Went to a fascinating panel recently. Actually there were two - one full of conservatives and another full of liberals talking about what they could learn from the other side. It was a very civil, interesting discussion.
I, for one, am open to learning. I do not advocate partisan politics. Compromise is necessary.
Unless you really hear and understand where your "opponent" is coming from, you can't possibly find middle ground.
The problem seems to be that there are a lot of centrists -- people who lean slightly or moderately left or right -- who are rational and reasonable.
It's the extremists on BOTH SIDES whose ideology and passion completely overshadow reason.
I hope you will share what you heard at this panel.
Because honestly, it's great to know that some folks are willing to open their minds.
I do not appreciate reading (repeatedly) that by virtue of my political affiliation (assumed to be "liberal" because if you're not one of "them" you must be a "libtard") I am too stupid to understand. That posture does not exactly encourage me to listen.
"I do not advocate partisan politics."
Everything I've ever seen you post is pro-obama or anti-republican.
That's an interesting comment considering you will find neither of the following with any regularity on the hubpages forums: Liberals posting forum topics calling the "Right" fascists or the "Right" posting a forum topic that doesn't contain the terms "anti-American" or socialist.
Look back at the posts over the last six months or so.
That seems a bit derivative, Evan.
I do post a lot in response to the outrageous anti-President posts made by Lady_Love and a few others.
Can't let that kind of foolishness stand.
I am not anti-Republican.
Some of my best friends are Republican!
Some of our best presidents have been Republican!
I am anti specific representatives of the GOP.
But even then, I try to acknowledge when they do good things. Just today I posted something about Boehner that was sympathetic to his plight (at least OP was)....The fact that he wears his emotions on his sleeve is personal. Has nothing to do with his party affiliation!
The Tea Party is another matter entirely...
Where is Lady Love by the way? I would have figured she would have been all over this budget fight. Vacation? banned? lmao
You wrote, "I am not anti-Republican.
Some of my best friends are Republican!"
Yeah. Like me. Well, not really like me. I am Conservative. But I am almost Republican. And you know that deep down, you like me!
Plenty. Like, how to take control of a debate and make people think false things are true by making up and repeatedly using emotionally-laden words like "death panels."
Or perhaps, how to get something done when you have a majority in both houses of Congress and control of the White House as well? The Dems could really use some pointers there.
Nothing. Neither can learn from the other. Politics, social and environmental issues are deeply engrained into the emotions of people. There is a lot of pride and ego in the public. I'm a conservative Republican but i'm sober enough to know that our best interests are not being met by both sides.
I appreciated your reply, goldenpath!
I agree with you. How unfortunate for us that running the US has become a game that has nothing to do with actually making our systems work.
I think democrats can learn how to stick together from the republicans. I'm not sure if its because republicans are a bit more exclusive and the democrats are a bit more inclusive but I find democrats squabbling amongst each other and disagreeing to the point of confusing an issue.
They can learn a great deal from each other....just not here.
Lady_Love is no more.
No more Hub Pages account.
She got outed as a paid poster. Not sure if she left voluntarily or if Admin finally shut her down.
Try searching for Lady_Love under "Hubbers."
Lots of variations. But not her.
Unless I am getting the punctuation of her user name wrong...
If I am wrong, I apologize!
Her profile is still on here when you look in the "most active hubbers" in the political forums.
Yes, I traced her profile back through a forum post for which she is the OP.
Must be either
a) On vacation
b) Working at her medical sales job
d) Sitting out the budget impasse, waiting for Obama to do something rant-worthy
Rant-worthy lolll As long as he is above ground, she will have a raison d'etre.
I sure wish someone would pay us to post rebuttals to all her rants.
Can you say, "Cha-Ching!"???
Your nemesis? Really? That's funny.
She is Lady_Love158 - she's still there.. Good gravey - I thought my nemesis was no more... bout soiled myself.
wait wait wait - what proof do you have that she was a paid poster?
Here's her profile:
... ... ... so....
what proof do you have for such a claim?
Doncha hear? Everybody sez it, it gotta be true!
Relax Evan... it's an inside joke in the liberal camp. We all enjoy her - from a distance that is. In fact, she has single-handedly kept the use of the exclamation point popular.
It can be a joke all it wants - it's not necessarily true.
Making statements like this really destroy Mighty Mom's credibility.
AnnCee's reputation is mostly shot because s/he just makes wild claims and then ignores the responses; I don't think many people listen to OlyHooch; most people ignore Lady_Love158; but know listening to Mighty Mom might very well be a waste of time as well.
She quit at the same time as Glen Beck? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Not surprised in the least, MM! I've asked her repeatedly if she was paid to post her daily dose of junk, but she would never give a straight answer. I wonder how many accounts she had, and bet she'll return soon!
You should be surprised...
... she's still a part of HubPages...
.. mighty mom made that up, and everyone believed it.
She gave no proof, and apparently everyone is too lazy to search "lady_love158" in the HubPages search engine.
Well woop de doo, Evan! You're just jealous libertarians are too cheap to hire anyone to post for them!
You really need to have a talk with Mighty Mom about this....
I think we all love Lady Love too much to believe the error. And it was corrected quickly.
While I rarely agree with Lady Love, she does serve a very useful function. She articulates a world view held by millions of Americans, and she deserves respect for that.
Whenever she says something I agree with, it is time to really start thinking!
Everything - if they would quit screaming and attempt to understand it.
The left- passes along distortion, misinformation and does nothing to help people(only makes it look like they do)
The right- passes along distortion, misinformation and does nothing to help people(only makes it look like they do)
So, in the end, NONE of the can be trusted to do what is in the best interest of society, as a whole or even the individual. They are ALL too busy covering their own a$$e$.
There can be a lot learned, if both actually decided to be honest, but it appears that that isn't going to happen.
they can learn there is almost no difference, one as bad as the other
Political right and left in US are the same. They all want more. Maybe the only difference is on how they want to get it, by competition or cooperation.
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