I do not even know what to say except WHAT?
haaaa.....nobody should be expelled from country he loves..
Aren't you reaching here a bit, I mean seriously, wtf? What gets me the most, is you know your reaching.
What of George Washington? He fought for his "motherland." His "HOME" country. Hell, he might even be credited for starting the whole damn French and Indian War. What of him Arthur? How soon one forgets the history books of the America's, when one just wishes to breed fear and hate instead.
I go extremely disappointed in your conservative parade, which was deeply lacking a historical perspective.
You. I thought I wrote that already.
And yet you cannot explain the historical perspective with forethought and intelligence. Is a dimwitted point of view a preferred method of yours?
Disappointing Arthur. Though quite typical and most expected.
Wow, you're starting to sound like that mikelong kid.
TK- mind your manners. You know you are banned in these forums. How soon you forget your actual place.
Maybe you really are him. Everyone seems to love playing 'who are you?' around here...
George Washington was born at in Westmoreland County, Virginia, on February 22, 1732.
At that time Virginia was an English colony, but he was born on the American continent. No one, before 1776 was born in the US, even though born in N. America
That is an absurd argument. A red herring. Just like the left. You cannot equate the two. Apples and oranges.
There was no United States of America then.... there is now. And there was when O'by was born.
See the difference.
I think you are reading into the statement what you want to hear. I think you know as well as anybody that Michelle Obama was trying to relate to the topic from a personal stand and not the one that the birthers are looking to promote.
What is obvious is that she meant where Barak Obama ancestry hails from. Nothing more and nothing less.
You should send this to Beck. He may rethink his getting over the birther rantings and turn this into a real hillarious bit for us all to watch.
I read into the statement that maybe Michelle needs some new speech writers.
There you go nit picking again. Although my first maternal ancestors came from England in the 1600s I still think of England in a sense as my home country as I do of Sweden from whence my paternal ancestors immigrated in the late 18th century. I'm sure that plenty of people make remarks identical to Michelle Obama's.
I am of Portugese descent. Portugal is not my "home" country. I am not Portugese-American. I am an American.... stop
Too bad the First lady is not proud of her "home" country. Oh yeah she is now that her hubbies the president.
I was born in and I am proud of my HOME country The United States of America.
This particular administration has told so many lies about so many things that it needs a whole new office to keep track of what lies they have told to who.
It would be great job security right up until he is voted out of office.
The racists who advocated sending all negros back to Africa - a century or so ago - wanted to send ALL negros to their 'home country' - even though almost all US negros by then had been born in the US.
The birthers won't quit.
Man you are lost. We are discussing a very real thing hear and you just spew your hate into it. Grow up.
Obama's birth certificate is in the same box with Dumbya's military records. Find the military records, find the birth certificate. Case closed and everyone's happy. See how bipartisan works!
Mason - let me draw you a picture since you don't get what I said. When it suits a racist bastard to say so, Africa is the 'home country' of a 'negro' or a 'black' or 'african-american' even when he's a natural -born American. And it's always been comfortable for a racist to say 'Send him back to Africa.' even if the black man is from Harlem. But let a black man or woman indicate a kinship they feel with Africa, the new racist claims it's proof the President is from Kenya.
Before you or any zealous friends wear out the 'report' button, I am not calling you racist or a bastard. I don't know your ancestry or tolerance level. It's not guesswork to suggest some birthers are racist and I'm pointing out the inconsistancy in the way they are jumping the remarks of the First Lady.
So why does she say my husbands homeland and not our homeland if her intent was to claim historical relationship to that country?
Racist bastard? For saying Africa is the home country of blacks?
Aren't the blacks the ones who insist on being called African-Americans? Before all that started, we were all black Americans, white Americans, or just American.
You know Doug.
I have learned in life that it is always the racists. Who see everything in terms of race.
He was born in Kenya. His Aunt and Grandma from there waere present at that birth, and there is a birth certificate filed with the Kenyan govt. through his home village.
Anyone can obtain the birth certificate he did. If it is not so, then why doesn't he just produce the evidence.
I don't begrude that he is an Afrfican.
I Begrude that he is not an American. And there-fore not my president
Maybe Yours.... not mine.
The evidence has been produced, but apparently you refuse to accept it.
The most telling bit of evidence is a clipping in a Hawaii newspaper from a couple of days after his birth - announcing his birth in Hawaii. It doesn't identify Barak Obama by name, just the parents by name and the birth of a son - in Hawaii.
Of course it could be that the announcement to the newspaper was a fraud because the parents who were in Africa anticipated that their son would run for president some day and would need citizenship.
The birthers are beneath contempt.
Yeah I know... His grand-mother called it in after she recieved the news via telephone from Kenya. Thats why it ia a couple of days later.
Not the next day from the blotter at the hospital.
Let's be sure we have this straight. Grandma in HI called in a false birth announcement to make sure her infant grandson would have a chance at running for president in 5 decades.
Is Marajuana already legal where you are?
It was done simply so the child would be an American. Period. American citizenship was once a pretty prized thing.
Not any more though.
The rest was all just luck.
I guess you think that if an American woman was to give birth outside the USA, the child would have to stay in that country and the mother would be in permanent exile from the US if she wanted to kep the child. I'm not clear how (in your paranoid fantasy) a newspaper clipping would get the mother and child through immigration into the US and how a newspaper clipping is a substitute for a bith certificate getting a SSN.
In short, your theory has more holes in it than a sieve.
He wants so badly for it to be true, he cannot accept that the facts contradict his opinion.
I think the next argument for the birthers will be that the CIA forged his birth certificate last year after the election using state-of-the-art technology and used the secret time machine that everyone knows the CIA has to put the birth certificate into the records.
I look at the National Inquirer when I am in line at the supermarket. But I don't BELIEVE what they print. Some people will believe anything.
You probably don't realize how ridiculous you sound. Rational people everywhere, many of whom are Republicans, are laughing at the birthers.
I don't really care about what anyone thinks of my opinions.
What would give you that idea hun?
I thought I had made that one point clear, at least.
You said it right, sweetcheeks: your opinion, since the facts are crystal clear.
But I tire of repeating them....
It gets old reciting them to you all.
I mean? I wouldv'e expected better comprehension and retention skills. But this is America after all and everyone passes.
"The racists who advocated sending all negros back to Africa - a century or so ago - wanted to send ALL negros to their 'home country' - even though almost all US negros by then had been born in the US."
Like Marcus Garvey?
"And it's always been comfortable for a racist to say 'Send him back to Africa.' even if the black man is from Harlem. "
Exactly like Markus Garvey.
Look at thier other hero Che and the things he said about the Negro.
Um. I have NEVER heard anyone use that phrase to mean that. Never.
I've heard "ancestral home," "home of my forebears," "country of my ethnic heritage," etc.
I am Irish by heritage, but Ireland is NOT my home country, the USA is. Ireland is the home of my ancestors.
These people are supposed to be intelligent enough to use language properly; if it IS the case that's that what she meant (and I am by NO means convinced that it is), then some aide ought to have warned her to use different verbiage given the current debate.
The President or his staff could end this debate quickly and easily, but they do not. That, more than anything else, makes me suspicious.
The President of the United States has a bigger problem in the distant future, if his birth remains in question. It is fraud and prison if he is not a citizen.
Yeah thats funny ain't it. he is not an American. Have you all figured it out yet? The leftists have duped you all.
Obama's birth certificate is exactly where it should be.
With the Department of Health in the state he was born in.
Verified by the department.
But I guess they are all part of the conspiracy to have a decent President though aren't they?
When I was in the Navy, we put in to Mombasa, Kenya. I was surprised at the fierce anticipation many black sailors - tough guys - had about setting foot on African soil. You might expect that since most African-Americans are generations removed from their homeland and were culturally stripped of their heritage, the feelings about Africa would be casual and incidental. You might expect that, but you would be wrong.
I think it all comes down to a simple explanation.
Perhaps, just perhaps Michelle Obama is just as dumb as George W. Bush?
Maybe and I mean just maybe she is as simple as Dan Quayle?
OMG he is not going to say it!!!!!
Yes your dam right I am.
I think Michelle is dumber then Ronnie Reagan!
I don't care if the man is from Mars. We have bigger problems at the moment!
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 … e_usa.html
Let's face it. It doesn't matter what facts are presented, certain people will never believe that Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii, in the United States of America.
it's also in his autobiography written in 1995.
born in Honolulu, 1961.
but you're right, those who don't want to believe it will never believe it.
So you read his books?
Then you know he is a muslim racist America hating socailist.
As long as we're on the same page.
I read "The Audacity of Hope" (a gift from my conservative Republican fiance') and didn't see any of that. Funny, isn't it?
? I didn't see that at all. I don't read with biased eyes.
I thought his autobiography was very helpful in understanding who he is.
plus I find your remark insulting.
He didn't read the book. That won't stop him from saying he did, and inventing things that weren't written.
Lol, I wondered how long it would take for this to come up. I heard it weeks ago. No conspiracy here...move along.
That video is only one of many proving that the Obamas' loyalties are divided between nations and religions and cultures and even races. They're like fish out of water because they don't have a set of basic standards they adhere to; they twist and turn with the wind and are blown in whatever direction will get their floating agenda heard.
And yes it does matter. When an American President doesn't uphold America, and when there's so much confusion about who/what he even is, it should be addressed immediately and from all corners. It SHOULD have been addressed before he ever took Office. But then....of course the liberal activists would've been stopped from even putting him there in the first place.
The 'liberal activists' didn't put Obama in office. A large majority of voting citizens did. A lot of wingnut crybabies have tried to undo the results of that election. They should be (but aren't) ashamed of trying to turn back the popular will of the people.
I completely disagree with this Brenda. Why? If you would have actually read all the posts, you'd know that what you wrote, was addressed already. So why repeat the same verbiage again, and again?
Should it have been address? Yes we all agree on that. If you would have read what some of us have already written, you know that though. You'd also know that Arthur bought up a good forethought, that maybe Michelle is stupid, and perhaps a horrible public speaker.
So, IF that's true that she's a bad speaker, what does that matter? That's used by many to excuse her words and Obama's words; a deflective tactic that they and people who back them use to stop people from talking about it, like "move on". Well, the subject is still relevant, and the cards may have been on the table all along, but their game is still playing.
I dunno about you, but I'm an American citizen, and I'll still talk about it if I want to.
"Then you know he is a muslim racist America hating socailist."
THIS is the tea-bag movement, and why it's got to go.
BTW, I didn't watch the video, as all things repub are against my religion. BUT, I call Sweden my home country since I'm only 3rd generation here.....does that mean I hate America?
Ehhhhhhhh. It's you people who think you OWN it that hate it. You see, America is a melting pot...why do you think we celebrate Columbus Day and Saint Patrick's day? Because Italian and Irish hate America?
NO! They are honoring their ancestors.....something I do ALL the time.
And they're not pilgrims from England!
man you are reaching for anything to discredit Obama, and you let Bushco whizz right by you like my kid on a snow-sled!!!
err, take off your elephant glasses.....you might actually see something.
like fer instance....how did NORAD stand down on 9/11???who was in charge?
Oh that's right....we're not discussing that....OLD NEWS. right? Only 3,000 Americans dead. move on. right?
Yeah, lets' see....how can we get Obama.....something.....anything.....MAKE IT UP.
Pathetic. Repubs are against my religion.
It is a racial thinking; must be avoided in a multi-cultural society like USA; it will create rift
It should not be politicized .
I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim
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