If you're married and your wife came home and said she ..........

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   sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

   Aborted the fetus she found out she was carrying because it just didn't work for her right now. Remember it's her body and her right, would you give a care?

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      You should re-phrase your question to portray a situation that actually happens.  Perhaps then someone will offer some thoughts.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Well I've been here about a year and I'm still waiting for thought from you. I know if your hipocrasy is exposed you'll run and hide so, good job!

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I'm still waiting for you to figure out spell check.

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               Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               You're a stickler for detail. Too bad you make the same mistakes as the rest of us, proves you're human.

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               sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Still hiding as usual.

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         Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Its happened.

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            Cite a single provable case.

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               sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Go review the supporting evidence and the story behind the pictures for Roe v. Wade.

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               Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               What proof could I possibly give that you would accept? I could tell you my story but I have no proof that it occurred other than my word, and I'm sure you wouldn't take my word for it, would you?

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Hey Padrino they just make it up as they move along don't bother yourself with it.

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                     Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Trust me, I don't.

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                  Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  I knew there was no such case, I was just enjoying the thought of you two contorting through a story to try to make it fit the originally posted absurd premise.
                  
                  You never dissappoint.

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Ron say something based on reality rather than your own ignorant opinion, please.

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                        Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        I'm not the one who came up with the absurd scenario.  Show a case that fits your original post.
                        
                        This should be fun.

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               kerrygposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Actually one of my husband's cousins did it because she couldn't stand to give birth to another of her husband's spawn.
               
               But that was an arranged marriage to a man who emotionally (and later physically) abused her, cheated on her, and gave her the clap, so it's not exactly the sort of situation sneak is talking about!
               
               It IS, on the other hand, exactly the sort of situation that makes requiring spousal consent before a married woman gets an abortion an offense against human rights.
               
               Personally I can't imagine a situation where I'd get an abortion without talking about it with my husband first, but he's always made it clear that if for some reason I did feel it was necessary, he would support me.

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                  sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  You have a good partner but I hope you would not exercise your option.

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      Mikel G Robertsposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Would I care? Yes.
      
      What about MY rights, isn't the fetus mine as well? Shouldn't I have some kind of a say in the situation?

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Absolutely! If you view abortion the way hummanist do, you would have no say unless the woman decided to let you have one.

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         Daniel Carterposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with Mikel. Well spoken.
         
         In addition, although the fetus can't really indicate, I think it's pretty common knowledge that we all wanted to survive, and so therefore, it could be two votes in favor of sustaining pregnancy and delivery.
         
         That said, abortion is not all bad in emergency situations, etc. It's a tricky dance, this one.

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            Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            So what, do you tie her down to a bed until she gives birth?

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               sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Do you think a wife should make that decision on her own if she's not in the mood to raise children?

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                  Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  No, but if a woman does not want a child you cannot force her to give birth.
                  
                  Of course, if you are in a committed relationship you should discuss something as important as a child. That is why it's not a good idea to marry someone who says they don't want children expecting they will change their mind.

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     True. If you were pregnant and you wanted the baby but your husband said no we can't afford it would you have an abortion?

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                        Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                        Personally, I would not have an abortion under any circumstances.
                        
                        In that case I'd find another husband...

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                           sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                           I knew you were a good soul! Want me to send you a book of Mormon?

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                              Uninvited Writerposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                              That's okay, I read it when I was an Osmond fan

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                                 sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                                 Whoa! I almost licked the stamp too!

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      skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's her decision to keep it,cause she is going to feel the pain. No matter how we males twist the words, it's female who feel the pain. Let her decide no matter how irrational she thinks about fetus. Words play of morality/rights can't replace the pains.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         Here we're talking about a husband not one night stand.

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            skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            So what ? That doesn't change the case, pains are pains be it one night stand or marriage.

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               sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Does your Mom know you're playing with the computer?

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                  skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                  Lol,my family is aware of my these views thanks for mormonic sarcasm.

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                     sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Anytime.

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                     habeeposted 15 years agoin reply to this

                     Sneako, you're a mormon??

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      Greek Oneposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      If she did it out of spite, I would say:
      
      "It's OK.. I got one growing in your mom right now so I got a lot on my plate as well"

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      Beelzedadposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I'd think she just broke her marriage vows buy not revealing the knowledge of the fetus to her husband. Yes, it is her body and her right, as it is her obligation to uphold her marriage vows.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         I agree, good comment.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      I am sure you are very upset sneako - but maybe - just maybe - she couldn't bear to listen to this holier-than-thou crap any longer? You sure that is not what she said instead of your make believe story?
      
      Which pretty much makes it your fault. Will Jesus punish you for that?
      
      Do you think if you hadn't spent all that time preaching and telling other people what they should be doing she might have made a different choice?
      
      I have to say - I don't blame her one little bit. Good for you for getting this out of your system though. Does it make the homophobia go away? Even just a little bit?

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         What?

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      Springboardposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's a matter of trust. It's a matter of respect. It's a matter of communication. That is what defines a marriage. Not a piece of paper signed by a reverend, or filed in a county clerk's office, or determined by some arrangement as someone else suggested. These are the qualities that define a marriage.
      
      So in any case, such as abortion, or any matter, you have to trust, respect, and communicate with your spouse. It's a matter of there being two people involved. I would have to say that in the scenario you described, I don't see a marriage at all.
      
      I'll give you an example that is along the same lines, though not directly related. I want a kid, and my wife does not. So during sex one night I decide to pull out late to try and impregnate her and then shrug it off as "it must have been an accident." In so doing, I have broken the sanctity of my marriage.
      
      I want a kid and she does not. So that just means we have to trust in each other, respect each other, and continue the line of communication to help us to decide together what is right, what is wanted, and what will ultimately be decided. Not go behind each other's backs and do whatever we want without any regard for the one we supposedly claim to love.

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         sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         You're right all over the map! I bow to your greatness!

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      Urbane Chaosposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Hell, I'd ask her where the BBQ sauce was.. I hear those things are great protein.   

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   pinkyleeposted 15 years ago

   yes you should mikel ... im not stupid to think people dont do this though i strongly disagree with it but if they find they are in a situation that abortion comes up it should be a joint discussion unless there is no joint to it. eve still abortion is never right under any circumstances plain and simple

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Right on target Pinky!

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   aka-djposted 15 years ago

   I'd laugh.
   
   I know she'd be joking.
   
   We have both been....how should I say??
   
   Surgically modified.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Well you handled your situation in a mature and thoughtful manner.

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   Arthur Fontesposted 15 years ago

   It happens.  I know a young man who was very excited about the pregnancy of his girlfriend.  They had a fight, she aborted to hurt him. At least that is what her facebook page said.
   
   She succeeded.

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   sneakorocksolidposted 15 years ago

   It has happened and the Roe vs Wade case was based on back street abortions and the deaths associated with them In particular a case where a woman had an affair and tried to abort the fetus and died.

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   Padrinoposted 15 years ago

   How about you prove this woman is lying.
   
   http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index … 429AAhgNax

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      Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      It's up to me to prove the negative?
      
      Do you ever stop to wonder why people who share your beliefs are drifting farther and farther to the fringes of society?

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         Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

         That makes no sense, but thanks for attempting to be relevant!

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            Ron Montgomeryposted 15 years agoin reply to this

            I'm sure it doesn't to you.
            
            Thanks for the entertainment.
            
            We'll pause for a moment while you log out and Sab Oh logs in.

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               Padrinoposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               Now I'm a Sab oh? Is there anybody I am not? Its getting crowded in your head!

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               skyfireposted 15 years agoin reply to this

               

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   Disturbiaposted 15 years ago

   I'm not a guy so I don't have a wife, but if I were, I'd be on my cell phone to the lawyer and the locksmith while I was kicking her out the door.

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      sneakorocksolidposted 15 years agoin reply to this

      Exactly!

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   heart4thewordposted 15 years ago

   I would think a man's first question would be, who's baby is it?

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   Successful Mommiposted 15 years ago

   I dont think its right, a husband and wife should discuss their options with the pregnancy together. However, I would hope that a husband and wife already discussed this before getting married so that there is no question as to what their choice would be.

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    selrachposted 15 years ago

    When my son who was not planned was young, I asked him what he wanted to be when he grew up.He told me he wanted to be an astronaut and be fired into space.If his mother had been five minutes later coming home he would have been.

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