I believe the effects of marijuana is not what the government is afriaid of. A study shows that by removing the crop from consumption, a considerable amount of GDP would be affected in the country creating an inbalance with no way to satify filling the gap. European countries have already shown what deregulation and legalization can do for the issue, proving the results to be less than alarming with low poverty, and especially low, crime rates in legalized areas. Could the U.S. have a 'RedZone' or similar? There are states that are easing up on the fines/punishment dealt to unlawful bearers and possessers, but this is far from the definition of allowing it to be possessed or consumed.
I think there will be a time when it does become legalized. But maybe its another decade or two away. I think it will surely happen when one of these younger generations get aged enough to be running the government show it will happen. Imagine the money that would pour into a states coffers. I think CA should legalized it just for that reason alone and to help lift someone the tax burden off it's small businesses and citizens.
Bottom line is, how many people died from smoking pot verses alcohol, obesity, and tobacco use? Legalizing and taxing pot would be no different from alcohol. This country went through the same BS during Prohibition.
Very true... It is amazing how we boast free choice, yet we won't let someone smoke a harmless plant (compared to alcohol, tobacco or prescription drugs). I can't believe some of the dire side effects prescription drugs have, yet they're legal!
If it were legalized, we would see a huge economic market arise out of "nowhere." Politicians just don't know how to effectively produce positive results these days...
Yep, and really gave the mob a boost. This time around we've made some monsters in Mexico, Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe.
For a country founded on the concept of freedom, we're not very smart. There's always some moron in power that thinks they can control human behavior across the spectrum of humanity that make up a population. Fails every time.
We're not very smart.
Even without the sales tax angle, the amount of money this would save - law enforcement, the court system, overcrowded jails and prisons - makes the argument a no-brainer.
Here in Georgia they can hardly pay state workers but they don't mind operating helicopters at thousands of dollar and hour to find pot fields.
Of course, this merely causes the money which would have been spent on locally grown safe cannabis to be spent on imported chemically treated Mexican supplies instead. More money leaving the country. Brilliant!
I agree with the TMMason... Crap.
Honestly, from an herbalist's perspective... If a plant can do something BETTER than its pharmacological counterpart with less side effects, it is ridiculous to ban its use for some obscure reasons that I've never fully understood. My husband actually has Glaucoma. I would like nothing better than to have him treated with the most effective medication. He however, is basically forced to drop synthetic marijuana into his eyes. It is quite painful and works at only about 80 percent of the effectiveness that the real stuff would.
I would have no problem with him smoking the real stuff, even if it is illegal, if it means that his vision would stop getting progressively worse (in 5 years he will quite likely be legally blind). He is a republican however, and wouldn't consider the option without a gun to his head.
Furthermore, I could walk into my woods and come back with at least 3 plants (right off the top of my head) that would produce the same basic effects of marijuana when mixed in a bloody tea. They are quite legal.
Why stop at marijuana, why not just legalise all drugs and be done with it.
Let's face it making them illegal hasn't worked in spite of the billions spent on trying, criminal gangs continue to make their fortune while the authorities merely continue to drain the public purse.
Logically if all drugs were legally available from proper clinical facilities the consumption could be better controlled and help to stop more readily available. Plus of course at a stroke the criminal element would lose their market, incentive and profit. Surely street crime and petty thefts would fall making all our lives a little better.
Who knows with a little forward thought the Government might be able to find a way to tax it and actually make money instead of wasting it.
The war on drugs is a money pit as we all know. Our government invested billions in something that doesn't work since the Nixon administration. About 75% of the people in jail and prison are there for a drug crime. The situation is that, unlike a murderer or bank robber, if a dealer is arrested and taken off the street, there's at least 10 more to take his/her place. The return on the dollar for manufacturing and dealing in illegal drugs is insane and there's plenty of people willing to take the risk. Just like alcohol was during Prohibition. That's the situation and no one has came up with a solutution.
Is jail really the answer? After a drug dealer or addict serves their time, guess what they go back to (in most cases)?
If Barney Frank and Ron Paul can get together on the right (meaning, sane, smart) side of this issue, there's gotta be something to it.
I live in California where medical marijuana is legal. It's legal in the state but illegal at the federal level.
How schizo is that?
What's the saying, those who don't remember history are condemned to repeat it? Prohibition taught us nothing? Nancy Reagan taught us nothing?
I guess we're making some progress, tho. I rarely hear weed slammed as the evil "gateway drug" it used to be....
I would agree with what a lot of other people here are saying. Let's just legalize the lot of it. Our economy will get a boost, crime will go down, and everyone will be better off (imo.)
Let's just observe that not a single person here has said "no," not even TMMason, a McCarthy enthusiast. History is slowly moving in our direction, but it is kind of absurd how slow the pace can be. Meanwhile, lives get destroyed every day. Check out my profile to read about some of the damage.
American flags until abt 1900
King James Bibles until about 1936
Declaration of Independence
the parachutes we used in WWII
all made from hemp and cannabis properties
It seems that here at HP we as hubbers can finally all agree on a topic.
We are not that different from each other.
Just want to put in my 2 cents worth and say YES, it should be legalized.
Politicians were the reason pot was banned to begin with I believe. Cotton farmers couldn't compete with the many uses that the cannabis plant offered. It was in essence killing the cotton business because it is easier to grow, hardier, and more broadly applied to a variety of applications -- from clothing to medicine. In today's world, it is a shame it is still banned (for the most part).
It is an amazing medicinal component for those who suffer the side effects of cancer, chemo therapy, aides, hangovers, along with being an outstanding pain reliever and general "feel-good" drug. I'm betting that the RX companies would hate to see it legalized; no more need for xanex, Zoloft, and many other mental health applications as well as several of the stomach related drugs could be discontinued as well.
It is just ridiculous that it is still an illegal drug; the profit margins would stagger most economics politicians. But then they would actually have something to count (weed tax money) to earn their paycheck! Might cut into all of those days off and vacations we tax payers spring for. Just my opinion...
We don't hear much about the cotton farming lobby in Washington these days....
yes, it is time to bring thi under cfontrols and allow it.
Legalizing marijuana would reduce accidents due to acute paranoia. It would also dramatically increase the statistic in people saying " I don't give a sh?t.
That is a side-effect that doesn't happen in all people. It happens in very few actually.
Another untrue statement. I know plenty of people who function better, physically/mentally/emotionally and even artistically, when high. They do not have the attitude as you suggest.
I'm stuck in the middle. No, because drugs are BAD for you, and people do stupid things when high, it hurts fertility, makes you stupid, etc... But I also want to say yes, because I'm sick of pot heads talking about it. If we legalize marijuana, we won't have to listen to whining potheads anymore -_-
Yes, yes yes! But for god's sake don't make it a prescription, just make it legal for recreational use... I don't think a pot head should smoke tax dollars!
I think it is okay to legalise it. I would not encourage smoking it but I dont feel jails should be full of people just for a smoke.
A conflict of interest, concerning traditional American legalities, GDP and worldwide trade, our political positions in OTHER countries where we are more firm than is represented by our citizens, and a reason for those indifferent to change their opinion of us. The U.S. is the 'police-state' and patrollman of the globe- how could we ever legalize it? We would have to stop starting wars, and sell peace sign buttons and hats, which sounds vaguely familiar...
I hope we do too!!!
to not consider this now, would be futal I believe. we need to solve it, but like everything else, we will kick this can down the road as usual.
as odd as this sounds! It could be a real source of revenue for states, and may become a legitimate income source, if delt with and handeled correctly. You have to wounder.
as for the negitive arguments, people will smoke and drive, etc...etc...
all I can say to that is, "DUH" where have you been since the 1960's!!!!!
we have laws for that also, and when handeled correctly, they work. so no fear. Legalize it. Not just for Medicine, but just like Liquor stores, age ID, sales regulation and taxable income. its about time.
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