I’ll admit I can’t keep up with all of Trump’s proposals. During tonight’s press conference with Netanyahu, Trump suggested that the U.S. take control of Gaza, rebuild it, and transform it into a peaceful place where anyone could live. As for the 1.8 million Palestinians currently there, he proposed relocating them to open areas in the Middle East and building new communities where they could live and thrive. Is this a new idea, or has he been working on this? He seems to believe that many Middle Eastern nations would support the venture. In the past, he has stated that the U.S. would not pay to rehabilitate Gaza, and he appears to be emphasizing that Middle Eastern nations will take the lead in opening their countries and building places for the Palestinians to live.
The idea is very simplistic and blew my mind. If this works, it could solve many problems. Gaza is in ruins, the Palestinians have become nomads with nowhere to go, and no one is stepping up to rebuild Gaza.
Now let’s take a look at all that we’ll most likely hear from the media about Trump’s proposal. His idea to have the U.S. take control of Gaza, rebuild it, and relocate 1.8 million Palestinians to open areas in the Middle East is already causing a stir. Egypt and Jordan will undoubtedly reject the plan and refuse to take in displaced Palestinians. Global leaders, like France and Germany, will call it unacceptable, while human rights organizations will scream “ethnic cleansing.” The media will certainly highlight how unrealistic this proposal is—convincing a large population to leave their homes voluntarily is practically impossible, and, of course, no Middle Eastern nations have stepped up to help. They’ll also point out all the legal and ethical concerns around forcibly relocating people, and how this could violate international laws. Then, they’ll probably emphasize how such a move could destabilize the region even more and make things worse. Finally, they’ll authoritatively declare that, while the goal may be to solve long-standing problems, the reality is that this plan has massive obstacles and will face fierce opposition.
But hey, maybe the media could come up with some better ideas. They might even take a moment to consider the reality that these displaced people have nowhere to return to—Gaza is a leveled city with no infrastructure, no housing, nothing. And shocker—no one is stepping up to rebuild it. Common sense can be so taxing.
Keep in mind, the same media that said Trump would never secure the Abraham Accords... well, he did.
Shar,
It's a situation where nothing ever done in the past has worked. Not one single thing has ended the bloodshed.
Maybe it's time to "think outside the box" and try something very new and radical.
No matter what it does, it will be an improvement over what has been done in the past.
I was watching the press conference last night when Trump laid out his plan to take over Gaza, and when he dropped that idea, I almost fell out of my chair. But after thinking it through, I actually believe his idea could be a real solution—a win for all involved. I’ll be giving away my age here, but I’ve watched the Palestinians wage war on Israel for decades. History shows that since 1947, the Palestinians have waged war every 7 to 10 years. Nothing has worked, and the status quo has completely failed. It’s also clear that no one is willing to step up and pay to rebuild Gaza yet again. Trump made it clear that the U.S. wouldn’t be funding reconstruction, only considering aid for the Palestinian people. I wonder if he could convince any Middle Eastern nations to take in the Palestinians, though history has shown they’ve been unwilling to do so—probably because of their warring nature. Meanwhile, the left-wing media is in a frenzy this morning, but I suppose we’ll have to wait and see how this all plays out. One thing is certain: Trump is looking at parts of the world that could benefit the U.S. financially while still considering the people of those nations and how they fit into his broader strategy.
So I have to fully agree—no matter what he does, it will be an improvement over what has been. He’s a forward-thinking leader who isn’t afraid to break away from the status quo and confront problems head-on rather than ignore them.
What gives him the authority to do such?
And what happened to the base that saw Trump as the candidate of foreign policy isolationism? They haven't flip flopped.
This administration has been almost solely about poking our big nose into every corner of the world...
"poking our big nose" is one way of describing it. I think a better description is Trump behaving like a stray dog in your yard who has to pee in every corner to mark his territory.
Everybody calm down. In 24 hours he will change his mind. He says something radical so after the dust settles folks will accept the terrible idea he really meant to say because compared to the other one it suddenly seems more acceptable. Of course, it is still terrible - like not giving babies around the globe the medicine they need. Hey, at least that is not as bad as ------ fill in the blank.
We were warned.
Shar,
I don't think those on the left understand one thing about the situation. The palestinians don't want their own state. They want the destruction of Israel. It's just that simple.
Israel is not going anywhere.
How many know the palestinians were offered their own state FIVE times in the past? They rejected it every time because their own state is NOT what they want.
"5 times in the past Palestine rejected offer to have its own state.
If Israel just allowed the Palestinians to have a state of their own, there would be peace in the Middle East, right?
That’s what you hear from ambassadors, European diplomats, and most college professors.
But what if I told you that Israel has already offered the Palestinians a state of their own,
and not just once, but on five separate occasions?
Don’t believe me? Let’s review the record.
After the breakup of the Ottoman Empire, following World War I,
Britain took control of most of the Middle East, including the area that constitutes modern Israel. 17 years later, in 1936, the Arabs rebelled against the British and against the Jewish neighbors.
The British formed a task force, the Peal Commission, to study the cause of the rebellion.
The Commission concluded that the reason for the violence was that two peoples, Jews and Arabs, wanted to govern the same land. The answer, the Peal Commission concluded, would be to create two independent states, one for the Jews and one for the Arabs, a two-state solution.
Rejection number one.
The suggested split was heavily in favor of the Arabs. The British offered them 80% of the disputed territory, the Jews the remaining 20%. Yet, despite the tiny size of their proposed state, the Jews voted to accept this offer. But the Arabs rejected it and resumed their violent rebellion.
Rejection number two.
Ten years later, in 1947, the British asked the United Nations to find a new solution to the continuing tensions. Like the Peal Commission, the UN decided that the best way to resolve the conflict was to divide the land. In November 1947, the UN voted to create two states. Again, the Jews accepted the offer and again, the Arabs rejected it.
Only this time, they did so by launching an all-out war. Jordan, Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon and Syria joined the conflict. But they failed. Israel won the war and got on with the business of building a new nation. Most of the land set aside by the UN for an Arab state, the West Bank and East Jerusalem, became occupied territory. Occupied not by Israel, but by Jordan.
Rejection number three.
20 years later, in 1967, the Arabs led this time by Egypt and joined by Syria and Jordan, once again sought to destroy the Jewish state. The 1967 conflict, known as the Six-Day War, ended in a stunning victory for Israel. Jerusalem and the West Bank, as well as the area known as the Gaza Strip, fell into Israel’s hands.
The government split over what to do with this new territory. Half wanted to return the West Bank to Jordan and Gaza to Egypt in exchange for peace. The other half wanted to give it to the region’s Arabs, who had begun referring to themselves as the Palestinians, in the hope that they would ultimately build their own state there.
Neither initiative got very far.
A few months later, the Arab League met in Sudan and issued its infamous three-NOs, no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with Israel. Again, a two-state solution was dismissed by the Arabs.
Rejection number four.
In 2000, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak met at Camp David, with Palestinian Liberation Organization Chairman Nasser Arafat, to conclude a new two-state plan. Barak offered Arafat a Palestinian state in all of Gaza, and 94% of the West Bank, with East Jerusalem as its capital. But the Palestinian leader rejected the offer.
In the words of U.S. President Bill Clinton, “Arafat was here 14 days and said no to everything.”
Instead, the Palestinians launched a bloody wave of suicide bombings that killed over 1,000 Israelis and maimed thousands more, on buses, in wedding halls, and in pizza parlors.
Rejection number five.
In 2008, Israel tried yet again. Prime Minister Ehud Omar went even further than Ehud Barak had, expanding the peace offer to include additional land to sweeten the deal. Like his predecessor, the new Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, turned the deal down.
Even more of an LOL that Trump says America won't help fund the rebuilding of Gaza but will "own it" how does that work? The statement harkens back to we will build a wall and Mexico will pay for it...Not sure how folks keep saying no one is interested in funding the rebuilding?
Shear, whatever a man thinks and believe it can be done, yea, it can be done. Is not the Abraham Accord a success? It was. Decades ago, late Jimmy Carter, may he (rip) came up with Camp David Accord. It success. With 'God's speed', Trump will success again.
"no one is stepping up to rebuild it. Common sense can be so taxing."
Went to AI for this one...
Qatar: Qatar has been one of the most active supporters of reconstruction efforts in Gaza. It has provided significant financial assistance, including funding for infrastructure, housing, and essential services like electricity and water. Qatar also facilitated the construction of a hospital and other key projects in Gaza.
Egypt: Egypt has played a central role in Gaza's reconstruction, not just through direct aid but also by acting as a mediator between Israel and Palestinian factions. It has offered financial support, provided construction materials, and facilitated the entry of aid into Gaza via the Rafah border crossing. Additionally, Egypt has been involved in rebuilding infrastructure, such as roads and power lines.
Turkey: Turkey has consistently been a vocal advocate for the rights of Palestinians and has provided significant aid for rebuilding Gaza. It has funded projects for infrastructure, hospitals, schools, and housing. Turkish officials have also promised to help with the long-term reconstruction of Gaza.
United Nations (UN): The United Nations, through its various agencies like the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA), has been heavily involved in providing humanitarian aid and reconstruction efforts in Gaza. The UN has coordinated projects focusing on rebuilding schools, hospitals, and homes, while also addressing the ongoing humanitarian crisis.
European Union (EU): The EU has consistently pledged support for the reconstruction of Gaza, both financially and politically. Through the European Commission and its member states, the EU has been involved in providing humanitarian assistance and financing infrastructure projects. The EU has also been a key player in promoting peace and stability in the region, linking reconstruction efforts with broader peace initiatives.
Saudi Arabia: Saudi Arabia has also committed to supporting Gaza's reconstruction through financial aid. The country has donated funds for rebuilding efforts, including housing and infrastructure, and has also pledged humanitarian support for the people of Gaza.
Jordan: Jordan has expressed its commitment to assisting Gaza's reconstruction through humanitarian aid and reconstruction projects, particularly in the areas of housing and infrastructure.
Other Arab Nations: Countries like Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), and Bahrain have also pledged aid and support for Gaza's reconstruction. These countries have contributed financial resources, offered humanitarian assistance, and occasionally facilitated the entry of reconstruction materials into Gaza.
I have not found any true quotes on this issue. I have found many quotes promising aid, but no true pledges to rebuild Gaza. Any statements I did find were vague. Many nations make pledges but step away in the end.
Ask AI..it's ALL there. Has anyone seen the statement put out by Saudi Arabia in response to trump?
"Saudi Arabia Rebukes Trump Gaza Plan, Won't Recognize Israel Without Palestinian State"
Saudi Arabia's foreign ministry said in a statement on Wednesday that the country rejects any attempts to displace the Palestinians from their homeland, stressing that its position on the Palestinians is not up to negotiation
Is Trump going to start a conflict with Saudi Arabia now? Gee, wonder what the effect would be on oil prices?
https://www.timesofisrael.com/respondin … umstances/
Well my common sense leads me to this question... If America is taking over and owning Gaza, who will clean it up? Am I to believe that others will pay for the cleanup while we take the ownership to build resorts? Or will we ultimately pay for the cleanup? While we're paying $15 a carton for eggs?
Shar,
I like this idea.
It will guarantee Israel will have a border with a friendly entity. This could lead to peace in the Middle East.
I find it interesting that NO Arab country wants the palestinians despite a shared language and culture. Why? It's simple. They are afraid the palestinians could destabilize their country. It is a very valid concern. For generations the palestinians have lived off of handouts from other countries and focused all their energy on eliminating Israel. They've produced nothing. They've built nothing but terror tunnels. The only thing they've provided the world is terrorists and attacks on Israel.
This has to stop. Any people who would elect hamas are not right.
President Donald Trump's idea could provide many benefits to Israel and the world. I wonder if it could motivate palestinians to change their ways.
It's worth a try because NOTHING else has worked so far.
Well worth a try.
I completely agree with you. The Palestinians have never truly thrived as a people; they’ve always relied heavily on aid from other nations without creating lasting infrastructure or a prosperous economy. As you pointed out, they have been embroiled in cycles of war every few years, consistently living in substandard conditions. This is the unfortunate reality that would continue if nothing changes. It’s time for Israel to have peace without the ongoing threat of these violent factions in their immediate vicinity. The history of conflict is clear, and the Palestinians' lack of development speaks for itself.
The other Middle Eastern nations are not blind to this; they understand the risks and do not want to be burdened with the instability that would come with absorbing Palestinians. Trump’s plan to distribute them across the region is, in my view, a potential solution that could help them grasp the idea that peace and stability lead to better lives. Perhaps seeing this firsthand will encourage a shift in mindset toward a more peaceful existence, rather than clinging to outdated cycles of conflict. It’s certainly worth trying, given that every other attempt has failed.
I don't think it's the Palestinian people Sharlee. It's Hamas. Hamas ruled the Gaza strip basically as a dictatorship for 17 years. (one party system). They used the foreign aid money to enrich themselves with extreme wealthy people and very poor people as a result.
Now the Gaza strip is striped of the Hamas party, There is a new chance to build the community again. But they have to do it themselves. No country wants to be ruled by an other country. And the American way of live is completely different than the Arab way of live. You can't force your points of view on a different nation, even if you think that your way of live is better.
The big elephant in the room is radical islam. The Palestinian people have to get rid of this extreme ideology in one way or another. The moderate Palestinian voices have to renounce this.
Hopefully Syria gives an example of a new beginning for the area. (but it's to fresh to know where it will lead to.)
It's a complected and delicate situation in the Middle East.
I could understand your perspective on the Palestinian people if it weren’t for the ongoing conflict that has lasted for 75 years, with periodic wars over the decades. The region has experienced a cycle of destruction and rebuilding, beginning in 1948-1949, when many parts of Gaza were destroyed after the Arab-Israeli War and the establishment of the state of Israel, with refugees from Palestine fleeing to Gaza. In 1956, during the Suez Crisis, Gaza was severely damaged by military operations. The 1967 Six-Day War brought Gaza under Israeli control, resulting in considerable destruction. Fast forward to more recent history, and Gaza faced significant devastation during the Gaza War (Operation Cast Lead) in 2008-2009, followed by substantial damage to infrastructure in 2012 during Operation Pillar of Defense. The 2014 Gaza War (Operation Protective Edge) caused widespread destruction of homes, schools, and infrastructure. Most recently, in 2021, the May conflict (Operation Guardian of the Walls) led to significant damage in Gaza from Israeli airstrikes. Then came the horrendous October 7th massacre, where over 1,000 Israeli civilians were killed in a brutal attack by Hamas.
This event escalated the conflict to another level of violence and retaliation, further deepening the cycle of war and suffering. This kind of history should tell you something about the people and their mission.
Through all of this, Gaza has remained impoverished and dependent on aid from other nations, including resources like water and electricity from Israel, and has struggled to escape the cycle of rebuilding after repeated wars.
It would seem nothing has worked thus far, and no real new solutions are being offered. Trump's solution may well be worth the Middle Eastern nations listening to. It would take great cooperation from many in the region. But could it offer peace all the way around?
It might be hard finding moderate Palestinian voices. The recent hostage releases have shown Hamas with strong support from the Palestinian 'civilians.'
First are the images of the full-military dress of the Hamas terrorists delivering the hostages to Israel and the Red Cross, which appeared to show Hamas is far from stripped from Gaza.
Then there was the massive crowd of civilians cheering for Hamas during the hostage exchange, and finally, the civilian Gaza woman going on camera (a news feed) boasting that she hid and guarded the hostages in her home.
The concept of a separation between Hamas and the Gazan population is getting harder to accept.
I am beginning to see this Gaza issue as more intractable than complicated. After 75 years, delicacy has shown its failure. It's not delicacy, it's obstinance.
GA
I don't know, are public displays an indication of support? When Kim jong-un is met with cheering crowds can we assume they wholeheartedly support the regime or maybe that a public display of support is the only option? The less fatal option?
Am I understanding the logic correctly? These people "war" too much so they deserve to have their land taken away? That sentiment could be applied to many other nations... Nations that have historically warred a whole lot more. Does that give us a reason to take their land and displace them? Good thing the other nations don't have resort style land....
But can someone remind me again, why are we involved in Gaza?
You took a wrong turn with the "war too much" thought, it wasn't part of my comment. And I don't think—as an opinion—that the description of the hostage exchange scene is comparable to your Jung-un example. Those folks looked happy. As a nod to Tsmog, I might even spend an extra quarter and say they were exuberant. ;-)
I could be as wrong as I think I am right. We all know the value of less-than-informed or misinformed opinions.
GA
We do?
... why do I always feel like I am missing something?
oh wait...
there it is...
nope, that wasn't it
I would say the problem IS the Palestinian people. Here is a recent poll.
"Two-thirds of respondents said they continue to support the Hamas-led Oct. 7 attack on Israel, in which militants killed 1,200 people and took at least 240 hostages, and 80% believe it put the Palestinian issue at the center of global attention.
About half of those responding to the survey in Gaza said they expected Hamas to win the war with Israel and return to rule the Gaza Strip, while a quarter said they expected Israel to win...40% of Palestinians in both the West Bank and Gaza said they would prefer Hamas to govern them."
Hamas killed I believe 30 American citizens on Oct 7, and still hold an unknown number of American citizens hostage. This was underplayed by the Biden administration. Biden was the guy who did nothing about this. Trump is getting the hostages released and has been given all the credit by the families. I can not even fathom why anyone can't understand the history that follows the Palestinians, it is well laid out. This last atrocity should be proof enough that something needs to be done to stop their warring. It is clear no nation wants them, and this is what some should be asking themselves. Perhaps if they where relocated to other nations they might realize they can have better lives.
Here's a radical new idea... I don't know, it may have been proposed previously....
America needs to butt the hell out. This is netanyahu's problem, not ours. And if Trump can't keep his greedy little fingers out of the pot, then he gets everything that's in the pot... Including the Palestinians. Relocation to beachfront property in florida, yes like they're used to? Sounds like another plan.
Maga needs to stop the waffling
AI is useful. Others in this forum use it. I do for background information, yet I hesitate participating in the back and forth on Trump. I take the position as an observer . . . .
Kicking back watching Chaos Theory unfold while Entropy seeks to predict the future.
So, far it has been interesting while consequences won't be a known factor for a bit and a byte of time from now. For instance, the emails to resign have hit the VA medical community - doctors, nurses, and staff. They are already understaffed and always held to the fire about timely service. Where are they going to get new replacements when there is nurse shortage in the US to begin with.
You hit the nail on the head. There are a lot of issues in this country that impact the everyday lives of people, particularly their health and well-being. Folks are going to quickly realize that those things are being ignored in favor of building resorts on the Gaza strip. It's going to get ugly.
"On Jan. 28, 2025, the U.S. Office of Personnel Management sent a government-wide email presenting a deferred resignation offer to federal employees ... on behalf of the Department of Veterans Affairs, I am informing you that the officer is valid, lawful and will be honored by VA," Hunter wrote in his email.
Hunter promised that if VA employees tenured their resignations, they would receive pay and benefits through Sept. 30 and would not be subject to any reductions in force or premature separations.
"You are not expected to work during the deferred resignation period and will be able to take a non-governmental job during the deferred resignation period, subject to applicable laws and regulations," Hunter wrote.
The announcement follows more than two years of extensive hiring by the VA to fill essential roles, including clinical staff and benefits workers. In fiscal 2023, the Veterans Health Administration staff grew by 7.4% with the hiring of roughly 61,000 people, for a net increase of 28,000, and the Veterans Benefits Administration, which handles claims, hired more than 6,000.
NOTE---- But the VA announced in early 2024 that it needed to trim 10,000 full-time positions, largely as a result of the record hiring and improved retention. The department has roughly 450,000 employees.
As a result of an executive order from President Donald Trump in January calling for a federal hiring freeze, the VA announced that more than 304,000 jobs at the department were considered exempt, under exceptions that include health-care workers and public safety personnel. But it also said that no other vacancies would be filled and those who were hired but hadn't been onboarded before Feb. 8 would have their job offers rescinded.
NOTE ---In his email Monday, Hunter reiterated that agencies can reject resignation requests from those who work in "health care, law enforcement, public safety and other limited categories of essential services."
https://www.military.com/daily-news/202 … hatgpt.com
Yup, that is what I read too. There are quite a few articles out there on this topic. Another recent interesting article is . . .
VA nurses are in short supply. Unions say Trump's deferred resignation plan could make things worse by AP News (Feb 5, 2025)
https://www.yahoo.com/news/va-nurses-sh … 39037.html
The opening paragraphs are . . .
"For the federal government's largest group of employees — nurses caring for military veterans through the Department of Veterans Affairs — the Trump administration's deferred resignation offer and its looming Thursday deadline come amid longstanding staffing shortages, deemed severe at more than half of all facilities.
Unions are discouraging nurses from accepting the offer, and leaders say an exodus would directly and immediately affect the care of its 9.1 million enrolled veterans.
“We’re already facing a staffing crisis in our hospitals,” said Irma Westmoreland, a registered nurse who heads the Veterans Affairs unit for National Nurses United. “We cannot afford to lose any more staff.”
The email I referred to suggests that in certain essential services like healthcare, law enforcement, and public safety, agencies—such as the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)—can refuse resignation requests. This means that even if a nurse or other essential worker submits a resignation under the deferred resignation offer, the agency has the authority to deny it, particularly if their role is deemed critical for maintaining operations and services.
In the case of VA healthcare workers, who are crucial to providing care for military veterans, the agency may choose to retain employees due to staffing shortages and the essential nature of their work.
I think this is what I was getting out of the article I posted. What I came to understand many departments became overstaffed in 2024, and now they want to cut staffing in some departments. Seem that nurses are not on the chopping block. Am I not seeing something here?
VA nurses are often among the highest-paid nurses, especially in comparison to those working in non-federal healthcare settings. This is due to a combination of factors, including federal pay scales, specialized roles, and the level of responsibility involved in caring for military veterans.
Saudi Arabia is not happy about the plan. Iran will see it as a direct threat.
Many countries in the area won't tolerate a US military presence. Also from what I've read the Republican party is against military presence in the Gaza strip.
So to go in and give the land to American project developers is incredibly risky. Let alone that the Arab world will see it as imperialism.
Make the Gaza strip an independent province of Israel and give the Palestinians the same rights as the Israeli. imho (just a simple thought for a complex problem.)
Here is the latest death toll of Palestinians in Gaza since Feb. 3
Killed: at least 61,709 people, including 17,492 children
Injured: more than 111,588 people
Missing and presumed dead: more than 14,222
Here is the latest death toll of Israelis killed since Feb.3
Killed: 1,139 people
Injured: at least 8,730
This is all because of Israeli Netanyahu's policies about how to treat the Palestinian people since 1948. Every decision has a price to pay. The Palestinian people have been treated as second class people since 1948 by Israelis occupation and settlements of Palestine...
They have been pushing down Palestinian Houses to make way for Israeli settlements since that time, all in the name of them thinking it is their God Given right to the Palestinian territory. Oct. 7 was the price Israel had to pay for that treatment by Hamas.
They have always framed it as they don't give Israel the right to exists. When actually, it is just the opposite. Israel has made the Palestinian people refugees in their own land.
So Netanyahu used Oct. 7 to bomb the Hamas tunnel networks in Gaza and by doing so he has turned Gaza to rubble and its people into refugees with no place to live in their own land. However, even since Netanyahu turned Gaza into rubble, Hamas still exists because it's an idea, not a country.
I don't think Trump is capable of empathy, so it would be easy in his mind to transport the remaining Gaza people to other countries and turn Gaza into his Riviera of the Middle East.
In my mind, Israel has done to the Palestinian people what Germany did to the Jews in WWII. It is basically a form of genocide to clear the land of Palestinians so that Netanyahu and Trump can rebuild that land for the Israeli people. Nothing would make Netanyahu happier than to rid every single Palestinian from that land and now he has Trump to do it for him.
Trump is very transactional. He will float ideas and then they will be approved or disapproved by the other parties. Then he will either back off or change his proposal to fit the situation. He will never says he is wrong, but will blame others for his mistakes..
"I don't think Trump is capable of empathy, so it would be easy in his mind to transport the remaining Gaza people to other countries and turn Gaza into his Riviera of the Middle East."
Agreed and I'll go a step further, I think Trump will turn the other way as Netanyahu restarts the fighting...and it will be brutal. Massive casualties.
Saudi Arabia’s position on establishing a Palestinian state is firm and non-negotiable. Without a Palestinian state, there can be no peace in the region. The Palestinian people have the right to live on their own land. The Saudis have continually expressed their desire to rebuild Gaza. Fun fact... They have more than enough money to do it. The UAE has also expressed their desire to join in the rebuilding of Gaza.
if anyone thinks Americans will support spending one penny on rebuilding Gaza...they are mistaken. In maga language....This is NOT our problem. America first. Of course military action has not been ruled out.
"It is not the US duty of the US military to solve ancient conflicts in far away lands...." I'll let y'all take a guess at who said that.
The focus on our own domestic issues in this country, that trump ran on and people voted for, sure has disappeared quickly in all the "look here not there" chaos.
Relative to the Gaza idea, Senator Tillis had an appropriate quote (at least for this Boomer): "There's probably a couple kinks in that slinky."
GA
"The pursuit for peace should be that of the Israelis and the Palestinians.
I thought we voted for America First.
We have no business contemplating yet another occupation to doom our treasure and spill our soldiers blood."
....Rand Paul.
Proposed Invasions and Takeovers:
- Panama Canal
- Greenland
- Canada
- Gaza
Nice job, MAGA. Gee, I wonder who stands to make a billions on this...Bibi could hardly contain his Joy. Trump Gaza resort anyone?
Gaz-A-Lago....
Sounds familiar, Washington has a solution to the Indian Wars, get the tribes to agree to move from their home lands to reservations, how novel. There is your compromise, the sort of compromise always promoted by the Right,"my way or the highway".
The Israeli right is ecstatic about it as this is the best solution short of genocide for the Palestinian question. Netanyahu has now solve the Palestinian question for all time.
Now, I suppose that Trump will want the Nobel Peace Prize?
Will the Palestinians accede to this "compromise" while sitting down? Tune in to Helter Skelter for the next installment.
Mike, I agree—the bloodshed has been horrific, and it's clear that many Palestinians are not warriors by nature but are trapped in an ideology that dates back a thousand years. I have to believe that many of them would welcome a lasting peace, along with a place where they can live and work without fear of constant conflict.
Many nations have voiced strong objections to President Donald Trump's plan to take control of the Gaza Strip, with some calling for the region's reconstruction, much as has been done after previous conflicts. This includes calls for international support to rebuild Gaza’s infrastructure and provide for the displaced Palestinian people. However, despite the numerous statements from global leaders emphasizing the need for reconstruction, I found no clear commitments from any country to foot the bill.
The only notable response regarding financing came from Trump himself, who made it clear that the United States would not contribute to rebuilding Gaza. Instead, his plan proposes relocating Palestinians to other Middle Eastern nations, aiming for their integration into new communities rather than focusing solely on Gaza’s reconstruction. Trump's proposal is strikingly different from the more conventional approaches advocated by the UN and other nations, positioning his solution as an out-of-the-box, bold alternative to the status quo. While global leaders rally behind the idea of rebuilding, the question of who will pay for it remains unanswered. It will be interesting to see if the many nations that are upset about Trump's plans will speak up and promise the funds to reconstruct Gaza.
One thing is obvious: Trump will not rebuild Gaza only to hand it back over to the Palestinians. His vision is to rebuild the area and ensure that the U.S. makes its money back from the project. Personally, I don’t want to see our tax dollars spent yet again to rebuild Gaza, especially when it's been done multiple times before with little to show for it.
My head is sort of spinning --- this morning it appears he has turned to dismantling or reevaluating the Department of Education. He is a man with many irons in the fire.
An interesting article by Daily Caller a far right news source according to allsides on the Gaza Strip being taken over offers an interesting perspective. Of course, bear in mind it is an opinion piece.
Trump Flirts With Poison Pill That Could Destroy His MAGA Agenda by Daily Caller (Feb 5, 2025)
https://dailycaller.com/2025/02/05/dona … ddle-east/
I read the article up to this point ---- " Let’s liquidate Gaza, and get thousands of Americans killed in the process, so Jared Kushner can build a fancy beachfront resort. Fantastic idea, and I’m sure poor people in rural Kentucky will be thrilled to hear they have the opportunity to spend spring break at the five-star Kushner Hotel, where they will be catered to by a Palestinian olive farmer whose entire family was obliterated by an Israeli drone strike."
The minute the unfounded, silly accusations started flying, I stopped reading. Accusations like these make me question professionalism and common decency. It's easy to lash out at a stranger, but that kind of journalism is a turn-off. It spreads negativity, and honestly, I think we have enough of that already. Many simple-minded will grab that statement and run with it.
But Kushner, last year, talked about what is being pushed by Trump right now...
Jared Kushner has praised the “very valuable” potential of Gaza’s “waterfront property” and suggested Israel should remove civilians while it “cleans up” the strip.
It’s a little bit of an unfortunate situation there, but from Israel’s perspective I would do my best to move the people out and then clean it up,” Kushner said. “But I don’t think that Israel has stated that they don’t want the people to move back there afterwards.”
Kushner also said he thinks Israel should move civilians from Gaza to the Negev desert in southern Israel.
He said that if he were in charge of Israel his number one priority would be getting civilians out of the southern city of Rafah, and that “with diplomacy” it could be possible to get them into Egypt.
“But in addition to that, I would just bulldoze something in the Negev, I would try to move people in there,” he said. “I think that’s a better option, so you can go in and finish the job.”
Yep .. "finish the job".
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 … rael-negev
Okay . . . I warned it is an opinion piece. You did read that didn't you?
Trump won an election... but those that supported DEI and CRT, the inversion of inequality and championed victimhood have not gone away...
The media did not turn a new leaf, those who controlled CNN and Disney are still the same, BlackRock and Vanguard still control trillions of dollars our government shills funneled to them over the years... especially the last 4 years.
They are sharpening their tools... they will come at Trump and his supporters again, in the ways they like to operate, in the shadows and with deception and deceit... because when they expose who they really are... like they did the last 4 years... the overwhelming majority reject them.
Well that and with the help of one billionaire that was willing to stand up against it all, and risk all, to expose the Twitter Files and put his influence behind the one who first took up this fight against those trying to destroy America and all that it has stood for... the good... the potential to be better.
While America, should give the same but higher level of support their gave biden to President Trump always.
Our beloved Shear put it that some 30 Americans plus were killed on 7 October, by Hamas. If that is a factor in Trump's mind to clear and clean Gaza, great. What nations could kept mum if their nationals were being killed in such an unprovoked scenario? Trump, is indeed a peaceful person. Let him go ahead. He'll earn the Nobel Peace Prize.
My oh my Little Marco...how far you've come.
https://x.com/JustinFishelABC/status/18 … 5031900405
The surrounding Arab countries could have taken in the Palestinians when Israel was first formed. They didn't want them. Plus they served the purpose of those countries getting to say, Look how badly the Israelis are treating them. Nothing has changed.
by Castlepaloma 14 months ago
https://youtu.be/9s_R9XRbEnU?si=lQ9dszQdQSCDqikTGaza per capita is starving greater than anywhere in the world. The greatest weapon in world War 2 was starvation.. the world demands anther ceasefire. I protest every US war in my lifetime, except the Cold war of USSR. Because War solved nothing. and...
by Scott Belford 7 weeks ago
First, let me say that I support Israel's right to exist, always have and always will. I also support Palestine's right to exist as well.Let me also say that the Donald Trump of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, is trying to destroy everything that Israel stands for. His one-state solution...
by safiq ali patel 11 years ago
The topic of Israeli and Palestinian relations comes up often. Be it when bombs and shelling kick off in the disputed territories, or be it when either side steps up a campaign for recognition. We have all over the years got used to the Israel and Palestinian Issue being a hot topic of debate. In...
by Thomas Byers 12 years ago
The Palestinian Authority is expected to win an upgrade of its observer status at the United Nations on Thursday from "entity" to "non-member state," which would amount to implicit U.N. recognition of the sovereign state of Palestine.WHAT IS NON-MEMBER STATE STATUS?The...
by Muhammad Mashhood Qasmi 12 years ago
What will you say about Israeli atrocities in Gaza strip?Israeli jets are continued to pound the bombings at helpless people of Gaza strip. Many innocent citizens including children are being targeted. UNO (a slave to few powerful nations), seem to do nothing.
by yoshi97 14 years ago
I understand the bad blood between Israel and Palestine, but what I can't understand is violently attacking a flotilla aimed at offering humanitarian aid!These people were on a mission of peace, and at best, they should have been met at the door and dismissed. There was no reason for anyone to die,...
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