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   gmwilliamsposted 10 years ago

   
   To all New Jerseyans out there, there are so many interestingly THINGS in your state such as Clinton Road.  Yes, THAT road in which according to legend and theories, one DARE NOT to go at NIGHT!   Then there is the so-called Jersey Devil.   My oh MY!   Now, there is the DEVIL'S TREE.   It is said to be the portal to hell and if one touches it, WOE be to him/her.   Have YOU seen and/or heard of such legends or do YOU believe it is a lot of boogaboo nonsense?

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      Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Youtube has a lot of Jersey Devil videos. Some are obviously fake. However, where is that infared film of it taken in the last year or so? That didn't look so fake.

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         Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j9j5syzp5Q

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            Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Eerie, Phyllis, thanks. The one i'm talking about was taken about a couple hundred feet away at night in the forest and looked like the general descriptions of it. Darn, wish we could find it 'cause it is very convincing and amazing.

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               Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Wow! I would like to see that, Alastar. I will go search some more. Was it moving?

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               Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Wow !  I would like to see that one, Alastar. I will go search some more. Was the creature moving or still?

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         Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Where are all the true believers and die-hard skeptics with their confirmation bias on this one?!

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Alastar, this Clinton Road would be good for your site. We should get an article up there for your readers. Lots of strange things take place there. Have you ever been in that area?  It would be awesome to explore that.

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               Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               I like a lady writer who can take a subtle hint and run with it. You know where to land and get all the incoming trimmings.

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                  Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Well, alrighty then -- guess I tripped right into that pot hole, huh?  Looks like I have my work cut out for me the day or two. Yes, as long as I tripped, might as well land in the right place. 

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      My gosh, GM -- I just looked up legends of Clinton Road. Now that is one spooookay place for sure, what with the ghost boy throwing coins back up when someone tosses one in the water. And the ghost truck that follows vehicles. Then the strange wolf-like creatures and hell-hounds!  I do not think I would like to go there at night, for sure.
      
      Now, what about this devil tree thing?

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         gmwilliamsposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         According to the legend, many nefarious events occurred regarding the tree such as lynchings by the KKK.  The legend stated that the vicinity surrounding the tree was a strong KKK stronghold- bad karma there.   There is another legend which indicated that the tree is a portal to hell and that anyone who dares touch the tree will have a permanent black dust on their hands.  Also, it was purported that demons guard the tree to prevent someone from cutting it down.   Furthermore, it is stated that if someone dares to tamper with the tree, there is a TRUCK which will ran them off the road, eeeeerie, boogetyboogetyBOOOOOO!

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Goooood Grief !!!!  Poor tree was just growing there, minding its own business when it was turned into a disastrous legend.

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   Alastar Packerposted 10 years ago

   It was filmed in infared apparently deep in the Pine Barrens and seemed to move some. I don't know all the details but sure would like to get a gander at it again- thanks, Phyllis!

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I tried to find the video, but that ol' Jersey devil is just too elusive, Alastar. There is one good video of a mother and son who saw the creature, took pictures of its foot prints in snow, had lie detector tests, paranormal researchers, the monster hunt team tried to thrush the creature out of the forest, -- a very convincing story,the best one I have seen, but, again no solid proof.

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         Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         Shucks, Phyllis, thanks for trying'. If I ever see it again will certainly let you know.

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            Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            Well, I am thinking the Jersey devil must be an unusually large 'wapacuthu'.

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               Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Or it very possibly could be a Tlanuwa -- which is a giant bird of prey with impenetrable metal feathers, from Cherokee mythology.

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                  Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Holy Superior Phyllis! You sure know your Appalachian and Cherokee legends. I think your making the right choice and you know what I mean by that. Had to look those two up. So,the Tlanuwa is more regular bird-like and the wapacuthu is more owl-like?

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                     Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                     Exactly, Alastar. The wapacuthu (sounds like Cherokee name - archaic name) is the Bubo virginianus virginianus which is the Common Great Horned Owl. If you look at the pic on wiki, the CGHO looks very much like a creature that could frighten people at night. The wing span of a female can be up to 5 feet, and the tracks I saw in the video with the mother and son are similar to the three toed Owl. Plus it has those eerie huge yellow eyes.  The Tlanuwa is more bird-like according to the Cherokee myth.
                     
                     And yes, I do know what you mean -- thank you for that, my friend.

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               Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               A few tried to explain away the Mothman of Point Pleasant as an extraordinary-sized owl. What an exploded theory. I don't know any owls who can keep up with cars going 70+ miles an hour for one thing.

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                  Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

                  Now that is exploded for sure. I have watched owls fly and they do not go that fast. It is funny when they take off, they are so heavy they swoop down afore they get the wind under their wings. Beautiful in their own way.

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   grand old ladyposted 10 years ago

   In the Philippines there was a story about a lady in white on a particular street. There were always stories they heard from others, but no first person accounts. The stories got wilder over time, with the lady knocking on doors, screaming, disappearing as your car crashed into her. But I think that urban legend no longer exists., although the street is still there.

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      Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      One of the best people and poets HP has ever seen had an upfront and personal 'lady in white' experience in Kentucky that literally changed his life...and became his muse. At the Chickamauga battlefield in N Georgia there's a 'lady in white' whose reported by tourists from all over the world, most of whom know nothing of her legend. Park Rangers have seen her, too.  Not New Jersey but there you go.

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         Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

         It really is too bad he left HP. I have lost touch with him. I hope he is still writing.

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            Alastar Packerposted 10 years agoin reply to this

            He is, Phyllis. Believe he's on G+ and his own site. Unbelievably good what this poet can create and what a muse he's got too inspire. Im super glad his story was in M&M book one. Talked about him on a Hollywood interview for the book, too, and was most pleased to do so.

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               Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

               Thanks, Alastar, I will look him up. What a great story for M&M.

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      Phyllis Doyleposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Lady, there are so many sightings and legends about a "lady in white" that there must be some truth in it. I did not know there are similar legends in the Philippines, too. That is very interesting.
      
      New Jersey and the Appalachian regions abound with legends like this and many others.

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   Alastar Packerposted 10 years ago

   Uh-huh gifted one. I meant the road. We talk later.

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