He could have passed healthcare reform. He could have passed Financial Reform. The stark treaty and he could have allowed the nation to slide into depression. He could have allowed the American Auto Industry to fail and nations unemployment to be worst. It's a wonder and a disappointment to the right he got anything done.
8. Not the best ever, but I think many people fail to realize that most of what he has done so far has been with long-term improvement in mind. He is not governing purely to stay in office and gain approval, he is trying to implement policies and ideas that will help America in the long run.
I think when he leaves office he will be remembered as a greater man than most gave him credit for.
He has never said that. In fact I googled the words "obama 'undermine america's foundation'" to check if in fact he had. The first result? Your comment. If Obama had said anything of the sort it would have been all over my search results. It's a sign of a very bad argument if you have to make your entire point up.
Planned Parenthood is an excellent organization (whether you're pro-choice or pro-life doesn't come into it; it provides services other than abortion, and has provided many women living in poverty with a safety net, education and contraception they dearly need). ACORN no longer exists, it became defunct in November 2010.
Changing the foundation is the same as undermining it. There've been threads arguing about that before, and the facts win. Argue all you want, but I've listened closely to what Obama's policies are from the start.
What "facts"? You haven't brought any up in this entire discussion. You've told blatant lies and when confronted on them backpeddled on the lie you originally told.
In fact looking over your profile I'm appalled to learn you're old enough to have grandchildren. Shouldn't you know how to conduct an adult discussion at this point, instead of resorting to immature comebacks like "ummm well says you!"?
I'm being perfectly civil. I see none of the facts you gave me. I would appreciate it if you repeated them for my benefit, as when I reread your comments I only see claims I have already confirmed are false, and your own opinions.
Would you say turning America into a socialist democracy is undermining the foundation of America? What did Obama mean by hope and change? What did Obama mean by " fundamentally transform" America? Transform her into what? The problem with those on the left us they wont reveal the truth of their agenda but its clear to anyone that looks closely they want a central authority an elimination of states power and a redistributive governance to impose "economic fairness" and "social justice" on its citizens. If that isn't the destruction of America, I don't know what is!
He's not George Bush, so that starts him at 5. He really pisses off teabaggers so we'll give him another point. He's contributing to the unemployment problem by keeping his haters glued to these forums instead of being out there at least TRYING to find jobs with their severely limited skills. Minus 1/2. He hasn't invaded any countries or redefined torture as "enhanced interrogation" plus 2. He stopped the country from spiraling into another Republican led depression, that's at least 2.
In answer to the originl question, I guess on a scale of 1 to 10, I would rate him at a 4. I think he does a lot more talking than acting and inserts himself into areas that do not require (and/or should not have) Presidential involvement.
Admittedly I am a fan of George W Bush, but I am also a fan of Bill Clinton, so this is not a "straight down the party line" assessment. I honestly don't believe that Obama is strengthening our country - I think he is attempting to (and possibly succeeding in) make it weaker.
It seems kind of silly to quantify his performance with a number, but I can't resist playing. I would estimate that I support about 60-70% of what he has done or said, so I would rate him a 6.5. I'm hoping that will be higher once his second term is finished.
Borrowing this scale, I'm in the 50-60% range, so I'll give him about a 5.5. A vast improvement over his predecessor, who runs about a 0.25 and managed to do something to infuriate me virtually every day for 8 years, but as Evan has pointed out several times, he's kept way too many of Bush's stupidest and most unconstitutional policies in place, punted or backtracked on several campaign promises that were important to me, and generally been too much of a mixed bag to endorse as anything more than the lesser of two evils.
I'd rate him at 7.5. 10 compaired to our last president. He entered the job with lots of obsticles and in some cases in a no win situation. Faces a lot of predjudice from a lot of people in this country on top of it all.
My Journey: You are !00% right there is nothing unique about President Obama. I can't think of but a few War time President faced with a depression and not getting any support what so ever from the opposing political party. As a matter of fact, I can't think any other presidents with the exception of Washington and Lincoln. Washington and Lincoln had many obstacles and in the mist of it nobody wanted their jobs. The job Obama excepted no sane republican wanted, not with the obstacles.
We ALL knew Obama never did anything in his life deserving to be awarded the title of President.
There were two unqualified men running for president. I voted for the most qualified unqualified man (Obama). I only hoped he could just cower there for 4 years (just as he had done as a IL state senator and then as a US Senator), then we could vote someone in who was qualified. Well, the USA is deficient in a leader. The WORLD is deficient in a leader.
This same scenario play out under Carter. REMEMBER? “The moral equivalent of every man for himself…”
I'll rate him at a 5. Early on, he was so set on promoting his socialist agenda that he did not promote any ideas for resolving America's economic problems. He spent a great amount of time selling healthcare but he failed to put a good team together to teach him how to implement the program. I believe that Canada and Mexico have national healthcare. He might have asked. He has not yet shown any great leadership skills.
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