Here's the twist... How can you prove that God doesn't exist?

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    lyricsingrayposted 9 years ago

    do sheep swim for fun?

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      Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Not often.

      1. Cagsil profile image78
        Cagsilposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        But, they do know how to swim? Correct. lol

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          Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Doggie paddle, yep big_smile

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            lyricsingrayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            lair pee

            1. Cagsil profile image78
              Cagsilposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Don't make a mess! lol

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          lyricsingrayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          lol

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    Denno66posted 9 years ago

    Eeeeew!

    1. Cagsil profile image78
      Cagsilposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      lol

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        Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I'm gonna catch hell for my posting in christian humor lol

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          lyricsingrayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          lol

        2. shazwellyn profile image68
          shazwellynposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          i have the pales of water in place.. dont worry, all can be saved! *fires of hell* get it?

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            Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I'm going to need a firetruck; a reaaaallllly big one.... lol

            1. shazwellyn profile image68
              shazwellynposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              It isnt the firetrucks that is a problem.. it is their water supply.  Is there lots of water in hell?  I thought it was all fire and brimstone.  (what is brimstone anyway?  I would like to know... good to have an informed choice) x smile

  3. Cagsil profile image78
    Cagsilposted 9 years ago

    Congrats forum for Lyrics

    http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/28567

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    Denno66posted 9 years ago

    I have no idea, maybe it was what the ancient biblical cities were made of, I'm guessing. I have a fireproof handbasket for the trip anyhow. big_smile

    1. shazwellyn profile image68
      shazwellynposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      well that should come in handy.  I dont think anyone will be condemned to hell if they are kind and brave.  I think both you and Cagsil have these qualities. x

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        Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Well, thank you, but I'm not sure about Cagsil, I think he is actually Vulcan....big_smile

    2. tantrum profile image59
      tantrumposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      lol lol
      It's sulfur

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        Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

        See? Am I a great Catholic example?! lol

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          lyricsingrayposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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            Denno66posted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Wake up!!!! big_smile

  5. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
    GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

    Sorry Guys for interrupting, I just requested the HubPages team to close this thread...

    for the reason...

    I believe That God exists and that is proven here in this thread...

    Thanks for posting big_smile

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Rhubarb!

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Thanks earnests nyahahaha...

        They are hijacking the thread already wakikik...

        smile smile smile

        I hope that is understandable, with due respect my friend...

    2. pylos26 profile image73
      pylos26posted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I see nothing proven in this thread except ignorance...

      1. tantrum profile image59
        tantrumposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        lol lol
        People that believe in fairy tales can believe anything !

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    Denno66posted 9 years ago

    Okay, so God came back for the night or left the building?

  7. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
    GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

    Your redicule and scorn cannot prove anything...

    I gave you this thread for Proofs... but no Proofs came out...

    I'll better believe in Fairy Tales that God exists... and I can still sleep well later nyahahahahaha....

    1. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      I'm with tantrum, buy this and I have a bridge going cheap! smile

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Whatever Buddy...

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Congratulations on the 100 by the way. Very nice! smile

      2. tantrum profile image59
        tantrumposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        lol big_smile

    2. Make  Money profile image73
      Make Moneyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      Congratulations on the 100 score GeneralHowitzer.  Your grand son, Rich Andrei is a cute little guy.

    3. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

      No proofs came out because no proofs exists. 

      Get it this way if you can or if not there is no way.


      Proof = the explanation of a thing

      God is not a thing

      God does not exist

      God is nothing

      You cannot prove the existence of nothing

      Because there is no proof for the existence of a non-entity and god is a non-entity, you now have your proof.

      tongue

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    lyricsingrayposted 9 years ago

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  9. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
    GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

    Thanks to the two of you...

    You'll make it too Mike and earnests, I hope it will happen soon...

    @Mike - is he, yeah Thanks a lot hehehe...

    smile smile smile

    This thread will close in few hours...


    Thank you all guys for the wonderful posting you have had here although some of 'em are not, say pleasing to both sides... smile

  10. Bovine Currency profile image61
    Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

    Re: comment you made to me about logic...

    Learn it.  You asked for proof.  The word proof has a standard definition, to ask for proof it would be a reasonable assumption it is proof you are looking for, no?

    Well, according to what proof is and you asking for it and god being a thing only in fantasy, not reality, you asked a question that is impossible to answer.  All that god is to most people is a shared delusion.

    1. MikeNV profile image75
      MikeNVposted 9 years ago

      The same way you prove he/she/it does exist.

      How many times can you cut a piece of paper in half.

      If God can do anything can he build a rock so big he can't lift it.

      All useless arguments that go nowhere.

    2. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      Penis enters vagina, sperm ferilises egg, foetus, baby out vagina, grows up, done.  Not that complex.

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        So you don't want to see the complexity of genes,nervous system,brains etc.

        1. Bovine Currency profile image61
          Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          So biology?  Where is this leading.....

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Is it complex, does it require intelligence to create such complexities?

            1. Bovine Currency profile image61
              Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              no.

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                I thought as much, when you are able to see intelligence in this universe we shall talk.Meditate and you will understand me, god and enlightenment and see incredible intelligence at work all around you. smile It will blow your mind. smile

                1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                  Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  I can see intelligence.  You are all over the place.

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                    Star Witnessposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Do you have all the answers?  How about even within your own life?

                    1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      Do I have all the answers?  To what questions?  Are you suggesting a creator god is an answer to all questions?  I do not believe in god but I understand for those who do, what you are suggesting is one of the driving motivations for such a belief.  It is easier to explain everything away to a creator god, easier if you do not require proof.  I choose otherwise.

    3. simple0981 profile image60
      simple0981posted 9 years ago

      It's the same with Santa Claus. You can choose to believe or not, and when you don't believe in God's existence then you can prove he does not exist.

    4. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      Intelligence exists.

      There is no just thing as an intelligent creator god.

      Is that not easy enough to understand???

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        So this great superior intelligence has no source to it? At least now you say you can see intelligence around you, much better.

        1. Bovine Currency profile image61
          Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I never attached intelligence to this mystical definition you use.  Intelligence is a measurable quality.  God is a creation of your mind.  Only you can create god, with your imagination.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            I am an enlightened one , god is not my  imagination but a reality for me.

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      lyricsingrayposted 9 years ago

      you can't prove it exists or doesn't smile

      1. Cagsil profile image78
        Cagsilposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Sure, you can prove God doesn't live, providing you live your life inside what is known as reality.

        If you choose to go outside reality, then sure, one could understand or rationalize how God could possibly exists.

        Otherwise, he doesn't it.

        Reality exists. It exists free of independent thoughts, desires, will, or wishes. Reality is ALL knowable.

        Things that are unknown to us as a race, are not knowable, therefore presently don't exist.

        GOD is or lives supposedly in a mystical realm outside of reality.

        Therefore, it concludes that God doesn't exist.

        Thought it was simple enough to understand, but apparently not many want to listen to facts. Oh well, too bad for them.

        1. Allan Bogle profile image80
          Allan Bogleposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I dont understand this new age mumbo jumbo either. There are not any "facts" in your comment either.

          However I am tickled when reading "Things that are unknown to us as a race, are not knowable, therefore presently don't exist."

          Examples would include everything recently discovered. Because remember they dont "presently" exist until discovered. Before 1847, the gorilla never existed, only when it was discovered in '47 did it pop into existence.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            lol  lol   lol

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      Scott.Lifeposted 9 years ago

      I have a question. This is just one take on it too. If this is supposed to be about faith, and the strength of ones ability to hold fast to our beliefs despite popular opinion or lack of evidence, then why would any real believer want to prove God's existence one way or the other? All of you keep talking about how, or what the evidence you have says or what you read or what you wrote. Have you even stopped to ask why we should prove it, or even if we should?

      If everyone had proof God existed, where would faith be? Chances are those that denied him would rebel anyway on the principle of freedom. Then if you proved he didn't exist the other half would still deny the evidence because the only evidence faith has is personal interpretation. The faith is in you. I respect a man more for saying, I don't know, and I can't prove it, but My faith tells me so. This whole thing about trying to prove anything says only one thing if we're going to be honest. Asking science to prove religion right smacks of weak faith. Trying to prove your faith right to Atheists by using science smells like little faith at all. I see alot of believers in this thread who's faith is hanging by a thread and they struggle to shore it up with facts and links and articles. If you believe then do so, show me your faith with your belief not your ability to quote.

    7. WriteAngled profile image75
      WriteAngledposted 9 years ago

      I got deep into trouble at my Catholic school when I was about 13. I said that faith has to allow for the existence of doubt and uncertainty.

      I believe something because I have been convinced by hard facts and evidence. My belief may be incorrect. However, if someone can show me better facts and evidence that contradict what I believe, then I will change my belief.

      Faith involves a leap of the imagination. If, in the absence of hard facts or evidence, I say, "nevertheless I will accept that xxx is the case", that is faith. Faith can apply to all sorts of things, not just God etc. Entering into a relationship with someone is a leap of faith. I have no way of knowing that this person is really right for me.

      As for God, there are so many definitions of what that word means. It is senseless for two people to argue between themselves whether God exists if they are using different definitions.

      However, as Lao Tzu said: "The Tao that can be described in words is not the real Tao". My take on that is that once "God" is defined, He, She or It is being confined in the box of our limited imagination and therefore is no longer God.

      Lao Tzu also said: "Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know".

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        True but he has written books on god or the Tao or the Void.

        1. WriteAngled profile image75
          WriteAngledposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          We humans are contradictory creatures. Yes, if he had been true to himself, his sole output should have been that one sentence.

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Actually what he meant was words and language are really limited and cannot reveal god.

            "Why do I write I do not know,
            It is only ink on paper to show."

            Then I have written an entire book on god. smile
            Spiritual books have the ying and yang or contradictions in them as both exists. smile
            There have been masters who spoke on god and some who went into silence .

    8. Jerami profile image68
      Jeramiposted 9 years ago

      God what ever the discription, higher power, All that is etc.
      he can make diffrent covenants with diffrent peoples, tongs and nations. My relation ship with him can be diffrent that the relationship with you. H tells me that I should quit doing this and he tells my neighbor that he should quit doing that.

        My son calls me DAD, my sister calles me brother, etc.
      God is much more than I. Why can he not have diffrent names as well ??  As long as he has the same essence.

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        True god is a personal relationship he can be ones Mother, Father or best friend.
        Different names is simply because of geography and language.Man fights foolishly over gods name but we have so many different names or words for lets say Mother or Ma and no one fights over which is the correct name.

        1. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Which leaves the ground clear to argue about gods existence! lol
          Hi Mohit! smile

          1. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Hi Earenesthub at times I feel god is my father, at times my mother and at times my best friend.My inner or cosmic self. smile

            1. earnestshub profile image87
              earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              The last one sounds the safest! smile

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                I know you will relate with that smile

                1. earnestshub profile image87
                  earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  Are you selling some books?

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    Written only one book, its enough.Do you want a copy will send you an ebook.You will not find a better definition of god or a better book on the self or god.

                    1. earnestshub profile image87
                      earnestshubposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      Thank you Mohit, I will read it. I meant to ask have you sold many copies of your book, but really just asking if you are well and life good. smile

    9. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 9 years ago

      Mohit, I do know something about your work. Heading up quality sounds like a difficult job. smile

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I was Navigating Officer In the Merchant Navy  worked for Mosvold a Norwegian company. Was in charge of the Fire fighting , lifesaving and then Navigating department, I understand international quality something many Indians do not, we are 50 to 100 years behind the west.
        It is challenging and the money keeps me alive so I can keep working on my book, which is my baby , my life. smile

    10. earnestshub profile image87
      earnestshubposted 9 years ago

      You have had an interesting life Mohit, Plenty of responsibility, especially at sea. smile

      1. mohitmisra profile image60
        mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Yes adventurous and responsible, navigating some passages like the English Channel is difficult .Now I have a lot more responsibility though, too many fanatics on this planet, creating peace between religions will be a life long job. smile

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      rialeeposted 9 years ago

      How can you proove he does/did...watever???

    12. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 9 years ago

      it's funny, everytime I make a point you attack me, and it's funny how you keep on talking about science and logic, you believe in god, you using logic is like elton john getting married to a woman, it doesn't mix, here I go again with my stupidity, sorry=)

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Plain self-talk... big_smile

        You saw it yerself pal... big_smile

        1. topgunjager profile image60
          topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          yeah, have fun picking up trash in the philippines, one of the major catholic countries in the world, way to advance=)

          1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
            GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            It is better to pick trash here in the PHILIPPINES than to speak trash like you... big_smile

            1. topgunjager profile image60
              topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Oh yeah, I'll trade lives with you in a heartbeat=)

    13. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 9 years ago

      Science - 5 X 5 is 25
      Religion - I know the truth, I'm not sure exactly how but I can make some stuff up to prove my point=)

      <snipped - no personal attacks in the forums>

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I just read the HubPages' TOS and you are veering away from the topic...

        Just to remind you the forum's thread is READ THIS pal: Here's the twist... How can you prove that God doesn't exist.

        And you have a mouthful of religion words already including this post...

        1. topgunjager profile image60
          topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          no matter what points and sense i make it wouldn't matter to you because you believe, if you believe in something, no matter what evidence is thrown in your face, you'll still fight for what you believe, so please, try not to make people look stupid with your words, it keeps on bouncing back to you. by the way, your son is cute, i bet you "believe" he's the cutest baby in the world no matter what anyone says right? oopss, stupid point once again=)

          1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
            GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            You haven't showed me any evidence yet... is there any... no you haven't LOL big_smile

            1. topgunjager profile image60
              topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I did but your little trash picking dog eating mind can't pick it up=)

              1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
                GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Hehehe... Plain self-talk again, why you are keep on hitting your own back... big_smile

                1. topgunjager profile image60
                  topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  what are you talking about?

          2. mohitmisra profile image60
            mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            But you believe god doesn't exist?

            1. topgunjager profile image60
              topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              I have an idea, which keep me open to possibilities=) I'm not completely shutting my brain down because i don't want to be stupid. I'm not gonna claim I know things, all I can do is prove points and make sense, a concept which religionists fail to grasp=)

              1. mohitmisra profile image60
                mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                It may be the other way around,you fail to grasp what they are saying.

                I'm not gonna claim I know things- that is it- you don't know, and not that the people who know are stupid.

                1. topgunjager profile image60
                  topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  it maybe but it's not=)

                  1. mohitmisra profile image60
                    mohitmisraposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    You don't know is the truth.

                    1. topgunjager profile image60
                      topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                      i do, because i'm talking about the failure to grasp sense, not the existence of god=)

            2. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
              GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              This fella tends to be judgeful... You are really throwing me right off all the time pal... big_smile

              1. topgunjager profile image60
                topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                i'm judgeful? why don't you try scrolling up and see where this argument between us started since you;re so smart and I'm so dumb. by throwing you off do you mean making sense?smile

      2. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I hope you will not get banned with this Top... big_smile

    14. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 9 years ago

      o yeah, and LOL as well, your comment was so hilarious=)

    15. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
      GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

      LOL big_smile

      1. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        got nothing else to say?

    16. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 9 years ago

      of course you don't, you can't back any of your words up, and by the way, good job trying to bash me and putting me down because we don;t have the same belief, just as jesus would want you to do right?smile

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        No answer with my question, hehehe that has something to do with Logic, pretend to be logical yet not ah you disappoint me...

        Its my freewill pal why are you so anxious with it...

        You are highly presumptuous you even attack my avatar...

        You know what your avatar will in no way bully me...

        1. topgunjager profile image60
          topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          I attacked your avatar? by saying your son is cute? wow, i'm really going to hell now=)

          1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
            GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            He is not my son nyahahaha he is my grandson...

            1. topgunjager profile image60
              topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              oh wow, you really got me there, how embarassing=)

              1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
                GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this
                1. topgunjager profile image60
                  topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  i know i am, thanks=)

    17. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
      GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

      If you'll answer this simple math problem I'll be tipping my hat on you...

      What is 1+1 = ?

      Clue this is something to do with Boolean Algebra...

      Answer in 5 mins..

      1. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        oh wow, you're so good at math, let me guess, 1? I wish I was you now=)

    18. topgunjager profile image60
      topgunjagerposted 9 years ago

      so we should just all agree with you all the time right? because making sense offends you.

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      cathinfranceposted 9 years ago

      Prove god doesn't exist? It's very easy. Can 'god' create a boulder so heavy he can't lift it? A simple question but it demonstrates the essential impossibility of "all powerful."

      1. fatfist profile image77
        fatfistposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Bingo!
        You just defeated the nonsensical quality known as "omnipotence". Good work cath, you have just proven that this "god" thing is NOT all powerful as claimed by the all enthusiastic in here. All we have now is a "god" concept that is crippled and can't do anything.

      2. topgunjager profile image60
        topgunjagerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        yeay yeay=)

      3. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Only time will tell and that remains to be seen...

        How can you prove he can lift if it when you dismiss his existence...

        Prove his non-existence first then go up to the next ladder rung...

        (If you dare insist that way, you are contradicting and you just smothered your point that God Doesn't exist...)

        This is the essence of the thread smokescreen will make no difference


        I will never let anyone carry even a speck of stone when I knew there is no one around that would bother do it.
        smile

        1. fatfist profile image77
          fatfistposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          (Prove his non-existence first then go up to the next ladder rung...)

          LOL smile
          The whole point flew 30 miles over your head there general.
          cath proved that the property of "all powerful" is impossible. Omnipotence is impossible. You can take this fact and do what you want with it.

          Don't worry though: your "god concept" is still alive and kicking in your mind. It will always be safe and sound.
          The point is: do you want to define any "new" attributes for your concept now, because as you know, it's crippled.

          Also, you haven't even defined or reified your god concept into reality. So you have quite the biblical task ahead of you, especially after now discovering it will come out crippled.

          1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
            GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            Can you create a human being with your bare hands that is impossible too Buddy...

            I cannot create a human being hehehe with my bare hands that means to say I am omnipotent already, since omnipotence is equivalent to impossible...

            Your words are completely out of sync... and not in unison LOL smile

            1. Bovine Currency profile image61
              Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              omnipotence is impossible, impossible is not omnipotence.

              1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
                GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                LOL if you'll express that mathematically you contradicted yourself black and blue hehehe...

                "Is" is equivalent to "equals to"

                then all of a sudden

                "Is not" becomes "not equals to"

                Even Mathematics not only Logic will not favor you... LOL big_smile

                1. Bovine Currency profile image61
                  Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  You are kidding right?

                  1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
                    GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                    No I am not...

            2. fatfist profile image77
              fatfistposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Oh general, do I really have to teach you about the little birdies and the little bees? Check the little birdie in your pants, you'll know what I mean.

              It took 9 months for your mother to make you. And all she had to do was eat some food. Surely that doesn't mean your mother is all powerful, general. But thanks for trying.

    20. chigoiyke profile image62
      chigoiykeposted 9 years ago

      Enough of this here. there is no denying the fact that God exist. Facts and Figures have proved it already. Whats more??

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Yeah I know...

        (not you chi) Now You've had broken my silence now silence is on your part...

        You know what guys I really wanted that this thread should be closed because no substantial proofs are given until now...

        Now that is the way it used to be (sounds like an old song title, nyahahaha) I will do my best to protect this thread... big_smile

    21. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
      GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years ago

      Hmmm... I think Silence of the Lambs is a great movie eh... GTG its 1 am here...

    22. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      time travel = impossible

      therefore, impossible = time travel ?

      flying purple donkeys = impossible

      therefore,

      flying purple donkeys = time travel

      No. you are wrong.

      1. fatfist profile image77
        fatfistposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        Actually Bovine, you are way out of line here. You are not aware that there is a branch of academia in religion that is known as: Church Logic

        With Church Logic, anything is possible! smile

    23. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      how about this one then

      god = possible

      china = possible

      god = china

      equivalent?

      1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
        GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        You just made it up lol...

        1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
          GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          You just made it up lol...

          I can also make something better than that...

        2. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
          GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          You just made it up lol...

          I can also make something better than that... By the way you just use "not equals to" above, why it is missing now?

          1. Bovine Currency profile image61
            Bovine Currencyposted 9 years agoin reply to this

            What?

            Its not hard general.

            You are wrong, I am right. simple.

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              wordscribe41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

              Gonna have to agree with the cow here, general.  Not to mention, logic excludes the need to prove a negative.  The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the person making the assertion.  It's up to ME to prove to you that purple unicorns exist, not on you to prove they don't.  You can never prove a negative, and frankly, it's not necessary.

              1. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
                GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

                Lol I'm about to extract a win here don't interfere here Ma'm...

                1. profile image0
                  wordscribe41posted 9 years agoin reply to this

                  You're funny.  Still waiting for the win, general.  Sorry for the interference.  smile

            2. GeneralHowitzer profile image68
              GeneralHowitzerposted 9 years agoin reply to this

              "Equals to" is not equivalent to "Not Equals to"

              Don't say you are willing to break the Mathematical Laws it is clear that you use "not equals to" above... big_smile LOL

              And you are giving me a twisted example hehehe.

    24. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      Make up your mind.


      GeneralHowitzer wrote:
      Bovine Currency wrote:
      GeneralHowitzer wrote:


      Can you create a human being with your bare hands that is impossible too Buddy...

      I cannot create a human being hehehe with my bare hands that means to say I am omnipotent already, since omnipotence is equivalent to impossible...

      Your words are completely out of sync... and not in unison LOL 

      omnipotence is impossible, impossible is not omnipotence.
      LOL if you'll express that mathematically you contradicted yourself black and blue hehehe...

      "Is" is equivalent to "equals to"

      then all of a sudden

      "Is not" becomes "not equals to"

      Even Mathematics not only Logic will not favor you... LOL

    25. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      i am just repeating the rules of non-logic you are promoting

    26. janiek13 profile image77
      janiek13posted 9 years ago

      It is impossible to prove a negative. That is a scientific reality. God is about faith,not proof. He does prove his existence to me in so many ways every day. Scientists sometimes forget that the knowledge that we all have comes from God. Yes, we sometimes think that we have discovered the universe and all of it's secrets, but we are a prideful bunch. It doesn't matter what you may call Him, He is the Great I Am, but I call Him, Father.

      1. Cagsil profile image78
        Cagsilposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        For those of us who live in reality- GOD doesn't exist. For those of you who want to live in a mystical based world, then sure GOD exists, but only in your imaginary thoughts, by which have NOTHING to do with reality, because thoughts, desires, will or wishes, have nothing to do with reality. Reality is all knowable, which isn't to say that we know everything there is to know, but means that we know everything there is in reality, at the time we are talking about it.

        Reality exists, like the Universe exists and Life on Earth exists. It just does. Nothing cause the Universe to happen, The Universe cause Earth to come to be, and Earth evolved so as to support Human Existence.

        Please, whatever you do- DO NOT say that God exists, because the topic 'god' itself is imaginary. It is YOU that make a difference in your life, by using your consciousness, conscience and subconsciousness, in the manner in which you are suppose to in the first place.

        There is NO god looking out for Us or anyone for that matter.

      2. fatfist profile image77
        fatfistposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        (It is impossible to prove a negative.)

        Hmmmmmm. Isn't THAT statement a negative???

        Let's use some brain cells people smile

    27. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      extract a win, big_smile big_smile

    28. Bovine Currency profile image61
      Bovine Currencyposted 9 years ago

      logic is infallible general, you are not attacking me but logic.

      1. AdsenseStrategies profile image70
        AdsenseStrategiesposted 9 years agoin reply to this

        I think logic has its limits though (though I think I would need to be a pure mathematician to show this, which I am not...).

        Logic is a pretty safe bet on balance though. Nevertheless, without having read the rest of the thread, it seems right that a person cannot prove God's non-existence.

        I think you can, however, prove certain supposed *characteristics* of God are not possible.

        For example, God cannot be:
        a) all powerful
        b) completely compassionate and merciful
        if 27 000 children are dying every single day of preventable diseases (which they are).

        I mean, even if we accept the idea that God gave us free will, and that to intervene would be to disrespect the freedom of our spirits, as granted to us, by him, don't things get so bad at some point that he has to step in and say: OK, this is really too much, I'm going to stop some of this misery.
        I'd do it -- am I more merciful than God?

        1. tantrum profile image59
          tantrumposted 9 years agoin reply to this

          Anyone is more merciful than God !
          that's a proof that he doesn't exist.
          If you were a God, would you be happy to see your creation in so much suffering in such a misery ? ?
          I think not .

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