Illegal Abuse

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   SpanStarposted 11 years ago

   I saw just the other day several illegals in shadow being interviewed and they were talking about something that didn't even cross my mind.  They talked about working here in America in the fields and being approached by the Boss/Bosses, legal work hands or even illegal males demanding sex from illegal females.  If they refuse they can be fired or if they report it they may be deported so they take the abuse and say nothing.  So what's your take on this situation?

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      Mighty Momposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Doesn't surprise me in the least.
      These workers have no rights and no representation.
      They work at the 'pleasure' (pun intended) of their bosses.
      
      See the movie "Food, Inc." and the segment on the chicken processing plants if you want to see how badly these people are abused -- just because they can be.

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         Paul Wingertposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Illegal workers = Abuse

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      tammyswallowposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I am not surprised by this but saddened. I do feel for those who come to this country to escape bad lives. It is sad to think that conditions such as these are an improvement from what they have left behind. That shouldn't be allowed.

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   SpanStarposted 11 years ago

   Hello Mighty Mom,
   
      I saw about little over 20 minutes of Food, Inc by way of PBS so the segments about how the workers are/were treated wasn't seen by me.  This Food, In program seems to be even bigger than the worker issue since the idea behind the program from my view point is the food industry is making people sick in the way they process food.  I forget the exact figure in the movie like 60% of the people born after 2000 can expect to get diabetes because of the foods we eat.
   
   
   Hi Paul Wingert,
   
       I take it from your commit that because illagels are working in the US that is abuse to the US?  I'm not going to argue that, the question I have is weren't these illegals hired by an American or American representative?

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   Mighty Momposted 11 years ago

   Hi SpanStar,
   You are correct. The whole premise of the movie is about controlling our nation's food supply. And how food doesn't nourish us, it makes us sick. Hmmm. Who might benefit from such a scenario? Makers of blood pressure medicine and other drugs to control artifically induced health problems?
   But I digress.
   The segment I was referring to shows American companies raiding the barracks of chicken plant workers and deporting them. Just because they can.
   
   I can't speak for Paul but I don't believe that is how he meant his comment.
   
   Illegal workers are ripe for abuse because they are shadow people.
   Who can they complain to?

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   handymanbillposted 11 years ago

   I to am saddened by the fact they are abused. But then they always have the right to go back to where they cam from. Then if they want to come back do it the Legal Way. Then maybe they would not be abused. Illegals need to go home to there country. Come here legally. They open the door for themselves to be used and abused when they sneak across the border because they think things are better here. They are a terrible burden on the taxpayers. A lot of the money they make is sent home and not even spent in this country.

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      recommend1posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Illegal immigrants are not a burden on the taxpayers - except through the endless cycle of catching them and deporting them. But this is all totally unnecessary as a simple change of the law would stop it all - just heavily fine the employers of illegal immigrants - but that will never happen because the people who make your laws are the employers.  It is hard to imagine whole countries so stupid they elect these high level abusers into office !

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         Uninvited Writerposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Yep, seems to me that would solve everything.

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      Lisa HWposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I'm not a big fan of illegal immigration, but I'd venture to guess that the person who comes here illegally may be coming from one kind of hell and ending up in another kind of hell.  "Hell Number 1" and "Hell Number 2":  I think those may be their real options.  It's always really easy for people who aren't in one situation or another to sit back and say what  someone else who is in that situation "can just do".
      
      People who are hungry or have hungry families and/or people in desperate need don't necessarily have the luxury of opening doors to abuse.  They usually just find themselves among a population of people who were born into situations of doors that were already open for abuse and mistreatment.
      
      When someone commits abuse/mistreatment (or worse) I don't think it really even matters who the victim is.  The "point" is the individual's crime against another human being.  The immigration issue is a separate one to be dealt with separately.  Blaming the victim for "opening the doors to abuse" is essentially like blaming battered women and rape victims and anyone other kind of victim for someone else's crime.
      
      Besides, a whole lot of educated, middle-class or above, American women (or former children, girls or boys) will tell you that one can believe she's keeping all those "doors to abuse" closed - and still find herself dealing with someone who comes in through the windows or the chimney.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      Terrible burden on the taxpayer? According to the treasury report on illegal immigration the average American is 1% richer because of illegal immigration than they would be otherwise.

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   Shanna11posted 11 years ago

   I think it's terrible these women cannot live decent lives in their own countries or ours. I'm not a supporter of illegal immigration, but if they're offering benefits to our country, I think we should work to help them gain citizenship, learn English and benefit our society even more.
   
   Two of my brother's close friends were killed while riding their bikes when a car of illegal immigrants swerved off the road, hit them and then tried to flee to the Mexican border, where they were detained. I have a hard time putting together what happened there with the reality that the majority of illegal immigrants just want a better life and aren't going to be a detriment to society.
   
   Two of my roommates are from Mexico on student visas, and I was fine with them, but then they moved their illegal sisters in (no visas and its against the apartment complex rules) and now our small apartment is way too crowded, I'm the only one who speaks English, and they eat all my food, so again, I have trouble fitting my beliefs together with reality.

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   SpanStarposted 11 years ago

   However we may view illegals or the situation of immigration we are Americans and we hold ourselves up to the world as honoring laws and justice. Usually, usually we know when something is wrong and whether we like illegals or dislike the illegals the issue is about justice and we cannot be just Americans if we are willing to accept injustice.

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      Josakposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      +1

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   Jules Gonzalezposted 11 years ago

   It's just another form of slavery. It is sad and sickening.

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