Trump The AUTHORITARIAN

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Good morning and Happy Monday to everyone who agrees that, with Americans struggling to buy groceries because of trump's tariffs, it is obscene for him to be posting videos flaunting his gold Oval Office decor.
   
   "Let them eat gilded cake."
   Clueless FASCIST jackass.

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      Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      He is such a shallow and witless man….

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Tell me more about FASCISM  what kind of mental gymnastics need to take place in the maga mind to make this okay?? Lol... OLYMPIC LEVEL
   
   

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Trump: "I'm gonna be meeting with generals and admirals and with leaders, and if I don't like somebody, I'm gonna fire them right on the spot."
   
   Grandpa is getting worse by the day...
   
   https://x.com/atrupar/status/1973010373407027326

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      My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      I tried to listen to him but had to turn it off - it was embarrassing and showing more signs of dementia every day - but they will say he does it energetically (except today where it sounded like he was falling asleep.)

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         Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         I know!  It was so bad.  Probably one of the worst I've ever seen. So much rambling incoherently and absolutely no energy at all.

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   My Esotericposted 2 months ago

   Trump suggested that the military use “dangerous cities as training grounds.”
   
   Can you imagine how ever Federalist and anti-Federalist is turning in their graves right as Trump sets fire to their great experiment. They must loath him.

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      It's almost as if he is declaring war on Democrats, isn't it??

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         My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

         More than that - any person who is not MAUGA and that includes people like Liz Cheney.

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            Credence2posted 2 months agoin reply to this

            Nice to have you back, ESO

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               My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

               Thanks. I think the moderators have clearly shown they are MAGA adjacent as what I write like a stroll through the park compared to the insults and lies the other produce.

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Oh this aged well ..
   
   

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Kamala Harris was right about everything...yet she was mocked. 
   
   https://x.com/KamalaHarris/status/1846674863085211966

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      My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      This needs to be repeated often along with his words yesterday saying he is going to do just that.
      
      "Donald Trump has stated that one of the biggest threats America faces is “the enemy from within.” He has said that as president, he would use our military to go after those who don’t support him.
      
      Use the American military to go after American citizens? Let that sink in."
      
      On Tuesday, Trump said this to an auditorium of Generals and Admirals that "“Last month, I signed an executive order to provide training for quick reaction force that can help quell civil disturbances. This is gonna be a big thing for the people in this room, because it’s the enemy from within and we have to handle it before it gets out of control.”"
      
      Pure Hitler speak (or Kim Jung Un or Maduro or Hussein or Putin or Pick Your Depot that Trump admires).

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   My Esotericposted 2 months ago

   The Military Takeover of America continues right under our noses.
   
   "Hundreds of federal law enforcement officers deployed to Memphis amid new safety task force"
   
   https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/01/us/memph … -bondi-hnk

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      peoplepower73posted 2 months agoin reply to this

      During Trump's first term, I bought a book Titled How Fascism Works.  This morning, I read the epilogue. What I learned is that Fascism works best when there is an Us and Them mentality created and by using radical ideas that overtime become normalized.
      
      Once those become normalized then new us and them ideas are added until the population either accepts them or they become saturated and just ignore them,
      
      That's what Trump did in his first term and now he is becoming even more Fascist with deploying Troops to democratic cities for training purposes. He now expects the population to accept this as being normal. Stay tuned I think this is just the beginning, Indifference is much worse than having an opinion. That's what happened in Nazi Germany,

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   IslandBitesposted 2 months ago

   “I fear President Trump believes the American people are so divided that today they will not stand up, fight for, and defend our most precious constitutional values so long as they are lulled into thinking their own personal interests are not affected.
   
   Is he correct?”
   
   -Reagan appointee U.S. District Judge William Young
   
   161-page, the most crucial he’s delivered in his 30 years on the bench

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      Willowarborposted 2 months agoin reply to this

      An opinion for the ages.  It also highlights the frustration the judiciary has with this Administration...calling out Trump's as orchestrating a "full-throated assault on the First Amendment".
      
      This man is probably getting doxed and threats like crazy....most MAGAS won't care because he spoke ill of dear leader and a good number of them will turn a blind eye.

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   Willowarborposted 2 months ago

   Which side do you choose maga? 
   
   Bullshit barbie/trump or the Pope?
   
   "Leavitt said she disagrees with the Pope's criticism of "inhumane treatment of immigrants" in America, defending the cruel policies of Stephen Miller, Tom Homan, and Trump.."
   
   OF COURSE.... WHO NEEDS THE OPINIONS OF THE POPE WHEN YOU HAVE TRUMP...MY GOD.  THIS IS GETTING SICK.   
   
   I don't think she was wearing her life-size crucifix either LOL.  These people have lost the ability to play the "Christian card" a long time ago
   
   
   https://x.com/ReallyAmerican1/status/19 … 2086448365

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    Willowarborposted 2 months ago

    What is it called when everyone in a group is too afraid to criticize the leader for something they know is objectively wrong?
    
    Representative Madeline Dean confronting Mike Johnson over Trump's racist AI video...
    
    
    https://x.com/TheTNHoller/status/1973465516594569353

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    My Esotericposted 2 months ago

    The Dept of Injustice fired prosecutor based on FAKE NEWS from RIGHT-WING social media.
    
    [i]"Michael Ben’Ary was chief of the national security section in the Alexandria, Virginia-based office and previously worked at Justice Department headquarters. He was fired Wednesday, the two sources said, after Julie Kelly, a pro-Trump activist and writer, posted on X about Ben’Ary, saying, “One can only assume he was a big part of the internal resistance to the Comey indictment.”
    
    Ben’Ary wasn’t involved in the Comey case, one of the people familiar with the matter told CNN."[/b]
    
    Ben'Ary needs to sue her pants off and sue the DOIJ for wrongful termination.
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/01/politics … comey-case
    
    This is Clearly the most CORRUPT administration in America's history.

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    Willowarborposted 2 months ago

    My God. Has  anyone ever been more full of shit than Mike Johnson?
    
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1973548233566679313

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       My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Yes, Donald Trump (and Johnson calls himself a Christian. Jesus must be turning in his grave.)

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    Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months ago

    (Too good to let pass me by.)
    
    Jesus isn't in the grave.

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       My Esotericposted 2 months agoin reply to this

       Metaphorical grave then :-)

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          Kathleen Cochranposted 2 months agoin reply to this

          :-)

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    My Esotericposted 2 months ago

    This lying and disgusting message is in red and posted on the SBA web site. Another example of Republicans lawlessness.
    
    {i}"Senate Democrats voted to block a clean federal funding bill (H.R. 5371), leading to a government shutdown that is preventing the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) from serving America’s 36 million small businesses.
    
    Every day that Senate Democrats continue to oppose a clean funding bill, they are stopping an estimated 320 small businesses from accessing $170 million in SBA-guaranteed funding.
    
    As a result of the shutdown, we wanted to notify you that many of our services supporting small businesses are currently unavailable. The agency is executing its Lapse Plan and as soon as the shutdown is over, we are prepared to immediately return to the record-breaking services we were providing under the leadership of the Trump Administration."[/i]
    
    Going to be a lot of investigating and guilty verdicts when honest Democrats are put back in charge.
    
    Does anyone doubt that Trump will preemptivly pardon everyone in his administration?

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    My Esotericposted 2 months ago

    Another judge finds Donald "the enemy of the people" Trump is an Authoritarian.
    
    "Kilmar Abrego Garcia may have been charged because of Trump administration’s vindictiveness, judge finds"
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/03/politics … vindictive

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    Willowarborposted 2 months ago

    LET THEM EAT CAKE
    
    
    
    LMAO

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       Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       Dammit, Willow, you have me in stitches again. Gee, what an ugly broad…
       
       Where is a good working guillotine when you need one?

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    My Esotericposted 8 weeks ago

    In yet another authoritarian move, Donald "the enemy of the people" Trump defies a judges order to not federalize Oregon National Guard for Portland by sending national guard troops from other states. The radical right judge appointed by Trump wasn't having any of it and slapped him down hard again.
    
    In yet another sign of mental decline Trump referred to his female appointee as a "him" while castigating her.
    
    When are his supporters, especially here, going to realize Trump is the true OF THE PEOPLE?
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/06/us/orego … rtland-hnk

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    Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

    Wildly unpopular
    
    

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    Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

    Trump is literally using one state's National Guard troops, Texas, to invade another sovereign state, Illinois. This is a Constitutional crisis. "War Between the States" is not something I thought I'd seen in my lifetime. Unreal.

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       Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       In violation of Posse Comitatus, this President is instigating strife and resentment between sister states. This time it is not the Blue and the Gray, but the Blue and the Red.

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          My Esotericposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          Finally, IL sued. What took him so long?

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             Credence2posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

             Trump has a way of intimidating everybody, ESO. People fear Trump’s gift of hitting below the belt even when you would think that they would be confident regarding the nature of their complaint against the administration.

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    Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

    They Were MAGA Believers Until a Border Stop Changed Everything...
    
    https://t.co/KOqVwtMxqc

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    Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

    this will never be normal to me. the president of the United States saying we need to “take care of” the opposing party.
    
    we are in some extremely dark times
    
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1974940532410310821

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       My Esotericposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       Sounds like a mob boss, doesn't it? Hell, he doesn't sound like one, he is one!

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    My Esotericposted 8 weeks ago

    If Donald "the enemy of the People" Trump declares Martial Law (the Insurrection Act) to get around the court, I guess he and his crony minions haven't boned up on it - the same courts he is trying to get around will block him again (unless he does a mass arrest of all the Trump appointed and other judges immediately).

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       peoplepower73posted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       This is how far Trump and MAGA will go to create the illusion of how bad things are in Portland. They will even use images from South America to make it look like the Police in Portland.  Look at the first Police Officers' shield. It says Policia.
       
       This is the world according to Trump.
       
       https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/re … ocialshare

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          Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          They think the American people are stupid.

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             My Esotericposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

             Well, at least the half that voted for Trump ....

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    My Esotericposted 8 weeks ago

    Want some PROOF that Bondi LIED to Congress yesterday when she said the President doesn't tell DOIJ, and therefor the FBI, what to do.
    
    "Employees in the FBI’s DC and New York field offices received a highly unusual message from their leadership flagged with high importance late Tuesday telling them: “Per a priority request from the Executive Office of the President of the United States, please search any areas where papers or physical media records may be stored, to include both open or closed cases, for records responsive to Amelia Earhart.”"
    
    Now don't deflect by saying Earhart is innocuous because that is missing the point - reread the bolded part.

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       Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       Once the Trump regime is gone, the members of this DOJ will be investigated for years to come.  Deservedly so. Pam set herself up yesterday for a world of hurt.

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          My Esotericposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          Yes, deservedly for sure, but no they won't. Trump will issue blanket pardons to his whole cabinet and other lapdogs that did he bidding.

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    My Esotericposted 8 weeks ago

    Trump doesn't care what real Americans think. Only unpatriotic people who have American citizenship and live on American soil believe what he is doing is right.
    
    The public is now broadly opposed
    The first thing to note is that Americans seem to oppose Trump’s use of the Guard by sightly widening margins.
    
    A CBS News-YouGov poll this weekend showed they opposed Trump’s decision to deploy the Guard to US cities, 58%-42%. A recent Quinnipiac University poll showed they disapproved of Trump’s use of the Guard and federal law enforcement to reduce crime, 55%-42%. And NPR-Ipsos polling in recent weeks showed fewer than 4 in 10 Americans supported Trump’s decisions to deploy the Guard to Washington, DC, and Memphis, Tennessee.
    
    
    These numbers are significant because early polling suggested Americans were more evenly split on Trump’s initial deployment of the military to Los Angeles over the summer.
    
    Those early polls also suggested Americans were broadly open to the concept of using the Guard to help police combat crime, at least as long as local officials didn’t object. (An August AP-NORC poll showed Americans said 55%-37% that it was acceptable for the military and National Guard to support local police.)
    
    But the new data suggest Americans are now broadly opposed to using the Guard at all, irrespective of local input.

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       Willowarborposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

       These are the people that not long ago were ALL about states rights LOL

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          My Esotericposted 8 weeks agoin reply to this

          Today, those people are part of the Left.

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    Willowarborposted 8 weeks ago

    Trump on flag burning: "We took the freedom of speech away"
    
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1976009824157778066

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    TRUMP just said the quiet part out loud — “we’ll be making cuts that will be permanent and we’re only going to cut Democrat programs.”
    
    Disgusting. The President should work on behalf of all Americans,  not punish people for exercising their constitutional rights....
    
    Tell me Maga faithful, will you welcome "maga only" cuts when the shoe is  on the other foot? 
    
    
    https://x.com/GovPressOffice/status/1976390336533680544

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       Credence2posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       There are living people involved in the “Democrat programs” This man still fails to realize that he is representing all Americans, not just his own clique. He has got to GO…

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    Trump’s political persecution campaign continues. As promised. 
    
    Leticia James indicted...
    
    Trump cited 3 Democrats in his Sept. 20 Truth Social post urging Bondi to prosecute them (that the WSJ reported was supposed to be a private X message).
    
    Less than 20 days later, the US attorney Trump installed to replace one who resisted that has indicted 2 of the 3.
    
    WE CAN ALL SEE WHY PAM WAS HIRED CAN'T WE? 
    
    HIS PERSONAL FREAKING ATTORNEY

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    Trump: "We'll be making cuts that will be permanent. And we're only going to cut Democrat programs. I hate to tell you."
    
    So what exactly is a Democrat program???

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    This is sure to piss Trump off. Maybe he will put the Nobel committee on a terrorist list and bomb them in retaliation to the snub.
    
    María Corina Machado wins Nobel Peace Prize (She is a Venezuelan opposition leader.
    
    The prize awarded to Machado for keeping ‘the flame of democracy burning. That means Trump will never get it since his (and MAUGA's) goal is to snuff out the flame of democracy
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/10/world/vi … eace-prize

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       Willowarborposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       The best possible news.
       A Latina WOMAN.
       Venezuelan leader María Corina Machado awarded the Peace Prize, for "tireless work promoting democratic rights in Venezuela" &  "struggle to achieve a just & peaceful transition from dictatorship."
       
       YES!

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          My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Trump, the enemy of the People, is already acting like a little baby over this. ROFL

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             peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             I have a question for Trumpers. Please tell me the specific time when America was Great? I'm reading a book about  how fascism works. It's not about being a NAZI or an Italian fascists.  It is a construct that first divides countries and people into us and them and for the them, it starts to dehumanize them.. Trump did this in his first term with MAGA. It created the us and them division. Then he called the real news the fake news so that he could dehumanize the free press. His rallies are nothing more than a way of dehumanizing the other side (The Them} Then he stuffed the legal system with his own people.
             
             Now we are at the point where all his efforts are coming to fruition. It was subtle in his first term and insidious, but now it is out in the open. He is basically untouchable. He stacked the courts and is going after his enemies to put them away for good.
             
             He is removing democratic federal employees from their jobs. However, he wants Air Traffic Controllers to work without pay.  It's just a matter of time and that sh*t show will come to an end. There will be delays and accidents and uprisings if people can't use air transportation.
             
             He has weaponized tariffs against countries that he thinks are ripping him off and he wants to bring back manufacturing to Make America Great Again.  The problem is the manufacturing that he envisions  was somewhere in the 50's and 60's. Not in the 21st Century with AI improving by leaps and bounds and robots taking the place of huge lines of assembly line workers.  He is even funding coal plants.
             
             Right now he is federalizing national guard troops to quell pretend uprisings that are in his mind. And then he will give himself credit for keeping the peace. This is all part of the fascist movement. I don't know where it ends, but more than likely, there will be a huge flow of money going to the super rich friends as he destroys our democratic republic.
             
             ICE is removing immigrants whole sale.  They operate on Stephen Miller's quota. There are no court proceedings. It is just expedited deportation so that ICE can meet their quota. I'm not going into the details of how it is handled. Everybody has seen what happens in the media..

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                My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Along the same lines I am reading another book that describes the mechanisms authoritarians use to create what you described above. It can be boiled down to two words: LIES and METAPHORS, of which Trump is a master.
                
                The author links to other research I did on how people (simplified version) unconsciously "turn-off" their ability to critically think about certain things. They literally take a lie (I won the 2020 election) or metaphor (Mexicans are scum) as input, bypass the "thinking part" of the frontal cortex and goes straight to the "emotion" part thereby become "hard-wired", as it were, to believing the Lie as Truth.
                
                (Or as ChatGPT would more accurately put it - "The author links to research on motivated reasoning: when a claim is emotionally and identity-charged—say, a false election claim or a dehumanizing metaphor—fast, affect-driven processing can override slower, reflective analysis. Repetition and in-group cues then reinforce the belief, making it feel true even when it isn’t.")
                
                And that is exactly how Trump is accomplishing the demolition of American democracy to create an authoritarian state.
                
                We see examples ot that process in these various forums that try to present the truth about Trump where the pro-Trumpers take the Trump lies and metaphors, believe them, and then try to justify them even though deep down, their rational mind knows them to be false.

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                   wildernessposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   It has been so long since I saw/heard a politician speak anything but emotionally laden catch phrases that I can't remember it at all.
                   
                   It is the modern way to ignore facts or truth, to discourage or even allow people to make decisions themselves - instead the entire thrust of political speech is to raise emotions, particularly hate.
                   
                   And the left is a master at that, just as is the right.  Neither is interested at all in truth, only in convincing us that their particular lies are true.  Trump certainly does not have a lock on that particular form of political garbage.

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                peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                Here is another fascist idealism that Trump is systematically removing, He calls it American Exceptionalism. He is erasing any history of slavery from the museums and memorials'  including the Smithsonian Institute. He wants America to be defined by his vision and definition of what it is.. He wants to Make America Great Again without the history of slavery. I don't think he has thought about the Native Americans yet.

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                   My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Notice you haven't gotten any pushback on your thoughts. The other side apparently agrees with them. It is about time they say the TRUTH.

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                      peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      I know where are they? I think they may be too busy trying to prove that Antifa is a left wing terrorist organization. That is funded by left wing billionaires and that it is terrorizing the country, even as we speak...

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    Talk about a CLOWN SHOW!
    
    The Donald "enemy of the People" Trump's administration is a laughingstock, don't you think?
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/10/politics … ctment-doj

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    Here is the latest lie the Trumpers will take to the grave with them.
    
    "President Donald Trump has repeatedly claimed he has secured “$17 trillion” in investment this year – or even more than that.
    
    “We have over $17 trillion being invested now in the United States,” Trump told reporters at the White House on Tuesday. He added moments later, “We have more than $17 trillion in eight months.” On Friday, he said he thought the figure had “just cracked $18 trillion.”
    
    But even the $17 trillion figure is fictional. But not in MAUGA world
    
    Trump’s own White House website values the “major investment announcements” this term at “$8.8 trillion,” around half the “$17 trillion” and “$18 trillion” numbers Trump used out loud this week. And an item-by-item CNN review of the top 10 items on the White House’s list shows that even the “$8.8 trillion” number is itself a big exaggeration."
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/11/politics … investment

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       Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Interesting to see all this math on how much Trump has brought in investments to our nation, which is more like  2.3 trillion in his first 9 months. I did some checking, and this amount is beyond historic. He achieved it in just the first 9 months of his second term. It really makes you wonder what previous presidents were able to achieve in comparison. Did some checking...
       
       No president comes close in documented terms. Even highly investment-focused administrations like Obama or Biden saw annual FDI peaks in the $400–500 billion range, adding up to perhaps $1.5–$2 trillion across a full term.
       
       So, I’m not sure why anyone would focus on this issue; it seems like a pretty weak point. A little checking shows that Trump has already brought in a historic amount of investment in just his first few months. I can’t even imagine what that number will be by the end of his term; it’s bound to be astronomical. Makes you wonder why some people can’t see the forest for the trees.   Once again, we see example words above deeds --- LOL
       
       AI ---   Let’s total the confirmed investment figures from Trump’s second term only, based on the published numbers in the White House “Trump Effect” list:
       
       Company / Project    Investment (USD)
       AstraZeneca    $50 billion
       Apple    $600 billion
       Project Stargate (SoftBank, OpenAI, Oracle)    $500 billion
       NVIDIA    $500 billion
       Micron Technology    $200 billion
       IBM    $150 billion
       TSMC    $100 billion
       Johnson & Johnson    $55 billion
       Roche    $50 billion
       Bristol Myers Squibb    $40 billion
       Eli Lilly    $27 billion
       Hyundai    $25 billion (mid-range estimate)
       Amazon    $34 billion (sum of cited projects)
       Total    ≈ $2.33 trillion
       
       ✅ Fact summary:
       From publicly documented and White House-verified announcements under Trump’s second term, the total comes to about $2.3 trillion in confirmed investment pledges.
       
       This number excludes:
       
       Vague or future “pledges” without stated amounts,
       
       Projects already underway under prior administrations, and
       
       Foreign government-level commitments not tied to U.S. companies.
       
       So while Trump’s public claim of $17 trillion is not supported by evidence, roughly $2.3 trillion in named, documented corporate investment commitments can be traced directly to his second-term actions.

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          My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          1. So Trump lying about it doesn't bother you? (you were careful not to criticize as you would have Biden, just noted Trump had no evidence which is a nice step forward)
          
          2. That the historic $2.33 trillion came from you personally through paying higher prices along with millions of other Americans as well as significantly lower profits for companies that import stuff.
          
          3. Not a dime of that $2.33 trillion came from other nations.
          
          Personally, I don't think putting what is in effect a $2.33 trillion tax on American people and businesses is a good thing.

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          peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          That's a nice distraction. Look here, not there.  My post is about how Trump is a fascist, pure and simple. We all know he lies every chance he gets. It's called exaggeration, or as he calls it "Truthful Hyperbole." The point is Trumpers could care less. That is the very scary part. In difference is very dangerous and that is precisely what makes fascism work.

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             Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             I was addressing a comment that ECO posted — it wasn’t me who diverted the discussion, it was your buddy. I’ve included the permalink to ECO’s comment and my reply, which, interestingly enough, actually supports that Trump was sharing a mistruth. It seems you haven’t followed the progression of who said what.
             
             Before being accusatory toward me, please review the full conversation to understand the context..
             
             For the record, I didn’t report your comment, but I suggest you refrain from making disparaging remarks toward me. If I find anything personally offensive, I won’t hesitate to report it to the moderator.   Hopefully, you’ll move past my posts in the future. I hope to avoid conflict here on HPs, and I try very hard to follow the rules they have set.
             
             Permalink   https://hubpages.com/politics/forum/369 … ost4386458

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                peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                I'm sorry if I offended your sensibilities and that you were personally offended by my insenseitive remark. I will try to do better next time. But I was frustrated that you did not reply to my post. Or maybe you did and chose not to reply.

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                   Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   No problem — water under the bridge. I make it a point to follow this site’s rules and try to respect the subject of each thread. Clearly, many do not, which I chalk up to free speech. I also avoid threads where I feel I have nothing constructive to add to a civil conversation. What’s great about chats is that you can pick and choose where you want to participate and who you feel interested in conversing with. I have come to pick and choose carefully
                   
                   I’ll admit, I’m not entirely sure which comment you’re referring to. Some threads have become so active and lengthy that it’s easy to miss comments directed at me. The ongoing posts take up multiple pages, which can make following conversations a bit tricky.

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    The kind of stuff you would expect to see in a third world dictatorship... Playing on a loop in our nation's airports...
    mediahttps://x.com/BarbaraComstock/status/1976945974380757389

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       My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       I would drop the word "expect".

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    
    
    Trump’s understanding of the calendar is even weaker than his understanding of %. 
    
    Also, exactly who is he telling to "do something", and what exactly does he want done?

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       IslandBitesposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       He's losing it. "Some people" are calling him Dementia Donald.

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          Willowarborposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          I find it interesting that his handlers aren't taking away his electronics before he goes to sleep LOL
          
          it's either dementia or he just really believes that his followers are that stupid...
          
          Can't wait to hear how bullshit Barbie spins this one

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             IslandBitesposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             it's either dementia or he just really believes that his followers are that stupid...
             
             It's both.

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    PeoplePower, I find it very telling that when a person says they try to "follow all the rules" but then violates them repeatedly, often with Willowarbor and sometimes me (which I have reported, but since I am on the left, to no avail).
    
    I found nothing disparaging in your remark unless criticism of Trump is taken personally.

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    Trump, the enemy of the people, has no idea what damage his knee-jerk reactions (he calls them Gut". In this case, it probably cost him and his sons a lot of money.
    
    "Trump’s new 100% tariffs on China triggered an $18 billion crypto sell-off
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/11/business … to-selloff

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    Credence2posted 7 weeks ago

    So, who are the real Americans? WE ARE. The article explains why.
    
    https://www.salon.com/2025/10/11/who-ar … ns-we-are/

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       My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       What a fantastic opening paragraph:
       
       "Armed federal agents intimidating people on the streets of great American cities. Public servants who lived up to their oaths of office losing their careers or being charged with crimes at the behest of a man convicted of numerous felonies. Hundreds of U.S. generals summoned to Marine headquarters in Virginia to hear what a former Fox News personality and a five-time draft dodger want to demand of them. (Hint: loyalty to them, not to the Constitution.)"
       
       I am sure none of that was lost on those generals and admirals who don't have same authoritarian bent as Trump and Hegseth do.

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       peoplepower73posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       I read the entire article and it's a master class in what we are witnessing and living under in the Trump Regime...It does a great job in defining who Real Americans are. Stephen Miller uses that term, but he can't even define it.
       
       Thanks for that post.

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          Credence2posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          You are welcome

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       My Esotericposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Another Truism:
       
       " But much of what used to define conservative ideology,like adherence to the rule of law, has been abandoned by MAGA religious zealots and white supremacists, and someone needs to step into the breach and stand up for the Constitution."
       
       I would have rewritten that last line as "someone needs to step into the breach and more forcefully continue to stand up for the Constitution

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       Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

       Cred,   This is just my view of the article, and being a Republican, I’m offering a view that will likely differ from a far-left author. The title—“Armed federal agents intimidating people on the streets of great American cities…”—the article doesn’t back it up. It mentions federal deployments in Portland and Chicago but quickly shifts into opinion and broad political attacks. There’s no real evidence supporting the dramatic headline.
       
       Honestly, this reads more like a hit piece than serious analysis. The author piles on emotional language and personal attacks on Trump, labeling him a “grifter” and “psychopath,” while twisting or dismissing legitimate policy actions. There are a few factual points. like federal deployments and SNAP work requirement changes, but most of the piece is speculation about MAGA supporters’ motives. As a Trump supporter, it’s frustrating to see real policies ignored and constant ad hominem attacks used as “analysis.” I’d take this article with a huge grain of salt.

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          Credence2posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

          Being anti Trump and anti this administration does not make the author a far left radical. There are moderates (not so much among Republicans as they are afraid of crossing) in each party that oppose Trump.
          
          I am against Trump and his methods, so does that consign me to the far left?
          
          It is just an opinion piece from the view of the Right, but accurately reflects my point of view.

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             Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

             Cred, I think you’re reading into my comment and attributing something I didn’t say. I never labeled this author as a far-left radical. I’ve read some of his articles and would describe his ideologies and style of writing as “far-left,” as I did here. I don’t see that as an insult; it’s just a label commonly used to describe someone’s political perspective, like AOC and her squad.
             
             Honestly, I probably should’ve just asked, what parts of the article did you actually find factual? He threw out a lot of accusations.  Would sharing not promote conversation?

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                Credence2posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                I don’t know that it is possible to present factual information as our ideological poles are so far apart, we both have our own legitimized sources for “facts”. It is truly rare when you or I can both have an objective observation or opinion that we can agree upon.
                ——
                For example, Trump called Portland Oregon a war ravaged zone, here is what the officials the mayor and the Governor of Oregon says:
                
                Local perspective: Portland city leaders and Oregon state officials have disputed the justification for deploying troops, stating that local law enforcement had the situation under control and that the federal presence was intended to provoke conflict. An OregonLive report on October 10, 2025, described the protests as having a shifted tone and humorously countering the administration's "apocalyptic" narrative of the city.
                
                From that perspective, who am I going to believe? Trump who I believe has a political motivation for attacking Portland or the people and their representatives that actually live there? So whose facts are to be considered the most accurate?
                
                Much like that scenario of Trump and Vance accusing Haitians in Ohio of eating their neighbors pets. Again, the mayor of that city and the Governor said that it was nonsense, who am I to believe? Do, i believe the people and the officials of the state that represent them, or do I believe Trump? Trumps assertion was preposterous on its face creating despair and fear within a law abiding community. So, again who am I to believe? Whose “facts” are more likely to be accurate?
                
                I could bring up other points in the article and present much the same.

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                   Sharlee01posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                   Cred,  I think it’s important to remember what was really happening before the planned troop deployment. These protests outside the Portland ICE facility were going on most of the summer; confrontations with officers, arrests, and property damage were happening night after night. That’s nightly violence is what sparked President Trump’s decision to send in National Guard troops. ICE is legally allowed to enforce federal immigration laws, including making arrests, at its facilities and in the field. By law, ICE agents can use reasonable or even lethal force to protect themselves or others from bodily harm. If the National Guard is sent in, they can also use reasonable or lethal force to defend ICE personnel and federal property, but they cannot make immigration arrests—their role is strictly protective.
                   
                   The troops were blocked by the court. And remained blocked while Trump appeals. And honestly, I’m not even sure he would send in the Guard if he wins in court, due to the situation seems under control. The National Guard is there in Portland on stand-down orders.  Hopefully, they are not needed.
                   
                   That said, local police working with ICE have been able to curb the violence, and with this increased law enforcement presence, the situation outside the federal ICE center is now under control. Peaceful protesters can show up daily, there are fewer arrests, and far fewer skirmishes. It’s disturbing to see the left now highlight only the peaceful protests, while ignoring the violence, arrests, and property damage that occurred just a month ago. In my view, that says a lot about their mindset. I wouldn’t be proud to be part of that kind of narrative myself.
                   
                   You also have to remember the Summer of Love in 2020, where state representatives said much the same thing, yet 25 people were killed, and billions in property damage occurred over 90 days.. That history shows why the federal response was deemed necessary.
                   
                   As for the unrelated “eating the pets” story, that was on them, and they ended up looking foolish.
                   
                   I agree with what Trump is doing regarding sending troops to protect ICE as well as federal buildings.   I would have no problem if any governor asked for help dealing with crime in their cities.. However, due to the standing laws, a Governor would need to ask for assistance. Trump has made statements that he would help with crime in cities that need help.  "I want them to admit they have crime. I want them to say, 'We have a problem, could Trump bring in the troops and solve the problem?'— President Donald Trump, speaking to reporters aboard Air Force One
                   
                   Law-abiding citizens shouldn’t have to live with escalating violence while waiting for local authorities to manage it.  I am not putting much time into sources. If interested, one can find the early videos on YouTube of the  Portland riot back in September, early October, and compare them to the last few days of protests.  My memory is good, in Sep I saw them nightly being posted on YouTube, Facebook, and X.
                   
                   1 month ago, before troops, and why troops in the end were sent
                   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KfVbSXWQNw
                   4 days ago --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQvk_ujDG_c
                   7 days ago   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DXzJk-srA0

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                      Willowarborposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                      ICE or the National Guard have nothing to do with addressing crime in any given City...
                      They are not legally able to act as law enforcement in any manner.
                      
                      LOL are you really making the argument that because there were some disruptive protests MONTHS AGO  on maybe a night or two in a half a block radius that this is an acceptable reaction by this regime? Absolutely not... The police for more than able to handle the situation and the governor did not request help.

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                         Credence2posted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                         I can’t speak to 2020, but this OPB piece is as accurate as any explanation of events in recent days. The judge issuing the restraining order against the Trump administration says that enough is enough.
                         
                         https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/06/ … ng-orders/

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                            Willowarborposted 7 weeks agoin reply to this

                            "Immergut found the Trump administration’s argument unconvincing, saying incidents at the ICE facility “do not approach the level of disruption to federal functions.”
                            
                            In her opinion on the ruling, she noted that deployment of the National Guard had the potential to inflame protests, and said any deployment of federal troops to Oregon would be “an injury to its sovereignty”
                            
                            She makes perfect sense... AND TRUMP APPOINTED HER.   I think most reasonable people can see that these deployments are all about inflaming the locals.

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    BUT HUNTER.....
    
    A hot mic at the Gaza peace summit in Egypt's Sharm El-Sheikh on October 13, 2025, captured U.S. President Donald Trump agreeing to have his son Eric contact Indonesian President Prabowo Subianto after Prabowo requested a meeting with Eric or Donald Trump Jr. The exchange occurred following Trump's speech on regional security, amid the Trump Organization's planned expansions in Indonesia, including luxury properties. The incident has raised ethics concerns regarding potential conflicts between official diplomacy and family business interests...
    
    Trump actually doing what they accused Biden and Hunter of doing and not a peep from the right…
    
    https://x.com/MilaLovesJoe/status/1977961492210417690

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    My Esotericposted 7 weeks ago

    And you wonder why we are so afraid of the Republican Party!
    
    These are not one-offs, they are emblematic.
    
    Everyone that votes no is going to the gas chamber.
    
    I’m ready to watch people burn now
    
    When do we start bullying dude?
    
    Are you going to do whatever it takes?Boom - they’re dead.
    
    ❤️When do we bring that side out?
    
    He also hates the Jews❤️
    
    They love the watermelon people
    
    Get out your barf bag.
    
    https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/1 … wuJ0uqTkyg

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    Today in "let's play how the media would react if Joe Biden" either 1) didn't understand Appropriations 101 or 2) asserted the unilateral power to withhold money lawfully appropriated by Congress. Plus or minus 1,000 HE NEEDS TO RESIGN stories?
    
    And the clowns sitting around that table just smile and nod don't they?
    
    https://x.com/atrupar/status/1978166757681410497

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    Trump Forces Out Second Prosecutor for Refusing to Bend the Knee...
    
    "Trump’s administration forced out yet another U.S. attorney for not going along with their flimsy case, The New York Times reported.
    
    Todd Gilbert, the U.S. attorney in the Western District of Virginia, was forced to resign in August after he refused to sideline a high-ranking prosecutor who said there wasn’t sufficient evidence of criminal misconduct during the FBI’s investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election"
    
    OH YES, TELL ME MORE ABOUT MARXISM, FASCISM AND COMMUNISM LOL

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    Willowarborposted 7 weeks ago

    Lol the Apple has not fallen far from the tree...
    https://x.com/Acyn/status/1978273266709184836
    
    Eric Trump: We found out that Jack Smith was planting classified folders in Mar-a-Lago...
    
    Hopefully someone will AGAIN sue the hell out of fox for this one...
    
    Smith wasn’t appointed as Special Counsel until AFTER the Mar-a-Lardo raid....

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    My Esotericposted 6 weeks ago

    As Trump, the enemy of the people, tries to assert even more authoritarian control over American society, at least two universities have found the courage to stand in his way.
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/16/us/trump … ct-funding

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    The rule of MAGA socialism is: when corporate donors need bailouts, it’s “economic stimulus.”
    When farmers struggle because of Trump’s own tariffs, it’s “helping his people.”
    
    You can’t run a trade war that crushes agriculture, then use taxpayer money to buy back loyalty.
    
    That’s not a strategic economic policy, that’s political hush money disguised as aid.

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    On September 23, in a free and fair election Adelita Grijalva was voted to succeed her late father, Raul Grijalva, in the US House.
    
    In a normal America, she would have already been sworn in as a member of Congress and working for her constituents.
    
    But, in Trump's America, Johnson won't swear her in.
    
    She will be the 218th and final signature needed to release the Epstein Files and finally the truth can come out....

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    My Esotericposted 6 weeks ago

    Donald "the enemy of the people" Trump's revenge tour took a twist yesterday when the Trump directed DOIJ indicted John Bolton for the same thing Biden's independent DOJ indicted Trump for - mishandling classified information. (Bolton is in the unfortunate situation in that he can't become president to make it go away).
    
    Unlike the made-up indictments of Laticia James and James Comey, who will make mincemeat of Trump's lackeys in court, the charges against Bolton are real and substantial. They began in the Biden administration and culminated in the Trump administration. Just from what I have heard in the reliable MSM, Bolton, as we Vietnam veterans like to say, is in deep kimchi.
    
    https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/17/politics … omey-james

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    According to Trump's suck-up Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, "The Democrat Party's main constituency is made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens, and violent criminals."
    
    I am proud democrat and I am not a Hamas terrorist, illegal alien, or violent criminal.
    
    I don't know one Hamas terrorist, illegal alien, or violent criminal in the Democrat Party.
    
    But, I do know many MAGA who are racist lovers of an unhinged wanna be King with not one ounce of common sense.
    
    Bullshit Barbie Karoline is another Trump deplorable....

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       Credence2posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       According to Trump's suck-up Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, "The Democrat Party's main constituency is made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens, and violent criminals."
       
       
       This was a dumb thing to say and such statements will exacerbate the divide and make a future unpleasant confrontation inevitable.

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          Willowarborposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          And yet silence from the right winger on her incendiary language.  Makes it really hard to take these people seriously, as they really seem to stand for nothing.

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    They want to talk about hate America rallies?? lol
    
    
    

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       My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       Can't you see what is right in front of your eyes? That is obviously a peaceful protest in a park. ROFL.

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    Where are all the posters who  were just so deeply offended and appalled that anyone on "the left" would use the term Nazi or fascist toward MAGA and Trump followers???
    
    Remember how all of you were telling us that this language incites violence?
    
    Remember how your hair was on fire?
    
    So deeply aggrieved?? So profoundly impacted? 
    
    "an October 2025 appearance on Fox News, Leavitt claimed that "the Democrat party's main constituency" is "made up of Hamas terrorists, illegal aliens, and violent criminals". She further alleged that Democrats are "catering" to these groups."
    
    So bullshit Barbie is inciting violence also, right?
    
    Y'all aren't flip-flopping now are you??

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       peoplepower73posted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       They divide everything into MAGA and the democrats. Then they assign conspiracy theories to the democrats and repeat it until it becomes reality for MAGA's. These tactics are fascism at work. The irony is that Antifa means anti-fascist.

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          Willowarborposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          These people stand for no consistent principles whatsoever... Simply adoration and blind loyalty to one orange buffoon.  Whatever Trump and his band of miscreants says or does on any given day is absolutely wonderful... Until the next day when they have to turn their position on its head because dear leader changes his mind.  They happily fall in line though don't they

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       My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       They are all cowering in their echo chambers.

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          Willowarborposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

          They were all over the Charlie Kirk thread with accusations that speech from Democrats was inciting violence.... And now that Leavitt uses the same language? They look away...
          
          Their future leadership calls fellow citizens watermelon people and monkeys.. they ignore it. One of their wraps has a swastika hanging in his office.. that's a okay...
          
          HYPOCRITES

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    Willowarborposted 6 weeks ago

    Mike Johnson on No Kings:
    
    "We refer to it by its more accurate description -- the Hate America Rally. You're gonna bring together the Marxists, the socialists, the antifa advocates, the anarchists, and the pro-Hamas wing of the far left Democrat Party. That is the modern Democratic Party. That's where they've gone. The Hate America Rally is the common theme among all those groups."
    
    Where's the outrage for the incendiary language?? Where are my Pearl clutchers???
    
    HERE'S YOUR HATE AMERICA RALLY
    
    

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    Sharlee01posted 6 weeks ago

    

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       My Esotericposted 6 weeks agoin reply to this

       NOT IF IT HARMS OR KILLS SOMEONE!!!!

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