Let's have a polite discussion of religious beliefs

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tantrumposted 11 years ago
that's a mind ?? Well that was scary !!!! OMG !...if there's 1 !
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earnestshubposted 11 years ago
Why is anyone still bothering with this obnoxious, brain dead religious zealot?
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I agree earnest, if this guy is speaking for god I know I don't want to be a christian.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Even a fool knows where to find water.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  In that case you would be drowning!
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Ummmm 2 things:

1-I said before that I am a nobody and said that I know nothing outside of what I receive, so it's pure b.s. soldier, that you said I won't admit this or that...read my other postings before you run head first into an assumption. As a Marine you should know better!!!

What???...do I have to say it with every post soldier?

2- You assume that I was taught that there is THE MESSIAH.

You are now 2 for 2.
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol Does red mean you are angry?
  
  What exactly do you receive? Why do you need to receive anything? Lead yourself.
  
  The messiah was taught to you from someone or a book. If you say it wasn't, it's pure ignorance.
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tantrumposted 11 years ago
The truth is.... I'm really bored
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Only boring people get bored..
  
  party on the other thread..happy hour
  
  dont come emptyhanded !
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Is that your TRUTH ? How boring
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ouch! sorry was that too close to the bone
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
Jesus didnt condone violence and taught at all times we were to strive to get along with people.

So quiet I do not see how you can justify your attitudes? in fact theres 'quiet' is not the sound I hear coming from your personality.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Matthew Chapter 11
  
  12 And from the days of John the Baptist until the present time, the kingdom of heaven has endured violent assault, and violent men seize it by force as a precious prize--a share in the heavenly kingdom is sought with most ardent zeal and intense exertion.
  
  Just one example...it does not mean just be violent physically.
  
  Another example of the reason why HE came.
  
  Matthew 10:33-35
  
  33But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven.
  
  34Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.
  
  35For I have come to part asunder a man from his father, and a daughter from her mother, and a newly married wife from her mother-in-law.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Those instructions were for Jesus ! not you or I
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  love one another ( thats everyone) as I have loved you ( Gods word)
  
  Love ,faith ,hope and the GREATEST of those is LOVE
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And just how is that? Please explain and expound on this.
  
  Was He talking to Himself?
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  33But whoever denies and disowns Me before men, I also will deny and disown him before My Father Who is in heaven.
  
  34Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword
  
  Jesus is saying what HE will do...
  
  Jesus says I ( NOT ) this is your task...
  
  No he said...Strive for peace, be humble, gentle...
  
  let your words be as a soothing balm oh theres much more..but basically he urged his followers to be lovers not fighters!!
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You do not understand the original language here. To bring a sword between relatives for HIS names sake is a very violent thing. We are swords in HIS hands at times. Again, read how the Apostle Paul esp. spoke at times.
  
  And to not deny HIM before men is again a very violent thing, it goes against all that we are inside and it takes courage to confess HIM.
  
  You said HE did not condone violence and that is true, physical violence.
  I am not talking about physical violence, nor do I do that.
  
  When I am challenged, I rise to the challenge and take it by force, not physical force, by words, casting down all thoughts that exalt themselves against GOD.
  
  A sword brings a cutting BEFORE it brings a healing. Just like surgery.
  
  Shalom
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Jesus is the Surgeon , not us
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JonTutorposted 11 years ago
@Quietnessandtrust You're scaring people.... nobody's gonna like christianity with your interpretation.... Dude show some "christian" love. ... how about...

"love thy neighbour as thyself".
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I quoted THE MESSIAH and everything HE said was said because HE is love and was meant and communicated by that LOVE.
  
  It does not mean it does not offend people, even HIS own students were offended by HIS teachings. Love speaks THE TRUTH, that is what it does.
  
  THE TRUTH can be and often is very, very, very painful, but facing is and embracing it is less painful than ignoring it.
  
  I am often misunderstood and am use to it.
  
  I speak the truth "because" of love and a willingness to tell it like it is without reservation.
  
  I do not do the political correctness plastic Pollyanna parrot speak.
  
  THE TRUTH will set you free if you embrace it and obey it all.
  
  Shalom
  
  I think this man said it best and he does not even talk like me.
  
  "Bibowen
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  There is too much preoccupation with method. The most important thing is what is being said, not how it is delivered. If you have to be softened, coddled, soothed every time you hear something, you are not going to know much that is worth knowing. In fact, your world is going to be a small one.
  
  So if he uses bold print? It's his quarter to spend. In the Old Testament, God told the prophets to preach to the people of judgment to come. They were as offensive as this guy. And how did people respond? About the same as on here. They stopped their ears; they didn't want to hear it. It wasn't sophisticated. They were stoned, beaten and sawed in two for proclaiming an unpopular message to people who had to be verbally stroked before they could listen.
  
  Wipe your feelings off your sleeves. If you oppose people's views, expect to be hit back. If you don't want to be hit, go bake cookies and then send us all some. I work hard (overtime) never to take the comments personally.
  
  Yes, that was a lecture, but I told you it was before I started..."
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  JonTutorposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I'm not really getting it.... Do ya think your getting anybody to see your POV..... Dude I'm 20 but I still get it when somebody mocks me.... Having a "message" is one thing.... being qualified to be a "messenger" is another thing.... gotta learn.... art of presentation and persuasion...... May I suggest.... read Dale Carnegie.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  To him that has ears to hear...let him hear...the message of THE TRUTH does NOT change in order for all to hear it.
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  JonTutorposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Do you have the credibility?.... if not.... your version of "Truth".... nobody's gonna believe.
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
And to think I used to wonder why they threw the christians to the lions. LOL
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ive met some zealots for real and wow, aggressive and scary..nothing like I know Gods mercy and compassion to be.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Now they just throw them into the Religious Forum
  
  Besides Id rather eat chinese
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I suppose us agnostics and atheists are filling in for the lions now. Plenty to eat though.
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah, you're a real funny guy...
  
  Yes, they would toss them and their children to the lions. I suppose the crunching and snapping of their bones while the lions descend on them has a certain appeal to the atheist mind.
  
  Then there's Blandina, a slave girl, that was tortured for her faith until even her torturers were exhausted. Her response back to their inquisitions was "I am a Christian; among us no evil is done." In the end, she was allowed to watch her other compatriots tortured. Then they took her, scourged her, tied her to a red-hot grate. In the end, she did not die and so she was thrust through with a dagger.
  
  And there are the Christians and their children that would be placed in sacks with scorpions and tossed into the water to drown.
  
  The pagan Romans had a lot of great ideas for murderous atheists. Get Foxe's Book of Martyrs and check them out.
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol do you not see? This is where your arguements come from.
  
  You bring up things "atheist's" have done in the past, now an athiest will bring up something a "christian" has done in the past. Both are childish generalizations. This is why individuals should individualize rather than group belief.
  
  This is why you both go in circles.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  This is true and is why I think it is funny for fanatics to take the high road. Many people, including children have been horribly treated because of the parents inability to let others believe what they will. The children suffer because the parents aren't satisfied with choosing what to believe themselves, they won't rest until others agree with them to the point of aggravating others to the point of exasperation.
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Excellent enlightened comment. Thanks for adding that.
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  If you really believe what you said above, you don't get out much. For you to single out devout religious homes in the way you have is nothing but religious bigotry.
  
  I have been around Christian children for years. For the most part they don't look or act oppressed. They grow up, get married, have children, enjoy life. I have seen some that think that their parent's faith is like a prison to them and they can't wait until they get out of the house. Perhaps, the way you describe it is how it happened to you. Well, not everyone is like you.
  
  But that sense of being "in prison" is not unique to religious homes. I have seen children in nonreligious homes scream and curse at their parents for keeping them "in prison." Parents who, by the way, were not even that strict. Adolescent rebellion of parental authority is no respecter of religious persuasion.
  
  You only allow as optional things that you don't think are important. I believe their souls are at stake, so, no, I don't treat it as optional while they are children. Of course, when they are older, they can choose.
  
  I suppose you would let a child choose to be a fascist or a racist. Those things are not criminal. Would you deny letting your child wear an SS uniform or the garb of a Grand Imperial Wizard? Attend a neo-Nazi rally where they are going to stand on the street corner, mock Jews as they are attending synagogue? If you are a good parent you would not let him do those things. The point of parenting is to train them in the right direction and then let them go.
  
  I don't know if you are a parent or not, but if you are, I should not have to tell you those things....
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kmackey32posted 11 years ago
Polite? HAHA now that is funny...
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Amazingly enough it actually was for awhile. Then "the truth" showed up...........
  
  The truth is so important to hear that it must be ranted and raved. Pitiful bastard
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The "truth" took one of the best religious threads we have and filled it with hate.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ..and then ended it with Shalom..(rolls my eyes)
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm actually very happy with the results. Some of the most opinionated hubbers exchanged viewpoints respectfully and openly without the usual fisticuffs. One loud-mouthed ignoramus, pissed off at the world cause he can't get laid does not offset the good things we experienced here.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Im tryin to be good...but I swear if the neighbor dont turn down bruce springsteen ,im gonna preach to him about being reborn in the usa at the top of my lungs at 7am j/k hes really a nice guy , just LOUD
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I can stand the ranting and raving (Messiah complex?) but the boring sermons and scripture are too much.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Interesting that your profile is that of a snake becaue MESSIAH came and CRUSHED the head of the serpent.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Ya probably took a wrong turn maybe then Randy lol
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Again...I said "The Serpent"...not "a" serpent (physical).
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Your not gettin it..... the whole bloody site is sick to death of you. Your a bigot and a Zealot
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  THE TRUTH stands alone, far above your understanding. GOD is not mocked, a fool can say is not real, it changes nothing.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Not above my understanding, more like beneath my dignity just do us all a favor and bugger off. You have insulted and annoyed every person you have replied to, even when they are believers.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, here is one who said this, maybe you missed it???
  
  Bibowen
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  There is too much preoccupation with method. The most important thing is what is being said, not how it is delivered. If you have to be softened, coddled, soothed every time you hear something, you are not going to know much that is worth knowing. In fact, your world is going to be a small one.
  
  So if he uses bold print? It's his quarter to spend. In the Old Testament, God told the prophets to preach to the people of judgment to come. They were as offensive as this guy. And how did people respond? About the same as on here. They stopped their ears; they didn't want to hear it. It wasn't sophisticated. They were stoned, beaten and sawed in two for proclaiming an unpopular message to people who had to be verbally stroked before they could listen.
  
  Wipe your feelings off your sleeves. If you oppose people's views, expect to be hit back. If you don't want to be hit, go bake cookies and then send us all some. I work hard (overtime) never to take the comments personally.
  
  Yes, that was a lecture, but I told you it was before I started....
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  when you've got nothing, I guess anything will do, even if you don't understand it
  
  "They were as offensive as this guy. And how did people respond? About the same as on here. They stopped their ears; they didn't want to hear it. It wasn't sophisticated. They were stoned, beaten and sawed in two for proclaiming an unpopular message to people who had to be verbally stroked before they could listen."
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Don't worry about this kook earnest, I'm laughing my crushed serpent head off at him. I think he's just pretending to be this obnoxious. Either that or needs serious help.
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  This guy really knows how to push your buttons...
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Indianapolis, it was you that had the idea about the polite discussion on religious beliefs.....how's it goin?
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
Gods word is symbolic for the sword

Since Jesus came to supersede the laws of the Old Testament.

So ALL authority came via the word ,and not through prophets any longer.

Since the word can be considered for instruction ,healing and edification , Jesus also taught it was to be used primarily for teaching of Gods Love.

(If I be lifted up, I will draw all men unto me)

He said , If I have the gift of prohecy and not love my brother ,I am just an empty vessel...more

He ends by saying ..If you have all these talents and still not love your brother , you have not love , therefore not from God.

That is my reaction to your preaching , words, without love.

Thats is how I want to lift Jesus up , listen to people, respect people ,dont judge , love them.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Behold the kindness and the severity of GOD.

HE is not one way or the other, HE is both and so am I.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No, you are irrelevant.
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  Colebabieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sir, you really just don't make any sense. It is way more than you being "misunderstood."
  You are not "kind".
  
  Gohome.
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
You are so heavenly minded
You are of no earthly good

quote came to mind I read somewhere.
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
Thank God Im not eating an apple
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Colebabieposted 11 years ago
I enjoyed your forum very much Ron. I'm sorry it ended up this way
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  It lasted much longer than I anticipated. Thanks for participating.
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  Colebabieposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  True. You're welcome
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
Aww its over because ...
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Interesting that I came here for the first time about 30 hours ago and your forum has grown by 18 pages.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Thats because you filled them with crud. To find where this hub was, you would need to go back to page14. The rest has been abusive, arrogant abuse from you.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Of course, crud, not truth, is his forte. Anyway, there have been crud posters a lot more intelligent than he.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years ago
A VIRUS INFECTED A FORUM
IT WAS CHIDED FOR LACK OF DECORUM
IT'S POSTINGS WERE ODD
MINDLESS RANTINGS FROM GOD?
IN THE END WE SIMPLY INGNORED IM
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  You should get a job at Hallmark.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  What? You haven't seen Ron's Happy Hallmark cupcakes? He's making a fortune on them.
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  sandra rinckposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I am getting sick of cupcakes, I decided to bring the donuts
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Is that butter in the middle of that one donut? What a fat pill....
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, I think it's Parkay.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LOL ROFLOL....great line
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  A BIT LATE TO SUCK UP NOW
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  And exactly how is me laughing at Bidbowen's comment sucking up to the guy who wrote the one about the virus?
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  My mistake, I got so used to your abuse, I assumed this was more of the same. Your fault I fear!
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hummmm...yeah, one needs be very careful before one replies, that is yet another time I have seen you do this "mis-reading of a quote" and making a comment that is incorrect. A little anxious are we?
  
  Speaking of quotes...you right here just said "my mistake" and then in the same moment you say it's "your fault" (meaning mine)....
  
  A contradiction in the English language.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yeh whatever, picking up gnats and ignoring the elephant!
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Why yes, one can do that when one has his elephant trained with voice command. In fact, one can teach ones elephant to pick up said gnats for him while one sips ones coffee.
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  sandra rinckposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sounds like you don't understand what you read very well. Might want to read your bible again. You might learn something new.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Ignoring THE TRUTH does not make it go away anymore than ignoring a wet diaper makes it go away. You have to change it.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
No matter "how use" you are to a weapon being unloaded, you must check it first before you use it.

"I got so use to....".....is the reason/excuse you gave for your last blunder.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
It would appear that your spell checker is broken as well.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Now that is petty, we don't do the "you made an error" na na na rain dance around here.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
I have found that when an "atheist" or an "agnostic" or an "unbeliever" is losing an argument, they always resort to the "your rude" excsuce.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Back to screaming at people again eh? See your typo?
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  candice5posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Is this Usmanali???????????
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  No candice this guy has been here a while, has written hubs as well. He is out of the same mold, different religion
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  candice5posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I( am not so sure Usman wasn't a Muslim, he got too many things wrong, I just read this and it was pure usmanali to me anmyway. I have had a couple of Tiquilas so maybe the usmanali factor feeling of it is him, may be gone by the morrow. I m goin to look over his Hubs.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Your fine candice, no he has written a few hubs and been here 3 months. His hubs and profile are really weird and full of fundamentalist statements, so he is well within character
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  candice5posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  We have just taken a look at the Front page Jugment by 3 others sitting in here "A Worry" We have a guy that drives around in this locality with words the end is near on his van, all grotty and dribbled paint, he looks like this guy, has the most atrocious driving. He is a religious fan atic, but I often wonder if the words are away of staying Keep Clear. Are you allowed to smile on the Religious Forums, all seems GLUM!
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I'm pretty sure smiling is OK
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  candice5posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Phew wasn't sure if it was a sin or not. Although apparently did you know that now we are under Grace there is a possibility we might be able to break the odd commandment. I don't actually understand this one.
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  earnestshubposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  There is not a lot to understand other than the guy is a real fundamentalist who seems to want to heap hate on everyone. I know I should leave him alone, he will never change, but I just do not tolerate haters very well. Does that make me one? Or am I just a hater of hate?
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  candice5posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh you are definitely the latter, I just had to look at these as people all say that they are frightening to go to, But is it me or are they all just basically the same.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nope
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nope
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yes I see the typo in the word "excuse" and I thank you for pointing it out to me. I will pay closer attention.
  
  I make no excuse for missing it.
  
  Bold is not screaming...I have been that CAPS IS SCREAMING, and bold CAPS is even louder!!!
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earnestshubposted 11 years ago
Spot on observation Yes I find them all pretty much the same. They come on screaming that they are the one who is gonna gobble up everyone and start off aggressive. When you take the argument up to them a few times, they back down eventually and disappear.
I studied religions for many years, so no good comes to them from lying to me about it and making opinion fact. The funny thing is they all attack others, then when they get a bit back they seem to genuinely not understand why!
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Eaglekiwiposted 11 years ago
Yea it works best if you use the same weapon he uses ,only use ammo in yours

I seriously think he thinks hes like a prophet or was sent here to be like John the Baptist or a God warrior....heaven help us
from those deluded wackos!

But God is still on the throne
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  This is the problem with "divine intervention". Some think they are chosen/favored over another for having a different belief.
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yep although Ive seen arrogance from all kinds of people ,it respects no race ,creed or religion...welcome to humanity huh
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I think humanity will begin when the majority of us begin to act like humans instead of animals.
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
"Beware of false prophets" or those who think they are prophets. These are common down here in the bible belt. They take names like-Prophet William,Prophet Mary etc. My wife's uncle and aunt own their own church and call themselves prophet and apostle so and so. As far as I know, none of these "prophets have ever predicted anything which has ever come true. Well, perhaps the amount of money they foretold they would make off of the "believers" may be correct. P.T. Barnum was right.
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  sandra rinckposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  ZOMG, Randy, do you ever sleep? You are the first poster I see everday!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Yea I guess the downside of "freedom of speech" sigh.
  
  The only place they are allowed (or welcomed) to do that is in the town squares on set days ,usually lunchtimes.
  Theres a wizard and a preacher amd both draw lunchtime crowds.
  They can get very assertive , but so far no over the top aggression..although sometimes the odd spectator or passer bye gets verbally hyper
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  marinealways24posted 11 years agoin reply to this
  lol Are you from South Carolina? I feel like I am dead center of the bible belt.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, south Georgia, home of snake handlers, tongue talkers and even nuttier fundamentalists than post here, believe it or not. Home to all kinds of holy rollers who think their belief is the one true religion. Most inherited from their parents.
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I would love to see a snake handlers service. I saw a documentary on them once that was truly shocking. They come close to making THE TRUTH seem thoughtful by comparison.............close
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They still take place in very rural areas but are kept quiet for the most part. Occasionally someone dies from being bitten but this can be covered up sometimes. Often the snakes are milked before a service or the fangs (a rattler has several sets) are pulled to help God along with his faithful. MY dad talked about how a traveling revival preacher was going to walk on water to show his faith at one of these back country meetings. The board he had secreted just below the surface of the water was removed shortly before his "exhibition of his faith in god." Needless to say, he made a big "splash."
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marinealways24posted 11 years ago
Where did everyone go?
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
To bibowen, did you inherit your religious beliefs from your parents or did you examine all religions before making up your mind about Christianity?
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Great try, although predictable. First, no one could ever investigate all religions; your life isn't long enough. Second, attempting some sort of exhaustive investigation of religions only makes sense if you are not satisfied with the one that you have. As for me, I believe that God exists and has decisively revealed Himself in Jesus. I don't just believe "in it"; I believe it's true. When Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, and the life," I believe Him. Those that say differently confront the reality that "let God be true, but every man a liar." That applies to me as well as everyone else.
  
  Those that are not convinced of the truth of Christianity, that's of no effect to me. Because you are not convinced, why should I dismiss my experiences as veridical? What the Bible says comports with my experience: what it says about the created order, what it says about man, and the general wisdom it conveys. I am rational to accept my experiences as a Christian as true, bar any defeater of those experiences.
  
  Those that say that "you can't know" or "I don't know" sound like the sad voices on hubpages who say you can't be successful at it because they have not been. Many of you that are reading this have had success at hubpages and you know that such complaints reflect their lack of knowledge.
  
  If you wanted to improve your hub page score, who would you listen to: those that don't know (or say that you can't know) or those that say that success is possible?
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I did notice you avoided my first question. I'm sure it was just an oversight on your part or perhaps you think you just got lucky in inheriting the right beliefs while other who inherited the wrong ones will go to hell. LOL
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  Spaghetti Monsterposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Verily - this one speaks the TRUTH. Merely because you have not been touched by My Noodly Appendage, that does not mean others have not. Thus - you should believe them.
  
  Many would say that this argument is self-serving, meaningless, and an attempt to distract from the real discussion, but this is not the case. This poor mis-guided soul has unfortunately chosen the wrong Deity, which does not exist.
  
  This very night - one of you will be Chosen and Touched. This one will be my spokesperson to destroy the Evil, Political Religions claiming the earth. No more will the faithful be maimed, murdered and maligned in the name of another, weak, invisible God.
  
  Let there be Pasta.
  
  Ramen.
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Spaghetti Monster--I remember atheists saying that you didn't exist but I never doubted. I'll bet you even fly.
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  Spaghetti Monsterposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  LIAR !
  
  FOOL !
  
  I see through your lies, deception and adherence to the jewish political god. No more materialism, money counting. I say NO!
  
  YOU ARE NOT WORTHY - FOOL.
  
  This night I will Touch the helmet of this one:
  
  And He will be the Anointed One, to bring peace to the religions - coming as he does, after the imitators.
  
  Heed My Words, FOOL.
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  Bibowenposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh, he's jewish, is he? Is that a problem?
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  One fool anointing another brings about 2 fools.
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Ron Montgomeryposted 11 years ago
Hmmm...I'm confused.

According to the perfect word of God, which is to be taken quite literally of course:

"And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

You mean sometimes this doesn't play out?
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Occasionally, true faith is tempered with common sense. But not very often down here it seems.
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
The speakers in tongues make sounds like yabba dabba do, over and over again. It's amazing how the preacher can interpret these few words into a full account of religious meaning.
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Mishaposted 11 years ago
Wow! Isn't this THE PROOF of THE TRUTH!

*Bowing in a hope of being touched by her noodly appendage again*

Ramen
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RooBeeposted 11 years ago
Be quiet and trust in me. Shhhhhhhh, lie down now little sheep. Don't say anything, certainly don't question almighty capitalization, and trust that my ranting is the only way of believing in this vast world.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Long before Jack said it...“you can't handle the truth!!!”
GOD said it even better “only the FOOL says in his heart, 'there is no GOD'”
This is just one of many TRUTH'S that come from the source of all TRUTH.
And that IS...THE TRUTH.

NOTHING you can say will EVER change THE TRUTH.

Religion does not contain “all truth”...THE TRUTH stands alone and far above everything men can understand in his finite mind.

Again, not an opinion, not a religion and not something to be grasped.

THE TRUTH is ALL-Knowing and we are NOT.
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Yep, plenty of false prophets running around the country today and when I see one or hear one, I expose them openly, not afraid to do it either.

Yep, plenty of people in some circles pretending to "do the works of Jesus in HIS name"...and they know HIM not and are in for a rude awakening.

Yep, plenty of fools going around in some parts handling snakes like a circus show, nothing new here, presumptuousness can be found in many circles.

Yep, lots of folks proclaim and do a lot of things in religious circles, nothing new there either.

THE TRUTH condones none of these things that ignorant, assuming, small minded people do, none of it!!!

THE TRUTH does not need "help" from men who pretend they know HIM and do all manner of foolishness in HIS name, like a side show act and deceiving many in the country and around the world.

If one knows THE TRUTH, HIS discernment is given to him and he cannot be tricked by a lie because he can see into the hearts of men.

There are plenty of lies in religion and I often call them on it and point out to them the errors they sell.

I am not a respecter of any mans person, I tell them the truth no matter what, and that without fear of they're faces.

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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  What about you TRUTHMEISTER, did ypu inherit your religion too? Really, how did you come to these conclusions? And another question, weren't you the mutant on the movie TOTAL RECALL? You know, the one with the extra creature growing out of his stomach, and which of those heads are you using to think with? LOL
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  THE MIND OF MESSIAH is NOT a religion
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Many have "attempted" to "put a label" on this no body.

No body wares a label.

Not Christian.

Not Religious.

Not Fundamentalist.

Not Liberal.

Not Conservative.

Not Zelot.

Simply put...If it is THE TRUTH...I believe what is said.
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RooBeeposted 11 years ago
I was touched by the great noodly appendage and was accepted, forgiven, and given a nifty souvenir to take home. You will know us by the macaroni necklaces we bear...
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Mockery, rebellion, scorn, pride and haughtiness.
  
  Will get you a large serving of FEAR.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  
  How are you going to do that ?? Are you david copperfield ?
  
  I have never seen a serving of fear.. How does it taste ?
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  Spaghetti Monsterposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  SHUT UP FOOL !
  
  I eat US NAVY SEALS FOR BREAKFAST.
  
  They are tasty, but stupid, and go well with pasta. As does everything.
  
  Ramen - Moron. Grovel if you know what is good for you.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So messing around in disguise, ha ? !
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  HE is my DEFENSE, I shall NOT be moved !!!
  
  THE TRUTH is THE ONLY ONE who can tell me to shut up.
  
  I fear ONLY GOD and NOT any man.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yes, you say you eat things that are "tasty and stupid"...you must be full after eating so much of it.
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  RooBeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Have you not (through your lengthy and numerous posts) mocked, scorned, and acted prideful & haughty in your condemnation of everyone who isn't you? Fear is not very good w/ marinara and so I say 'no thank you' on the bowl of fear you offer. I shall make pasta references and blasphemous jokes till Jesus tells me to cut it out.
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tantrumposted 11 years ago
I am not a respecter of any mans person, I tell them the truth no matter what, and that without fear of they're faces. smile

If you don't respect Men, you don't respect life!... And where's this spaguetti god? I'd love 2 meet him
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  RooBeeposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  *pokes tantrum in the rib* Psst, I think the Holy Spaghetti is a she (a' la' Alanis Morrisette in Dogma) just FYI.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  So It's a goddess! I hope she doesn't look like the african models fiery was complaining of !
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The meaning of "respecter of persons" is respect for the status they are in.
  
  GOD does not respect your status, your position or place in life.
  
  HE judges all the same.
  
  This is the meaning.
  
  To be impartial.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Then wehere's your impartiality ? I don't see it anywhere
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  GOD does not respect your status, your position or place in life.
  
  Neither do I.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  How disrespectful !
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quietnessandtrustposted 11 years ago
Bibowen

STAND STRONG !!! as you are

Cast down every haughty thought that exalts itself against the mind of GOD.
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Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago
What about it Bibowen and q&t, how did you guys choose your religion? Both of you ignored my question so I guess you don't care to TELL THE TRUTH about your acquisition of your faith. Did you just happen up on the correct beliefs of were you drilled into your beliefs by others of like mind. What about those who inherited the wrong religion from their parents, are thy going to hell because they happen to be born into the wrong faith?
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  They are not going to reply, they never do
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Sure they will, because they respect the TRUTH. Otherwise, they are full of crap.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I am answering many questions in many forums, along with emails, phones etc...so do not be dismayed...while you are mocking.
  
  I did NOT choose a religion, nor did one choose me.
  
  THE TRUTH chose me and HE is NOT a religion.
  
  HE IS THE TRUTH and stands above all "religions"
  
  I happened upon nothing, THE TRUTH came to me.
  
  THE TRUTH set me free!!!
  
  Your mockery will get you no more answers.
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  I do not expect you to answer because you you will have to tell the TRUTH. You like talking about the TRUTH but fanatics such as yourself cannot lower themselves to actually use it. So practice what you preach, false prophet. Or just continue to be seen as a sad little man who just spouts religious nonsense. You are obviously SCARED.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  As I said, I am in several forums and doing many other things on the computer. So please do not get your panties all in a bunch if you do not get a reply in 8 seconds, just change you diaper and have another bottle feeding.
  
  SCARED???.....no need to even reply to that son.
  
  I gave you an answer.
  
  I am answering many questions in many forums, along with emails, phones etc...so do not be dismayed...while you are mocking.
  
  I did NOT choose a religion, nor did one choose me.
  
  THE TRUTH chose me and HE is NOT a religion.
  
  HE IS THE TRUTH and stands above all "religions"
  
  I happened upon nothing, THE TRUTH came to me.
  
  THE TRUTH set me free!!!
  
  Your mockery will get you no more answers.
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tantrumposted 11 years ago
Thet don't respect anything, not even themselves. If they did they wouldn't be posting such crap
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Where have all of these idiotic, self appointed prophets come from lately. A few weeks ago enderwiggins appeared with boastful predictions about how he was going to clean the floor with the agnostics and atheists and where is he now? If you can get these guys to actually use logic and reasoning without using the Bible as a crutch they seem to disappear. Pathetic really.
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Agree! I think is very funny ,people being so childish... maybe that's why they are the children of the lord
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  THE TRUTH does NOT answer to you.
  
  You answer to THE TRUTH
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  quietnessandtrustposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  The meaning of "respecter of persons" is respect for the status they are in.
  
  GOD does not respect your status, your position or place in life.
  
  HE judges all the same.
  
  This is the meaning.
  
  To be impartial.
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tantrumposted 11 years ago
randy goodwin, c what i mean ?
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  Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  Hilarious, and these are the chosen ones? If there was a god I would hope he had more sense than to let this guy represent him. Can you imagine spending eternity listening to the words coming out of this guy's cake hole?
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  tantrumposted 11 years agoin reply to this
  
  that would be hell !
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  GOD does not "make sense" to any man...HE does not answer to them, nor have need to explain HIS ways to you.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You must think you're god then because-YOU do not "make sense" to any man...YOU do not answer to them, nor have need to explain YOUR ways to me.
  
  Ever wonder what God looks like folks? Not how you had him pictured I bet.
  Which of you is god, the dog or the guy with the beanie?
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tantrumposted 11 years ago
Let's have a polite discussion of religious beliefsposted by Ron Montgomery in Religion 666 tantrum 11 seconds ago

Speaking of the devil
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
Yet more mockery
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  What do you expect, respect? You are too busy to answer my question of how you obtained your belief you say. Bull cookies! Tell me big mouth and I don't care if you use CAPITAL LETTERS, or different colored lettering, or whatever you need to help you out. Because if you can't answer simple questions like this you have no business representing your god on here.
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
A JUDGE does not explain HIMSELF to the courtroom
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
The head of the serpent has been crushed, that needs no explaining.
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  tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I hope it's not yours Randy ! :LOL:
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, his god seems to be ineffective, my head is fine. He has backed himself in a corner and doesn't know how to get out. Now he thinks he is a judge, LOL. He is afraid to answer anyone's challenge to his beliefs and knows he looks foolish. These types are all the same, they give Christianity a bad name with the holier than thou attitude. Look for more imbecilic ranting or excuses for not answering the questions. He has no answers.
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  tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Good it isn't you! And I didn't know there was only one serpent.. Wow! Is it extinction?
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I deal with snakes all the time, they aren't near as dangerous as this guy. Nor as slimey.HA!
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  tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  only dangerous 4 himself ! LOL
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  There are no corners where I am.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  No guts either!
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
I did not "obtain" my belief. Like one obtains a dozen dough nuts.

THE TRUTH stands above any belief man can obtain.

THE TRUTH obtained and apprehended me.

Not the other way around.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Nope, not good enough, you are going to have to be more specific than that. If you are too scared to give a real answer then just go away. What are you afraid of?
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  THE TRUTH is never "good enough" for mockers and the insincere among men and women.
  
  I was apprehended by THE TRUTH and my KING, I did not "obtain" HIM
  
  No man did anything for this to happen.
  
  Not done in a school, seminary or through books.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Well, loudnessandmistrust, you run your mouth but that's all you do. Why are you here, it certainly isn't to promote TRUTH as you are afraid of the TRUTH. Be a man instead of a mouth. Do you actually expect anyone to respect you if you can't answer a simple question. If you have a purpose here on these forums let's hear it. Please put it in words we mortals can understand if you have the ability. You talk the talk, let's see if you can walk the walk.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I answered your question 3 times.
  What part of the answer did you not believe???
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  sandra rinckposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  So if you didn't have to do anything, why are you suggesting that other have to?
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  THE PERSON who is ALL TRUTH came to me, I did not do anything except ask for THE TRUTH.
  
  I was apprehended by THE TRUTH and my KING, I did not "obtain" HIM
  
  No man did anything for this to happen.
  
  Not done in a school, seminary or through books.
  
  I did not create anything or make anything happen, nor did I try.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You just said above that you believe in forced belief through physical punishment. How do we know your belief wasn't forced through fear or punishment?
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marinealways24posted 10 years ago
Circles.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  ~*~*~*Things are repeated until the lesson is learned.
  
  ^~^~^~Just like when you were in basic soldier.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  lol Maybe you should focus on learning rather than teaching. It would be wise of you.
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  tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  
  I think he didn't repeat the lesson enough, that's why he's mistaken LOL
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BrianFanslauposted 10 years ago
PWND i posted 700th! Woot I just created a hub that may interest you WHY THIS TOPIC WILL NEVER BE SOLVED.....
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
Eventually after one hears something enough times and still refuses to believe, they find themselves running laps and doing push ups while they think about it all.
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  sandra rinckposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Is this where you currently are? If you need help understanding, I am all ears.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Any thinking "individual" and or Marine would know that it was a metaphor.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Bok, bok, bok, bok-ock!
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  More insights from the thoughtful atheist...
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  More childish generalizations.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Well, welcome back Bibowen. You disappeared after I asked if you inherited your religion or chose it after seeing what others had to offer. Care to answer now?
  
  And it's real Christian of you to take up for the TRUTH dude but then again, I'm not surprised as you both have some of the same ideas.
  
  "Forget about critiquing style. It is irrelevant."
  
  I disagree. Really Boss Bibowen? We should let you decide if it is relevant. The guy ranted and raved without saying anything but only he had any knowledge of the TRUTH.
  
  A person's mental state is always relevant to style and the way the message is delivered. Even if the person is completely sane his "style" may give a different impression.
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I don't think that I should "decide" what is relavant and what is not. I put forth a claim that is subject to be challenged (which you did). That is what I would expect in this forum.
  
  He was proclaiming what he thought is true. Whether people accept that or not is irrelevant; what is important is whether or not the claims he makes are true or not.
  
  I completely agree with your last statement that "Even if the person is completely sane his 'style' may give a different impression." I agree that "style" can give a wrong impression. But my point is that it is irrelevant as to whether the claim in question is true or not. And I thought that is what we are discussing: whether or not the claims about God's existence are true or not.
  
  It is for the same reason that I did not bother with your previous question. How one acquires knowledge about religion is not relevant to the claims made by that religion. My observation in forums like this is that it doesn't lead to a discussion of the vital issues.
  
  For example, several years ago a psychologist, Paul Vitz, wrote an article (and I think it became book also) called "The Psychology of Atheism" in which the author claimed that one of the reason people were atheists is because they had a poor relationship with their father. "Atheists hate God because they hate their father," so the observation went.
  
  This observation may be generally right. But, I don't really care about that. I don't care how atheists came to believe what they believe. The primary thing is whether or not atheist's claims are true or not.
  
  A claim that is true is true whether it is handed to you on a silver platter (chocolates included!) or whether it is shouted in your face. No one likes the latter, but those that are seeking the truth will learn to "get over it" and stay focused on the pursuit of what is true and right.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  What is true and right?
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  THE ONE WHO IS ALL TRUTH AND ALL RIGHT
  
  May you seek HIM if you really want to know.
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  In one of my earlier post, I gave one reason why I don't bother with the kind of question you raise above(normally) and that is I don't think it's relevant to the claims being made. I have a couple more comments on this.
  
  To focus on the origin of the belief instead of its truthfulness is to commit a fallacy of inference. Simply put, you infer because you know something about the origin of a person's religion, therefore you know something about the truth claims of that religion. Probably the reason that I believe the heliocentric theory as opposed to Ptolemy's geocentric theory is because I was born in the scientific west in the 20th century. Someone can approach me and say "the only reason you believe the heliocentric theory is because you were born in the modern west but had you been born in some animistic culture 1000 years ago, you would not believe that..." My response to this is....So?
  
  The point about the heliocentric theory is that it does not advance the discussion to talk about how I acquired the heliocentric view.
  
  Even if we were interested in discussing the origin of a person's belief (and I'm not) a second point is that you can find a mixture when it comes to the reasons why people embrace Christianity or not. Of the following, it doesn't seem that one is dominant over the other:
  
  1. A person grew up Christian and accepted it
  2. A person did not grow up Christian and is still not Christian
  3. A person did grow up Christian, but rejected it
  4. A person did not grow up Christian, but now accepts it.
  
  My observation is that you find a mix of these and that there is not one that is more dominant than the others. I know plenty of all the four above.
  
  But I'm still back to the main point: let's say you give near-irrefutable evidence to support your thesis that a person accepted his religion because....(and you fill in the blank)." It still would not come close to refuting the belief he holds.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Of all the questions asked of a Christian by myself, this is the one which most are afraid to answer. Why, because they know most people follow the religion of their parents. Not all, but this is what they are exposed to.
  
  You say you don't bother with this type of question so this also tells me something about your views. It would be a simple matter to say "well, my parents went to church and took me there" or "I stumbled upon Christianity and felt called to become a better person" or "I was Jewish and read the New Testament." See, not hard at all.
  
  Take a look at how many words you typed to keep from answering a simple question. You are merely stalling.
  
  But that's okay, we both know the reason and I guess I don't blame you for refusing to answer except for non-answers. I guess no one has, to bother answering any of your queries either but we probably will try.
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  RG, you'd better get off this thread. Boss Shrub ordered all unbelievers off. You're going to get in trouble. It will probably be nothing severe, except perhaps boring you to death. I have been impressed how the unbelievers left after he issued the edict. Perhaps you didn't read it. He's opposed to monkey feeding but apparently the unbelievers aped him in vacating.
  
  As for you, more name calling passing as rational argument. So I'll try again--how is the origin of a belief relevant as to the claim of a religion?
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Name calling? What name did I call you? Isn't it you calling Earnest "Boss Shrub"? I will not ask you again. you are afraid.
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I called him that and I intended to. I wasn't arguing; I was labeling. You're taking a big chance.
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  And the name I called you? I'm taking a big chance? You blew yours!
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  Ron Montgomeryposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  THE TRUTH
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Least the little guy knows THE CREATOR
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Yes, I think you're right. The truth be known. He's definitely not on the British Dental Plan. Look at those pearly whites! Excellent, just excellent. My compliments.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I answered you 5 times now and you still do NOT accept my answer because it is NOT on your list.
  
  HE APPEARED TO ME and I believed.
  
  Did NOT come from a school, no man taught it to me, not my parents who were heathens, not a Sunday school teacher because I never went, not anything that you have on your list of "normal ways" one comes to believe.
  
  Sometimes HE...THE TRUTH shows HIMSELF to people and that is that.
  
  Does not make me a somebody, MAKES HIM SOVEREIGN.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I find it strange that Bidbowen, aka DJ and I have different "styles" and yet you will argue with either one of us.
  
  Your endless questions will never be answerd because you are NOT interested in THE TRUTH...if HE showed up HIMSELF and told you HE IS THE TRUTH...you would still question and ask for proof.
  
  You are NOT "unique" in this regard, many have done it when this actually does happen to them.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  lol what an ignorant comment. You think people should be forced into believing with physical punishment like push-ups or running? Nice.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Any thinking "individual" and or Marine would know that it was a metaphor.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I write in english, not in metaphors or tongue. Write what you mean and there will be no confusion.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  And all this time I thought an individual thinker had the ability to discern.....Hummmmm?
  
  And you were really a Marine???....Hummmm....under who's command?
  
  Because you did not learn discernment, your commander failed in his duty soldier.
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  lol, to know so much about the military and the marines, you should know not to call a marine a soldier. Another one of your false assumptions much like your belief in knowing anything.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Soldier: one engaged in military service, a skilled warrior, an enlisted man or woman.
  
  So are you not able to discern a metaphor?
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  lol I give up. You clearly have no point but to go in circles.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
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sandra rinckposted 10 years ago

you guys can share.
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quietnessandtrustposted 10 years ago
The question in the other forum still stands soldier.

4 comments later and you have not answered.
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  tantrumposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  You're learning fast !!!LOL
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  marinealways24posted 10 years agoin reply to this
  This is because you asked me a question "assuming" that I have children. I don't respond well to assumptions. You seem to have quite a lot of them. If you wish to call me soldier, I will call you prophet. When is the end of the world prophet?
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  Randy Godwinposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  What a hypocrite you are. You refuse to answer my question of whether you inherited your belief or not and then chide others for the same thing. You are scared to death to answer anyone's questions in a lucid manner. You actually make the snake handlers and tongue talkers seem almost normal in comparison.
  
  I will not address you anymore because I'm worried you may be one of those crazies who claim God tells them to do bad things. There have been many such people who spout the same gibberish you do, so rant on brother, rant on.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  "You refuse to answer my question of whether you inherited your belief or not"
  
  I answered it 3 times....NO
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kmackey32posted 10 years ago
no. I don't want too...
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earnestshubposted 10 years ago
Time to shut this thread down. We have a proper genuine religious loony here, and may as well be speaking to Mr. potatoe head.
Come on folks stop feeding the monkey!
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  Eaglekiwiposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  I with ya there
  besides hes got two others to romp around in now anyway!
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  Bibowenposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Really, Boss Shub, time to shut it down?
  
  Alright everyone, the Boss has spoken. Every one stop.
  
  I thought you guys did not believe in censorship!?
  
  As I said earlier, style is secondary, content is primary. You just reflect your emotional age if you can't get past that.
  
  Discuss the content; forget about critiquing style. It is irrelevant.
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  quietnessandtrustposted 10 years agoin reply to this
  Wisdom spoken there.
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