Obama The Weakest President Ever?

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   lady_love158posted 13 years ago

   http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/235 … n-history-
   
   Sure he's still popular in Europe but if this piece from the UK is any indication that's likely to change! With Obama's 2012 campaign in full swing it's not likely he'll do anything to upset his base but that also means he probably wont be doing anything to fix our problems either. Our economy will continue to stagnate the government will probably be shut down since he has no courage to cut anything unemployment will remain high and spending will likely accelerate as we become embroiled ( finally) with the Libya situation. I can't see how Obama can possibly win reelection he's a total embarrasment!

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      weakest ...well not...if he would have been weak , he wont have tried to become president after dumbest completed his term...oh wait a minute...yes obama would be dumbest president since he could not see that he is taking term after worst president ruled usa....yes i would go by obama being dumbest ...

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         BillyDRitchieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Does anybody think that there will ever come a day when any criticism of President Obama is actually addressed beyond the level of "Well, Bush was a moron"?

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            DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Do you think Lady Love can start a forum post that doesn't slam the sh1t out of the president? I mean seriously - during the Clinton years even the militia crowd wasn't as "toxic" as this woman is. This woman has called him a socialist, a communist, a "hater of America,"etc, etc. I never cared for W and I did think he was a moron - even more so after having read his book, but I never devoted my life to his fu*k ups, his weaknesses, his incompetency, etc. Have any Conservatives on here given any thought to what Lady Love's true motives are? I mean I am not the only one to have serious doubts as to who she really is.
            
            For a liberal there isn't anything "worse" than the Tea Party. That being said, how many forum topics do the liberals create slamming the Tea Party? Not many by comparison...

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               lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               My motives are simply and pure educate everyone of the evil of liberalism the democrats and Obama. I've never been shy about that or tried to hide it and I have posted links to prove my case.

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                  DTR0005posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  And our motive may be to expose you for who you really are... I have noticed that when confronted with the accusation of being a "plant" or being on some "insterest group's payroll," you have never out and out denied it - interesting to say the least....
                  
                  Becasue there has never been a more vehement cheerleader for the conservative cause than you. You are like a little propoganda generating machine. Where there's smoke, there's fire Lady Love.
                  
                  You seem to be fairly well-educated. And well-educated people, on either side, tend to find some common ground - on some issues at least.. You do not - ever. And this adds support to the accusation that you are indeed just on someone's payroll to spread your vile hatred.
                  
                  But shame on all of us-  we empower you each time we respond to forums.
                  
                  And I have my doubts as to whether a true "mover and shaker" in your industry would DARE speak out in favor of either side for fear of blow-back from your corporation or industry. Of course if you are just an ordinary drug rep or territory sales manager, it wouldn't make much difference as long as you stayed under cover.

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                     lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Lol! Im not a plant! What nonsense! Take off the tin hat and stop looking for the Koch brothers around every corner!

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                        recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        You are not a plant you are a shil.  Can you point me to where I can earn money by putting up harassment threads, it looks like easy pickings and probably better pay than Adsense right now.

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         Misty39posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think Obama has his hands full beyond repair,the economy is spiraling  down hill fast,It will be years and many presidents later trying to clean this mess up.And yes sad to admit that this was in fact Bush'es doing the only legacy he left behind was his ignorance and an IQ of 90+
         During which time USA is struggling,the media never takes a breather from reminding us of other poor countries are doing worse then we are.
         Whose side are we on and who is helping who? Pretty soon I might be taking the place of the homeless.It's a struggle staying above water.
         All we can do is keep praying for help with those in greater need.

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      recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I notice the continuous string of threads, each a differnet attack on Obama personally - I guess someone is paying you to keep up the barrage ?

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         lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Oh and what should I do post praise for every post of criticism of Obama? Are you one of those socialist liberals that favor FAIR speech over FREE speech?

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            recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I am not anything that you can call names at.
            
            I just wondered if you are being paid to post so many anti Obamam threads here, seems like a god job if you are.  I wouldn't mind an income stream like that.  Where do I apply ?

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   khmohsinposted 13 years ago

   He is not the weakest president, I think whenever the president of America gets weaker then he will be no more for president

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   frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

   I can't believe that so many people are of the mind that one individual is responsible for so much. They are front of house, the face, customer service.
   
   Do you really think that any one gov inc head is sat at work deciding the fates and lives of millions of people?

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      lady_love158posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I love this... always looking for ways to absolve Obama from any culpability as if he's just a figure head instead the leader of the free world! Yes Obama has no power to do anything... except make our lives miserable.

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         frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yep ok. Glad you've got a good grip.

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            canadawest99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I do agree.  He had so much promise but was sabotaged by various interest groups.    First he was hit by a group of racists that eventually morphed into the tea party that then lied and created false accusations which sabotaged his agenda and then brought the republican congress in which now Obama has to cowtow to.    Is Obama weak, or was he sabaotaged by the Washington self interest machine?

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               DannyMaioposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               weak! even his weak speech to gadafi! weak! now off to brazil for spring break with family. Why aren't the democrats mad? many are suffering here and he goes on another vacation. and brackets, and basketball and golf and fund-raising. his priorities are really messed up. Hillary is talking more presidential then he is about the Libya situation.

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                  maven101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What is there to expect from a guy who 6 years ago was carrying a clipboard around town organizing special interest groups, hanging with radical leftists, and being indoctrinated by Alinsky acolytes..? A man who has yet to be transparent re his college or birth data...An elitist that sneered at " these Americans that continue to hold on to their guns and religion "...who's only foreign policy experience was a visit to the Chicago International House of Pancakes...
                  The weakest president ever ?...This is beyond weak, this is about incompetence on a tsunami scale...his entire administration is riddled with inexperienced, untested, leftist academics, excluding the baffled and clueless Biden...

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                     PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Excellent regurgitation of the right-wing talking points about Obama.  You get an "A" for memorization.
                     
                     I won't do the same from the left, but instead will agree with crazyhorsesghost that we must stop pitting left against right and start banding together against the entrenched money interests who are using wedge issues to keep us distracted from their thievery.
                     
                     With regard to the OP, Obama is far from the weakest president ever, but he is a pragmatist who often settles for something rather than nothing.

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                        maven101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Pragmatic..? The only pragmatic activity I've seen from Obama is his acuity in predicting basketball outcomes on his bracket spreadsheets...

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                           PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           Really?  This country was "together" before Obama was elected?  You could've fooled me.
                           
                           And I agree with you that free markets are not driving this country apart.  The markets have not been free for a very long time; they have been hi-jacked by the uber-wealthy and a certain proportion of our citizens have been hoodwinked into supporting those who game the system.
                           
                           I would not call predicting basketball outcomes a pragmatic activity; I would call it a mental break.  But, hey, you're entitled to think so.

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                              maven101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                              
                              
                              I would call it a mental breakdown...France and Britain are baffled by his indecisiveness...Hillary is flustered, frustrated, and flabbergasted by his lack of leadership in foreign policy dynamics...
                              Look, I understand that you have strong pro-Obama leanings, and would probably defend his actions ( or lack thereof ) regardless of opposing views...The mere fact that you take the time to participate in a political forum shows you are intellectually engaged in the national debate and will " cling " to your beliefs much like those maligned Americans cling to their guns and religion...

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                                 John Holdenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 I'd hardly call the Express indicative of British thinking, more ultra right wing thinking!
                                 We aren't baffled by his indecisiveness! We don't see him as indecisive.

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                                 PrettyPantherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                                 1) I challenge you to provide evidence, in the form of direct quotes from English and British officials, that they are baffled by Obama's indecisiveness.  In addition, please provide a direct quote from Hillary Clinton that indicates she is "flustered, frustrated, and flabbergasted by his lack of leadership in foreign policy dynamics."  Once again, you have magnificently parroted the building right-wing meme that Obama is disengaged from foreign policy.  I'm asking you to back up that meme with actual evidence, not just commentary or analysis or opinion.
                                 
                                 2) While I voted for Obama and generally support him, he has disappointed me in a hundred different ways, and I would not defend many of his policies, most notably the escalation of the conflict in Afghanistan. 
                                 
                                 3) You can continue to flog him for his statement about clinging to guns and religion and I'm sure you will, but the fact is he was dead on.  Those who are secure in their beliefs, which include many of my neighbors here in rural Missouri, did not take offense at that comment.  The local newspaper here devotes large sections to reporting on the happenings at the local churches.  They also run front page photos of children who have bagged their first deer, some as young as 6 years old, kneeling over the carcass, holding the head by the antlers with one hand and gun propped up with the other hand.  There IS a culture of guns and religion in middle America.  So what if he mentioned it?  It shows he has an understanding of it.

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               junkoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Wall Street, BIg Business and Big Insurance they all conspired to make him a one term president. While the games were being played with the president the nation and the constitution is on a very slippery slope. If american money is no good, americans are all poor.

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                  Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Hey Junko, America is broke and has been for decades.

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                     junkoposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Cagsil:  So what's new? Solving that problem is being approached from the bottom up, that's wrong. We have had the problem for decades. Freeze defense spending, bring the boys and girls home. Invest in american jobs. Don't attack the poor and needy first, they don't have any money. Ask the greedy they got the money, don't take it, borrow it.

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                        Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Nothing new with me, what's new with you. (j/k)
                        Actually, the approach government uses to deal with the Economy is wrong. I wrote a hub on it and called it Degeneration of Value.
                        Actually ever since the inception of America, which is a lot longer than even a few decades.
                        I wouldn't freeze all defense spending, but would lessen it quite a bit. Bring all troops back home isn't feasible.
                        Invest in American jobs isn't the whole answer, because unskilled and skilled workers? We need a market where there are more skilled workers than unskilled. Meaning, investment in Education is required.
                        Agreed. Attack people who don't have money is foolish. Helping them learn how to get more money would be prudent, which is why I endorse education above all else.
                        The government needs to be more efficient with regards to spending. It receives plenty of money, but it is the politicians and their backdoor waterways for distribution of the wealth in which they get already, that is the direct problem.

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                  recommend1posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  About right I would say in principal, but all Americans are not poor, the balance between the average Joe and the very few super wealthy ensure there is not enough in the system to go around.  The western economical models all start with an ever increasing pool of wealth and a migration of that wealth to a few people - time for a change in the economic thinking I would say.  The west has been in economic crisis for over forty years now and only sustains itself through arms and aggressive semi-colonisations - the military and the financial corporations are in charge, time to get the power back with the people maybe,  get the democratic process actually working as it is constantly advertised.

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                  Misty39posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  What I can't figure out is why is this country so short of money? It showed on national TV where the white house was printing up loads of money,whats up with that? Bush Sr. and Russia was hand in hand for years,there was fair trades between the both guns from USA for what ever.....It was mentioned that it was Russia that kept our free or cheap medical in tact for many years,I wonder what happened?

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                     Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Greedy powerful politicians is why it's short on money. Not to mention, America has been broke for more years than I care to count.

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               Misty39posted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Possibly........

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   tony0724posted 13 years ago

   All I know is the world is in turmoil from the mideast to Japan , and the President's contributions this week were his final four picks , and now he is whooping it up in Rio. Actions speak louder then words.

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      canadawest99posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Obama can't put those fires out, nor can anyone in the west.  That should tell you something very important about what is happening in the world today.
      
      Hint:  the west is a diminishing power because we have shot ourselves in the foot chasing higher "growth" that is an illusion with an exponential debt burden which was used to grow other countries manufacturing bases which they will eventually use to service their own people, not us.

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      Misty39posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Maybe he has a reason for being in Rio,business or some thing,but he deserves a break,I sure wouldn't want to walk in his shoes for one minute.

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         logic,commonsenseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Probably looking for a hot chick at Carnival!

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   Cagsilposted 13 years ago

   Tea Party = Tinkerbell Party.

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   barryrutherfordposted 13 years ago

   So you were expected Obama to go in all guns blazing after the experienc of two tragic wars the United States & its Allies have conducted over the last decade.
   I beleive Obama has done the right thing in letting the Arab league take the lead on this issues 7 good on them for doing so.  Obama has enough to dela with on his plate domestically Including unravelling the damage cuased by the last presidency.

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      DannyMaioposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Then he should not have said he has to go! once you make a statement like that and he doesn't go, you look like a fool! I personally think Hilary is acting more presidential then he is!

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      2 thumbs up Barry!
      Qwark

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   http://riogringa.typepad.com/my_weblog/ … genda.html
   
   For those who think Obama's primary purpose in visiting Brazil is to attend carnivale, think again. This article gives the play-by-play on his jam-packed agenda.
   The last paragraph is particularly noteworthy.
   Apparently, Brazilian diplomacy is NOT for weaklings .
   
   "It may seem like a simple mission, but in Brazil, everything's more complicated, and Obama will have to tread extremely lightly, as his every word and move are dissected in Brazil and by those of us watching in the US. Brazilians won't just be listening to Obama's speech; they will be watching his interactions, his treatment of Brazilian counterparts, and sound bites on his thoughts on Brazil. There's no wiggle room - he has to be on point. If he can strike a balance between polite deference, respect, and a sense of humility, with a healthy dose of effusive praise for Brazil, he may be able to win people over."

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Mom
      
      Read this part
      
      But it's not all warm fuzziness and hugs. Obama does have in Brazil, the only foreign leader with over 50 percent. That is a good thing, Obama dose well with Muslims countries too.
      
      That 's better than the last President Bush, the most dislike President around the world, plus your 2nd worst President choice ever

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      Misty39posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think if Obama won his campagne for presidency with his speeches, I do think he will do very well in Brazil,I have faith in him.Also I think he's doing his very best.If I was elected .....I would have been gone the very first week there   lol  chuckles on my way out

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      DannyMaioposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      http://hubpages.com/hub/AMERICAN-INVESTMENT
      
      I read this a while ago and looks like he was right on!

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   Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

   Bush is actually my #1 worst choice by a large margin.
   I was just trying not to be so "predictable" in my anti-Bush sentiments .
   Your reasoning on W's "accomplishment" is sound.
   Stupid or just despotic -- he and Cheney were the worst.

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      Castlepalomaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      We have something in common

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   Misty39posted 13 years ago

   I cannot understand why any one would vote Bush in twice? Wasn't once enough?  lol

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      After his first term , bush was given second chance since USA and World could not believe that such a person could become president. USA thought oh well may be we forgot to see his genius in first four years , lets try him again and it is his genius that saw USA fall...none could have manage to do what he did...In fact it is his achievement that what russia could not achieve , what china could not achieve , he achieved . He made USA economy sink and made USA ranked 2 from no 1 in list of most powerful country...

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    frogdroppingposted 13 years ago

    And you think the HP forum is the way to do it?
    
    Write hubs about them, backlink them. Better yet start your own website, backlink that and get your 'word' out.
    
    Like I said before - Obama isn't your problem. He's just the tail end. Wag the dog.

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    jaymelee23posted 13 years ago

    People want a god instead of a president. Someone who will snap his or her fingers and make things better in a flash. It's just simply not going to happen when our country does not produce the goods that we once did many years ago.
    
    People provide services to each other in the US in various industries for income --- health, law, energy, law enforcement, government, insurance, finance, education, or retail. Rather than "goods and services," the US economy is stuck in the "services" only part.
    
    It's a cycle, you go to work at what ever service type of job that you have then spend your money on insurance for your car that contributes to Joe Schmoe's income. You then gas up your car and pay tax on the gasoline that goes to John Doe's wages as a road worker and to material costs for road upkeep. Then your property tax goes to education to pay for teacher salaries etc. Ooops then a incident happens on the way home from work. You get into a fender bender and hurt yourself. Now you need to seek out the services of someone in the health field -- nurses, doctors etc. But guess what? That person that you got into a fender bender with is now suing you. Guess you need to seek out the services of an attorney. You go to court to fight the case where your taxes are paying for the government courthouse, judges and staff. Get the point? It just goes around and around in a cycle.
    
    I'm afraid that the US government should of did something many years ago when corporations started moving to China and other countries where workers will work for slave wages. For example, Google pays very little corporate taxes. They're set up in many different countries where they funnel money back and forth until it reaches a country that does not tax or taxes only peanuts. If you read this: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-cal … 72080.html There is nothing illegal about all this. Google's income shifting is tax avoidance, not tax evasion. The strategy, known as "income shifting," moves Google's profits through Ireland and the Netherlands to Bermuda. This is very common with corporations. Google's tax rate is a little over 2 percent! A Google spokeswoman said that "Google's practices are very similar to those at countless other global companies operating across a wide range of industries."
    
    It's gone on for so long now that what really is the answer. Corporations and Wall Street has done this to America. However, the government has allowed these practices with loopholes.

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       DannyMaioposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       anything in the huffintonpost is BS!! get a real source. and not MSMBC either

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          jaymelee23posted 13 years agoin reply to this

          Here you go Danny:
          
          The Tax Haven That's Saving Google Billions - BusinessWeek
          http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/co … 146825.htm
          
          Google and Other U.S. Companies Dodge Billions in Taxes, Bloomberg Reports - ABC News
          http://abcnews.go.com/WN/google-loophol … d=11939752
          You can watch a Diane Sawyer video on this page also.
          
          Google avoids £100m UK tax - The Times Online
          http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u … 122329.ece
          
          Here's another news video:
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-5Q7WQUvbA

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       prettydarkhorseposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       right, but then corporations and companies are composed of people. Are human predisposed to greed? if you fail to adapt to changes in economic changes - taxation etc. you lose. Humans are ingenius as well.

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    knolyourselfposted 13 years ago

    "Are human predisposed to greed?". Could be said they are when they are worth nothing otherwise - original sin - born worthless and have to accumulate their
    sense of significance.

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    crazyhorsesghostposted 13 years ago

    President Obama like almost all other democrats and republicans is not going to be able to fix America. Its really sad the way the politicians of both parties keep people preaching the party lines of the two political parties that do not work. And the Tea Party waiting in the wings is not going to fix America either.
    
    To fix America would take hard decisions that would not work for the politicians of either party. It would require the below or something similar.
    
    1. Textile Imports into America would have to be stopped and the Textile Industry allowed to come back. Hundreds of thousands of textile jobs have been lost. Whole towns and cities in the American south have been destroyed. And the Democrats and Republicans both stood by while it happened. Oh by the way both parties kept you distracted with political spin while they did it.
    
    2. Do you know that in New Orleans 14.000 homeless people live in the streets and another 300.000 people have no where to come home to. A block or two away from the tourist areas New Orleans looks much the same as it did right after the hurricane. And the Republicans And Democrats keep the spin going and your mind off the problem.
    
    3. 46 Million Americans live at or near poverty level. Where did the American Dream go. It was stolen while the politicians of both parties keep giving you the spin so your mind won't be on the real problems like tens of thousands of American Seniors who have to choose between medicine and food. And the hungry American children are right there.
    
    Not one more American dime should go over seas as long as we have these problems here in America. To hell with the problems of other countries. America has many real problems that are destroying America but the politicians of both parties keep up the spin and keep you from seeing the real problems. I say throw all the politicians out of office and start over. If not America is doomed to become a third world country. Much of America like the American Indian Reservations are already far below poverty level. But the average American Politician doesn't care one way or the other. They just want to keep lining their pockets with the lobbyists money.
    
    Don't let them keep feeding you the political spin. Wake up America its later than you think.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    This statement appears to be a contradiction in terms.
    If one is "intellectually engaged" in a debate, does that not mean one is using one's reasoning power? Thinking? Seeing more than one side?
    Engaging in the debate would seem to me to be the antithesis of "clinging" to beliefs. Beliefs by their nature are not intellectual.
    
    I don't recall Obama's exact words, but I believe the context for the "cling to their guns and religion" comment was with respect to when people get scared that's what they do.
    Plenty of people are scared now.
    Some of us wish guns and religion could solve this nation's problems. But not only is that oversimplistic, it's impossible.

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    Mighty Momposted 13 years ago

    Obama is "weakening the office of the president" and should "step aside for the good of the country."
    
    Hot-off-the-Faux-News-press talking points?
    Not hardly. Posited as early as November 2010 in the op ed pages of the Washington Post!
    
    What will they think of next?

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