When did religion start ?

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   THE SOUR MANposted 14 years ago

   When did this whole religion thing really start ?
   Was it after that people started asking questions to their leaders ? Questions like : What is the origin of life ? What is the sun made of ? Why must YOU be the leader ?
   A true leader offcourse cannot admit he doesn't hold answers ,for this could undermine his position ;so these guys not only came up with answers but achieved the incredible stunt
   of connecting themselves with the gods they just invented .
   After that they where called priests .
   
   And so this story goes on since prehistoric times.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      "Shamanism or the art of ecstasy,
      The ultimate being one with the super entity"
      
      Man is looking for happiness in his life. The ultimate happiness is encountered when you go back to the source-the light.

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         apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         dont u know answer?
         poems

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            How does it make a difference if the answer is in poetry and being a poet that is how I work.

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               apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               nice poem then...

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                  earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  apeksha your sense of humor is almost Australian! Love it!

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                     apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     R u Australian...thanks..but Its my most favourite country...n wan go before I die..

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  just a couplet.Thank you.

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               apekshaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Then write some of ur poems in ur hubs..I would like 2 read those...Coz I can also love poems...n shayari..

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Have some hubs and they are poems ,have a look , hope you like them as well

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         Clairee-xposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I believe that religion started when a need for controling the masses was found .

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      1-
      
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      Do 1 & 2 have to come together , as 1 or 2 is by affected the other makes it give the meaning to deny gods or one God as we understands.

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         Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I meant is 1 or 2 a result for the other

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         THE SOUR MANposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I think the original message has been tampered with,but you clearly understand waht I mean.let's not take this discussion to a level where the simplicity of the questions and their possible answers could get lost.I've been raised by jesuits from my fifth till my thirteenth year,I think I know most of the tricks;-)

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            Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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               Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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                  Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Vedas" Who is to say when this universe began.No one really knows."

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         THE SOUR MANposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I was talking about religion,not the universe.

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Similar no one really knows.The first recorded prophet is considered to be Zarathustra- The Parsi Prophet but then you had the mystics from Asia ,America, Africa and South America before that, so no one can give a proper date.We do not know since when man has been inhabiting this world.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Of course we do.
               
               There is good evidence that Homo sapiens originated in East Africa around 200,000 years ago.
               
               I suspect they needed an answer to the unanswerable pretty soon afterwards, and the first "religion" or "art" we have found is the cave paintings in Chauvet, France depicting hunting "magic." These are thought to be 32,000 years old.

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                  mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Thanks for this information it was interesting especially the paintings in France.But can anyone really say for sure?
                  Indian mythology claims Manu as being the first human .

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Well, I guess you can only say "for sure" if you were there. The best we have is from the evidence we have been able to uncover so far.
                     
                     Certainly Hindu theology has a more realistic time measurement system than the BS christian creationist rubbish that people like Make Money spout.
                     
                     Not sure it is practical to attribute the whole of mankind to one single person in either mythology though. It is easy to forget we are animals when you claim some divine connection.

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                        mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        True we are animals, tiny insects on this planet in one aspect.
                        When the tsunami happened in south India all the animals ran up the mountains or hills, the elephants broke their chains and ran.It was the human who didn't , so I believe that animals are connected to the divine more than most human.They can sense you so easily while a human cannot.
                        
                        Its just that this earth has changed so much with time, Teutonic plates shifting and changing the face of the earth.The Himalayas happened this way with time .Then the poles are supposed to shift with time and create destruction so how do we know if there was human life before and could probably be buried so deep and haven't yet found it.
                        We both know make money talks out of ego.I gave him the benefit of the doubt earlier on but you were correct and I was wrong.

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      CHARFREUNDLIposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'M SURE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DID HAPPEN ALL THOSE EONS AGO IN ONE FORM OR ANOTHER -   NOBODY KNEW ANY ANSWERS TO MANKIND'S TROUBLING QUESTIONS, SO THEY MADE THEM UP AND THE MOST COURGEOUS OF THE LOT APPOINTED THEMSELVES THE NUMBER ONE AUTHORITY - HE ATTACHED A TITLE TO HIS NAME AND WALLA!
      
      HE BECAME THE HIGH PRIEST OR WHATEVER THE POSITION WAS CALLED AT THE TIME -
      
      YES - THAT COULD HAVE VERY WELL HAVE OCCURRED WAY BACK THEN -
      
      GOOD EXPLANATION....
      
      THANKS,
      
      CHARFREUNDLI (HIGH PRIEST OF ESOTERIC KNOWLEDGE)

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      may be
      
      after people population increases and familys or tribes had spreaded on the globe.
      
      some time has passed and Adam the first father and prophet religion changed untill another prophet is sent.
      
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      today

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         Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         God says:(Has not the Time arrived for the Believers that their hearts in all humility should engage in the remembrance of Allah and of the Truth which has been revealed (to them), and that they should not become like those to whom was given Revelation aforetime, but long ages passed over them   and their hearts grew hard? For many among them are rebellious transgressors. )
         
         
         REF
         
         YUSUFALI translations

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            THE SOUR MANposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Why can't I get an answer from YOU ? I've no need for quotations from books,they are on my shelf, I've read them,don't worry.

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               Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               so, make it a 2-3 lines question ? would you mr.book.loooom

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      Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      answering .. asking  ?

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      usmanali81posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The religion started from the time of Adam (peace be upon him), the first human being created by God.
      
      

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   GeneriqueMediaposted 14 years ago

   Ahh..when did it start? My favourite quote in regards to this...
   
   "When Neanderthal man walked out of his cave to see a sky of stars, he reached up to try and grab one to eat it. When he couldn't do so, he figured they belonged to someone else, and thus God was born."
   
   G|M

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      nice

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   Mark Knowlesposted 14 years ago

   Imagine a puddle waking up one morning and thinking, 'This is an interesting world I find myself in, an interesting hole I find myself in, fits me rather neatly, doesn't it? In fact it fits me staggeringly well, must have been made to have me in it!'
   
   This is such a powerful idea that as the sun rises in the sky and the air heats up and as, gradually, the puddle gets smaller and smaller, it's still frantically hanging on to the notion that everything's going to be alright, because this world was meant to have him in it, was built to have him in it; so the moment he disappears catches him rather by surprise.
   
   I think this may be something we need to be on the watch out for.
   
   Douglas Adams

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   GeneriqueMediaposted 14 years ago

   GREAT quote Mark!
   
   Douglas Adams is a demigod. Remember kids, don't panic.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      He is one of my favorite authors - dead now unfortunately. But at least he went out hoping (not praying) that this is all there is

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   gamergirlposted 14 years ago

   I have my towel right here.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And what have you soaked the corners in?
      
      Myself - Jack Daniels, runny fried eggs, coffee and glucose. You never know

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   Tom Cornettposted 14 years ago

   I think it may have started when the first guy thought,"Hey...I can make money with this!"

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   GeneriqueMediaposted 14 years ago

   I feel like dancing and singing...
   
   Soooo long, goooood bye, and thanks for all the fish! 

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   frogdroppingposted 14 years ago

   Douglas Adams - the sentient puddle, the number 42 and
   
   "Isn’t it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?".

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   Make Moneyposted 14 years ago

   When did religion start ?
   
   Roughly about 6,000 years ago when God created heaven and earth.

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      THE SOUR MANposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Was it about the same time that man created gods?

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      icewave5posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If religion started when god created the earth, what about the other religions? Is there only one god (i believe there is) but that is contradicting the other religions of hindu with mutiple gods. Anyway theres the theory of evoulution and life dates back millions of years.

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         Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         sorry

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    David Bowmanposted 14 years ago

    So true, so true. And then, a little while after that, the plate ran away with the spoon.

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       Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       so high low medium

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    DennisBarkerposted 14 years ago

    The Gods are in the sky.Seven levels of angesl being an ancient categorisation system for the brightness and colour of visible stars. The solar system planets are the gods who pop up in much of mythology, christianity begins by mentioning three wise men visiting from the east which has to be a conjunction of three planets or some other astronomical event which has been placed into an existing greek story.
    
    As soon as a child looks up at the sky there are Gods being created. The names may change but the characteristics remain the same.Add the natural forces of the earth to the Sun, Moon and stars and you pretty much have an explanation for every religion on the planet.
    
    Thats not a bad thing , or a good thing, its just a useful explanation and happens to be the one I believe.

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    icewave5posted 14 years ago

    Religion started back when apes, our ancestors (ironic isn't it), those apes started thinking about things and becoming curious, asking themselves questions, if they don't understand it they believe of some mystic force and from there is built on until somehow theres christianity and islam and whatever religion

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    aka-djposted 14 years ago

    I have noticed on several posts (including other threads) citing "controlling the masses" (and the like) as reasons/origins of religion. That may be true for religion, but Jesus, talking to His disciples said to "turn the other cheek, lay down your life for others, love your enemies, he that wants to be the greatest among you, let him be servant of all. . ."
    Doesn't sound like controlling words to me.

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       Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       they are nice words.
       no, really wise with being so nice

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          aka-djposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          I would use words a little stronger than "nice". Opening doors for ladies, standing up for an elder on a bus, they are nice. We need to have a lot more "backbone" in our convictions, to follow the teachings I referred to.
          Wish I could say I have it "down pat", sadly, I don't.

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       THE SOUR MANposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Jezus Christ in his time must be considered not only as a dissident from the jewish religion but also as an extreme purist who wanted his idea of a god to be pushed thrue to the extreme,he even was willing to die for it.Should we place this in the actual and modern context we could compare him to taliban and other zealots.Furhermore we must consider at the least two points:first that J.C.was a good psychologist who knew that most people really want to live in harmony with themselves and with others, for it makes life easier and that they tend to find a "cause" more important when big sacrifices are required from them (the nazis did not otherwise).Second is that the philosophy wich  eventually could serve us in daily life, got completely obnubilated by by the modifications and the manipulations made by those who where really using this figure to gain power and wealth (let's not forget inquisition and the burning of thousands of jews and "sorcerers" in europe in the past centuries).

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          Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          wish u l goody money boney

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       mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       The master serves.

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    Eng.Mposted 14 years ago

    (But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith )
    
    YUSUFALI translation
    
    Quran
    
    as per my understanding
    
    it was just a challenge
    
    the fire was prepared but it doesn't mean he would put them there are other characteristics of God could control a situation
    
    in Arabic , it is said that God's mercy preceedes his punishment
    
    So , your argument should be stated this way :
    which God that prepare fires for someone
    
    but he ceated them, he knows that he would be right
    I don't know
    
    
    but you know what if someone kills for example
    what do we do to him..punish hime and let him become an straight one.

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       Eng.Mposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       this was a response of the verse Mark placed from Quran I forgot where because high , sorry

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          mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          There is a dark side as such to god or the cosmos which we cannot deny.
          Hindu philosophy depicts this as Kali where the basis is sex and destruction.Then you have her fair and loving side ,that of motherly love.

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    aka-djposted 14 years ago

    Mercy without punishment/judgment is meaningless.
    I don't understand your suggestion of what my argument "should be". What you said is not ever remotely related to what I wrote.

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    Eng.Mposted 14 years ago

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