An assertion of absolute power... FASCISM
https://x.com/BulwarkOnline/status/1960424561008136507
Defying Congress, Trump Moves to Cut $4.9 Billion in Foreign Aid
The White House has informed Congress it intends to cancel $4.9 billion that lawmakers approved for foreign aid programs, invoking a little-known and legally untested power to slash spending without their approval.
The 15-page notification, sent to Congress on Thursday night and reviewed by The New York Times, is the administration’s first effort to push through what is known as a “pocket rescission.” It is an effort to unilaterally claw back money that has already been appropriated by waiting so late in the fiscal year to make the request that lawmakers do not have time to reject it before the funding expires.
The move, the latest chapter in an intensive fight between Mr. Trump and Congress over spending powers, drew swift condemnation from the top Republican on the Appropriations Committee, who called it illegal.
The maneuver could further complicate lawmakers’ attempts to cobble together a bipartisan funding package to ensure the government does not shut down on Oct. 1. Any spending compromise must win Democratic support in the Senate to pass, and Democrats have said they would be loath to lend their votes to such a package if the White House continued unilaterally cutting congressionally approved funding.
The Government Accountability Office, a nonpartisan oversight body that reports to Capitol Hill, ruled during the first Trump administration that pocket rescissions are illegal. But Russell T. Vought, the director of the Office of Management and Budget, has made the case that the executive branch has broad discretion to use them.
From a different angle, this action could be seen as a strong exercise of executive power to prioritize U.S. interests and taxpayer money. Supporters might argue that foreign aid spending has often been excessive, poorly targeted, or lacking accountability, and that the president is right to assert discretion over how funds are allocated, especially when Congress has approved large sums without stringent oversight. By invoking the “pocket rescission” process, even if legally untested, the administration signals a willingness to challenge entrenched spending practices and assert fiscal discipline.
Here are facts on what was cut.
Reuters https://www.reuters.com/legal/governmen … hatgpt.com
There is now more detailed information about the $4.9 billion in foreign aid that President Trump has canceled through a "pocket rescission." The funds were allocated across 15 international programs, primarily managed by the State Department and USAID. These programs include:
Reuters
$3.2 billion for USAID development assistance
$322 million for USAID-State Department peacekeeping and democracy-building initiatives
$1.7 billion from the Economic Support Fund, which supports economic development and stability in strategic countries
$496 million from the International Disaster Assistance account
$500 million from Global Health Programs, which fund child and maternal health, HIV/AIDS, and infectious disease initiatives
$125 million from the Clean Technology Fund, which invests in green energy projects
$437 million from the International Organizations and Programs account, which funds voluntary contributions to international organizations and programs, including the United Nations
$460 million from Assistance for Europe, Eurasia, and Central Asia, which supports former communist countries in Europe, Eurasia, and Central Asia
$496 million from the International Disaster Assistance account, which provides humanitarian assistance
$125 million from USAID Operating Expenses, which funds salaries and benefits for USAID direct hires and staff overseas
$57 million from Transition Initiatives, which supports activities that prevent and respond to crises in fragile countries
$27 million from the Inter-American Foundation, which provides grants to organizations in Latin America and the Caribbean
$22 million from the United States African Development Foundation, which supports development projects in Africa
$15 million from the U.S. Institute of Peace, which funds conflict mitigation and intervention programs
The Washington Post
The White House
These cuts have raised concerns. The move is expected to face legal challenges, possibly reaching the Supreme Court.
I say that it is
Executive overreach, cutting funding that Congress appropriates. Why do you continue to write such eloquent prose and make such elaborate excuses to what is clearly a usurpation of the power and authority of one branch by another. Are the Republicans in Congress so mesmerized as to give up their Constitutional role regarding the public purse? You write such a flowery narrative to make it all seem reasonable and as natural as a sunrise.
That is the danger of MAGA, making the unacceptable, unethically or illegal actions by Trump seem much more palatable and normal, while that is far from the truth. The scent of impeding tyranny is in the air…..
Hi Cred, I really appreciate your comment; it makes for a solid conversation. You’re asking thoughtful things on the subject and showing genuine interest in another perspective, which I respect. Too often, I notice people assume what I’m thinking instead of simply asking, so I value your approach.
As for my earlier comment, I was really just putting out another possibility to consider. I could have gone further, but I didn’t want it to come across as biased. The second part of my post was just to add some factual context, mainly what Trump actually proposed to cut. I think seeing those details helps frame the issue more clearly. The article that was shared gives some truth and facts, but it doesn’t really break down what specifically is being cut, who the money was going to, or what programs were involved. For me, seeing where our tax dollars were headed before these cuts was eye-opening. I honestly didn’t realize how large the amounts were, who was receiving them, or for what purposes.
So really, I wasn’t trying to push a personal opinion about the funds or about Trump cutting them. I was just offering some food for thought. To be honest, I’d want to look much more closely at the full list before forming a solid stance.
I see you are of the view that Trump has stepped over the line, and overreach is in play. I can again only share my opinion. This is a really complicated issue. But a really fair concern, and I think it deserves a straightforward answer. Trump used something called a “pocket rescission” to hold back about $4.9 billion in foreign aid that Congress had already approved. Yes, normally, Congress controls the money through the “power of the purse,” but the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 gives the president limited room to suggest canceling funds (a rescission). If the request is filed during the last 45 days of the fiscal year, the money can be frozen, and if it runs out of time before Congress acts, those funds basically disappear. No president has used this move since 1977.
Legally, it looks like a bit of a gray area. The administration says this is allowed under the Act, but critics, including from both parties, say it crosses the line and undercuts Congress’s authority. The Government Accountability Office has even said before that pocket rescissions aren’t legal, so there’s definitely a real debate here.
And just earlier this month, a federal appeals court actually let Trump go ahead with the cuts, overturning a lower court’s block. But the judges didn’t rule on whether it was constitutional; they said the challengers didn’t have legal standing to sue. One judge disagreed, warning that this kind of maneuver could upset the balance of power between branches. The court also pointed out that, technically, it’s the GAO that has the power to enforce the Impoundment Control Act.
So, bottom line: Trump did use the rescission process to delay the funds. Whether it’s fully legal is still unsettled. His team says yes, GAO says no, and the courts haven’t given a final answer yet.
So, I am going to stand with whatever the courts rule. I am not setting a match to my hair; I trust that in the end, the courts will handle this.
I’ll add that Trump had promised to do this, so it wasn’t a surprise to me when he followed through. Please keep that in mind. I think many people didn’t take him at his word, simply because we aren’t used to presidents working so vigorously to keep their promises.
What say you to these decisions?
Train v. City of New York, 420 U.S. 35 (1975) — The Supreme Court held the Executive may not withhold congressionally appropriated funds to frustrate Congress’s program; the statute did not give “limitless power” to withhold funds. This case is the classic affirmation of Congress’s power of the purse.
City of New Haven v. United States, 809 F.2d 900 (D.C. Cir. 1987) — After INS v. Chadha invalidated one-House legislative vetoes, the D.C. Circuit struck down the ICA’s original deferral section (then §1013) as inseverable, and stressed the difference between limited programmatic delays and unlawful policy impoundments. Congress later amended the ICA (1987) to allow only narrow, programmatic deferrals and to end at the close of the fiscal year. This history undercuts end-run tactics like pocket rescissions.
State Highway Comm’n of Missouri v. Volpe (8th Cir. 1973) — Courts rejected Nixon-era attempts to withhold highway funds; another affirmation that agencies must carry out spending laws absent clear authority to withhold.
Commonwealth of Pennsylvania v. Lynn (D.D.C. 1973) — District court ordered HUD to administer programs rather than suspend them for policy reasons: executive disagreements with Congress are not a basis to ignore spending laws. (CRS sums this up.)
Seems like the courts are pretty consistent - the "pocket recission" is illegal.
From the real angle - that illegal action is PURE AUTHORITARIANISM. Each time it has been tried, the GAO ruled it illegal as did several courts, including the Supreme Court.
But, what else do you expect from a man who has no respect for the law or our Constitution?
How is using the National Guard to pick up Starbucks cups or planting petunias, to the tune of $1 million dollars per day, from DC prioritizing taxpayer dollars???
Trump to DEPORT Guatemalan children back to the country they escaped from - how many will suffer and die as a result.
I hope you agree, Trump is one sick Bastard!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/08/29/politics … mmigration
I had ChatGPT do a deep dive on where we stand on the Authoritarianism scale of 0 - 100, where 0 is no threat to democracy and 100 is we have fallen over the authoritarian cliff.
It used several outside sources who study such things and had it develop its own analysis based on that research. Here is what it comes up with and it sure seems correct:
Estimated U.S. authoritarianism danger score, 1990 → 2025
Year Score Why (federal, condensed)
1990 15 Low baseline: competitive elections, strong courts/press; pre-PATRIOT Act era.
1994 18 Culture-war polarization intensifies; religious-right organizing embedded in GOP (Christian Coalition).
2001 22 9/11 → PATRIOT Act expands surveillance/search powers; civil-liberties concerns rise.
2004 23 Ongoing war-on-terror authorities (NSLs, detentions) normalize exceptional powers.
2010 24 Citizens United supercharges outside money/party capture risks; institutions still strong.
2013 25 Shelby County v. Holder guts VRA preclearance—opens door to restrictive voting laws (mainly state-level, but affects federal elections).
2016 25 Still a functioning liberal democracy; warning lights: Garland blockade (Senate refuses hearings) + EIU downgrades U.S. to “flawed democracy” on trust-erosion grounds.
2018 30 First Trump term: norm erosion (attacks on DOJ/FBI, media as “enemy”), but press/courts remain assertive; RSF rank around this era shows a pressured but free press.
2021 40 Jan 6: violent attempt to block certification; ~140 officers injured; Congress later awards Capitol Police gold medals. Durable election-legitimacy damage.
Police Forum
Congress.gov
2025 (Aug) 50 Second Trump term: intensified loyalty politics in Congress, direct pressure on universities (e.g., $2.2B Harvard freeze), threats to prosecutorial independence; expert panels (Bright Line Watch) put overall democracy performance in the mid-50s/100.
How I estimated
Same criteria as before: congressional fealty to the leader; rule of law/prosecutorial independence; press & dissent; weaponization of federal power; respect for checks and norms.
Anchor points: I used major, well-documented inflection events to nudge the score up/down (PATRIOT Act 2001; Citizens United 2010; Shelby 2013; 2016 Garland/EIU downgrade; Jan 6; 2025 loyalty/retaliation dynamics and academic-freedom fights).
External cross-checks (not determinative): RSF press-freedom snapshots and Bright Line Watch’s 0–100 expert ratings (fell to ~55 in early 2025), to make sure my qualitative scores were in the same neighborhood.
If you plot that data you will see slow growth in Authoritarianism until 2005 when it starts to level out to the 25% level. Then starting in 2017, it grows very quickly to the current estimate of 50% or halfway to a Putin-like society. That fits with my perception. My bet is Credence may see it closer to 75%.
“My bet is Credence may see it closer to 75%.”
He does, what I am being exposed to here is unprecedented and unorthodox.
No doubt and understandable given where you come from as opposed to my upbringing.
BREAKING
Judge Breyer blocks the use of the National Guard in Los Angeles: "[A]t Defendants’ orders and contrary to Congress’s explicit instruction, federal troops executed the laws. ... In short, Defendants violated the Posse Comitatus Act."
Order stayed through 9/12 for appeal.
the judge ruled that trump must follow the laws that Congress passed regulating how the military may be used.... IMAGINE THAT
Damn, you beat me to it, lol.
I wonder what impact that will have on Trump's announcement about the Pentagon this afternoon? I was hoping he was firing Hegseth but more likely announcing Marial Law (for those of you who don't understand sarcasm, that was sarcasm.)
But this quote from the judge IS NOT sarcasm, it is outright frightening!
" Trump appears intent on 'creating a national police force with the President as its Chief' "
Supposedly the announcement will be related to the Department of Defense. I'm guessing it could be the ridiculous name change but who knows. He's been hiding for a week now. Personally, I think he had some kind of health event.
In my view, Judge Breyer’s ruling really won’t hold up the way it’s being portrayed. From the beginning, Trump gave strict orders that the troops and National Guard were to protect government property, federal buildings, and personnel, not to act as local police. That’s an important distinction, because under the Posse Comitatus Act, it’s unlawful for the military to perform civilian law enforcement duties, but it is entirely lawful for them to defend federal assets.
By framing the deployment in this narrow role, Trump already anticipated this very challenge. To me, that makes the judge’s order look more like judicial overreach than a true check on presidential authority. The troops aren’t out patrolling neighborhoods or making arrests; they’re standing guard where the federal government has every right to ensure safety.
The judge’s order doesn’t really change anything Trump wasn’t already doing. His directives made it clear from the start that the troops and National Guard were there with limited, specific roles, protecting federal property, securing government facilities, and safeguarding personnel. They weren’t out making arrests or acting as city police, which is the type of conduct the Posse Comitatus Act prohibits. In that sense, the ruling feels redundant, almost as if it’s addressing a problem that Trump had already accounted for. It looks more symbolic than practical, and to me, that’s why this case seems likely to fall apart quickly once it moves to appeal.
I would imagine the DOJ is already preparing an emergency appeal, and in any case, this will be a slam dunk for Trump. He dotted the I’s and crossed the T’s when sending in troops and the National Guard.
The judge found the military troops were performing law enforcement duties, such as arrests and crowd control, which violates the 1878 Posse Comitatus Act.
"Deployed for law enforcement: The judge ruled that the National Guard troops were used for prohibited law enforcement activities, including:
Conducting crowd and traffic control.
Setting up blockades.
Performing security patrols.
Participating in apprehensions and searches.
Beyond authority: He also determined that the Trump administration exceeded its legal authority and violated California's policing powers under the Tenth Amendment. The court rejected the administration's claims that the deployments were justified due to a "rebellion".
The judge noted that the Trump administration had "coached" federal law enforcement agencies on how to request military aid and tried to frame the military activities as purely protective. Evidence showed, however, that uniformed military personnel were actively carrying out law enforcement functions.
AI
Well, in that case, Trump needs to Courts Martial a bunch of soldiers and officers for disobeying his orders don't you think. It was proved to the judge they were clearly performing law enforcement duties.
I would argue that Trump has proven time and again that he does not know how to dot 'Is' and cross 'Ts'.
September 2: Judge Breyer issues ruling that military deployment violated Posse Comitatus.
Stay issued: Case paused until September 12 to allow the DOJ to file an appeal.
DOJ appeal confirmed: The Biden administration has stated it’s appealing the ruling.
Likely path: Review by Ninth Circuit, with potential escalation to the Supreme Court if warranted.
I see a win for Trump. That's my opinion. He does very well in the Supreme Court. In my view, because he does his homework, knows he will be sued, and has a great chance of winning.
AI Full Supreme Court (merits) cases: 3 total, with 2 clear wins and 1 mixed outcome.
Emergency (shadow docket) cases: Roughly 19–22 filed, about 11–13 decided, with approximately 9–10 WINS, 1 partial win, and about 2 losses.
He clearly understands the legal landscape and how his cases will likely be resolved, strategically using the courts to advance his agenda. He seems to have mastered using the courts.
Trump’s Success Rate In The Courts So Far: 31%....as of July
AI says...
The administration's success rate has been significantly lower than previous administrations, which typically had a win rate around 70%
You are diverting, and it is clear once again did not consider the context of my comment. I quote cases from the Supreme Court. He has won slightly over 75% of his cases.
I read the July 9, 2025, Forbes article titled "Here’s President Trump’s Success Rate In The Courts (So Far)" by Alison Durkee, which claims the Trump administration won roughly 31% of court rulings, lost about 60%, and had 9% pending or partially resolved.
The article, however, is vague and misleading. It provides no explanation of how these numbers were calculated or which cases were included. There’s no evidence that the statistics cover all federal cases, district courts, courts of appeal, or the Supreme Court, and it makes no distinction between court levels or track of case progressions. Many losses at lower courts were appealed, with several reaching the Supreme Court and resulting in favorable outcomes.
In short, the 31% figure offers a simplistic snapshot that fails to capture or prove the administration’s true legal performance, especially when Supreme Court victories are taken into account.
In short ..
"Based on an analysis of his first term and the beginning of his second term in 2025, Donald Trump has a mixed record at the Supreme Court, but his overall win percentage is far lower than 75%. The statement that he has won "slightly over 75% of his cases" is false."
MULTIPLE AI BOTS
I also noticed that the names of the Supreme Court cases she is referring to weren't supplied, even when asked politely.
Still not supplied so I am forced to assume it was made up.
I assume you meant the Trump administration appealed.
Also, to be more precise about your count, I see it as:
Since January, the administration has sought emergency relief in ~19–22 cases. The very conservative Court has acted in ~11–13, granting relief in ~9–10, partially granting in ~1, and denying in ~2—all without reaching the merits.”
As to understanding the legal landscape, here is his record (AI):
Trump 1.0
Agency actions in lower courts (APA-style cases). NYU’s Institute for Policy Integrity’s full roundup shows 246 outcomes: 54 “successful” (≈22%) vs 192 “unsuccessful” (≈78%) for the administration. (“Unsuccessful” includes losses and withdrawals after suit.)
* Major rules (subset). In their newer major-rules dataset, Policy Integrity pegs the first term’s success at ~32%.
* At the Supreme Court. Independent empirical work finds Trump’s 1.0 win rate ≈43.5%—the worst for any modern president; typical modern averages are ~65%
Trump 2.0
* Adverse to the administration: Blocked (25), Temporarily blocked (79), Blocked pending appeal (20) → 124
* Favorable to the administration: Temporary block denied (39), Not blocked pending appeal (34), Case closed/dismissed for govt (7) → 80
* Mixed: 10
(Excludes “awaiting ruling” and neutral “closed” entries.) That’s roughly 58% adverse / 37% favorable / 5% mixed among acted cases so far
Based on that data, I would say Trump has an uphill battle in overturning Breyer's decision.
I had AI search for the 3 "merits" cases you reference and it came up empty. The closest was a procedural "win" for Trump in Trump v CASA, the birthright citizenship case. While a "binding" ruling was the result regarding procedure, no decision was made on the merits. What are the three cases you are thinking of?
From what I read, the number of law suits against the Trump administration from every angle is staggering, how long can he continue to swat flies, before he is finally overwhelmed? He is going to continue to push the envelope to a point of no return.
Can you imagine how much money he is wasting losing all these cases?
How many of these Cubans who had been here for years, protected by other administrations, including his own, will be killed by the Communists?
What kind of sick man does deplorable things like that?
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/02/americas … intl-latam
In a shocking moment earlier Trump vowed to send military troops into Chicago, in defiance of Governor Pritzker's request, and despite a federal judge's "Posse Comitatus Act" ruling today.
"We're going in."
Now that's some real FASCIST ENERGY
Never forget...
Trump about Kim Jong Un.
“He’s the head of a country and I mean he is the strong head,” Trump said to Fox. “Don’t let anyone think anything different. He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”
They all knew. And they like it.
He as said similar things about almost all the Dictators he admires; yet MAUGA wants him as their president - unbelievable!
Is Trump is trying to get us into a war with Venezuela so that he can use the Alien Enemies Act to try to pull off some of the deportations that he has failed to be able to do…
PUERTO RICO: Arroyo mayor says his town hasn’t see a ‘military exercise like this for a long time, it's BIG’
Trump’s moved F-35 jets and other military equipment to the island.
WHAT IS GOING ON
Does he want a war to divert attention from his failing economy and Epstein explosion? (I can't wait to see if Comer releases the "Birthday Book".
I find it odd that so many on the left seem to dwell endlessly on Trump’s every word, while largely ignoring what he has accomplished in terms of jobs and economic performance. Meanwhile, they supported a man who was frequently confused, made odd and inappropriate statements much of the time, and left the country in a mess. It strikes me as inconsistent to fixate on rhetoric while overlooking tangible accomplishments. I do know many just sum it up as TDS, but does it really go deeper than that? I mean all the "if come", the handwringing is truly a phenomenon, in my view.
"I find it odd that so many on the left seem to dwell endlessly on Trump’s every word, while largely ignoring what he has accomplished in terms of jobs and economic performance
ODD? ODD THAT THIS WOULD BE CALLED AN "ACCOMPLISHMENT"
You haven't seen the latest jobs information???
New jobs report shows dramatic slowdown in hiring:
- employers added 22K jobs in August, less than a third of what economists expected
-revised numbers for June showed employment fell by 13,000 jobs... the first loss in almost 5 years.
-78K losses in manufacturing jobs since the start of the year, as tariffs drive up costs of supplies.
-Some economists are calling this is a “no-fire” “no hire market”...so workers who have a job are frozen in place – and those who want a job are frozen out...
Just the latest sign of Trump’s failing economy. Is Fox News not covering this???
It’s odd that some call the recent economic data a “failure” when a broader look shows things are improving. You never look at the full picture, and the economy is a very diverse and complex issue, one needs to be aware of many variables to make any meaningful predictions. While the August jobs report showed only 22,000 jobs added, GDP growth in Q2 2025 was a strong 3.3% annualized, driven by increased consumer spending and decreased imports. Consumer spending itself rose 0.5% in July, the strongest gain in four months, showing households remain confident. Corporate investment is also up, with companies raising nearly $70 billion in bonds in the first week of September, indicating investor confidence. Inflation remains under control, with the Federal Reserve’s preferred PCE index rising only 2.6% year-over-year.
The unemployment rate in August 2025 was 4.3%, slightly higher than July, but this is still within the range economists consider full employment. Full employment, generally around 4–5%, does not mean zero unemployment; it accounts for frictional unemployment, which occurs as people transition between jobs, and structural unemployment, due to skill mismatches. So rather than signaling a failing economy, the unemployment rate indicates a healthy labor market.
Yes, there are challenges, manufacturing losses, rising core inflation, and a widening trade deficit, but some economists remain cautiously optimistic, projecting around 3% GDP growth for Q3. Taken together, the broader economic picture shows continued resilience and growth, suggesting that despite some headline numbers, the economy is moving in the right direction.
You just can’t choose one stat that suits a narrative; it does not offer a full view of what our economy is or which way it is headed. At any rate, I believe the economy is headed in the right direction, based on the combination of several important variables. I remain optimistic about its continued growth.
So if we look at recent economic data from late summer 2025, during the Trump administration, do we have an upward trend or a worsening trend compared to the numbers at the end of the Biden administration?? Particularly inflation, job growth, unemployment, manufacturing lost and consumer confidence numbers...
"So if we look at recent economic data from late summer 2025, during the Trump administration, do we have an upward trend or a worsening trend compared to the numbers at the end of the Biden administration?? Particularly inflation, job growth, unemployment, manufacturing lost and consumer confidence numbers..." Willow
I love stats--- they really do tell a very factual story....
Unemployment Rate:
January 2025 (Biden Administration): The unemployment rate was 4.1%, reflecting a continued recovery from the pandemic-induced economic downturn.
FactCheck.org
August 2025 (Trump Administration): The unemployment rate 4.3%, a slight rise YET remains within the range economists consider indicative of full employment (4–5%)
Inflation:
January 2025 (Biden Administration): The inflation rate was 2.9%, aligning with the Federal Reserve's target.
Wikipedia
August 2025 (Trump Administration): The inflation rate 2.7%, indicating a s
AP News
Consumer Confidence:
January 2025 (Biden Administration): Consumer confidence was relatively high, with the Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Index at 98.7.
FactCheck.org
August 2025 (Trump Administration): Consumer confidence, Conference Board's Consumer Confidence Index 97.4.
AP News
Job Growth Comparison:
2024 (Biden Administration): The U.S. economy added approximately 3 million jobs in 2024.
Wikipedia
2025 (Trump Administration): As of August 2025, the economy has added in 7 months approximately 598,000 jobs.
We see a great trend... Trump has negotiated a trade war with minute consequences. It is again clear you did not check the stats, or you would not have asked your questions.
Not sure why you would seek to see a comparison? It is clear that Trump is doing very well, and all while he pursues a tariff war. That was predicted to sink the economy.
Yes, you have clearly pointed out (although you did not directly compare the stats ending the Biden Administration to the current Trump regime). that in each category the Trump Administration is putting up numbers that are negative, trend in the wrong direction when compared to where the Biden left off.
I asked for a direct number comparison to show whether Trump has improved on Biden numbers or gone in the opposite direction....
Recent economic data from late summer 2025, during the Trump administration, indicate a worsening trend compared to the numbers at the end of the Biden administration in early 2025.
All my stats regarding Biden's administration were for his last month in office. I gave direct comparisons. If you can dispute them, do so.... There are no negative trends regarding Trump's stats, except for a seasonal low in job reports, which is common for the months that cover July and August. I gave you economic data. The stats speak for themselves... One only needs to be able to understand economic stats, as well as the norms, and lots more. You are over your head. Do some true research regarding the variables and the norms of stats. The Trump administration is doing well, and will do better after the Fed lowers rates in Sept.
Your inflation rates aren't comparable and Wiki has it slightly wrong - 2.9% does not align with the Fed's target of 2% PCE.
Anyway, the correct comparison is:
CPI: Biden 3%, Trump 2.7% (Biden's was trending down while Trump's is trending up)
PCE (what the Fed uses): Biden 2.5%, Trump 2.6% (Biden's was trending down while Trump's is trending up)
Another popular measure the Fed looks at is the Core PCE: Biden 2.6% trending down; Trump 2.9% trending up
As to Job Growth I (or rather ChatGPT) gets for Feb 2024 to Jan 2025: 1.8 million or 150,000/month for Biden
For Feb 2025 to Aug 2025: .4 million or 55,000/ month for Trump.
Now in my professional opinion:
* Inflation trending down for Biden and trending up for Trump does not scream a "great trend" to me
* Job growth stalling out does not scream "great trend" to me.
* A falling consumer confidence does not scream "great trend" to me.
In addition, losing jobs for all private sector jobs save for Leisure and Education/Health does not scream "great trend" either to me.
Finally, Trump has yet to sign a single trade deal - they are all pending.
Yes, this statistician does love stats.
Not being dismissive, yet there are many that seem to be just not informed. From:
CBS News poll finds Americans describe "uncertain" economy as its ratings tick slightly back down published by CBS News (Sept 3, 2025)
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cbs-news-p … 3-09-2025/

There are seven infographics available. The sample size of adults is 2,344. The polling was conducted by YouGov.
Gallup put out:
Trump Ratings and U.S. Mood Stay Tepid in August (Aug 26, 2025)
https://news.gallup.com/poll/694370/tru … ugust.aspx
For Aug 2025 26% peg the economy as excellent/good, 46% as fair, and 38% as poor.
Questions:
Is the media the cause for the lack of confidence of the public with the economy?
Is anecdotal evidence cause for the lack of confidence of the public with the economy?
I don't think it is as much the media as it is walking into a grocery store and buying a pound of ground beef that used to cost $5.49 a pound that is now $7.49 a pound...
January 2025 (Biden): The January jobs report, the last full month under the Biden administration, showed 143,000 jobs added...
August 2025 (Trump): Job growth has slowed significantly, with only 22,000 jobs added in August...
January 2025 (Biden): The unemployment rate decreased slightly to 4.0%.
August 2025 (Trump): The unemployment rate has risen to 4.3%.
January 2025 (Biden): Inflation was near pre-pandemic levels, close to the Federal Reserve's 2% target.
August 2025 (Trump): Core inflation (excluding food and energy) was 2.9% in the most recent report (June), with overall inflation at 2.7%....
Inflation Trends During Biden's Presidency
2021–2022: Inflation surged significantly, peaking at 9.1% in June 2022, the highest level in four decades. This spike was driven by factors such as supply chain disruptions, increased demand post-pandemic, and the economic impact of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Wikipedia
2023: Inflation began to decline, reaching 4.1% by the end of the year, still above the Federal Reserve's 2% target.
SmartAsset
2024: Inflation continued to ease, falling to 2.9% in July 2024.
WLRN
Late 2024: The Personal Consumption Expenditures (PCE) price index, the Federal Reserve's preferred inflation measure, reached 2.1% in October 2024, approaching the 2% target.
The Guardian
December 2024: The PCE index was reported at 2.9%, indicating that while inflation had decreased, it remained above the target.
When President Biden left office in January 2025, the U.S. inflation rate was as follows:
Consumer Price Index (CPI): The CPI increased by 0.5% in January 2025, leading to an annual inflation rate of 3.0%.
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Today we have 2.7% inflation
Aren't we talking about Trump's promises to lower prices immediately?
January 2025 (Biden): Manufacturing job growth remained stable with 7,000 jobs added in January and 73,000 over the past year.
August 2025 (Trump): The manufacturing sector is experiencing job losses at an "alarming pace", and is performing worse than the rest of the labor market in 2025, according to a report by the Center for American Progress.
I certainly did not argue the current jobs report. Only pointed out July and August are relatively historically low. Trump thus far for his first 7 month is very good.
If you consider "very good" as posting numbers there are less favorable than final days of the Biden Administration. He hasn't improved on Biden's ending numbers at all... Everything is going in the wrong direction.
Here, I posted this on another forum. Notice what I bolded at the bottom.
For those who care, I ask AI how the economy is doing month-by-month. Here is what it said without the details and sources:
Feb - Steady but subdued, CPI ~3%, Mfg at 50
Mar - Up, best month of the year so far
Apr - Steady, growth up, consumption down, PCE 2.2%, Retail down -.3%
May - Down, cooling, consumption soft, PCE 2.4%, Retail down -.9%
Jun - Down, weak labor, but a rebound in consumption, Lost 13k Jobs, PCE 2.6%
Jul - Steady, labor slowed, economy soft, but not collapsing, CPI 2.7%, Mfg drops to 48.7
Aug - Down, labor stalls but services steady, UE rises to 4.3%
MFG Job Loss Feb - Aug: 41,000
Construction and Mining/Logging each down about 3,000
Also down a little: Professional Services; Retail Trade; Wholesale Trade; Transportation and Warehousing; IT; Financial Activities
Up: Leisure Trade; Education and Health
Thank you. I am baffled by some of the posts here. The same people who screamed that the country was collapsing under Biden now think the economy is just fantastic when Trump's numbers are worse than Biden's last months on every measure!
I mean the man could have come in and at least kept the status quo... But NO... He's got everything going in the wrong direction.
Same thing happened the first time - Trump took Obama's stable, nicely growing economy and turned it into a stable, nicely growing economy, until the pandemic.
He also gets lots of credit for pushing Operation Warp Speed, although his current HHS Secretary thought he was an idiot for doing it. (Image, crazy Jr. actually thinks the vaccine killed more people than Covid did!)
But, just about everything else he screwed up, including his own insurrection, lol.
You're being argumentative. I added the fact I researched. And I in no respect tried to skew anything. I simply gave Biden's stats for his last year in office, which actually if you took the time would have seen were the best he had, looking at year by year. I did share as a rule, the summer months as a rule historically show the lowest numbers, as they did in Joe's last year
U.S. Nonfarm Payroll Monthly Changes – 2024 (Revised Estimates)
Based on the Richmond Fed's summary table of revised monthly nonfarm payroll growth for 2024:
Month Payroll Change (Revised, in thousands)
January +119 K
February +222 K
March +246 K
April +118 K
May +193 K
June +87 K
July +88 K
August +71 K
September +240 K
October +44 K
November +261 K
December +307 K
January +143 K
These are the revised final estimates, which may differ from the original releases. For reference, the initially published figures were generally higher; for example, January was initially reported as +256 K before later being revised down to +119 K
Trump's stats
February 2025: +102,000 jobs (as per Investing.com calendar)
YCharts
March 2025: +120,000 jobs
YCharts
April 2025: +158,000 jobs
YCharts
May 2025: +19,000 jobs
YCharts
June 2025: –13,000 jobs (job loss)
YCharts
Bureau of Labor Statistics
Reuters
The Guardian
July 2025: +79,000 jobs (revised from earlier data)
August 2025: +22,000 jobs (a sharp slowdown)
Bureau of Labor Statistics
I’ll say it again—I believe the combined statistics point to a strong economy. Honestly, I expected things to falter and thought the stock market might take a hit, yet we’ve seen a market that’s remained healthy, with inflation easing slightly into a more normal range. I feel the economy is better than I expected. I feel confident in what I see and what I read. You’ve shared your perspective, and I’ve shared mine, so I’m fine with agreeing to disagree.
I am not trying to be argumentative, instead, I am trying to understand the conclusion you reach given the facts you present. It is not just a matter of differing opinions when it is a subjective analysis - this is objective.
I would certainly like to understand how you reaching a conclusion that a 2025 economy your own data clearly shows is worse than 2024 is better than what you were expecting? I guess, one needs to know what you were expecting before drawing a conclusion.
OMG — first, the comment wasn’t directed at you, so I did not imply you were being argumentative. My comment was a reply to Willow. If you’re going to address me with accusations, provide a direct quote. The comment was clearly directed to Willow.
Second, at no point did I state or imply that the economy is better in 2025 than in 2024. I simply shared statistics from a reputable source, which showed Biden's stats slightly better than Trump's first 7 months. The job numbers lagged substantially, which was evident.
I added my own perspective, and that alone should clarify where I was coming from. If you read my full comment, the context is clear. I’ll say it again: I believe the overall combined statistics point to a good economy. As I shared, I expected things to falter and felt the stock market might even take a hit, but instead we’ve seen a market that has remained healthy, with inflation easing slightly toward a more normal range. To me, the economy is better than I anticipated.
I believe Trump is doing well, especially given that he has waged a tariff war for many months now. He has played it with good strategy, in my view. He has shown himself to be reasonable and serious in his dealings. He has only slightly rocked the boat, and he is sustaining an economy that by all rights should have been doing very poorly under a tariff war.
Maybe take some time to read the full, repetitive conversation I had with Willow. It provides the full context of my thoughts on Trump’s first seven months in office and his economy. I offered no personal view of the Biden economy in any of my posts on this thread. I am concerned with one president, and that is the current one.
"To me, the economy is better than I anticipated.
But by the numbers it's worse than Biden's economy and according to most MAGAS , The Biden economy was akin to near economic collapse. Why the change of heart?
All of the economic indicators are down since Biden left... But that's okay?
This is what I look at for an objective assessment:
* Payroll (job) growth: Running Strong in late-2024. Now, it has stalled out and all private sector categories have net job Loss, save for Leisure and Healthcare. I cannot count that as doing well, I view it as Poor.
* Unemployment Rate (U-3): Trending down through 2024 into early 2025. Now, it is on the rise. Again, that is not doing well. I view it as Poor.
* Black unemployment: Trending down going into 2025. It is now passing through 7.5%. That is objectively poor.
* Stock Market: It hit a high as Biden left office and then cratered because of Trump's tariffs. However, it has recovered and hit new highs. That is a positive sign for sure.
* Initial jobless claims were flat or low going into 2025. Now they are steadily rising. That is objectively not good.
* Job openings were looking great through June 2025, but then dropped significantly in July to where there are now more applicants than jobs available. Objectively that is very bad - but, it is only one month. So no judgement on that.
* Manufacturing Index: Was improving toward expansion and reached expansion in Jan and Feb. and it has been contracting over since. Objectively Bad.
* Manufacturing Employment Index: Same story.
* 10-year Treasury rate: Getting better coming into 2025. Now, it is back up. Objectively that is poor.
* Factory Orders: Steady or improving coming into 2025. Now, it is mixed so no judgement.
* Mortgage Rates: Getting worse going into 2025. Now, it is getting better. That is positive.
* Consumer Sentiment: Steady (if not great) going into 2025. Now, it has fallen significantly. Objectively Bad.
What is the count? 9 Bad, 2 Mixed, 2 Positive.
I don't know, it may be just me, but objectively speaking, Trump is failing in economics.
Trump is failing in every category. MAGA SURPRISED? We’re sure as hell are not surprised in the least bit. The man has been a loser is entire life...
Albeit a rich loser, lol. And he has nothing, but two failed presidencies to show for it, unlike Musk who at least did a few worthwhile things.
Rhetoric appropriate to the office POTUS? I think this is sick..
The US Open sent an email to broadcasters ordering them to censor any reactions or protests from the crowd to Trump's appearance.
WOW
https://www.benrothenberg.com/p/us-open … os-alcaraz
Censorship in practice - you are right, WOW!!!
The United States Tennis Association (USTA) has addressed the internal email instructing broadcasters to censor any negative reactions to President Donald Trump's attendance at the U.S. Open men's final. A USTA spokesperson confirmed to Front Office Sports that the email was part of the organization's standard policy to "regularly ask our broadcasters to refrain from showcasing off-court disruptions." This policy aims to maintain the focus on the sport and avoid diverting attention from the match itself. Yeah WOW
Why do you never research what you post?
The United States Tennis Association (USTA) has addressed the internal email instructing broadcasters to censor any negative reactions to President Donald Trump's attendance at the U.S. Open men's final.
A USTA spokesperson confirmed to Front Office Sports that the email was part of the organization's standard policy to "regularly ask our broadcasters to refrain from showcasing off-court disruptions." This policy aims to maintain the focus on the sport and avoid diverting attention from the match itself.
I mean, the digging is really producing slim and none. LOL
LOL when have they ever refrained from showing off Court disruptions?
He attended in 2015 and was mercilessly booed and it WAS broadcast.... Yeah, a little research goes a long way.
I asked ChatGPT why it is being reported the South Koreans are feeling betrayed by the US over the Hyundai raid. Here is the response:
Short version: many Korean workers (and Korean media/politicians) say “betrayal” because they feel the U.S. courted Korean investment and expertise for the Georgia EV megaproject—and then treated those same people as criminals in a public, mass roundup.
Here’s what’s driving that sentiment:
Courted, then cuffed. The Hyundai–LG battery complex is a flagship, U.S.-encouraged investment. After months of U.S. and Georgia officials celebrating the project, 475 workers—most Korean—were detained in the largest single-site DHS action, with images of detainees shackled and lined up that Seoul publicly called “regrettable.”
Reuters
+1
Status limbo & no charges (yet). As of the weekend, no criminal charges had been filed; South Korea says it struck a deal to release and repatriate 300+ of its nationals. Many detainees (and the employer) say they believed their paperwork allowed them to be on site, feeding a feeling of bait-and-switch.
Politico
AP News
Diplomatic whiplash. Seoul lodged formal complaints, saying the raid undermined “trust and cooperation” right after high-level meetings; Korean press amplified the “betrayal” framing. LG reportedly paused most U.S. travel for staff, underscoring the chill.
Reuters
Politics around the raid. Reports in Korean outlets say a local far-right activist boasted of “reporting” the site, stoking the narrative that Koreans were singled out, not just caught in a neutral compliance sweep.
Hani
Bottom line: From the Korean side, the sequence looks like invited partner → public humiliation and mass detention—hence “betrayal.” From DHS’s side, this was a months-long worksite probe into unauthorized employment across subcontractors, not a diplomatic snub—though the optics and rollout have clearly damaged goodwill.
marketin.edaily.co.kr
Personally, I would trust a word DHS says anymore until about a year after the next Democratic administration comes in and Makes Government Truthful Again.
AI
1. What Happened
In 2024–2025, reports came out that hundreds of South Korean workers were brought in to help build U.S. electric vehicle (EV) and battery plants.
Many entered the U.S. legally on short-term business or visitor visas.
The issue wasn’t entry—the problem was working outside the scope of their visas.
2. U.S. Law on This
Immigration and Nationality Act (INA):
Business visas (like B-1) and visitor visas (B-2) do not allow physical labor or construction work.
Doing so is considered unauthorized employment, which is a violation of immigration law.
Employer Responsibility:
U.S. companies (and contractors) must verify work authorization using Form I-9.
If they knowingly employ unauthorized workers, they can face civil fines and, in serious cases, criminal penalties.
3. What’s Known in This Case
Workers: The detained South Korean nationals were reportedly subcontractors—not direct Hyundai or LG employees.
Violation: Since they were performing construction labor on visas that did not permit it, that is a violation of U.S. immigration and labor law by both the workers and the contracting firms who hired them.
Companies: Hyundai and LG said they were investigating and distancing themselves, but federal probes are ongoing to determine whether U.S. labor or immigration laws were knowingly circumvented.
4. Did the Plant as a Whole Break the Law?
The facility itself (the Hyundai–LG project) wasn’t illegal.
What likely broke U.S. law was the visa misuse and potentially contractor hiring practices.
If investigators prove that higher-ups knew about and allowed the misuse, then corporate liability could follow under U.S. law.
✅ Bottom Line:
Yes—if South Korean nationals worked construction on visas that didn’t permit labor, that is a violation of U.S. immigration law. The bigger legal question is whether Hyundai/LG or their subcontractors knowingly enabled this. Right now, reports suggest it was subcontractors, but federal authorities are still investigating.
Do you want me to check if any charges or penalties have already been filed against Hyundai, LG, or their subcontractors? That would show how far the legal process has gone. YES
Legal Violations & Current Status
Visa Violations by Workers:
Unauthorized work: Many South Korean nationals detained at the Hyundai–LG battery plant site were reportedly working under visa categories—such as B-1 business visas or ESTA (visa waiver)—that do not permit physical labor or construction. Engaging in such work constitutes a violation of U.S. immigration law.
The Wall Street Journal
The Washington Post
Korea Joongang Daily
AP News
Actions Taken:
The operation, dubbed “Operation Low Voltage,” resulted in the detention of 475 individuals—most of whom were South Korean nationals. It follows a months-long federal criminal investigation into suspected unlawful hiring practices at the site.
The Washington Post
AP News
Georgia Recorder
The Wall Street Journal
Law enforcement executed a criminal search warrant, seeking records such as employment files, payroll documents, immigration documentation, and digital media, signaling a serious probe—not a routine administrative check.
Georgia Recorder
Spectrum News 1
Charges?
No criminal charges have yet been filed against the individuals detained or any companies involved. The investigation remains ongoing, and the identities of those responsible for the hiring remain unclear.
AP News
Spectrum News 1
Global Atlanta
Corporate Statements & Responses:
Hyundai stated that none of the detained individuals were its direct employees, while LG indicated that some detainees were either its employees or subcontractors. Both have pledged to investigate and reinforce compliance protocols among their subcontractor networks.
The Washington Post
The Wall Street Journal
VisaVerge
Korea Joongang Daily
Diplomatic and Political Fallout:
The raid marked a rare escalation in immigration enforcement at a high-profile foreign investment site, triggering diplomatic concern from South Korea and raising questions about the future of bilateral economic and trade cooperation.
The Washington Post
Financial Times
The Wall Street Journal
The Economic Times
Legal Implications
For Workers: Performing unauthorized employment under a non-work visa (such as B-1 or ESTA) is a clear violation of U.S. immigration law.
For Companies/Contractors: If the investigation finds that companies or subcontractors knowingly hired or retained unauthorized workers, they could face civil (e.g., fines) and potentially criminal penalties. However, no formal charges have been announced.
Spectrum News 1
The Wall Street Journal
The whole thing is just stupidity and buffoonery.... AND THEY BRAGGED IT TOOK A MONTH TO PLAN SUCH IDIOCY.
I was promised that hardcore criminals were going to be swept out of the country and what do I have so far? Plane loads of children and South Korean businessman.... Oh yeah and countless number of actual citizens caught up. This bunch doesn't care who they're rounding up, do they? They're just trying to hit targets.
Did you read the comment---
In 2024–2025, reports came out that hundreds of South Korean workers were brought in to help build U.S. electric vehicle (EV) and battery plants.
Many entered the U.S. legally on short-term business or visitor visas, but some did not follow the rules of their visas. I would expect our laws to be respected not only by those who cross our borders illegally, away from border crossings, to request asylum, but also by those who are here on visas to work. It seems, however, that you pick and choose which rules you expect to be followed.
Who brought the South Koreans in to work illegally to build U.S. electric vehicle (EV) and battery plants?
Was it the South Korean workers themselves? Or was it the South Korean gov't? Or was it U.S. companies who needed things built and the U.S. gov't helping them.
I suspect strongly it was the latter. So who was it that broke the law, the Koreans who believed what the American's told them or the Americans who lied to them? Again, I pick the latter.
Nobody is disagreeing with any of that. Unfortunately, that wasn't the point of my post. The first line captures it perfectly - "In 2024–2025, reports came out that hundreds of South Korean workers were brought in to help build U.S. electric vehicle (EV) and battery plants.
The bolded part is the point of my post - somebody "brought them in" and they are saying they were "betrayed" by the US asking them to come.
Do you think they were betrayed?
They were not betrayed; they did not respect the rules of their individual visas. They were supplied visas; they were expected to follow the rules of whatever visa they held. I have no interest in anything but the law regarding this issue. I will leave the emotional stuff to you. I don't want to be associated even discuss that when it comes to any legal issue. Betrayed? It was them who betrayed the rules of their visas. OMG
I feel safer already... Pure political theater. Almost everything this regime does is performative.
You really think businessman needed to be handcuffed and roughed up? There was no other way to handle this other than a stage performance? Seems to be there were actually very few of the hundreds rounded up that had any sort of violation... A lot of effort and waste of taxpayer money on total BS... The only thing missing was ice barbie in her tactical gear and weave...
Who is "they"? I would pick the people who brought them over. Doesn't that make sense?
Whoops, I forgot an "n't" as in "Personally, I wouldn't trust a word DHS says anymore"
"Immigrants spend days in ‘miserable’ ICE hold rooms, violating longstanding policy"
That is the headline from a subscriber only story about the inhumane conditions Trump keeps humans in.
I can't wait for the day when a lawful administration is returned to the White House and an honest DOJ is but back in place and a Congress dedicated to the rule of law rather than bowing down to a dictator come back. Then they can hold those ICE agents and supervisors, up to Noem, accountable for Putin like behavior.
Since Trump has made it OK to deport American citizens, maybe those found guilty of inhumanity can be deported to that El Salvador prison Trump loves so much. But wait, why wait for a trial and due process, Trump doesn't, just deport them - the Supreme Court will certainly say it is OK, or at least allow it to happen until it plays out in lower courts.
To the rest of the world, America must look disgusting and viewed in the same way Iran, North Korea, and Putin's Russia are.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/08/us/detai … hold-rooms
Trump has recently floated the idea of offering Mayor Adams and the Republican candidate in the mayoral race in NYC gov't jobs IF they would drop out of the race to help Andrew Cuomo win.
That breaks at least two different laws. But not to worry, the Supreme Court effectively put Trump above the law so there won't be any justice or accountability.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/05/new-yor … oated.html
Oh my freakin God
Trump: "Joe Biden and the Biden administration, they were mean people. What they did to people, what they did to J6, these were mean people. These were really radical, horrible people."
So what do we have here??
accountability is reframed as cruelty, and legal consequences are cast as political persecution....what the j6 rioters did to Capitol police is just conveniently never mentioned is it? Not "mean" at all LOL... How can anyone take this full seriously
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1965068712991486349
More PROOF that Trump is insane, really. He has lost all connection with reality.
One more step toward total Authoritarianism.
"Supreme Court allows Trump to continue ‘roving’ ICE patrols in California"
This is not a good country to live in at the moment. Now I know how Russians feel
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/08/politics … california
I guess this is the right place for this article
"Top Trump economic officials almost come to blows at exclusive MAGA club, source says"
I wonder if Trump was on the sidelines screaming Punch Him, Punch Him
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/08/politics … ump-dinner
Another AUTHORITARIAN move to suppress speech - Trump sues NYT.
While the WSJ suit might make it past the first hearing (or would have if the Birthday Book had remained hidden), this one should be thrown out as soon as the judge sees it adding to the long list of Trump's courtroom failures.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/media/tr … -times-hnk
I don't know about this; as far as I have been able to determine the only possible reason to release those papers is to provide some small home they can find some small item to embarrass the President.
Is there any other reason, or is this just more witch hunt about Trump?
I mean, why else? In my own view, many public figures would be embarrassed, and we would most likely be left with egg on our faces for some we supported and voted for. Just makes me wonder if many have considered that.
If you are talking about the Epstein papers, how about Justice for all the girls Epstein and his friends raped?
Why should the perpetrators get away with their crimes???
Because releasing the papers to the public will NOT provide any evidence not already known and thus will NOT help catch perps. Unless you think mob rule is the way to treat those accused, but not convicted, of a crime?
I see you have had a private viewing of what DOJ has. Nice.
Really? You believe that the papers from the Grand Jury contain evidence that the DOJ has not seen?
Curious. Very curious.
What has the papers from the Grand Jury have to do with anything/ Is that a dodge or do you believe that is 100% of the information DOJ has?
That's all I've heard demands for. The Grand Jury papers.
But you answered your own question ("the information DOJ has") - the DOJ has already seen them and knows what is in them.
That is what you miss when you don't read CNN. Everybody in the world has been demanding all the files, from MAGA to Liberals.
Did they miss all the times that Vance called for the release of the files before he became a sycophant? Lol . Same with Bongino and Patel. Bongino made an actual living on a podcast almost solely devoted to the release of the Epstein files...my God
They simply put their blinders on so they can't see the TRUTH.
"Because releasing the papers to the public will NOT provide any evidence not already known "
Says who?
Says the person who knows it all, whether it is right or not.
What? You think whoever has them doesn't know what is in them? And if it is the DOJ, then just who are you demanding release them?
Pam has the file.. remember? it's on her desk. The Administration tasked FBI agents to sort through them, redacting Trump's name... She then told Trump his name appeared many times. I think some have forgotten that it has been the maga crowd, led by bongino and Patel who have absolutely screamed over the past years for these files to be released... Even Vance, on multiple occasions said they need to be released... They've all done in about face now haven't they?
Ah. Then the DOJ does know what is in them, and if illegal actions would already be prosecuting if possible.
Again, what is the purpose behind making it all public? Beyond embarrassing Trump, that is?
Justice for the victims - but Trump and his "b...." Bondi won't let them have it.
I sure hope they start dropping names in the future.
How about an American citizen? Oh, I forgot, in Trump's America, citizens have no rights.
All citizens have unlimited right to know details of everyone's life?
SCOTUS would disagree with that thought.
Trump threatens to "go after" reporter, suggesting critical coverage could be hate speech"
An AUTHORITARIAN move if I ever saw one. Didn't Kirk say Hate Speech was protected? Why is Trump calling Kirk a liar?
(BTW, ABC (cowards) because it would cost less than pursuing a won case.)
President Donald Trump suggested today that his administration might seek to prosecute journalists who he believes have been unfair to him, telling an ABC reporter “maybe they’ll have to go after you.”
“You have a lot of hate in your heart,” Trump told an ABC reporter in response to a question about Attorney General Pam Bondi’s assertion this week that “hate speech” could be treated as a crime. “Maybe they’ll have to go after you.”
The president referenced a $16 million payment that ABC made earlier this year to settle a defamation lawsuit he had brought against the administration, calling it an example of a news outlet being penalized for “a form of hate speech.”
Trump has since sued multiple other outlets in response to critical coverage, most recently filing a lawsuit against The New York Times on Monday that accuses the newspaper of being a “virtual mouthpiece” for the Democratic Party and seeks $15 billion in damages.
“We want everything to be fair,” Trump said. “It hasn’t been fair.”
WHAT A LIAR TRUMP IS.
"Trump says US has "knocked off" three boats from Venezuela"
Spoken like the true AUTHORITARIAN mob boss he is. It is just baffling how MAUGA and the Trump apologists here can look in the mirror when they say this criminal is their hero.
President Donald Trump said the US military has targeted three boats that he claimed were transporting drugs from Venezuela.
The US struck a boat that the government says was tied to the gang Tren de Aragua on September 2, killing 11 people. Trump announced a second strike against alleged “narcoterrorists,” which the administration says killed three people, on Truth Social on Monday.
But speaking to reporters outside of the White House Tuesday, Trump said: “We knocked off three boats, actually, not two. But you saw two.”
CNN has reached out to the White House about the third boat. CNN has also reached out to the Venezuelan government.
Asked about concerns from Venezuela’s leader about continued US strikes, Trump responded: “Well I would say this: right away, stop sending Tren de Aragua into the United States. Stop sending drugs into the United States.”
Trump later said: “And the problem is there are very few boats out on the water. There are not a lot of boats out on the water. I can’t imagine why. Not even fishing boats.”
More AUTHORITARIAN new - "Trump and his advisers plan for crackdown on left-wing groups, channeling anger over Charlie Kirk’s killing"
I guess Trump wanted to come up with some FAKE groups on the Left to counterbalance all those KNOWN groups who are domestic terrorist from the Right.
Don't get distracted.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/15/politics … terrorists
Pam Bondi is going after Trump's HATE speech!!!
Yep, she said she is going to investigate people using hate speech. Well, we know Trump is one of the biggest offenders.
"Attorney General Pam Bondi provoked a broad backlash this week after announcing she would “absolutely target” protesters engaging in “hate speech” — and claiming she had authority to investigate businesses that refused to print memorial vigil posters for the conservative activist Charlie Kirk."
Trump is also one of the biggest protesters of them all as well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/16/us/p … -kirk.html
NEW YORK (Reuters) -Liberal U.S. Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor, in remarks made at a time when Donald Trump is seeking to exert expansive executive powers, emphasized the need for Americans to know the difference between a president and a king as she spoke on Tuesday about how to improve civics education.
Addressing an audience of law students, judges and others at New York Law School in Manhattan, Sotomayor raised concerns about gaps in knowledge among Americans about democratic institutions, individual rights and the rule of law.
"Do we understand what the difference is between a king and a president?" Sotomayor asked.
"I think if people understood these things from the beginning they would be more informed as to what would be important in a democracy in terms of what people can or should not do," Sotomayor added.
Trump, since returning to office in January, has tested legal boundaries in pursuing numerous unilateral actions to reshape the federal government, crack down on immigration, end diversity programs, target perceived enemies and impose sweeping tariffs.
Sotomayor is one of the three liberal justices on a court that has a 6-3 conservative majority. She has frequently dissented in recent months as the court has sided with Trump's administration in almost every case it has been called upon to review, allowing his policies to proceed while legal challenges to them continue.
She did not mention Trump by name during her appearance. But her comments echoed a warning she issued in a dissent last year from the court's landmark ruling in favor of Trump that declared for the first time that presidents are immune from prosecution for official acts while in office.
That ruling was issued as Trump challenged a federal criminal case against him for his efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss. The court's conservative justices were in the majority and its liberal members in dissent.
"The relationship between the president and the people he serves has shifted irrevocably. In every use of official power, the president is now a king above the law," Sotomayor wrote in her dissent.
Some protests against Trump's policies this year have embraced the slogan "No Kings."
Trump's far-reaching executive actions have provoked tension with the judiciary. Judges who have impeded his policies have been the target of harsh criticism from the president and his allies who have questioned their authority.
I'm not at all sure that I would take legal advice from someone that does not understand the difference between a judge and a legislator.
You mean like Thomas and Alito? I guess you do.
You may know the difference, I may know the difference, normal Americans may know the difference, but that still leaves 30 million who don't.
From the NY ICE raid.
This is exactly what a bad AUTHORITARIAN despot does to its people.
"The case described by attorney Jose Perez was that one of his clients — a Guatemalan man with three U.S. citizen children and a U.S. citizen spouse, and with a pending immigration case — was apprehended during the raid and deported to Guatemala within roughly 48 hours. Perez emphasized that this happened even though the man had been regularly checking in with ICE and had paperwork pending, which is why he highlighted it as evidence that the government was not giving detainees due process or respecting valid documentation."
When responsible, patriotic people get back in charge, the people responsible for this abomination need to be investigated, charged, tried, and found guilty (so that they got the dur process they denied others) AND, since Trump paved the way for deporting Americans, deported to Iraq.
I forgot one authoritarian look-a-like to Trump - Viktor Orbán of Hungary.
"Trump’s anti-media blitz that led to Kimmel’s suspension is straight from a European strongman’s playbook"
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/18/media/tr … an-hungary
As somebody said on another forum - SILENCE IS AGREEMENT.
I guess the Right has finally come to understand that Trump is a true Authoritarian.
Trump brings his xenophobia to Windsor Castle by toasting "English-Speakers"
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/politics … peech-vrtc
You would rather that he give a toast to those speaking Tibetan? Or perhaps Laos?
Who do you THINK he should be toasting, while guest of the English speaking King of England?
No. Obviously he should not have been xenophobic to start with? Why didn't he give a toast to England or, if just had to use the word english at all, toast the English people or the British?
Instead, he insulted them by toasting others besides England. He also insulted Wales by excluding them since Welsh their preferred language and co-equal language along with English.
The same is true as he insulted Scotland and Northern Ireland, both officially recognize other languages in addition to English.
OH, then how about all these other large groups of people who are citizens of England who have English as a second language?
Polish – the largest non-native language group.
Punjabi
Urdu
Bengali (including Sylheti and Chatgaya)
Gujarati
Arabic
Portuguese
Spanish
Turkish
French
There are also sizeable speakers of:
Chinese languages (Mandarin, Cantonese)
Romanian, Lithuanian, Slovak, and Hungarian (reflecting newer EU migration patterns).
Refugee and asylum communities also contribute languages like Kurdish, Somali, and Farsi (Persian).
Trump is pretty dumb or just loves insulting people.

Fox better watch it... They're going to catch the wrath of dear leader...
Will Trump pull their broadcasting license as well?
I wonder if that same poll had 35% Better in previous polls. If so, that means he is losing his MAUGA base.
Trump is expected to fire the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia after his office was unable to find incriminating evidence of mortgage fraud against New York Attorney General Letitia James....
His Lisa Cook case has also been blown out of the water. What a NASTY man...
Ordering people to prosecute your enemies even though they have not committed any crime sounds kind of fascist to me....
He learned well and he learned fast from the Democrats, didn't he? I suppose being the object of just that kind of thing might have that effect, right?
Well first of all I don't buy the premise that trump was unfairly prosecuted....BUT if I see that my neighbor is getting away with bank fraud, I have enough sense to understand I shouldn't follow their example LOL...are you saying Trump has no sense??? He's just that susceptible and impressionable? That I can buy... What you describe then is a weak character.
I bet he will claim Al Capone was unfairly prosecuted as well.
People tend to pick up the worst from others, particularly when it causes harm to themselves. They learn to "fight".
It doesn't matter whether YOU buy the premise or not. Trump and millions of others find it true...and repeat it. While you whine that "I don't buy it".
No. that is a totally right-wing MO. Since you provided no proof of your claim, it is not true.
Ah. It cannot be true because I offered no proof satisfactory to you.
Your brand of logic is severely out of whack with reality.
Well, I am not sure it is necessarily fascist, that is a hallmark of communist as well. Maybe we should start labeling Trump a Fascist-Communist to cover all the bases of what he is.
For sure, what it is a hallmark of is a committed DICTATOR.
"Judge rejects Trump’s New York Times lawsuit for being ‘decidedly improper and impermissible’"
Boy, they slapped that down much faster than I thought they would.
"In a ruling dripping with derision, a federal judge has rejected President Trump’s defamation lawsuit against The New York Times, asserting that the rambling 85-page suit did not follow federal rules for filing civil complaints." - But why should Trump follow the rules? HE NEVER DOES.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/media/tr … d-merryday
Thanks to the Supreme Court, if you are MAGA and Hispanic looking, you need to carry your passport or birth certificate with you AT ALL TIMES or ICE will get you.
"But that changed last week, when the Supreme Court cleared the way for a person’s ethnicity to be at least a partial factor behind immigration stops by law enforcement. “Now I have to carry it all the time,” he says."
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics … -profiling
Gassing mayors and pushing down women while hiding behind face coverings - these Jack Boots have learned well from their Russian teachers.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/us/ice-c … -broadview
You know, through all this back and forth you have yet to attempt to answer the question of "why". Why is it so important to make them public.
Care to go back a dozen or so comments and actually reply and answer?
I stand tall with Congressional Representative Ilhan Omar of Minnesota. It is sort of dumb of Trump to think that a representative of Congress can be impeached or that as an American citizen, she can be deported. Such a stupid man, lacking such basic knowledge of civics.
I say, Never surrender, never capitulate before a tyrannical enemy. I cannot spare this lady, she fights. She is right, as of now the country is virtually being run by “idiots”. Republicans most assuredly qualify…..
.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAomnRoe3AY
Gosh Cred... I ask as I did the same about Charlie Kirk --- do you follow her, what she has said, stands for, what she has voted for-- do you know her well enough to stand behind just a statement?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilhan_Oma … _positions
Sharlee, Visiting her biography site, i agree with probably 90percent of her positions regarding domestic and foreign policy. I dont necessarily “follow” her, but my political sentiments align with hers to a far greater degree than that of Charlie Kirk.
You forget, Credence, Trump DOES deport American citizens, often children.
There is no doubt that he would cross that line, but even Trump would find that difficult to accomplish and keep out from the public eye. But i would have to ask if most Americans would even care?
Because Trump is hiding data from the American People, it is hard to be 101% certain - but here is what we do know which is good enough for me.
There’s solid evidence that during Trump’s first term ICE wrongly detained U.S. citizens and that some U.S. citizens were in fact removed (deported) in error—though government data track them as “potential U.S. citizens,” so the official count is fuzzy.
What we know from credible sources
* The Government Accountability Office (GAO) found that from FY2015–Q2 FY2020 (a period that includes most of Trump’s first term), ICE arrested 674, detained 121, and removed 70 “potential U.S. citizens.” GAO criticized ICE’s data quality but flagged these as removals of people who may have been citizens.
Government Accountability Office
* Independent researchers and litigation have documented confirmed cases of U.S. citizens deported (in various years and administrations). For example, Northwestern University’s Deportation Research Clinic highlights U.S. citizen Andres Robles, who was deported to Mexico and later returned and won a settlement.
deportation-research.buffett.northwestern.edu
* Multiple investigations show ICE has repeatedly misidentified citizens as removable and held them—including high-profile Trump-era detentions like Texas-born Francisco Galicia (detained 23 days; not deported).
The Texas Tribune
+1
Bottom line:
Wrongful detention of citizens under Trump is well-documented.
Wrongful removals of citizens almost certainly occurred during the period that includes Trump’s first term, per GAO’s 70 “potential U.S. citizens removed” figure, though ICE’s records make it hard to pin an exact, confirmed subtotal strictly to the Trump years.
Government Accountability Office
Now for 2025
Short answer: there’s credible evidence and litigation alleging it happened in 2025, but DHS flatly denies it. Two different questions are getting mixed together:
1) U.S.-citizen children
Advocates’ claim: In late April 2025, the ACLU and partner groups said ICE deported two families that included three U.S.-citizen kids (ages 2, 4, 7) from the New Orleans field office, and they sued. Regional and national outlets covered the case; one child was reported to have stage-four kidney cancer.
American Civil Liberties Union
+2
The Guardian
+2
PBS NewsHour reported on April 28 that at least seven U.S.-citizen children had been deported with their parents “so far” under the new administration (i.e., in 2025).
PBS
DHS rebuttal: DHS posted two “fact check” notices (Apr. 29–30) insisting “DHS is NOT deporting American children,” claiming the cited cases involved parents choosing to take their U.S.-citizen kids when the parent was removed.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
+1
Where that leaves us: The fact pattern is contested. Advocates say ICE forcibly removed citizen children; DHS says parents elected to take them. The courts will sort out the specifics in the Louisiana lawsuit.
2) U.S.-citizen adults
There is fresh 2025 evidence of wrongful removals/detentions, though not all are citizens. The most public example is Kilmar Abrego Garcia—a non-citizen wrongfully deported to El Salvador in March and later flown back to face charges; his case shows removals happening in error.
ABC News
+2
Reuters
+2
Separately, several members of Congress said in August 2025 that the number of U.S. citizens detained, arrested, and deported has “skyrocketed,” and they demanded an investigation; they did not publish a hard count.
Congressman Daniel Goldman
Historically, the GAO has documented removals of “potential U.S. citizens” (a category that likely includes some actual citizens), so accidental citizen removals are a known risk, even if DHS disputes current claims. (Context from GAO; not specific to 2025.)
Bottom line (2025):
Yes, there are credible reports and a pending lawsuit alleging U.S.-citizen children were deported this year; DHS says that’s false and that parents chose to take the kids.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security
+3
American Civil Liberties Union
+3
The Guardian
+3
For citizen adults, we have strong indications of wrongful detentions and a history of some wrongful removals; 2025-specific counts are not yet verified publicly, and DHS has not conceded any citizen deportations.
Congressman Daniel Goldman
California bans ICE agents from wearing masks while on duty. Thank God for a blow for freedom.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/22/politics … ntd-digvid
Trump doubled down Monday on his threat to send Attorney General Pam Bondi after his political enemies.
Speaking to the press on Air Force One, Trump was asked whom he wanted Attorney General Pam Bondi to “focus” on prosecuting....
Everybody, really,” Trump said.
“There are a lot of crooked people that were here before me. And people that almost destroyed our country,” he said. “If I didn’t win this election, our country would be destroyed.”
Remember Pam speaking during her confirmation hearing?
Saying that the Department of Justice would never have an enemies list?
Her exact words...
"No one will be prosecuted, investigated because they are a political opponent".
Is she going to act on Trump's orders to prosecute his opponents or will she be fired? Note, these cases will be absolutely DOA based upon Trump's truth social post... Quite a gift to any defense. So she is in quite the precarious situation.
What has Trump got against Children? Why is he so intent on making their lives miserable, making the sick, and probably killing a bunch of them in the future? What a horrible, horrible man (yet MAGA will defend him to the death - one that he may cause as well).
Why am I saying these very true things? First, it was the headlines in his first term about ripping kids out of the arms of their parents so as to dissuade other parents from crossing the border. (Thank God Biden stopped that decrepit policy!)
Then it was yesterday's disaster of a news conference about autism, where Trump didn't say one true thing about the core health concerns, and announced 1) pregnant mothers should stop taking Tylenol when in severe pain thereby endangering the health of their fetuses and 2) increasing childhood diseases by changing their vaccine schedules.
And this morning, I read this headline:
"‘Are Mom and Dad not coming home?’: American kids left stranded when ICE takes their parents"
MY GOD, why do you keep defending this monster?????
https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/23/politics … d-ice-invs
Trump has never displayed the characteristic of empathy, only hate, greed and narcissism. And that was on clear display at the Kirk "memorial" which he shamelessly used for political purposes. He doesn't seem to have the ability to think of anyone but himself.
Trump appointed RFK Jr. to that job. In his twisted mind, he has to support him or he will look bad to his base. It's the same as when he knew Covid was lethal, He didn't want the public to know about it, because it would make him look bad. He will sacrifice pregnant women and their pain to make himself look good.
“Don’t take Tylenol. Fight like hell not to take it.” “If you can’t tough it out, if you can’t do it, that’s what you’re gonna have to do. You’ll take a Tylenol, but it’ll be very sparingly ... I think you shouldn’t take it.”
I'm anxiously awaiting the reaction from the maker of Tylenol...
Trump embarrassing himself on the world stage in front of the UN....
I think it's obvious that Steven "baby Goebbels" wrote the screed...
Ugly, hateful, a speech filled with lies...
Sept 22, 2025
As of September 22, 2025, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has initiated a label change for acetaminophen (Tylenol) to reflect evidence suggesting a possible association between its use during pregnancy and an increased risk of neurological conditions such as autism and ADHD in children. This decision follows emerging studies from institutions like Mount Sinai, Harvard, and Johns Hopkins, which have observed correlations between prenatal acetaminophen use and these conditions. However, it's important to note that a causal relationship has not been established, and some studies have found no such association. Thank you RFK
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-a … hatgpt.com
Since so many people take acetaminophen, couldn't we potentially link it to anything and everything??
But what came first? didn't autism exist before Tylenol came to market?
Just sharing what’s currently being reported by the FDA. Ultimately, it’s up to each individual to decide what they put into their body. It’s always wise to consider as many scientific facts as possible. If I were pregnant, after doing some reading, I personally wouldn’t take it, nine months isn’t a lifetime. But I’m sure in our society, many would stubbornly stamp their little feet and say, “I’ll take it because Trump said not to.” I see that kind of mindset all the time: “Cut my nose off, I’ll glue it back on.
Interesting that they are ignoring least some portion of the increase in autism prevalence is due to an increase in autism risk factors... Take, for example, air pollution, which has been credibly linked to autism in a number of studies...but nah let's zero in on Tylenol...
Not sure your analogy matches my mindset. I would think it’s a great idea to zero in on all potential causes of autism and address them wherever possible. But you seem to suggest that one approach should be considered while another should not, and I don’t share that view.
Countries with very low levels of air pollution can still have high rates of autism diagnoses. For example, Denmark and Vancouver, Canada, are known for their relatively clean air quality, yet they report rising autism rates.
In my view, taking Tylenol can be directly controlled by immediate action—simply by choosing not to take it for nine months. Air pollution, on the other hand, cannot be fully controlled by a mother, aside from doing everything possible to minimize exposure, and doing her part to decrease air pollution..
So, looking at the cup half full, I know I would prefer having control over Tylenol use rather than adopting the attitude of, “Why not take Tylenol? I’m exposed to air pollution anyway."
You say "nah", I say ahaha—I’d rather use my brain and avoid taking Tylenol.
The most up-to-date, comprehensive and conclusive science does not agree with the Tylenol link...
RFK Jr. Announces FDA Will Approve Leucovorin, a New Treatment for Autism. What Is It?...
Well I can tell you where you can buy it.. On Dr Oz's site "iherb"....
THE GRIFT NEVER ENDS
No, leucovorin cannot be purchased over the counter; it is a prescription-only medication in the United States and most other countries. Not sure what you mean Dr. Oz is selling it.
My research -- "Yes, Dr. Mehmet Oz's supplement company, iHerb, sells folinic acid products, which include leucovorin (also known as folinic acid). These supplements are marketed for various health purposes, including supporting cellular health and methylation. However, it's important to note that these are not the prescription form of leucovorin approved by the FDA for medical treatments."
Yes, folinic acid (leucovorin) is a naturally occurring form of folate found in certain foods, though usually in small amounts. However, the folate you get from food is not the same as the prescription drug approved by the FDA. The FDA-approved leucovorin comes in measured, pharmaceutical-grade doses that are carefully formulated to treat specific medical conditions, like folate-deficiency anemia, protection during chemotherapy, or cerebral folate deficiency in children. The amount in food is far too small to achieve the therapeutic effect needed for these conditions, and the prescription form ensures purity, proper dosing, and safety under medical supervision, which cannot be guaranteed from dietary sources alone.
"No, the FDA is not promoting non-prescription folinic acid as a treatment for autism. The FDA has approved prescription leucovorin for a specific medical condition known as cerebral folate deficiency (CFD), which can present with neuropsychiatric symptoms, including those related to autism. This approval is based on patient-level data from over 40 individuals demonstrating the drug's effectiveness in improving CFD symptoms," Reuters
I think there is more of a chance of having an autistic child from smoking pot than taking Tylenol.
I have three nieces who have autistic children and I know they all used pot during their pregnancies.
There is emerging evidence suggesting a possible link between prenatal cannabis use and increased risk of autism spectrum disorder (ASD), though the science is still evolving and not yet conclusive.
Key Findings from Recent Research
JAMA Network Study (2023) A large-scale study involving over 178,000 parent-infant pairs found that:
Maternal cannabis use during pregnancy was associated with a higher risk of ASD in children.
The risk increased with frequency of use, and was adjusted for other factors like alcohol, nicotine, and mental health conditions.
Autism Research Institute Review Researchers found that THC exposure in rhesus macaques altered fetal and placental DNA methylation—affecting genes linked to neurodevelopmental disorders including autism.
Nature Medicine Study (2020) This study reported that mothers who used marijuana during pregnancy had a 50% higher likelihood of having a child diagnosed with autism.
ASD incidence was 4 per 1000 person-years among exposed children vs. 2.42 among unexposed.
What Experts Say
Mechanism: THC may interfere with fetal brain development by altering gene expression and neurotransmitter systems.
Timing Matters: Use during the first trimester, when neural development is most sensitive, may pose greater risks.
Confounding Factors: Many studies adjust for socioeconomic status, other substance use, and maternal health—but residual confounding remains a challenge.
Bottom Line
While causation has not been definitively proven, the association is strong enough that most medical bodies—including the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists—advise against cannabis use during pregnancy.
I think it’s important to put this into perspective and consider the science carefully. First, your observation about your nieces is all I need to say; I am convinced. Thus far, science seems to report that findings point to autism having multiple contributing factors, including genetics, environment, and prenatal health.
I get what you’re saying about cannabis, and there is research suggesting a possible link between prenatal cannabis use and autism. For example, a Harvard study found that maternal cannabis use disorder was associated with a higher risk of ASD in children, and other studies, like one from JAMA and the ECHO cohort, have explored the connection too. But it’s worth noting that some large studies, including one from Kaiser Permanente, didn’t find a strong link once they adjusted for other factors like maternal health, alcohol, and tobacco use. So the science is still evolving and far from conclusive. But worthy of mention, information, in my view, is so important.
At the same time, there’s also research on Tylenol (acetaminophen). Interestingly, a Harvard-affiliated study and other large-scale studies have found that regular or high-dose use during pregnancy may increase the risk of autism or ADHD traits in children. It’s not huge, but it’s there, which makes sense given how widely Tylenol is used.
The takeaway? Both substances have potential risks, but the evidence doesn’t clearly show that cannabis is “more dangerous” than Tylenol in this context. Autism is complex and can also be influenced by genetics, advanced parental age, premature birth, low birth weight, exposure to environmental toxins, and even certain infections during pregnancy. Most doctors would agree: it’s safest to avoid both cannabis and unnecessary medication during pregnancy if you can, or at least use Tylenol only when absolutely needed and at the recommended doses.
My point in all this is that a woman can weigh whether it’s worth avoiding Tylenol for nine months, simply out of respect for the fact that studies, no matter how small, have found a potential link. Having information on all the possible contributing factors should be seen as a positive thing for any woman who chooses to research the issue.
How do you respond to the swedish study?
Key findings from the study include:
Large-scale analysis: Researchers analyzed data from nearly 2.5 million children born in Sweden between 1995 and 2019, including 185,909 whose mothers used acetaminophen during pregnancy.
Sibling comparison: The study's most critical component was a comparison of siblings, one of whom was exposed to acetaminophen in the womb and one who was not. This method helped control for genetic factors and shared environmental influences.
Initial vs. sibling results: When comparing all children, a very small statistical association was initially observed. However, when the more accurate sibling comparison was performed, this association completely disappeared.
The findings support the consensus among major medical organizations, such as the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, that acetaminophen remains the safest pain and fever relief option for pregnant women. Untreated fever and pain can pose greater health risks to both the mother and the fetus. ....
Seems as though Bobby may do more damage than good with this... So we're going to have a good number of women shunning Tylenol because Bobby thinks it's a good idea for some reason....
Yes, it may be one of the causes, and can you imagine how the leftists would fuss if that were the next thing that was fought against?
Some small, non-randomized studies have shown that leucovorin may help improve speech and communication skills in some children with CFD.... Again, why are they doing this??? This is ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine all over again...
Thank you, I have done my own research on this issue, and shared some of what I know personally about the drug. Nothing more to share.
I find no correlation in your analogy. We actually have studies on leucovorin showing how it can help with symptoms of autism. By contrast, Ivermectin—an antiparasitic with some noted anti-inflammatory effects used for conditions like river blindness, pinworms, and scabies, and hydroxychloroquine, an anti-inflammatory drug commonly prescribed for lupus and rheumatoid arthritis, had no solid studies supporting their use against COVID. Some doctors speculated that, because of their anti-inflammatory properties, these drugs might help with the inflammation seen in COVID, but those ideas were never confirmed by rigorous research. The evidence-based simply isn’t the same as what we have with leucovorin and autism. I am not reposting studies; they satisfied me with the findings.
There’s been a lot of discussion lately about the drug leucovorin, and my career as a nurse has given me extensive familiarity with its uses. I am appreciative to hear it is now FDA approved for use for Autism.
In my own career, I have become well acquainted with leucovorin and its uses. It is most often used in cancer treatments to protect healthy cells during chemotherapy, to treat specific types of anemia caused by folate deficiency from chemo, and to help children with cerebral folate deficiency, which sometimes occurs in autism. It’s not a new drug; leucovorin has been safely used for over 60 years, originally to treat folate-deficiency anemia. It is generally considered a low-risk medication when used under medical supervision, with side effects ranging from none to mild. I might add, and won’t take the time to cite studies here, that research has shown it can help with symptoms related to autism, and in fact, it has been part of treatment approaches for some time now. Again, I think bringing its benefits to the general public is simply to offer those who do research information to consider what it can and cannot offer. I feel an educated, well-informed society is a positive. This drug is prescribed by a physician, so anyone interested in taking it or giving it to their autistic child would need to speak with their physician.
Leucovorin (folinic acid) was first approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on June 20, 1952. Initially, it was approved as a racemic mixture of d- and l-isomers (d,l-leucovorin) for use in treating folate-deficiency anemia and as a rescue agent following high-dose methotrexate chemotherapy.
Hemonc
In 2008, the FDA approved a more refined version known as levoleucovorin (brand names Fusilev and Khapzory), which contains only the l-isomer and is used in similar clinical settings.
Drugs.com
Most recently, on September 22, 2025, the FDA approved leucovorin for the treatment of cerebral folate deficiency (CFD), a rare metabolic disorder that can present with neuropsychiatric symptoms, including those related to autism.
Reuters
This latest approval, in my view, marks a significant expansion of leucovorin's clinical applications, building upon its longstanding history of safe and effective use in various medical contexts.
What's going on there in New York. Wow! what a friendly city!!! The President of France has to walk for 30 minutes because his car is not allowed to cross the street.
What a complete inhospitable country!! No wonder tourism went in a negative spiral the moment Trump took office. Have some respect for presidents of other countries!
This is to bizarre to imagine! I wouldn't have believed it, if I hadn't seen the footage!!!
BREAKING: Oregon & Portland just sued Trump to block his order sending federal troops into the city.
The plaintiffs call the deployment “patently unlawful” and say it violates the U.S. Constitution and the Posse Comitatus Act...
Americans don’t give a damn about 24K gold in the Oval Office at taxpayer expense. They care about putting food on the table and having healthcare.
He's turning the oval office into freaking Saddam Hussein's palace..LUNATIC LOW IQ INDIVIDUAL
You might be struggling to afford groceries, or a house or healthcare, but take solace that the highest quality 24 karat gold festoons the Oval and all the foreign leaders bow down to Trump when they see it...gross.
Trump just shared this video about Adam Schiff.
Make no mistake about it, federal judges will see right through this and see that he’s targeting his political enemies. He’s hampering any of his fake prosecutions by posting his crap...he has the mentality of a 12-year-old . He is an embarrassment.
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1972446022350815680
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