a warrant out Mr. Wright's arrest. He resisted arrest. So, there is more involved to his being stopped beyond air freshener on his rear view mirror.
      
      I believe that urban police departments need reform and retraining and that any breach in department policy by an officer removes any guarantee of immunity for their actions. I insist on body cams operating at all times while on duty.
      
      It is not a good idea to disband  police departments.

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         Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         I also feel we need some types of reform, mostly in training. I don't imagine many young people will choose law enforcement as careers at this point.
         
         What really pissed me off was Tlaib shooting off her mouth calling the incident racist before she really knew anything about the incident that left a young man dead. She tweeted " It wasn't an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist."
         
         We just do not need this type of representative in Congress.

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      
      Kim Potter the police officer that shot Daunte Wright resigned after working on the force for 26 years. Stating --- “best interest” of the department and community that she resign “immediately”. She had an outstanding career in the department.
      ttps://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/04/13/heres-what-we-know-about-kim-potter-the-minnesota-officer-who-shot-daunte-wright/?sh=796615cb7fd2
      
      Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib  ---  " It wasn't an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist."
      
      There are two victims in this horrific shooting. One a dead young man, the other a woman that was just perhaps doing her job, and made a mistake, and is being investigated. But labeled a racist by Michigan Democrat Rashida Tlaib.

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   MG Singhposted 3 years ago

   I frankly do not buy her story that she was mistaken between the teaser and the gun. A person who has handled weapons for 26 years can't commit such mistakes; I know because I've handled guns for 25 years.

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      You "know" that someone with experience, making a split second decision while adrenaline and stress is peaking due to a potential life threat, can't make a mistake?  Because you've handled guns for 25 years?
      
      I've been around guns for over 50 years, but can certainly imagine such an error.  Might even make it myself in such a situation - don't know as I've never been there.

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         Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

         This officer is being railroaded for doing her job. She has an excellent 26-year record, and she knew dam well the body cam was on. My common sense tells me it was an accident.   I am dam sick of this crap. Hopefully, more officers will slow roll, and stay safe.   Wright choked and rob a black woman at gunpoint.   She called the cops. and this guy had a warrant out on him.   Maybe she should have handled her situation with BLM.  Over this BS.

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            wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            There is zero doubt that it was an accident.  Maybe preventable, maybe not - the guy was diving back into his car (to get a gun?).
            
            But it best that she resigned.  Not her boss - that was a great symbol that the cops there have no support behind them, and was deserting his duty to boot.

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               Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               Ya know, I have not found any statement from her boss. Almost makes me wonder if he was not just so discussed with the BS that he just was not going to be part of it any longer. His few words before he resigned seem to indicate he was resigning to support his officer. I did read he left immediately without a few hour's notice. I give him credit for walking out...
               
               Police Chief Tim Gannon, who on Monday released the body camera footage and characterized the shooting as an "accidental discharge,"
               "As you can hear, the officer, while struggling with Mr. Wright yells ‘Taser! Taser!’ several times. That is part of the officer’s training prior to deploying a Taser, which is a less-lethal device," Gannon said. "As I watch the video and listen to the officer’s commands, it is my belief that the officer had the intention to deploy their Taser, but instead shot Mr. Wright with a single bullet."

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               Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               The full video is on youtube, shows a black officer trying to cuff Wright, he starts fighting with him trying to get back in the car., Porter warns three times --- "I will tase you". in a split second he is driving off and you hear Porter saying Oh s--- I shot him.  This officer clearly made a fatal mistake. However, one can see she did not intentionally shot this man.
               
               https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZB6wi-5Vvk

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   MG Singhposted 3 years ago

   Sitting a little far away I can gauge that people like Rashida are looking to weaken America from inside. This is the Islamic concept and I wonder who has elected her.

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   abwilliamsposted 3 years ago

   She is TROUBLE. Let us not forget that her primary reason for running for office was in order to impeach Donald Trump.
   I imagine those who were worked into hateful frenzies by CNN and others, elected her, so that Rashida, could get her chance.

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   Valeantposted 3 years ago

   'So questions --- Do you hope to see the police or law enforcement abolished as this dizzy nut job?'
   
   You clearly twisted her words there.  She wants to do away with policing that is 'intentionally racist,' not all policing.  That you formed an opinion about her from misunderstanding her words is more on you than her.
   
   In terms of the incident, definitely accidental.  But police have been convicted in these accidental cases before for manslaughter.  He was clearly trying to flee and did not grab for a weapon.

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      Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

      I fall back on her tweet --- context clesr.
      
      The Tweet ---  It wasn't an accident. Policing in our country is inherently & intentionally racist.
      
      Daunte Wright was met with aggression & violence. I am done with those who condone government-funded murder.
      
      No more policing, incarceration, and militarization. It can't be reformed.
      7:05 PM · Apr 12, 2021
      
      NOTE  --- NO MORE POLICING, INCARCERATION, AND MILITARIZATION,  IT CAN"T BE REFORMED!
      
      VERY CLEAR CONTEXT. She is a far-left racial baiting politician.

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      wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

      "He was clearly trying to flee and did not grab for a weapon."
      
      How can you tell?  More importantly, how can the police on the scene tell in the split second he dove into his car?  Had they already thoroughly searched the car, and knew there was no weapon there, or was it prudent to assume there was one?

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         Valeantposted 3 years agoin reply to this

         Because I watched the bodycam footage.  Did you?  She's literally facing him through a wide open door, with police on the sides of the car - where you have wondered if he used the car as a weapon - trying to fabricate more of a narrative for the shooting.

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            wildernessposted 3 years agoin reply to this

            You don't indicate how you know there was no weapon between the seats or on the floor....
            
            No guessing, no assumptions, no pretending - how do you [b]know[/i], and how did the cops in that split second know that there was no weapon?  Plus, of course, as you point out you know that he did not intend to use the car as a weapon.  While you're at it, tell how you know these things with one second of looking at the video, not sitting in you armchair and examining it for every nuance.

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               Valeantposted 3 years agoin reply to this

               How about answering the question?  Did you watch the video?  And if they saw a gun, I would have no issue with the use of deadly force - but you cannot prove there was a gun and neither can she, no matter how much you try and dilute the facts.

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               Sharlee01posted 3 years agoin reply to this

               There has been no information if there was a weapon in the car. However, the fact is Wright struggled to reenter the car and was arrested on two prior charges that he was caught with a gun. The officers knew he had priors where he had a gun one when arrested, one for robbing a woman at gunpoint.  So, the officers knew what they possibly could be up against. He would not be dead if he cooperated with being arrested for a crime he committed and did not respect the order to show up in court.

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