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  1. accofranco profile image73
    accofrancoposted 8 years ago

    Only fools said there is no God,and they only realize the truth on the edge of falling out from the sphere (at death),French philosopher experienced this.But if u insist,try this: fast for at least 7 days,i mean dry fasting,and pray each day asking God to prove to u he exist,then on the last day of your fasting,pray so arogantly,challenging God to prove his existence.Come back and tell me your outcome,i'll tell u what to do.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Only a fool would recommend that people go without food and water for 7 days. wink

    2. sunforged profile image70
      sunforgedposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      yes god makes a lot of sense when your body and mind is weakened and your in a state of shock.

      A stronger test is to sit back with a full body and an open mind and wonder by so many people worship such a sadistic deity. Fear? Starved minds?

      I wonder how well this will translate,... you annoy the hell out of me

      so thats my outcome, now tell me what to do, oh annoying one

    3. RKHenry profile image78
      RKHenryposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      I'm starting to see the trend being set here.  You like to stir people up. Good luck with that. 

      I value you as a good writer and hubber. But my opinion is this stuff is getting somewhat old.  Not everyone wants to fight, argue or bash.  Thanks.  Just looking out for your best interest.  Is this what you want to base your reputation on?  A shit, pot stirrer?  smile

    4. mohitmisra profile image54
      mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      Have done 5 days a few times and the only thing which kept me going was God. He looks after you at all times ,I know he looks after me -simple.

      You constantly look after me,
      That is why now I am drinking this tea.

      His planning is just too much. smile

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        sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I tried fasting once, I made it about half a day before I didn't feel very good.  Thank God for telling me it was okay to eat if it hurt that bad... you know hunger pains and all.  smile 

        He was like, Sandy... are you crazy, if I wanted you to fast I would withhold your food. smile  lol

        1. Everyday Miracles profile image90
          Everyday Miraclesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          It's amazing... That has happened to me before! I had determined to fast and hunger got the better of me. I was feeling out of sorts and angry and I went to break my fast when I suddenly became nauseated at the smell of food! Needless to say I continued with the fast.

          But I've never done a seven day dry fast and I don't think that I would.

          1. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            I have done it twice - but I was a lot fitter (and weighed much less than I do now) - I would not recommend it unless you work towards it. Bot times I did it I had not eaten meat for at least 6 months before hand.

            Did not meet a god either time lol

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            sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Then what happened?  Did you have a revelation?

            My revelation was that I didn't need to fast to understand God. big_smile 

            I am in no way making fun of you but wonder what yours was.

            1. Everyday Miracles profile image90
              Everyday Miraclesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

              Nope, definitely no revelations. But I don't know that that's what fasting is about, either. On a personal level, I have never been able to figure out what fasting is supposed to be all about anyway. I know it's supposed to bring us closer to God but I guess I just can't connect with that.

              Not to say I've never had a revelation. I became a Christian in my sleep lol

              Oh, and in my "previous life" when I was a pagan, the purpose of fasting was so that you could better enjoy the big feasts smile

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                sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                LOL, your funny.  smile  Maybe then you did it for the same reasons Mark did... the closer to death you get I suppose the closer to the ultimate truth you become?  I dunno really.

                But it would seem like it.  I mean, if you go long enough without food you die and why you wouldn't eat if your hungry and there is food available is probably the same as Mark jumping out of a perfectly good airplane. lol big_smile 

                It is probably true, to better understand your limitations I suppose.  Sucks to be me, I wouldn't jump out of a good working airplane and can't last a day without food. lol.

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                  You are underestimating yourself. I would put money that you could go without food for a lot longer than a day if you had to.

                  About 35 days actually wink

                  The water is the problem.

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                    sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

                    I am sure I could but wouldn't catch me doing it unless I had not other choice. big_smile  I will reserve my fasting experience for when there is no temptation. LOL big_smile

        2. mohitmisra profile image54
          mohitmisraposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          I do not advice anyone to fast ,I advice them to meditate. :)Yet fasting does bring one closer to God.You understand food does give you energy to live but you can live with very little food.Its god who is keeping you alive . smile

          Here I would like to add an interesting story.
          A great sage is giving a sermon and many have come to hear him and seek his blessings.Everyone was listening eagerly except one person who was rummaging about for food.

          Some disciples got angry and scolded him saying don't you know you are seeing and hearing a great saint,why don't you sit down quietly like the rest of us this is a rare opportunity.
          To this the master interferes and says first feed him something only then can he meditate.One cannot meditate on an empty stomach.
          Similarly the Buddha says- the middle path.

          I like what Sandra said earlier-

          He was like, Sandy... are you crazy, if I wanted you to fast I would withhold your food.

  2. calebd profile image54
    calebdposted 8 years ago

    Hahahahahaha

  3. Leah Wingert profile image62
    Leah Wingertposted 8 years ago

    "The fool says in his heart "There is no god."" Psalm 14:1

    1. accofranco profile image73
      accofrancoposted 8 years ago in reply to this

         You are the only True believer here. Don't mind them,they will realize the truth on the day of death,by then,it is too late.So what happens next?

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        Well sunshine - you might want to be careful what you suggest. If you think the only way to hallucinate god is to dry fast for 7 days, if some one takes you up on that and becomes ill - as most Americans are likely to do if they tried this - you could find yourself in court of you ever do get to that disgusting western country.

        lol

      2. Leah Wingert profile image62
        Leah Wingertposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I don't mind unbelievers, but neither do I JUDGE THEM! That is not my or your job.  My father was an unbeliever who knew the Bible like a preacher and could RESPECTFULLY argue his point on God, Science and Religion.  We are all guilty of polarizing this situation because of the continued attacks of one faction against another.  It's not about who believes what. Especially in this forum.  It is about what we believe and how we (especially those of us who claim to be the body), react.  From what I see we are reacting badly.  I have seen and read some very disturbing things here.  Especially from "believers".  Learn about the art of Apologetics and evangalism and use scripture to back yourself up.  There is no one here who could shake my faith, because it's been rocked to the core, and it's still here.  Have at it, squabble, argue, act like children on a play ground because that in essence is what this is.  But THINK.  Believers, think about that the unbelievers have said and ponder why they've said it.  For many unbelievers it is us the body of Christ who have caused the most damage, because we do and say and act in ways that are not Christ like.  Unbelievers, if the suggestion makes sense (which fasting for seven days unless you are the Son of God, does not, sorry), think it through is it logical, is it safe, is it sane?    There is no need for us to defend God.  He's pretty good at taking care of himself.

        1. gamergirl profile image60
          gamergirlposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          From someone who adheres to an alternate form of belief, to you lady, I tip my hat.

          Quoted for absolute truth.

          1. Leah Wingert profile image62
            Leah Wingertposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            Thank you, what I see and how people are reacting and saying they are speaking for God makes me wonder if they've picked up a Bible lately.  Chrurches are full of sinners.  Sometimes we tend to forget that.

      3. Shil1978 profile image86
        Shil1978posted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I don't know what happens next - please enlighten me smile Btw, have you tried fasting for 7 days yourself? Do share your conclusions if you have!!

  4. accofranco profile image73
    accofrancoposted 8 years ago

    Shil... i am happy and pleased with your question.I must be sincere,i have never fasted up to 7 days because whenever i try,i usually break it along the line by either arguing with people or thinking sinfully but, my mother do fast like that and whenever she does,she normally gets revellations and whoever she laid her hands on (if the person is sick or suffering from anything) always received healings and comfort.And if things are being difficult with you,and she prays for you,then all your problems are gone.Its really beneficial to worship God with true heart,but its always difficult to follow because of sin and temptations,i do tell my mother this and she always said it is always by his grace (referring to God) that we can be able to worship him truly.Thank u for asking,i will tell u more with time.Remain blessed.

  5. Everyday Miracles profile image90
    Everyday Miraclesposted 8 years ago

    Why did you do it, Mark? I mean for what purpose?

    While I am a believer, I have to confess that my experience with fasting is only that it makes me incredibly irritable!

    1. Mark Knowles profile image60
      Mark Knowlesposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      To see what it felt like. Same reason I have jumped out of airplanes, cycled 1,000 miles in a week, partaken of a sweat lodge, and gone without meat for a year and any number of other things.

      How else do you find out about yourself?

  6. accofranco profile image73
    accofrancoposted 8 years ago

    @ Mark, you are 100% correct.This is exactly what Maslow explained in his theory of hierarchy of needs, as soon as man satisfies his innate (basic) needs,he starts to seek for the more higher ones,which is real and practical. "man does not live by bread alone when the bread is there, but he does when the bread is not there".Keep up with your wonderful debate,i am enjoying it over here,kudos!

  7. aka-dj profile image76
    aka-djposted 8 years ago

    Hey Sandra, I checked out your other project. How's that going. Haven't heard back from you, re your request. Cheers. smile

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      sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

      hmm??? I didn't get anything.  sad

      1. aka-dj profile image76
        aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

        I replied to the email that you sent. Your yahoo address(I believe). I replied,and then followed up later to see where you were up to.

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          sandra rinckposted 8 years ago in reply to this

          Oh that would explain it, I hardly ever use my yahoo mail. I will check and see if it is there later.  Sorry bout that.  You were prolly like, how she gonna ask for something and then not reply. lol.  sorry.

          big_smile

          1. aka-dj profile image76
            aka-djposted 8 years ago in reply to this

            You wil not BELIEVE what I did think. But it surely was nothing (critical)of you though. hmm
            Sorry, got to go now. sad

  8. Make  Money profile image68
    Make Moneyposted 8 years ago

    I find that fasting before receiving the Eucharist at Sunday Mass makes my stomach growl.  7 days of intentional fasting, knowing food was available would be brutally hard to do.  Some people do a partial fasting of their favorite foods for Lent or Advent then include giving to charities at the end of the period.  My father used to quit smoking for Lent.  I still haven't been able to accomplish that myself. smile

 
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