American Flag Being Banned?

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   romper20posted 13 years ago

   I heard on the news this afternoon that they are trying to ban the American Flag...
   
   Personally this is impossible in my opinion but they said polls said otherwise around the nation.
   
   Tell me what you guys think,
   
   Romper20

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      psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I have no idea what you are referring to.  Of course no one is trying to ban the flag.  I suggest you track down the priginal story and find out what it was really about.

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Ban it from what? Being displayed anywhere?
   
   That would be absurd. The flag is a representation of America.
   
   It should be almost impossible for it to be banned anywhere on U.S. soil. They want to ban it elsewhere, then so be it.

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   Shil1978posted 13 years ago

   Sounds ridiculous to me! Quote your source?

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   Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

   This story is all over the local news.  Maybe this is what the OP is referring to.
   
   http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/06/17/mo … ding-guns/

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   alternate poetposted 13 years ago

   It is clearly about the issue of displaying guns not flags - maybe the OP cannot read ?

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   earnestshubposted 13 years ago

   That is a better explanation alternate poet! The OP cannot read is right!
   I drove past the American Embassy in St Kilda road Melbourne Australia yesterday, the flag is still there!

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   Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

   Ahhhhhhhh, the FoxNews crowd.  Life would be much less entertaining if any of them could read.

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ron this is a huge story on the local news radio shows.  This is all they talked about all day yesterday.  I found the story at fox simply because it had top ranking at google.   Little RI and MA are growing some cojones.

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         Randy Godwinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         There is no doubt they are growing some "nuts."  Referencing Fox News is not a good idea if credibility is the objective!

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            Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I was not looking for credibility.   I was trying to figure out what the OP was referring to.
            
            Fox had the pictures of the hat
            
            Providence Journal:
            
            Coventry school ban of toy soldiers sets off uproar
            
            01:00 AM EDT on Friday, June 18, 2010
            
            By MICHELLE R. SMITH
            
            Associated Press
            
            Christan Morales says her son just wanted to honor American troops when he wore a hat to school decorated with an American flag and small plastic Army figures.
            
            But the hat ran afoul of the district’s no-weapons policy because the toy soldiers were carrying tiny guns.
            
            “His teacher called and said it wasn’t appropriate,” Morales said.
            
            Morales’ 8-year-old son, David, was assigned to make a hat for the day when his second-grade class would meet their pen pals from another school. She and her son came up with an idea to add patriotic decorations to a camouflage hat.
            
            Earlier this week, the Tiogue School in Coventry sent the cap home with David at the end of the day after concluding it violated a zero-tolerance policy for weapons.
            
            The principal told the family that the hat would be fine if David replaced the Army men holding weapons with ones that didn’t have any, according to Supt. Kenneth R. Di Pietro.
            
            Morales said the family had only one Army figure without a weapon (he was carrying binoculars), so David wore a plain baseball cap on the day of the visit.
            
            “Nothing was being done to limit patriotism, creativity, other than find an alternative to a weapon,” Di Pietro said.
            
            The district does not allow images of weapons or drugs on clothing. For example, a student would not be permitted to wear a shirt with a picture of a marijuana leaf on it, the superintendent said.
            
            The principal “wasn’t denying the patriotism,” Di Pietro said. “That just is the wrong and unfair image of one of our finest principals.”
            
            On Thursday, Di Pietro and the principal met with the retired commander of the Rhode Island National Guard, at the commander’s request.
            
            Ret. Lt. Gen. Reginald Centracchio praised the school system for its work in the past supporting the military, including a junior ROTC program.
            
            But he said he disagreed with the decision to ban the hat and hoped it offered a chance for the school to review its policies.
            
            “The American soldier is armed. That’s why they’re called the armed forces,” he said. “If you’re going to portray it any other way, you miss the point.”
            
            He said he intends to give David a medal to express veterans’ appreciation that he would pay tribute to their service.
            
            Morales said her son was inspired to honor the military after striking up a friendship last summer with a neighbor in the Army.
            
            Banning the hat “sent the wrong message to the kids, because it wasn’t in any way to cause any harm to anyone,” she said. “You’re talking about Army men. This wasn’t about guns.”

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         alternate poetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And the media is owned by big business and they are lying to everyone flat out to discredit the opposition to their policies. And their policies are only about amassing more wealth at the expense of the dumbed down population.

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            Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Why would anyone lie about a little boys home made hat.

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               alternate poetposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Lying about WMD gave the last administration supported by its mad-dog media an excuse to carry out the appalling destruction of Iraq - I don't think lying about small things like a hat would be any problem at all !

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                  Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Cranston is like 10 minutes from me,  Believe me the whole hat story (silly as it is) is quite true.

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                  C.J. Wrightposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You see that just sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.......hmm

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      rhamsonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If it's on the television it must be true.
      
      I heard there were some Venutians landed in Hollywood and were looking to buy Americans newborns. 
      
      I heard it.
      
      Really!

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         Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I believe you
         
         

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   Doug Hughesposted 13 years ago

   Was this the wingnut 'Outrage of the Day' post?
   *yawn*

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   Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xzRfR0K … r_embedded
   
   
   AP has reported on this story!

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    TMMasonposted 13 years ago

    I don't know about them banning the flag... I mean?... they wouldn't be able to burn it or spit on anymore, if they actually banned it.

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    PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago

    

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       Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Too funny - with the canned lines from the wingnuts on hubpages.
       
       Lert me see if I have them left to right -
       TeaMMason, TeaK,  Rover Fontes and Fliper

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          Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Why don't you just keep my name out of your farking conversations OK  dougie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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             Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Quit making those right-wing, conspiracy nut, fascist comments, Arthur. :-)

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                Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                The teabaggers love to dish it out but.....

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                   TMMasonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                   the only ones I see attack all opossing opinions is the leant leftists liberal progressives... and all thier foriegner friends. Most of whom are already citizens of a failing socailist or communist country.
                   
                   So... I'll consider the source... and just chuckle at you,k Dougy.

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                      Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Thanks for the morning laugh, I needed it.

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                      Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                      Yeah...Canada is failing
                      
                      http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100620/ap_ … ottawa_way

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                         earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                         Sure! Just like Australia is failing!

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       Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       That's a great cartoon. Only it's reality, not a cartoon.

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    Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

    I am on the lunatic fringe, if someone wants to respond to my posts that's cool.  If they just want to call me out for no reason that is a problem.
    
    Taunting people who someone may disagree with is baiting them in a response to earn a ban.  I guess some (I will not call them hubbers if they barely make an attempt to write any hubs but simply harass those they disagree with in the forums) people feel that there is some kind of badge for getting a hubber banned.  Even better if they get a hubber to leave the site it earns them a big ole Obama sticker to place on their profile?
    
    If ridiculing a hubber is allowed please let me know, I may have a talent for that kind of thing?
    
    I dunno but it doesn't add any fun to the forums.
    
    Sorry for the rant Ralph but I have a hard time containing my opinion.
    
    

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       Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       By all means, folks, go out to the 'Obama is like Jimmy Carter' post and check out the picture Arthur posted.  IMO it was mean-spirited ridicule of two presidents - but that's cool. I believe in free speech - and I believe it goes two ways.
       
       So I return to my previous comment as correct -
       "The teabaggers love to dish it out but..."

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          Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Did i say that it was YOU in the image Doug?

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             Doug Hughesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             *sigh* No, you did not say it was me in the image.
             
             And I did not say you said it was me in the image.
             
             What I said is that you are quite comfortable comparing 2 presidents to comic super-vilians (and that's not offensive), but if I compare your posts to the comic whining of ultra-conservatives, that's offensive.
             
             Ultimately, your complaint is that you reserve unlimited privilege to mock liberals - and that's fine - I believe in free speech - but liberals must be constrained and polite in their response. I'm playing by the same rules as you are - and you want to rewrite the rules so only your team gets to be at bat.

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       KFlippinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       For a little while now it has seemed to me to be this dude's job might be taunting hubbers without anything but twisted basis and bias in order to curtail discussion or run folks off, so maybe we should high five him for staying employed in these trying times.....   At the same time, some of his comments are very well spoken (and spelled) and thought out, albeit reflective of a liberal indoctrination style of rebuttal.
       
       But seriously, I agree with you.  I was included in the so-called humourous insult (I'd have been kicked off for that), but then it may have been the beloved American dolphin immortalized by TV he was trying so pathetically to insult! --  he is a notably bad speller . . .

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          Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I think it is highly possible for a person to lurk around political forums as a volunteer for a political organization.  Not only do I think it is possible, I think it is true.  The President gave the marching orders years ago already.
          
          I do believe there are people who have signed up tp HP simply to bash any conservative members.  You can tell because that is all they do on the site.
          
          Lurk the political forums waiting for a Hubber to post something criticizing the Administration. So they can then harass and taunt them.
          
          I cannot ignore large elephants in the room  LOOK THERE IS A DAMN ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM!

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             Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             You are too used to going to websites and forums who agree with every word you say.

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                Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                
                
                That is not true, I appreciate all opinions and like to ponder on disagreement.  It is how I gain a better personal view of things.
                
                If I was somewhere where everyone agreed, it would be boring.  I enjoy learning and using these forums to chat with people worldwide has been incredibly beneficial to my knowledge.
                
                UW I have learned from you and countless others here at the site.  I enjoy our conversations UW.  Just because a person disagrees with me does not mean "I am Right" to me.  It does give me some great thought processes though and eventually I come to my truth.  Which still does not mean my Truth is right.
                
                If I am ever incorrect UW please point it out to me so that I may learn correctly or at least consider if you are correct. 

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    PrettyPantherposted 13 years ago

    Just for Arthur:
    
    
    
    Can I be Rachel?  Maybe Doug would like to be Keith. 

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       Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       LOL  PP Do you know if it is against tos to post an image and say it is a hubber?  I do not have a problem doing that at all!  I would be very good at it.  I just thought it would be construed as a personal attack.
       
       If for some reason it is not and I will know for sure Monday as I have contacted HP staff.  If it is not?
       
       Let the Ridicule begin!!
       
       
       
       This could be a hubber?

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          PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I have no idea if it is against TOS.  I just know it wouldn't offend me, but if it offends someone else, they have a right to report it and let Hubpages staff judge for themselves.
          
          I would add that a photograph of a real person might be judged differently than a cartoon, but I don't really know that, I'm just speculating. 

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          Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Self portrait?

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             Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             If it was a self portrait, would it offend you?  If it did offend you, in what way would you find it offensive?

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                Ralph Deedsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                I'm not easily offended?

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    
    
    He didn't actually use the real names.

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    Uninvited Writerposted 13 years ago

    "At the same time, some of his comments are very well spoken (and spelled) and thought out, albeit reflective of a liberal indoctrination style of rebuttal."
    
    Proper English is indoctrination?

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       Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       
       
       Very true almost as if more then one person sits behind the keyboard. Almost like a  Uhm an orginization.

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          Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          I think you need a new tin foil hat.

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             Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

             Haven't you heard?  Since they switched from analog to digital signals the hat needs to be made from copper! 

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          Uninvited Writerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

          So, you think it's suspicious that posters on the forum of a writing website write well?

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    Ron Montgomeryposted 13 years ago

    If we ask real nice, will you folks help us fail to the same degree? 

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       earnestshubposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Well, one tip Ron, would be to start one day ahead of everyone except New Zealand.

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    Dominionmaster2posted 13 years ago

    Here we go. I first want to say that if you wish to make fun of me go ahead, it won't do any good cause that 8th grade mentality is beneath me.
       Now with that said, I do not know about the actual banning of the American flag as a whole, but I know there is issue with whether or not it might be offensive to display it in public places and not display other national flags of immigrants from other counties. It is another bunch of political correctness bullshit, that has gotten us to the place we are today which is to say that we are being made to be ashamed of our own patriotism in this country.
        I am not a tea party member or a conspiracy theorist I am a realist with my own mind, able to form my own opinions from facts that I am capable of interpreting for myself.

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       psycheskinnerposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       So you are objecting to a non-existant plan to ban flag display in public spaces. 
       
       That seems like a waste of energy to me.

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    Randy Godwinposted 13 years ago

    It is so funny when the neocons suggest some hubbers are working for the liberal agenda by posting statements against their opinions.  I once wondered the same about them but figured the right would have picked plants with better logic and communication skills. 
    
    But then I remembered how the cons chose Steven Cobert from "The Daily Show" and later "The Cobert Report" to speak at the Dubya roast and he really dogged bush out to the surprise of those attending.  They thought Cobert was a republican!  Bush was shell shocked as he had to just sit and take it.   LOL! 
    
    Now I wonder!  HA!

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    Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

    A whole week without HP forums yet I still Live.
    
    One question??
    
    
    If someone places an image in a thread that is so offensive that the hubber should be reprimanded.  Does it not make sense to snip the image from the thread, so as to not offend others?
    
    I mean seriously if the image was so offensive it deserved a seven day ban why can I still come here and see it,  BTW it still makes me laugh my butt off.

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    MikeNVposted 13 years ago

    New source?
    
    They?

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    Jeff Berndtposted 13 years ago

    U S Flag being recalled
    
    "Manufacturers are addressing the flag's unsafe and potentially lethal alignment of stars and stripes by designing a revised model that they hope will cut down on deaths in the United States and overseas, where experts say the flag is nearly 1,000 times as deadly."

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       PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       Great stuff!  I especially like:
       
       "During the mid-1950s, the flags were found to have the bizarre side effect of causing fear, paranoia, and hysterical behavior among millions of Americans. This was dismissed as an isolated event until September 2001, when similar symptoms reemerged on a massive scale."

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    CYBERSUPEposted 13 years ago

    The greatest flag ever, the American Flag and its Stars and Stripes forever.  All those who wish to band the American Flag should be put in "FOX HOLES" on the front lines like so many of us, to protect our freedom for which this awesome flag stands for.

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