ZERO! He's a failure on every level! The economy...F, Foreign policy... F, I'd give him an A+ in lies though!
Presidents don't have any control over the economy.
They can only steal money from one group of people, and then apportion it to another.
He is a victim, only paying for things (bad things) done by his predecessor.
and yet, he hasn't changed any of his predecessor's policies.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Patriot Act, Bombing Pakistan, Gitmo's still open.
Quit making excuses and blaming it on Bush. Obama's been president for, what? 3 years now?
He could have ended the war with a stroke of the pen - he's the head of the executive branch and Congress never declared war: they gave him complete authority.
Gitmo could've been shut down in the first hour of his presidency. instead the American gulag remains open.
He could have passed healthcare reform. He could have passed Financial Reform. The stark treaty and he could have allowed the nation to slide into depression. He could have allowed the American Auto Industry to fail and nations unemployment to be worst. It's a wonder and a disappointment to the right he got anything done.
He could have repealed the Patriot Act on day one by saying "I refuse to enforce this"; the same for Iraq and Afghanistan, and Pakistan. He could have shut down Gitmo in the first minute.
Those are all presidential powers.
instead, he's proven himself to be a shell of a moral man.
Way to go, girl!
I'd give him a 3. But now this means that Jimmy Carter is no longer the nation's worst president, right?
With what purpose in mind?
Why rate him?
8. Not the best ever, but I think many people fail to realize that most of what he has done so far has been with long-term improvement in mind. He is not governing purely to stay in office and gain approval, he is trying to implement policies and ideas that will help America in the long run.
I think when he leaves office he will be remembered as a greater man than most gave him credit for.
umm.. no, he said he wants to undermine America's foundation. And that's what he's doing.
He gets an 10 from ACORN and Planned Parenthood, I'm sure.
A big 0 from this citizen.
The big O gets a 0.
He has never said that. In fact I googled the words "obama 'undermine america's foundation'" to check if in fact he had. The first result? Your comment. If Obama had said anything of the sort it would have been all over my search results. It's a sign of a very bad argument if you have to make your entire point up.
Planned Parenthood is an excellent organization (whether you're pro-choice or pro-life doesn't come into it; it provides services other than abortion, and has provided many women living in poverty with a safety net, education and contraception they dearly need). ACORN no longer exists, it became defunct in November 2010.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Says you wormdo.
Changing the foundation is the same as undermining it. There've been threads arguing about that before, and the facts win.
Argue all you want, but I've listened closely to what Obama's policies are from the start.
What "facts"? You haven't brought any up in this entire discussion. You've told blatant lies and when confronted on them backpeddled on the lie you originally told.
In fact looking over your profile I'm appalled to learn you're old enough to have grandchildren. Shouldn't you know how to conduct an adult discussion at this point, instead of resorting to immature comebacks like "ummm well says you!"?
Tell ya what....the minute you start being civil instead of telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, then I might be able to take you seriously.
I gave you facts a few minutes ago. Google that, if you dare to define what comes out of O's mouth.
I'm being perfectly civil. I see none of the facts you gave me. I would appreciate it if you repeated them for my benefit, as when I reread your comments I only see claims I have already confirmed are false, and your own opinions.
Sorry, but I've become tired of pointing out the obvious about Obama. If almost everyone in America hasn't figured out his devious agenda by now, it would waste my breath to tell 'em again.
You have hands and eyes. Research it yourself.
Translation: "I have no facts for you, my argument is based on blind hatred and hysteria."
Okay. That's about what I was expecting.
In keeping with the subject of this thread, you get a big fat F for falsely accusing me of hatred.
Reseach that too if you want.
Would you say turning America into a socialist democracy is undermining the foundation of America? What did Obama mean by hope and change? What did Obama mean by " fundamentally transform" America? Transform her into what?
The problem with those on the left us they wont reveal the truth of their agenda but its clear to anyone that looks closely they want a central authority an elimination of states power and a redistributive governance to impose "economic fairness" and "social justice" on its citizens. If that isn't the destruction of America, I don't know what is!
The man said he wants to "fundamentally transform America"....it doesn't get much clearer than that....
I hope you don't mind but I feel the need to jump in on your behalf. Wormdo, my Google search resulted in many more results than this thread. Here's a few for you to peruse:
http://drdanny.newsvine.com/_news/2010/ … c-recovery
http://www.dakotavoice.com/2009/04/the- … rica-team/
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/babeu-a … /id/370593
Those are just 4 examples of the several hundred thousand available.
Any facts to offer up, or just more wingnut nonsense?
Thank you MyJourney.
It gets so tiresome trying to field the insults and accusations of hatred and/or racism from liberals who carry preconceived notions about anyone who points out Obama's agenda.
Thanks lady_love too.
He's not George Bush, so that starts him at 5. He really pisses off teabaggers so we'll give him another point. He's contributing to the unemployment problem by keeping his haters glued to these forums instead of being out there at least TRYING to find jobs with their severely limited skills. Minus 1/2. He hasn't invaded any countries or redefined torture as "enhanced interrogation" plus 2. He stopped the country from spiraling into another Republican led depression, that's at least 2.
Let's just use GlenBeck math and make him a -1.
In answer to the originl question, I guess on a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate him at a 4. I think he does a lot more talking than acting and inserts himself into areas that do not require (and/or should not have) Presidential involvement.
Admittedly I am a fan of George W Bush, but I am also a fan of Bill Clinton, so this is not a "straight down the party line" assessment. I honestly don't believe that Obama is strengthening our country - I think he is attempting to (and possibly succeeding in) make it weaker.
It seems kind of silly to quantify his performance with a number, but I can't resist playing. I would estimate that I support about 60-70% of what he has done or said, so I would rate him a 6.5. I'm hoping that will be higher once his second term is finished.
Borrowing this scale, I'm in the 50-60% range, so I'll give him about a 5.5. A vast improvement over his predecessor, who runs about a 0.25 and managed to do something to infuriate me virtually every day for 8 years, but as Evan has pointed out several times, he's kept way too many of Bush's stupidest and most unconstitutional policies in place, punted or backtracked on several campaign promises that were important to me, and generally been too much of a mixed bag to endorse as anything more than the lesser of two evils.
I'd rate him at 7.5. 10 compaired to our last president. He entered the job with lots of obsticles and in some cases in a no win situation. Faces a lot of predjudice from a lot of people in this country on top of it all.
unfortunately he hasn't corrected any of the mistakes of the last pres
Patriot act, iraq, afghan, pakistan, gitmo.
Every President enters the job facing obstacles and, if you look at history, most if not all have faced some sort of prejudice from those that did not agree with their views and policies.
My Journey: You are !00% right there is nothing unique about President Obama. I can't think of but a few War time President faced with a depression and not getting any support what so ever from the opposing political party. As a matter of fact, I can't think any other presidents with the exception of Washington and Lincoln. Washington and Lincoln had many obstacles and in the mist of it nobody wanted their jobs. The job Obama excepted no sane republican wanted, not with the obstacles.
We ALL knew Obama never did anything in his life deserving to be awarded the title of President.
There were two unqualified men running for president. I voted for the most qualified unqualified man (Obama). I only hoped he could just cower there for 4 years (just as he had done as a IL state senator and then as a US Senator), then we could vote someone in who was qualified. Well, the USA is deficient in a leader. The WORLD is deficient in a leader.
This same scenario play out under Carter. REMEMBER? “The moral equivalent of every man for himself…”
I'd give him a 7 so far, but it's still too soon to see how he'll end up.
I'll rate him at a 5. Early on, he was so set on promoting his socialist agenda that he did not promote any ideas for resolving America's economic problems. He spent a great amount of time selling healthcare but he failed to put a good team together to teach him how to implement the program. I believe that Canada and Mexico have national healthcare. He might have asked. He has not yet shown any great leadership skills.
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