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TV commercials to bust Obama's eligibility wide open

  1. OLYHOOCH profile image62
    OLYHOOCHposted 6 years ago

    See the ad designed to go over the heads of media establishment

    Posted: March 27, 2011
    6:48 pm Eastern

    2011 WorldNetDaily


    WASHINGTON  Two-time No. 1 New York Times bestselling author Jerome Corsi, a Ph.D. in political science from Harvard and a senior staff writer at WND, has written a new book that promises to be a game-changer on the issue of Barack Obama's eligibility.

    It's called "Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is Not Eligible to Be President."

    The result of more than two years of solid investigative research by Corsi and a team of WND reporters and editors, this book is destined to be a huge bestseller and change the dynamics of the debate over eligibility IF, of course, the book is not spiked by the hostile establishment media when it is officially released in May.

    Advance orders for this book from retailers across the U.S. already suggest it will be Corsi's third No. 1 New York Times bestseller  probably bigger than the previous two.

    "Imagine how that will change the character of the debate on this critical constitutional issue," says Joseph Farah, editor and chief executive officer of WND and WND Books, the publisher of "Where's the Birth Certificate?" "Therefore, we have a strategy for promoting this book far and wide going right over the heads of the hopelessly biased and politically correct press. But we need your help to pull it off."

    A series of television ads are now in production to ensure this book cannot be spiked by the Big Media. WND needs to raise hundreds of thousands of dollars to air these commercials on television networks and stations throughout the country.


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    1. profile image0
      Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      WND? Seriously? Are you seriously using WND as a resource? Wow.

      Let's try this...when did they demand to see any white President's birth certificate? When everyone involved, the governor, hospital staff, 3 different announcements in papers on that very day from Hawaii, and a cert of live birth presented in accordance with the state law...and these people STILL refuse to acknowledge facts...how is it anything, absolutely ANYTHING other than flat our racism?

      1. Jim Hunter profile image61
        Jim Hunterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        ".when did they demand to see any white President's birth certificate?"

        I suspect that every white president was asked to produce a birth certificate to prove they were Natural Born citizens.

        Well, since they started issuing birth certificates.

        Do you have proof otherwise?

        1. Ron Montgomery profile image59
          Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Following the Jim Hunter method:

          Glenn Beck is rumored to have engaged in sex acts with sheep.

          Can you prove otherwise?

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Baaah Baaah *sob* *sob* Baaah Baaah *sniffle* *sob*

          2. dingdondingdon profile image59
            dingdondingdonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I do not have proof otherwise, and have just made up on the spot that Glenn Beck was once spotted leaving a mountain goat's boudoir. Connection? I think so!

        2. profile image0
          Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You can suspect all you want, but nope...they haven't. Can YOU prove otherwise?

        3. profile image0
          Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I suspect that you may be a Yemeni, working with right wing activists, in hopes of provoking the US into a war with as many middle east countries as possible, in order to bring about the second coming of Jesus. Can you prove otherwise? See how that works?

          1. DannyMaio profile image57
            DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            according to this post your an anti-Semite!!!! i NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT RACE BUT HERE YOU CLEARLY STATE YOU HATE JEWS! your the racist one. truth comes out subconsciously.

      2. DannyMaio profile image57
        DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        There we go again! when the liberals can not show 1000% proof the race card comes up! so typical. just for your information a certificate of live birth is not I repeat NOT a birth certificate! where is the doctors name? hospital? anyone, even his sister who was born in another country received a certificate of live birth! also we know and seen pictures of Barry in an Indonesia school! did any other president have more than one name and go to school and list they are an Indonesian resident? the Pics in muslim garb was not made up they are real. did you read his books???? clearly shows he is a socialist! digging at his fathers grave for his fathers spirit! these are his words! The reverend wright, in that church for nearly 20 years and lies that he did not hear him speak the way he does? but dedicated one of his books to him? if you believe this I have a bridge to sell you pal! right away the racist card comes in! your a joke.

        1. Maembe profile image61
          Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I can show 1000% proof.  I imagine most liberals and conservatives can too.

          1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
            BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So, we're waiting....

            1. Maembe profile image61
              Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Read the rest of the thread.

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          Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          ...and you are a stained, very bad and torn up soul. Your bigotry is not a veiled as you think. You bring shame to my country.

          1. DannyMaio profile image57
            DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            please with your BS. everything with you is racist! You do not even know me and you talk sh!t. your the stained one who uses race in many of your posts, right away you have to blame race! yeah that is not stained! of course it can not be because his policies and belief, or that he is of a socialist... NO it must be race! please you do not have a clue. Your the one who brings shame! you like your president bowing to Muslim religious leaders and apologizing for America and you have no shame for this? yeah your bright! your the one with the stained very bad torn up soul

      3. readytoescape profile image60
        readytoescapeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        None of the items, documents or so-called “witnesses” manufactured to date would be acceptable via the standard of the Real Id Act of 2005 to qualify him to obtain a driver’s license.

        The very same standards and documents that every other American citizen must reveal and demonstrate by law to be able to prove their identity for a driver’s license or sanctioned ID card.

        1. I am DB Cooper profile image71
          I am DB Cooperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I guess that sucks for a huge number of Hawaiian natives whose only proof of birth on record is the short form, which has been approved as an official certificate of birth by the governor of the state.

          I've lost my birth certificate more times than I can count, and each time I need one reissued it looks different with random "official" seals that I'm sure are just created by the clerk at the hospital. What each state does with the millions of records for individuals born in that state was up to the state, although the federal government has started to regulate that more in the past decade as a counter-terrorism measure (or so they claim).

    2. bgamall profile image84
      bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      This won't work as long as there were articles in two newspapers announcing the Obama birth. That is independent verification of his birth. How about focusing on the bankster conspiracy gripping both parties instead of a futile endeavor.

      1. DannyMaio profile image57
        DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        his grandparents lived in hawaii, anybody can put a birth in the paper! it costs 10 USD why not be forthcoming? why spend 100's of thousands of dollars for a 10.00 piece of paper and get rid of this? I have read your posts bgamail, you my friend want entitlements! and if you focused your thoughts and concerns on those banksters which is really the FED reserve, you would see that is where the problem lies! this is not a right or left thing it is the group who run the Fed Reserve and other central banks around the world...the Rothchilds, rockafella's, etc...they are playing everyone. if you look deep you will see how the fractional reserve system is causing most problems! and that group is the top 1%

        1. Moonchild60 profile image83
          Moonchild60posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Wow Danny now your just reaching...

          1. DannyMaio profile image57
            DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            not really do some research!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLRfTYu4KMM

            1. Moonchild60 profile image83
              Moonchild60posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              You want me to research on YouTube?  Are they suddenly the most reliable source?  My God, what is this country coming to intellectually?

              1. DannyMaio profile image57
                DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                again if you actually watched it you would see the guy is obamas age born in hawaii and was adopted! he shows his actual BIRTH CERTIFICATE! not certificate of live birth and takes you through the steps of what was done in his case! moonchild sometimes in life you have to open up your brain and then use your commonsense to make a logical decision! try it you might surprise yourself! I have read things from right and left wing blogs and some had some good points and most were half truths after doing my research. at least this guy shows what a birth certificate looks like from hawaii in that time period! why spend millions of dollars if you can produce a 10.00 document???? you must ask yourself that question or your brain dead!

                1. Maembe profile image61
                  Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  He produced the $10 document.  It wasn't enough for the radical conspiracy theorists, but nothing ever is.

                  1. DannyMaio profile image57
                    DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    again a long form which is needed to get a drivers license or passport! not a certificate of live birth! all this would not exist if he has! why has he spent over 1 million dollars do not show? this is proof go to the actual courts and see he has attorneys fighting instead of just simply showing! it would all be over if he did. show me his long form and I will admit your right until then you have NOTHING!!!!

            2. Moonchild60 profile image83
              Moonchild60posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Ok to be fair, I checked your video (which incidently is not new).  My husband told me (he is a genius/intellectual) before Obama was in office and slightly before Bush was out, what was happening.  He showed me a video of a gentleman he explained was brilliant in finance.  I believe at this time Bush had already looked into the bailout because the greatest financial minds had told Bush the same thing they would tell Obama; if you do not bail these banks out, the economy will crash and this crash will make the 29' crash look like nothing much. Why wouldn't either of these men believe them?   

              As far as these people running this country.  I Knew that too.  That is why I have said before and I will say it again, the powerful and wealthiest run this country and if you think it matters one iota who is President, you are just ignorant.  Then again, in this instance, perhaps ignorance is bliss.  As seeing it coming will change nothing.  As the only thing that can change this situation would be a major revolution on the part of the people and I honestly don't see that coming.

              1. DannyMaio profile image57
                DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I'm in fiance also, so I do know who runs the show and like I stated it is the people who own the fed. that is the top 1% they can cause any mayhem they want because they control the money! and our system is a scam, have you ever read Money Money Mechanics? that is how our money system works on the fractional reserve system. our money is not backed by anything! if it was they could not just print money on the good faith of the government. thus the reason our dollar is so low. as for as me thinking that the president truly runs things of course he does not. but for our country to just let things go without sticking to the constitution is not good! this country became the super power it is because of our constitution. I was hoping Obama actually did well and finally make a difference but the more I read his books and look at his actions he is making us look stupid and weak!  I bashed bush and was against the Iraq invasion! he caused all this mess in my eyes. bottom line is our system is so messed up and I feel if I do not at least try to open up peoples eyes and have everyone make a logical decision then I'm part of the problem! I make my own decisions on my own research and not swayed by the media who is run by the people who have most the wealth. like I stated I read both sides and make my own assumption.

    3. Ralph Deeds profile image70
      Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Crapola!

  2. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    McCain was born in Panama....problem? No.
    It is racism, I agree. 100%.

    Besides, you should have seen the add that Muffy made here against Deval patrick.

    *quite voice, woman walking along, black man behind her--danger,danger!!*.....
    ....fade to Patrick giving a speech.

    Oh, it was foul!
    The Repubs never learn.

    12% are Baggers, 12% are mom and pop white picket fence....
    Give it a rest already.

    1. DannyMaio profile image57
      DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      again more race when you have nothing real to say! McCain was born to 2 US citizens and he was born on a military base, not in Indonesia and put down he was an Indonesian citizen or he would not be able to attend school, did McCain have more than one name? did McCain have Pics of him in Muslim garb? did McCain fight in a war for this country? was he a prisoner of war? why cant we see how Obama paid for school? how come everything is so secret? if there is nothing to hide why not just show it? how come we can not see his college writings? This is the highest job of the country anyone who thinks we should just let stuff slide is a complete fool. the BIRTH CERTIFICATE not certificate of live birth cost 10USD why hide??? I do not care if he was democrat, Republican, independent, black, white, yellow, green or purple they should have to show everything!

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So who is it let him slip through all these cracks to become president?

  3. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    Everything Reverand Wright said is true.

    The fairy-tale image of America is the lie.

    1. DannyMaio profile image57
      DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      OK, that is your opinion and you have a right to that in this great country, it is OK that you side with a anti-American, who loves to blame America and the white man for everything. and if you believe he is telling the truth and your boy Obama or Barry whatever his real name is went to that church for 20 years then you must admit that he knew what the reverend was all about and he lied and said he did not hear him speak that way in the 20 years he was part of that black liberation theology! he even dedicated one of his books to him! probably did not think he would be running for president. I do not know about you but I do not want someone who believes like reverend wright to be the president of the United States! his actions show he believes that too, I want to hear you deny this. his actions and his words in his own books prove and show this.

      1. bgamall profile image84
        bgamallposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If you aren't a big success, your arguments protecting ill gotten gains ring hollow. And if you are a big success, and it was through ill gotten ponzi housing gains then your argument would still ring hollow.

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          what are you talking about????? what does this have to do with what we are discussing? big success? housing gains??? are you delusional?

      2. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Show what?
        That black people have been treated evilly?
        They have.
        That AIDS is manufactured? I believe it is.
        That the gvt brought crack and guns into the ghetto's to MAKE MONEY for a black-ops war?...Ollie North and the CIA, to be exact?
        San Jose Mercury News did an expose on it..and the reporter was murdered.
        Everything he said was well known in the alternet spheres. Had been for a long time.
        And, I wish Obama had stuck by Wright, not dis-associated!
        But I know why he had to.
        Because I know one thing for sure....this country is not ready to face its demons.
        Not yet.
        maybe as things escalate in the world in general, we will be more open to it.
        The days of My Country right or wrong are over. And, that is another good outcome of Obama's presidency, IMO.
        At least people on the right are now willing to look at it in a more open way.
        Now that Obama is president,they are willing to see that the gvt can be scoundrels!!!

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Sorry I do not believe that, show proof instead of conspiracy theories. yes Blacks had bad things done to them years ago but things changed, many things happened to Italians, Irish, spanish. Yes it was not right but those days are over and everyone should get over it, its over move on! people that dwell in the past never get any where. glad you know and admit Obama is a liar. now do not deny that you said it! your words "And, I wish Obama had stuck by Wright, not dis-associated!
          But I know why he had to." and what is sad is that you do not have a problem with someone who lies and you justify it! that is what is sad!

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            He doesn't lie---what are you talking about???

            You mean like "We do not torture"? THAT lie?

            Wrong president.

            What has Obama lied about?

            1. DannyMaio profile image57
              DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              you admitted that he stuck with wright and wish he didnt dis-associate with him. he stated he didnt hear all the anti-american hate from wright even though he was in the church for 20 years and dedicated a book to him. maybe your stupid or just playing along but i dont believe him

              1. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                It's not anti-American hate to see your evil wrong-doings. That is clear-thinking and very Christ-Like.
                What's hate is calling your president anti-American, imo.

                And I will remind al you righty's that he just insinuated I am stupid...something that would be called an attack if it was thrown at one of you.
                Let me geuss... you are also a right-wing Christian?....you can always tell.

                1. DannyMaio profile image57
                  DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Sorry wrong this time, if you actually read my posts you would know that im a democrat! I loved Clinton and voted for Hillary in the primary. This is a great country and do not like and I did give Mr. Obama a chance and wanted him to do well! sorry I'm not a puppet and speak the truth! I was against bush and going to Iraq and blame him for the stupid americans who voted for him after he lied about reverend wright! if he was honest then I would not have had a problem with him but he is an out right liar!!! you even admitted it, I know you didnt say it but if you look at what you wrote you said you wish he did not dis-associate himself with him! anybody that goes to a church for 20 years and dedicates a book to him knew what he was about! your the sorry liberal who needs to accuse people of being a right wing christian! and by your writing I'm certain you said horrible things about bush which was well deserved but you do not have the decency to admit it!

                  1. lovemychris profile image80
                    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Would you call Bush anti-American?

          2. Moonchild60 profile image83
            Moonchild60posted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Oh like you have a problem with all the Conservative Reps who lie and lie and lie and lie..... I don't see any proof of that.  Come on, everyone knows Obama could do anything, anything at all, it can be the greatest thing any President has ever done and Republicans will find an issue with it. The man can't walk onto Air Force one without Reps criticizing him.  At this point, it is just getting stupid.

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Perhaps if he did something that we believe is in the best interest of the nation, it would be a different story. 

              And I don't think Obama screws up intentionally.  I think he is just so discombobulated by what it takes to be President....he's out of his depth.  He assumed that he would be elected and everyone would now love us....surprise!  This is actually a job and a very hard one, and he is twisting in the wind seven ways to Sunday to try and appease everybody.  It's not working.

              I had doubts about Obama early on, but seeing how well he ran his campaign, I thought, well, if he runs his administration that effectively, maybe we'll be alright.  Unfortunately, his first year in office made it crystal clear that we were in for a long first (and hopefully single) term.

            2. DannyMaio profile image57
              DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              yes there are many of those on both sides! he is a socialist and if you read his books you couldn t deny this.

  4. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    And just what is wrong with being a Muslim anyway?
    Are you saying the Muslim citizens of America are less than you?

    1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
      BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Oh, I don't know, the idea of convert-them-or-kill-them leaps to mind....

      Less than me?  no, but then again, I have no use for them....

      1. Daniel Carter profile image89
        Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        But just imagine all the uses they would have for you...

        1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          You sound almost hopeful.....

          1. Daniel Carter profile image89
            Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Truly, I am not. It was a slight little jab made in jest.

            I see the religious/political world as I see it: corrupt in every way. Just making a little humor here and there...

    2. DannyMaio profile image57
      DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      not one thing is wrong with being Muslim! do not try and spin this as you people always try. There are many questions that were never answered! even if he was Muslim and born here legally I believe he has a total right to run for president, but be HONEST! he is not. again this is the highest job in the country everything should be straight forward.

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        He said he is a Christian.....you don't believe him!

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          NO! if you believe reverend wright and Obama went for 20 years and dedicated a book to him and you read his books and clearly see he believes in anti-colonialism/socialism and who his friends are...you know what they say! apples do not fall far from the trees! again it is alright to believe these things but this is the highest office in the country and we the people should know about everything. He is the biggest liar! I'm a registered democrat. so this is not a republican thing.

          1. OLYHOOCH profile image62
            OLYHOOCHposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You just cant take off one coat and put on another one, OVERNIGHT.

            If you don't get some kind of believe in 20 years, then why go there.

            OLY

            1. DannyMaio profile image57
              DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              agreed OLY.

        2. BillyDRitchie profile image61
          BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Perhaps if anything Obama said or did was remotely indicative of Christianity then I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on the matter.....

          1. lovemychris profile image80
            lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You mean like speaking on behalf of the poor and disenfranchised? The people in prison?
            The least among us?

            Riiiight, that was another Jesus Christ.

            Oh yeah...he put a bust of MLK in the white house too...
            Much more my kind of Christian than Billy Graham!

            1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
              BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Um, Jesus never talked about government being the answer to all of our problems......

              And last time I checked, MLK was not Christ.......

              1. lovemychris profile image80
                lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Nor was GW Bush! But you would think so.

                And, who was it that Jesus was angry with?
                The money-changers in the Temple.
                The Pharisee's, who preached kindness and tolerance but showed none.


                Do the math.

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Um, I have never implicated that George W. Bush was Christ, nor have any other conservatives.

                  Nice try though, but then you do have a penchant for making stuff up.....

                  1. lovemychris profile image80
                    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    No, but you did Martin Luther King

                    "And last time I checked, MLK was not Christ"

              2. DTR0005 profile image83
                DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Neither did Jesus preach that the "free market" was the answer to every human ill...

                1. BillyDRitchie profile image61
                  BillyDRitchieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  You'll have to forgive Jesus for not being overly concerned with how nations conduct their commerce....He was too busy with that whole "eternal life" thing....

                  1. DTR0005 profile image83
                    DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Oh I have never stated Jesus was one party or the other - that has, admittedly, been something the Right for the last 25 plus years has been doing.. The Moral Majority, etc. etc. . If I were pressed, I would guess He would not be an American capitalist... just based on His preachings.

                    On a side note, I have been to a lot of "different" congregations- liberal and ultra conservative. The Pentascostals do tend to mix a lot of politics into the sermons; I haven't seen that with the more middle-of-the-road chruches.

  5. Maembe profile image61
    Maembeposted 6 years ago

    So where did Obama's mom go to to give birth?  Why did she go somewhere knowing that she was going to have her baby and then immediately come back?

    Can someone refresh me on the details of this conspiracy theory as you see it so I can easily debunk it?

    1. DannyMaio profile image57
      DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      like i said a million times why not show the 10.00 usd birth CERTIFICATE, not certificate of live birth. you know the one that has the doctors name the hospital etc... very simple! why spend so much money, attorneys to fight in court and not just show and shut everyone up? yeah you are going to easily debunk it??? LMAO so your another fool who will spend countless money not to show a simple REAL birth certificate. Now maybe he was born here but his mother did something or he is hiding something he was a student in Indonesia and that paper shows he is of Muslim faith an a Indonesian citizen or he would not have been able to go to school. also who paid for his college? why cant we see his papers from college? if these do not make sense to you then your just a puppet! again this is the highest office in the country and everyone should know who they are!

      1. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So who let this imposter slip through and be sworn in as president?

      2. Maembe profile image61
        Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        A certificate of live birth is a birth certificate.  That is what you get in Hawaii when you request a birth certificate.  It provides proof of citizenship.   This is where you go to get it:  http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/pdf/birth.pdf

        I think he had loans and scholarships.  Virtually nobody has to pay anything to go to Harvard during their Freshman year anyways.
        I'm not sure what college papers you're talking about but why would you get to see them?
        Is there a conspiracy theory surrounded Obama's college career as well?

        So is your theory that his mom ran away to Indonesia to give birth and immediately came back?  How and why would she have done that? 
        Why would you trust a long form birth certificate provided by the state of Hawaii if you think that they have been covering up the "facts" surrounding Obama's birth for 50 years?

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          a certificate of birth is not a birth certificate. a real birth certificate has the doctors name and hospital etc... also if you truly want  to bring up that certificate of live birth it looks like a fake as back in the 60"s nobody in the united states used african it would have said negro. this is fact.
          http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=254401

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

          1. Maembe profile image61
            Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            In Hawaii certificate of live birth is a birth certificate.  There just isn't any way around it.
            Not a fact.  You get to choose what to put on it.  His father chose African.  Probably because he was African.

            It is real.  It has been held, touched, pictured, etc. by independent source and the state of Hawaii.  It has the raised seal and a stamp signature.


            Again, if you don't trust the state of Hawaii, why would you trust a "long form" provided by them?  Nothing can disprove a conspiracy theory in the mind of a conspiracy theorist because anytime someone shows them that they are wrong they simply become part of the conspiracy.

            1. DannyMaio profile image57
              DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              more BS! that is not true and the father doesnt have a choice to say african! that was the terminology back then! lol please. did you watch those videos? one was from someone who was born in Hawaii around the same time and he shows clearly what is wrong! and please show me who touched and verified this? NO ONE!!!!  you just make stuff up as you go to fit your thinking? the other shows a signed affidavid that any hospital in hawaii has any paperwork for obama jr.! I do not believe in conspiracy theories! I believe in facts! again if a real birth certificate exists it should not be hard to show or get. did hawaii just happen to lose his??? LMAO please. who was the doctor? which hospital? all records are kept. who is this independent source?? soro's? that video i pasted shows red flags and the other is very clear! debunk that!

              1. Maembe profile image61
                Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I didn't watch the video and your link is from World Nut Daily so I didn't bother reading it.  This is a pretty good article that has picture of a FactCheck.org writer with the birth certificate:  http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008 … e_usa.html
                It also contains facts that debunk all of your ridiculous claims.

                1. DannyMaio profile image57
                  DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIsQJNTvlUE

                  again and this shows it is FAKE!! this is a real person who shows clearly! also why does obama have a few social security numbers? one from Connecticut? to many issues, I think he may have used different names and socials to take advantage of the system and did not think he would be running for president. maybe college loan issues? do not know he is too secret and that is shady!

                2. DannyMaio profile image57
                  DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures." that is from factcheck and now look at this with a signed affidavit.

                  Exclusive BORN IN THE USA?
                  Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate
                  Signs affidavit declaring long-form, hospital-generated document absent
                  Posted: January 24, 2011
                  8:48 pm Eastern

                  By Jerome R. Corsi

                  Former Hawaii elections clerk Tim Adams has now signed an affidavit swearing he was told by his supervisors in Hawaii that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Barack Obama Jr. in Hawaii and that neither Queens Medical Center nor Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu had any record of Obama having been born in their medical facilities.


                  Notary seal on Timothy Adams' affidavit

                  Adams was employed at the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division from May 2008 through September 2008.

                  His position was senior elections clerk, overseeing a group of 50 to 60 employees responsible for verifying the identity of voters at the Absentee Ballot Office. It was in this capacity that Adams became aware of the search for Obama's birth-certificate records.

                  "During the course of my employment," Adams swears in the affidavit (viewable in full as part 1 and part 2), "I became aware that many requests were being made to the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division, the Hawaii Office of Elections, and the Hawaii Department of Health from around the country to obtain a copy of then-Senator Barack Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate."

                  As he inquired about the birth certificate, he says, his supervisors told him that the records were not on file at the Hawaii Department of Health.

                  "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division told me on multiple occasions that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama in the Hawaii Department of Health," Adams' affidavit reads, "and there was no record that any such document had ever been on file in the Hawaii Department of Health or any other branch or department of the Hawaii government."


                  Tim Adams, former senior elections clerk for Honolulu

                  In a recorded telephone interview, Adams said that it was common knowledge among election officials where he worked that no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate could be found at the Hawaii Department of Health.

                  "My supervisor came and told me, 'Of course, there's no birth certificate. What? You stupid,'" Adams said. "She usually spoke well, but in saying this she reverted to a Hawaiian dialect. I really didn't know how to respond to that. She said it and just walked off. She was quite a powerful lady."

                  Moreover, Adams was told that neither Queens Memorial Hospital nor Kapi'olani Medical Center had any records of Obama's birth at their medical facilities: "Senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division further told me on multiple occasions that Hawaii State government officials had made inquires about Sen. Obama's birth records to officials at Queens Medical Center and Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu and that neither hospital had any record of Senator Obama having been born there, even though Governor Abercrombie is now asserting and various Hawaii government officials continue to assert Barack Obama Jr. was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center on Aug. 4, 1961."

                  "We called the two hospitals in Honolulu: Queens and Kapi'olani," Adams stressed. "Neither of them have any records that Barack Obama was born there."

                  (Story continues below)

                          
                      

                  In 2009, WND documented that Obama and his supporters had first claimed he was born at Queens Medical Center in Honolulu, before the story changed to Kapi'olani Medical Center in Honolulu.

                  After WND's report on the two conflicting hospitals, online news sites including the United Press International and Snopes.com scrubbed their websites to eliminate any reference to Queens Medical Center, substituting instead that Obama was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center without explaining the discrepancy or the correction.


                  Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie

                  In 2010, then-candidate for governor Neil Abercrombie was involved in an Obama birth controversy when he read a letter at a Kapi'olani Medical Center centennial dinner in Honolulu that supposedly was authored by President Obama, claiming Kapi'olani as his birth hospital.

                  As WND reported, the letter read by Abercrombie and initially displayed on the Kapi'olani website turned out to be a computer-created likeness of a letter using HTML code, the building blocks of Internet websites, not an actual paper letter.

                  The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.

                  Moreover, Adams claims, the Hawaii government was engaged in a cover-up designed to tell the American public through the Obama-supporting mainstream media that Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate for Obama could be found on record in the Hawaii Department of Health.

                  In the affidavit Adams swears, "During the course of my employment, I came to understand that for political reasons, various officials in the government of Hawaii, including then-Governor Linda Lingle and various officials of the Hawaii Department of Health, including Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of the Hawaii Department of Health, were making representations that Senator Obama was born in Hawaii, even though no government official in Hawaii could find a long-form birth certificate for Senator Obama that had been issued by a Hawaii hospital at the time of his birth."

                  Adams further swears his supervisors told him to quit asking about Obama's birth records.

                  "During the course of my employment," Adams states in the affidavit, "I was told by senior officers in the City and County of Honolulu Elections Division to stop inquiring about Senator Obama's Hawaii birth records, even though it was common knowledge among my fellow employees that no Hawaii long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate existed for Senator Obama."

                  "I can go get my long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate," Adams told WND. "And so I don't understand, this whole controversy should have been settled three or four years ago in about five minutes."

                  Nor does Adams feel the short-form Certification of Live Birth is authoritative documentation proving that Obama was born in Hawaii.

                  "My basic assumption is that he wasn't born there," Adams said. "Certifications of Live Birth were given to people who were born at home, or to people who were born overseas and whose parents brought them back to the islands. If his parents were U.S. citizens, or if one parent was a U.S. citizen, as was the case with Obama, the family would apply for a Hawaiian birth certificate when the parents came back from overseas. That's normally how you would have gotten on [a Certification of Live Birth] in the 1960s."

                  WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person request at the Hawaii Department of Health for a registration of a Hawaii birth, even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

                  In the past few days, Abercrombie has represented that there is a registration of Obama's birth in the state archives.

                  But the state registration of birth in 1961 theoretically could prove only that the grandparents had registered Obama's birth, even if Obama was not born in Hawaii.

                  Similarly, the newspaper announcements of baby Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since the newspaper announcements could have been triggered by the grandparents appearing in-person to register baby Obama as a Hawaiian birth, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

                  WND has documented that the address reported in the birth announcements published in the Hawaii newspapers at the time, 6085 Kalanianaole Highway, was the address where the grandparents lived.

                  WND has also reported that Barack Obama Sr. maintained his own separate apartment in Honolulu at an 11th Avenue address, even after he was supposedly married to Ann Dunham, Barack Obama's mother, and that Ann Dunham left Hawaii within three weeks of the baby's birth to attend the University of Washington in Seattle.

                  Dunham did not return to Hawaii until after Barack Obama Sr. left Hawaii in June 1962 to attend graduate school at Harvard University in Cambridge, Mass.

                  It's possible the yet-undisclosed birth record in the state archives that Abercrombie has discovered may have come from the grandparents registering baby Obama's birth, an event that would have triggered both the newspaper birth announcements and availability of a Certification of Live Birth, even if no long-form record exists.

                  WND has confirmed with Glen Takahashi, elections administrator for the city and county of Honolulu, that Adams was indeed working in their elections offices during the last presidential election.

                  "We hire temporary workers, because we're seasonal," Takahashi told WND.

                  Adams told WND he supported Hillary Clinton during the 2008 presidential election campaign.

                  He described himself as a libertarian who wants less government spending, fewer laws that restrict personal freedoms, more adherences to the Constitution and an end to foreign wars.

                  "I'm interested in individual liberty and upholding the Constitution," he said. "I want to get American troops out from foreign countries, and I want to see the federal budget balanced."

                  He said he might be inclined to support former-Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee or former-Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney in 2012 to run against President Obama, but he has not yet made up his mind.

                  "It depends on how fiscally conservative Huckabee and Romney turn out to be on economics," he said. "But from what I know right now, they would probably be better than Obama."

                  Read more: Hawaii official now swears: No Obama birth certificate http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=254401#ixzz1HvnFvbQD

                  1. Ralph Deeds profile image70
                    Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    The link didn't contain the affidavit. But it appears to be pure, worthless hearsay.

                  2. Maembe profile image61
                    Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    It's been debunked by the Honolulu city clerk, Takahishi, or whatever his name is.  They don't have access to those records. 

                    "To be honest, I fielded no questions about that," Takahashi said. "Why would anyone ask us? We don't have those records."
                    -Washington Post

                    The video is just dumb.   They even said they rotated the image in the article. 

                    Like I said, if you show a conspiracy theorist proof, you just become part of the conspiracy theory, just like the Health Department of Hawaii, FactCheck.org, the judges who've rule on this, etc.  Who will become part of the conspiracy theory next?

                  3. lovemychris profile image80
                    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, everything you just put up is debunked here:

                    http://factcheck.org/elections-2008/bor … e_usa.html

                    Oh, and maybe you ought to check out Jerome Corsi too....just sayin.

      3. John Holden profile image59
        John Holdenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        And yet in the light of a statement like that you still expect us to take any thing you say seriously!

      4. DTR0005 profile image83
        DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        One important thing that all the conspiracy buffs fail to mention.
        And this is a fact - Obama's mother was never issued a passport by the US State Department prior to his birth. So what does this mean????

        It means that if she gave birth to him anywhere other than on US soil as she was a US citizen, then she got to this "magic country" without a passport or with a faked passport. Ok, how much of a spy novel do the nut fringe want to make of this?

        So is summary according to the birther theory, the following occured:
        An 18 year old college student stowed away on an airplane or on a boat because Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean WITHOUT A PASSPORT OR VISA FROM A FOREIGN COUNTRY (this would have made re-entry into the country damn near impossible)  and travelled being 9 months pregnant (likely as a stow-away AT 9 MONTHS PREGNANT)  to some third-world nation to give birth to her son because??????? At the same time, his grandparents - two good white, God-fearing people posted a false birth announcement in two newspapers in Hawaii because????????? His place of birth would have no bearing on his citizenship because his MOTHER WAS ALREADY AN AMERICAN; the only elected office that requires birth on US soil is the presidency. So are we to assume that his grandparents had aspirations at his birth that he would someday be president and as such would need "falsified" evidence of his birth by way of newspaper announcements?

        In law, there is something called the "giggle test." And if something doesn't pass the "giggle test," then it's generally looked at as being frivolous, ridiculous, etc. etc.  Does this pass the giggle test once you try to "reconstruct" the ridiculous need-be facts in order to make the conspiracy plausible? No...

        I am not a particular fan of Obama, but I am a big fan of rational thought. And this "birther" conspiracy crap isn't rational...

    2. OLYHOOCH profile image62
      OLYHOOCHposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Are you telling us that you can, Debunk, the 20 years with that wright group, be appointed The Leader of The United States Of America, and now he is a, Christian, overnight?

      This, I would like to hear.

      I believe it's your move, or is that, Check Mate.

      OLY

      1. Maembe profile image61
        Maembeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I have no idea what you just said.

      2. lovemychris profile image80
        lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Wright is a Christian. He preaches the Bible.
        It is not your version of Christianity, so you call him a non Christian.


        YOUR version does not suit me, but can I call you a liar about your faith?

        up the ladder.
        col. custard in the library with a pistol.

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          an anti-american christian preacher! I'm not religious sorry again! can not tell you the last time i went to church. I just do the right thing as a human not guided by any religion. you seem to want to blast religion and use that as an excuse when someone disagrees with you. very sad for you!

      3. Ralph Deeds profile image70
        Ralph Deedsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Duh? From what I've read Wright IS a Christian.

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          ralph with all do respect all your post are jibberish! when i see your name i skip right over it. sorry. why not put facts or solutions in your 2 liners?

          1. AnnCee profile image70
            AnnCeeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            LOL.   Some of these threads read as if everyone were skipping over everyone's posts.

  6. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    So, WHO let an unqualified, non citizen be sworn in as president??

  7. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "See the ad designed to go over the heads of media establishment". Is not all this crap an FBI disinformation campaign. That's a rhetorical question.

  8. findandshop profile image59
    findandshopposted 6 years ago

    Two years ago, Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., shocked the world when he stated,“If you started the day Jesus Christ was born
    and spent $1 million every day since then,
    you still wouldn’t have spent $1 trillion.”
    This statement came on the heels of President Barack Obama releasing his $819 billion “rescue plan.” A plan that seems to have rescued only Big Banks, Wall Street, and certain political insiders.
    A plan that in hindsight was cheap.
    YES, CHEAP.
    Since then, Obama and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke have gone on a spending spree like two thieves with a stolen credit card.
    Now TRILLIONS have been squandered on Obamacare, “quantitative easing,” and more bailouts.
    Because of these controversial actions, our national debt has dangerously soared past $14 trillion.

    1. DTR0005 profile image83
      DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      At $10-12 billion per month to be in Iraq and Afghanistan for what, going on a decade, that ate up a trillion dollars real quick. And the very best was this - we did it by deficit spending - yeah that's right - no tax increases and two wars - THAT'S A FIRST in American history -So does that not "count" cause it was under W? just wondering. And those figures are accurate by the way.... Did Sen. Mitch mention anything about that????

  9. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    "Because of these controversial actions, our national debt has dangerously soared past $14 trillion." And all the while they got everybody squabbing over whether he is a citizen. If that wasn't oh so convenient for them, seens to me he could just release his birth certain.

  10. lovemychris profile image80
    lovemychrisposted 6 years ago

    And btw--everyone knows of my disdain for Busco..Cheney in particular.
    It got me labeled a hater by a RWC here.

    Funny, they never call themselves haters when they say our president is anti-American.

    1. OLYHOOCH profile image62
      OLYHOOCHposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      YOU MIGHT LIKE TO READ THE LATEST ON, OBAMA, BC, LOL

      OLY

  11. AnnCee profile image70
    AnnCeeposted 6 years ago

    I posted information about the procedure used when a child is adopted to change the child's name on a new birth certificate and seal the original birth certificate.   Was Obama legally adopted by Soetero?   Obama has never indicated otherwise.  If he was legally adopted his name was changed.

    The site I posted the information from is having some problems today.  Better go look before it's crashed. 

    I also looked up Hawaiian law on name changes and birth certificates.  If Obama was adopted his name is Soetero.

    1. Jeff Berndt profile image88
      Jeff Berndtposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah the law you looks up says that when adopted, kids' names get changed. It says nothing about changes to anybody's birth certificate.

      Also, if your false information were true, and adopted kids' birth certificates were changed and the original suppressed/sealed, where did this name "Soetero" come from? Someone got access to sealed records somehow?

      Sheesh.

  12. mikelong profile image74
    mikelongposted 6 years ago

    There's nothing like idiot birthers to make "conservative" Americans look like buffoons...

  13. Evan G Rogers profile image78
    Evan G Rogersposted 6 years ago

    Anyone who cares THIS much about "where the president was born" has obviously failed to recognize the MUCH MUCH MUCH greater issue of the completely dead and buried Constitution.

    Psst - instead of worrying about where this guy was born, let's worry about how he declared war against the government of Libya without a declaration of war from Congress!!!

    WAKE UP OLYHOOCH!!! Congress is dead!!! Who cares where the prez was born: we have bigger fish to fry.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      They run the agenda now. Maybe they don't want you to pay attention to what they're doing in there...cause it's all bad.

      And they hate him with so much venom, they would do anything to bring him down.

  14. Jeff Berndt profile image88
    Jeff Berndtposted 6 years ago

    The wilfully ignorant will continue to assert that an untrue thing is true because the fact that Obama is a natural born US citizen is inconvenient to their goal of destabilizing his administration.

    The truly terrifying thing is that so many of these ignorant fools are likely voters.

    If you want to be upset with the Obama administration, there are plenty of reasons that actually exist in reality; there's no reason to make stuff up. It might make you look good to willfully ignorant morons, but I'm not sure I'd want to be the hero of the willfully ignorant moron community.

    1. lovemychris profile image80
      lovemychrisposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      51% of Republicans are Birthers.

    2. DannyMaio profile image57
      DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I will again say you must be the ignorant one to believe he is not hiding something that he would spend millions of dollars and not show a simple long form! I believe he might be born here but I do not have proof and think maybe he never changed his name back from Barry, or he used Barry or Obama and received foreign aid for school, either way a complete fool would agree if he spends millions to not show a simple 10.00 piece of paper he is hiding something. talk to the hand! I'm done with ignorant fools

      1. DTR0005 profile image83
        DTR0005posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        If the dude shows what you believe to be a "legitimate document," will you shut up? lmao

        1. DannyMaio profile image57
          DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          yes! and admit it by publishing a hub stating I was wrong! I'm a man of my word. personally I think he maybe born here I'm not 100% but I think he is shady and hiding something, nobody would go through all this and not hiding something. I will apologize 1000%

          1. profile image0
            Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Not me.
            No decent President would string citizens along like that.

            1. DannyMaio profile image57
              DannyMaioposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              this is all I want! which they are required to give to get passport DL
              minimum requirements of a Hawaii State Health Department Certificate of Birth.
              • Name of hospital
              • Name of child
              • Month, day, year and time of birth of child
              • Race and sex of child
              • Record number of Birth Certificate
              • Names, addresses and occupations of both parents
              • Ages and races of both parents
              • Places of birth of both parents
              • Kinds of business of both parents and when last worked
              • Signature of parent or other informant
              • Signature and date of attending doctor
              • Signature and date accepted by local Registrar
              • Date Accepted by Registrar General
              • Government Seal

              1. profile image0
                Texasbetaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                You don't get what you want, because you don't matter. Your worth is measured like an ant. Nobody gives a damn what you want. See how that works? He is President. Go cry in the corner.

  15. DannyMaio profile image57
    DannyMaioposted 6 years ago

    minimum requirements of a Hawaii State Health Department Certificate of Birth.
    • Name of hospital
    • Name of child
    • Month, day, year and time of birth of child
    • Race and sex of child
    • Record number of Birth Certificate
    • Names, addresses and occupations of both parents
    • Ages and races of both parents
    • Places of birth of both parents
    • Kinds of business of both parents and when last worked
    • Signature of parent or other informant
    • Signature and date of attending doctor
    • Signature and date accepted by local Registrar
    • Date Accepted by Registrar General
    • Government Seal

  16. findandshop profile image59
    findandshopposted 6 years ago

    As long as the Banks and Wall Street are allowed to be the driving force of this country it really doesn't matter if Oboma was born on Mars.
    Oil speculators are killing us. Last year when they all thought the government was going to investigate they all got out of it. Gas prices dropped. Oboma did nothing and their back at it.
    Now Wall Street has found an other way to milk the American Tax Payer. They have jumped on the student loan band wagon. Thousands of "bad" student loans are being written that will never be paid back but wall street gets their money.
    "Student loan dept has surpassed credit card dept." the Wall Street Journal.
    The US public school system is failing our kids! They are becoming Drop Out Factory's. And on and on.
    We, the people, can not fix these problems when we keep voting in the career politicians interested in their pocket book, $1000 suits, and petty bickering amongst themselves.
    Oh well,enough of my rambling. I didn't vote for Oboma, did you?

    1. OLYHOOCH profile image62
      OLYHOOCHposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Well, since I started this mess and we have not got to the bottom of this Issue, YET,

      If and when the real BC is out and accepted by all, then,

      I will follow suit with, DannyMaio,

      and post a full RETRACTION and apology and,

      at that time, I will start referring to Obama as, Mr. President.

      Untill then, to me, he is still, Mr. Obama.

      OLY

 
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