According to today's Gallup Poll, the favorable impression of democrats is the lowest in 18 years, with 41%. Republicans aren't doing much better, but they have edged out the democrats, with an approval of 42%.
http://www.gallup.com/home.aspx
SO this means the majority of Americans (60 percent) think the whole system stinks.
41%-42% with a 4% +/- error means it's really a virtual tie. Neither party has room to brag they both work for lobbyist's and special interest groups not the average American citizen.
Imagine that! Actually, since almost 80% of Americans don't trust the government I'd say most of us don't think either groups too popular at the moment.
The system is fine, it's the idiots we choose to run it that is the problem!
Appears to me that this is due to the lack of credible information - people are no longer listening because most of the information is BS - rather than them not listening to their tv; and so they stay entrenched in their own 'side'.
For instance - there is clearly something going on with our environment but any discussion about climate has been mobbed by the opposition, and the more alarming issue of species extinction gets smothered with it, along with anything on the 'green' side.
This deliberate misinformation is just another way of 'burning the books'. In previous eras this was a sure sign that cycle of civilisation was coming to an end.
Here's the thing about polls. Did they ask you? They didnt ask me! So, apparently they really have no idea what they are talking about. JUST MORE PROPAGANDA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe more important - they pre-empt the answers with the choice and phrasing of the questions - they never ask us what WE want THEM to know do they?
Exactly! Then they use thier spin for propaganda. It would be pathetic if it didnt work.
Then the 'masses' tell us that is what they think because it has been recycled back to them through the magic box in their living rooms. It is better than propaganda because the masses really convince themselves. I really try hard not to even think of 'the masses' as stupid, which is a kind of racism except mass-ism I suppose - but it does stretch compassion a bit.
You wouldn't get very coherent or useful information if you just asked people, "So...uh, what do you think about stuff?"
It's certainly true that far too few citizens seem to do their own thinking.
On the other hand, it's more than mildly intriguing to see (for example) that no matter what Obama does, he's not been able to move the numbers on the new health care law. Whether you like Rasmussen or believe (for example) that Gallup poll numbers are the most accurate, it's still fascinating to to note this (as published in a recent online.wsj.com article):
"In 15 consecutive Rasmussen Reports polls conducted over the past four months, the percentage of Americans that oppose the plan has stayed between 52% and 58%. The number in favor has held steady between 38% and 44%."
Looks to me like the old believe-what-the-box-tells-you syndrome might just be fading a bit in the ol' U.S. of A.....
I for one think we are inundated with half-truths and spin to the point that's it's becoming nearly impossible to know exactly what's going on. Congress debates bills in the thousands of pages; who has time to read that? Not even congress.
This is a major change and no one can really predict how it's going to come out. Fear of the unfamiliar is a big factor. I keep trying to find a silver lining in the legislation and I...just...can't.
I miss the days when you could turn on the news and see (or hear) unfiltered unspun gritty down to earth democracy in action. Where someone could give a raw un-polished position without having a script writer or publicist around to clean it all up, dilute it, or make a gold plated turd out of it.
How many of you have actually been polled before? I've been polled only two times - ever - once in the last election and once since Obama became POTUS.
I've gotten plenty of calls asking about what kind of toilet paper and cells phone I like...but as far as having been asked about politics...not a one.
Wouldn't it be nice if people would stop playing party politics and just vote for people that are willing to resist being bought out and do the right thing?
Vote for the person who is right for the job.
Last year's congress was a disaster. Perfect Example: Ron Paul's "Audit the Fed" bill which got so stuffed with garbage that even Ron Paul ended up voting against his own bill.
Vote for people who will address real issues one at a time and stop these horrible Mega Bills that are doing no one any good.
Generally agree (though I don't often agree with you, I find). But I am not sure how easy it is to find a politician who can't be bought.
I think it is important to keep the ranks of Republicans in non-Urban areas, like counties, where State governments are closer to people and are more fiscally responsible.
There is an upcoming election in the Maryland House of Delegates. This candidate is the appropriate person for the job: Charles Jenkins.
Look at his profile: http://www.charles2010.com/
I heard yesterday that some poll said 80% of Americans don't trust the government, which, to me, indicates that a whole lot of people aren't too thrilled with either Democrats or Republicans. Democrats in power need to shape up, and Republicans in power had better watch their step as well. This moment of favor they seem to enjoying is only because a whole lot of people "go with" whoever they find least offensive at any given moment. If nothing else, maybe the whole lot of them will figure out they have no reason to hang onto their arrogance.
This is the result of lots and lots and lots of fomenting the masses by the GOP. Anti-government moods are relatively in your favor when the opposition is in power, right? They are hoping people will toss out the incumbent and vote in someone new, which means tilting the balance of power in favor of the Republicans (even though they've proven in recent history that they're incapable of governing).
Republican or Democrat it simply doesn't matter. Both parties continue to perpetuate the Fraud on the people known as the Fractional Reserve Banking system. Both parties are bought and sold.
In 1980 the National Debt was $1 Trillion. Today it is nearing $13 Trillion and climbing. During that time BOTH Democrats and Republicans have been in power in both the Senate and the Presidency.
Can't borrow and spend forever. The reaper has caught up to the reckless.
So popularity is a non factor. NO one in either party is doing anything to fix the system which has created a society of "Debt Slaves".
You're exactly right. Which is why when you're in an economic boom, you should pare down the debt. Clinton did. Bush didn't.
Bush spent like crazy. Clinton managed to stay within budgets but still did nothing to reduce the actual National Debt Load. Deficits are recorded based on proposed budgets not actual National Debt.
In 1980 the National Debt was approximately $1 Trillion. It's now approaching $13 Trillion. Democrats and Republicans have been in power during this acceleration of debt.
Spend and borrow... both parties.
Blame whomever you want... the real blame lies with the system of Fractional Reserve Banking which has made "Debt Slaves" out of Americans.
I read a report that said the debt breaks down as follows:
$13 Trillion National Debt
$26 Trillion Consumer Debt
----------------------------
$39 Trillion in debt
USA Assets = $54 Trillion
So we have $15 Trillion is clear assets.
See the problem? More debt than assets. Americans will never have the ability to repay the existing debt. Tax Americans at 100% and it's still not there.
So people who use scam math of debt/GDP ... are only fooling themselves.
The crash is coming and it's just a matter of when.
Debt is not capital. The system has collapsed on itself all due to Fractional Reserve Banking which creates money out of nothing as America has leveraged it's future.
And this is not just the case in America... there are 110 Central Banks Worldwide. The EU is even more in debt.
It'll be interesting to see how much that changes over the next few years. It'll depend, I suppose, on if we get more of the same or not. Bush Republicans or Obama Democrats there really isn't much to choose between the two.
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