Why don't the so-called Muslims who are in America and other countries go to Iran and live THERE and FIGHT politically or literally for the human rights of that woman and others, instead of bringing the nonsense and terror here and to other God-fearing nations?
This is really a remarkable post. The 2-7 million American muslims, or "so-called" muslims as you call it, should get on planes and go to Islamic theocracies to fight for justice? They should do that rather than spreading terror and nonsense here?
I don't know where to begin. What terror and "nonsense" are 2-7 million American muslims guilty of? Is that the exercise of their faith, trying to raise their families, operating businesses or working at jobs in order to secure a retirement or better future for their children, participating in our political process? Which of these activities is terrorism in your mind? Why should Americans do anything other than the activities I've enumerated? Are you also going to move to another country and fight for justice, or are you going to stay here and live your life?
Why "punish" at all for that which comes naturally to all mammals? We are here to propagate. To replenish the species. Chemistry and hormones are in contol. Only a conscious semi-intelligent creature that could create metaphysical monsters like monotheistic god things would consider punishing for an act that is a powerfully programmed genetic act necessary to insure mammalian survival. Comments? I hope so.
Is anything being done to prevent this from happening? Are signatures being collected? If you haven't seen the film The Stoning of Soraya M. You need to see it. It's a real story - sad, but it's part of the daily life of women who live in remote areas of Iran.
Rajab: The I think you'd better get a better understanding of the world barbaric. Much of mankind lives as it did 6000 yrs ago. BArbarism is still rife amongst the majority of humanity. Just because the "majority" agrees, does not make a punishment NOT barbaric. We humans are a violent lot. It's programming is deeply imbued in our predatory ilk. Contemporary humanity IS barbarically involved in it's own demise!
Alright people, before we get started with blaming Islam as a religion as a whole on the basis of whatever little knowledge many have over the religion ... you should know a number of things about the religion and the punishments it imposes. First of all, Islam originally imposed the punishment of "death by stoning" on those who committed adultery. Prima facie it may seem too harsh and raise the all too common question of trials etc. Let me clarify that though the punishment is indeed a part of the religion, so is the existence of 4 eye witnesses to the act (that is the act of adultery). This punishment falls under what in Islamic law is known as Hadd punishments which means punishments for crimes against God. One of the main offenses under Hadd is Zina which means adultery. However,very high demands are made with regard to evidence on zina. Four witnesses are required instead of the normal two, and they must testify as eyewitnesses to ‘unlawful intercourse’. Correspondingly, a confession of unlawful intercourse for hadd punishment must be made on four separate occasions.
And yes both men and women suffer the same verdict.
exactly my point Ron... It's not everyday that 4 sane human beings will find themselves to be witnessing two other "non-married to each other" couple fornicating... that is why the test is very difficult to pass and Islam originally meant this to be dealt by God in the after life since finding such witnesses would indeed be a rare find...unless of course the participant(s) themselves confessed on 4 separate occasions. Regarding voyeurism...I need to look up whether there are any worldly punishments prescribed...However, I do know that in Islam, it is haram for a man or woman to look upon indecent activities...and they will be punished in the afterlife.
(I don't mean to make light of this topic. It's a serious issue, a symptom of the preoccupation with sexuality on the part of fundamentalist fanatics in many religions. Muslim fanatics may be the worst, but Christian and Jewish fundamentalists suffer from the same malady.)
What's your point? That a person should be demonized and destroyed for performing a perfectly natural act i.e procreation, which this fictitious god/allah thing alledgedly created,as a necessity, within the very "genes" of its alledgedly created children? What is wrong with you weak minded, primitive, short sighted, unevolved human beings who hope for and dream about god things, witches, goblins, wizards and other metaphysical entities in the hope that they may "bless" your "idiocy" with eternal love and immortality? The majority of human life is INSANE.
Even if that was a justification for deliberately meting out a prolonged and agonizing death (Iran's penal code specifically forbids using stones large enough to finish the job in one or two blows), that's not what happened here. She was convicted and sentenced under Iran's "judge's knowledge" rule that allows judges to sentence a person to death even in cases which otherwise have no conclusive evidence for a conviction.
Is lashing more humane than stoning her to death? Yeah, of course.
Does either punishment have any place in a civilized society? Absolutely not.
Compounding the horror is the fact that it's being meted out for adultery, which has no business being a crime punishable by law at all, let alone punishable by death, and the fact that she did not commit adultery in the first place. The supposed relationships (if they actually occurred at all) took place after her husband was already dead.
If anyone is an expert in Iranian law, I was wondering if you could tell me what's the penalty is for having a married man stick his tongue in your ear while you let him pull your hand toward his hard ahmadinejad?
The way I understand it is that the alleged lashes were for "not covering the hair." There is no confirmation from what I read as to if this has actually happened. The death sentence still stands from what I read. Anyone please feel free to correct me I am wrong because I just gave it a quick perusal.
In reference to the question, I guess 99 lashes would be more humane than being stoned to death. This is just on a comparative degree. As others have said neither is humane.
Just thinking about it is sickening. Those are awful punishments and appear extremely hateful. It would be nice if we could do something but Iran unfortunately is not keen on listening to us.
You have to think about one thing though. These people are stuck in ancient times. In the bible days, that was the norm with almost the entire world. They feel it is the law. It wasn't just "Bible people" who did this. It was the entire world. They had harsh laws!
It doesn't make it less cruel, it is still horrible! I think they should stand up against such cruelty...but they wont. They believe it is normal! Just as we think it is normal to go to prison if you steal something.
I don't know why they are stuck in ancient history times. One would think they would have changed over time.
You realize this is a tradition in their country! It is like us shaking hands! Again, this goes back to ancient times! They greet each other with a hug/kiss on the lips. It's not meant as sexual. It is merely greeting.
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