When did this whole religion thing really start ?
Was it after that people started asking questions to their leaders ? Questions like : What is the origin of life ? What is the sun made of ? Why must YOU be the leader ?
A true leader offcourse cannot admit he doesn't hold answers ,for this could undermine his position ;so these guys not only came up with answers but achieved the incredible stunt
of connecting themselves with the gods they just invented .
After that they where called priests .
And so this story goes on since prehistoric times.
"Shamanism or the art of ecstasy,
The ultimate being one with the super entity"
Man is looking for happiness in his life. The ultimate happiness is encountered when you go back to the source-the light.
How does it make a difference if the answer is in poetry and being a poet that is how I work.
apeksha your sense of humor is almost Australian! Love it!
Then write some of ur poems in ur hubs..I would like 2 read those...Coz I can also love poems...n shayari..
I believe that religion started when a need for controling the masses was found .
Do 1 & 2 have to come together , as 1 or 2 is by affected the other makes it give the meaning to deny gods or one God as we understands.
I think the original message has been tampered with,but you clearly understand waht I mean.let's not take this discussion to a level where the simplicity of the questions and their possible answers could get lost.I've been raised by jesuits from my fifth till my thirteenth year,I think I know most of the tricks;-)
Vedas" Who is to say when this universe began.No one really knows."
I was talking about religion,not the universe.
Similar no one really knows.The first recorded prophet is considered to be Zarathustra- The Parsi Prophet but then you had the mystics from Asia ,America, Africa and South America before that, so no one can give a proper date.We do not know since when man has been inhabiting this world.
Of course we do.
There is good evidence that Homo sapiens originated in East Africa around 200,000 years ago.
I suspect they needed an answer to the unanswerable pretty soon afterwards, and the first "religion" or "art" we have found is the cave paintings in Chauvet, France depicting hunting "magic." These are thought to be 32,000 years old.
Thanks for this information it was interesting especially the paintings in France.But can anyone really say for sure?
Indian mythology claims Manu as being the first human .
Well, I guess you can only say "for sure" if you were there. The best we have is from the evidence we have been able to uncover so far.
Certainly Hindu theology has a more realistic time measurement system than the BS christian creationist rubbish that people like Make Money spout.
Not sure it is practical to attribute the whole of mankind to one single person in either mythology though. It is easy to forget we are animals when you claim some divine connection.
True we are animals, tiny insects on this planet in one aspect.
When the tsunami happened in south India all the animals ran up the mountains or hills, the elephants broke their chains and ran.It was the human who didn't , so I believe that animals are connected to the divine more than most human.They can sense you so easily while a human cannot.
Its just that this earth has changed so much with time, Teutonic plates shifting and changing the face of the earth.The Himalayas happened this way with time .Then the poles are supposed to shift with time and create destruction so how do we know if there was human life before and could probably be buried so deep and haven't yet found it.
We both know make money talks out of ego.I gave him the benefit of the doubt earlier on but you were correct and I was wrong.
I'M SURE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DID HAPPEN ALL THOSE EONS AGO IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER - NOBODY KNEW ANY ANSWERS TO MANKIND'S TROUBLING QUESTIONS, SO THEY MADE THEM UP AND THE MOST COURGEOUS OF THE LOT APPOINTED THEMSELVES THE NUMBER ONE AUTHORITY - HE ATTACHED A TITLE TO HIS NAME AND WALLA!
HE BECAME THE HIGH PRIEST OR WHATEVER THE POSITION WAS CALLED AT THE TIME -
YES - THAT COULD HAVE VERY WELL HAVE OCCURRED WAY BACK THEN -
CHARFREUNDLI (HIGH PRIEST OF ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE)
after people population increases and familys or tribes had spreaded on the globe.
some time has passed and Adam the first father and prophet religion changed untill another prophet is sent.
God says:(Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. )
The religion started from the time of Adam (peace be upon him), the first human being created by God.
Ahh..when did it start? My favourite quote in regards to this...
"When Neanderthal man walked out of his cave to see a sky of stars, he reached up to try and grab one to eat it. When he couldn't do so, he figured they belonged to someone else, and thus God was born."
Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'
This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise.
I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.
GREAT quote Mark!
Douglas Adams is a demigod. Remember kids, don't panic.
I think it may have started when the first guy thought,"Hey...I can make money with this!"
I feel like dancing and singing...
Soooo long, goooood bye, and thanks for all the fish!
Douglas Adams - the sentient puddle, the number 42 and
"Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?".
When did religion start ?
Roughly about 6,000 years ago when God created heaven and earth.
Was it about the same time that man created gods?
If religion started when god created the earth, what about the other religions? Is there only one god (i believe there is) but that is contradicting the other religions of hindu with mutiple gods. Anyway theres the theory of evoulution and life dates back millions of years.
So true, so true. And then, a little while after that, the plate ran away with the spoon.
The Gods are in the sky.Seven levels of angesl being an ancient categorisation system for the brightness and colour of visible stars. The solar system planets are the gods who pop up in much of mythology, christianity begins by mentioning three wise men visiting from the east which has to be a conjunction of three planets or some other astronomical event which has been placed into an existing greek story.
As soon as a child looks up at the sky there are Gods being created. The names may change but the characteristics remain the same.Add the natural forces of the earth to the Sun, Moon and stars and you pretty much have an explanation for every religion on the planet.
Thats not a bad thing , or a good thing, its just a useful explanation and happens to be the one I believe.
Religion started back when apes, our ancestors (ironic isn't it), those apes started thinking about things and becoming curious, asking themselves questions, if they don't understand it they believe of some mystic force and from there is built on until somehow theres christianity and islam and whatever religion
I have noticed on several posts (including other threads) citing "controlling the masses" (and the like) as reasons/origins of religion. That may be true for religion, but Jesus, talking to His disciples said to "turn the other cheek, lay down your life for others, love your enemies, he that wants to be the greatest among you, let him be servant of all. . ."
Doesn't sound like controlling words to me.
they are nice words.
no, really wise with being so nice
I would use words a little stronger than "nice". Opening doors for ladies, standing up for an elder on a bus, they are nice. We need to have a lot more "backbone" in our convictions, to follow the teachings I referred to.
Wish I could say I have it "down pat", sadly, I don't.
Jezus Christ in his time must be considered not only as a dissident from the jewish religion but also as an extreme purist who wanted his idea of a god to be pushed thrue to the extreme,he even was willing to die for it.Should we place this in the actual and modern context we could compare him to taliban and other zealots.Furhermore we must consider at the least two points:first that J.C.was a good psychologist who knew that most people really want to live in harmony with themselves and with others, for it makes life easier and that they tend to find a "cause" more important when big sacrifices are required from them (the nazis did not otherwise).Second is that the philosophy wich eventually could serve us in daily life, got completely obnubilated by by the modifications and the manipulations made by those who where really using this figure to gain power and wealth (let's not forget inquisition and the burning of thousands of jews and "sorcerers" in europe in the past centuries).
(But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith )
as per my understanding
it was just a challenge
the fire was prepared but it doesn't mean he would put them there are other characteristics of God could control a situation
in Arabic , it is said that God's mercy preceedes his punishment
So , your argument should be stated this way :
which God that prepare fires for someone
but he ceated them, he knows that he would be right
I don't know
but you know what if someone kills for example
what do we do to him..punish hime and let him become an straight one.
this was a response of the verse Mark placed from Quran I forgot where because high , sorry
Mercy without punishment/judgment is meaningless.
I don't understand your suggestion of what my argument "should be". What you said is not ever remotely related to what I wrote.
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