How important is River Jordan to our growth in the Way?
Nearly all important spiritual events in the history of Israel was witnessed by River Jordan. What is the significance of Jordan to us today?
During the days of Moshiach -before and after- haYarden was used as a division between territories. It should be noted that haYarden is a shallow river, descending 250 kilometers, north to south, emptying into the Dead Sea. Thus, we seeking growth of spirit, should flee from this, unless we too run the length of history, remain shallow and ultimately be emptied into the dead sea.
What does that question even mean? And what significance does any of it have on modern day civilization? Continuing to live with a 2000 + year old mentality can not be very healthy on the intelligent mind.
I guess that is true if you believe truth expires. There are timeless truths.
Continuing to move further away from this 2000 + year old mentality can not be very healthy on the Intelligent mind.
Humility and simplicity in one's spirit, for me, has kept me healthy in mind and spirit. And I have seen it in many people.
Thnx for the explanation. My ?s were not meant to be snide, just curious. Hard to understand the need, but not negating its value to you or those who have it. I have the same values but without a religious background.
I like the question. I was born and raised in a high desert. Water, any water, was treasured as life giving. Rivers are wonderful symbols of both constant change and constant flowing. Truly it is no accident that civilizations all began on waterways.
The Jordan to me, will always be a witness to the great miracles that abound all around us.
For me, the mysticism of the River Jordan fascinates me as it is a symbol of freedom from darkness, for in it I see the light of Christ shining that turns death to life.
The essence of our salvation is in our baptism, and in his baptism in the Holy Spirit, God the Father has blessed as he acknowledged his Son in Jesus, and said as the heavens parted, "This is My Son whom I love; with Him I am well pleased," as in Matthew 3:13-17.
How beautiful it is to see in us the divinity of Christ Jesus as we get baptized in water and in the Holy Spirit, in the 'name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit - the 'Three in One God,' that all may be enlightened to believe as we may pray in our hearts and spirit. It's God affirmed in us as we be baptized, then we can truly say as we may believe, in us is the 'Temple of the Holy Spirit.'
But how can we live in his light if we refuse to believe in this truth? A challenge for all who may remain in the darkness, and now wants to see the light.
Thanks for this beautiful question Segun. Blessings.
You have to cross the "River Jordan" to get to the Promised Land.
Your reference to "The Way" could mean The Way International which is considered by some to be a pseudo-Christian cult. It could also be your way of referring to traditional Christianity. Your reference to the River Jordan might mean the actual river or it could be an allegorical question about the need to cross the river into some kind of promised land. I have no idea how to answer this question.
What happened to the Nile, Ganges, Amazon and Yellow rivers. They all saw spiritual events of one kind or another. Rivers always have been the places where civilization congregate, for obvious reasons and so they will bear witness to the events taking place. To say one is more significant than another would be bias to say the least. Each river, I am sure, will play it's own part in our futures and in our coming histories.
Since the 1960s, the River Jordan has been transformed into a muddy, scummy irrigation and sewage ditch. It could be used as a symbol of the decline of religion in western civilization. It no longer serves as a good one for spiritual, tribal or cultural transition.
It represents the river of life to me. This river of life is the one promised by our Lord Jesus Christ that He would give; that would spring up to everlasting life. I quote: (John 4:7-14)
7 There came a woman of Samaria to draw water. Jesus said to her, "Give me a drink."
8 For his disciples had gone away into the city to buy food.
9 The Samaritan woman said to him, "How is it that you, a Jew, ask a drink of me, a woman of Samaria?" For Jews have no dealings with Samaritans.
10 Jesus answered her, "If you knew the gift of God, and who it is that is saying to you, 'Give me a drink,' you would have asked him, and he would have given you living water."
11 The woman said to him, "Sir, you have nothing to draw with, and the well is deep; where do you get that living water?
12 Are you greater than our father Jacob, who gave us the well, and drank from it himself, and his sons, and his cattle?"
13 Jesus said to her, "Every one who drinks of this water will thirst again,
14 but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst; the water that I shall give him will become in him a spring of water welling up to eternal life."
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