Here's the twist... How can you prove that God doesn't exist?

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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
do sheep swim for fun?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Not often.
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  Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But, they do know how to swim? Correct.
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Doggie paddle, yep
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  lair pee
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  Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Don't make a mess!
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Eeeeew!
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  Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm gonna catch hell for my posting in christian humor
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i have the pales of water in place.. dont worry, all can be saved! *fires of hell* get it?
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm going to need a firetruck; a reaaaallllly big one....
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  shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It isnt the firetrucks that is a problem.. it is their water supply. Is there lots of water in hell? I thought it was all fire and brimstone. (what is brimstone anyway? I would like to know... good to have an informed choice) x
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Cagsilposted 15 years ago
Congrats forum for Lyrics

http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/28567
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
I have no idea, maybe it was what the ancient biblical cities were made of, I'm guessing. I have a fireproof handbasket for the trip anyhow.
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  shazwellynposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  well that should come in handy. I dont think anyone will be condemned to hell if they are kind and brave. I think both you and Cagsil have these qualities. x
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well, thank you, but I'm not sure about Cagsil, I think he is actually Vulcan....
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  It's sulfur
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  See? Am I a great Catholic example?!
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  lyricsingrayposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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  Denno66posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Wake up!!!!
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
Sorry Guys for interrupting, I just requested the HubPages team to close this thread...

for the reason...

I believe That God exists and that is proven here in this thread...

Thanks for posting
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Rhubarb!
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thanks earnests nyahahaha...
  
  They are hijacking the thread already wakikik...
  
  I hope that is understandable, with due respect my friend...
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  pylos26posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I see nothing proven in this thread except ignorance...
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
  People that believe in fairy tales can believe anything !
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Denno66posted 15 years ago
Okay, so God came back for the night or left the building?
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
Your redicule and scorn cannot prove anything...

I gave you this thread for Proofs... but no Proofs came out...

I'll better believe in Fairy Tales that God exists... and I can still sleep well later nyahahahahaha....
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I'm with tantrum, buy this and I have a bridge going cheap!
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Whatever Buddy...
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Congratulations on the 100 by the way. Very nice!
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
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  Make Moneyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Congratulations on the 100 score GeneralHowitzer. Your grand son, Rich Andrei is a cute little guy.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No proofs came out because no proofs exists.
  
  Get it this way if you can or if not there is no way.
  
  Proof = the explanation of a thing
  
  God is not a thing
  
  God does not exist
  
  God is nothing
  
  You cannot prove the existence of nothing
  
  Because there is no proof for the existence of a non-entity and god is a non-entity, you now have your proof.
  
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
Thanks to the two of you...

You'll make it too Mike and earnests, I hope it will happen soon...

@Mike - is he, yeah Thanks a lot hehehe...

This thread will close in few hours...

Thank you all guys for the wonderful posting you have had here although some of 'em are not, say pleasing to both sides...
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
Re: comment you made to me about logic...

Learn it. You asked for proof. The word proof has a standard definition, to ask for proof it would be a reasonable assumption it is proof you are looking for, no?

Well, according to what proof is and you asking for it and god being a thing only in fantasy, not reality, you asked a question that is impossible to answer. All that god is to most people is a shared delusion.
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MikeNVposted 15 years ago
The same way you prove he/she/it does exist.

How many times can you cut a piece of paper in half.

If God can do anything can he build a rock so big he can't lift it.

All useless arguments that go nowhere.
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
Penis enters vagina, sperm ferilises egg, foetus, baby out vagina, grows up, done. Not that complex.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So you don't want to see the complexity of genes,nervous system,brains etc.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So biology? Where is this leading.....
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Is it complex, does it require intelligence to create such complexities?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  no.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I thought as much, when you are able to see intelligence in this universe we shall talk.Meditate and you will understand me, god and enlightenment and see incredible intelligence at work all around you. It will blow your mind.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I can see intelligence. You are all over the place.
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  Star Witnessposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do you have all the answers? How about even within your own life?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Do I have all the answers? To what questions? Are you suggesting a creator god is an answer to all questions? I do not believe in god but I understand for those who do, what you are suggesting is one of the driving motivations for such a belief. It is easier to explain everything away to a creator god, easier if you do not require proof. I choose otherwise.
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simple0981posted 15 years ago
It's the same with Santa Claus. You can choose to believe or not, and when you don't believe in God's existence then you can prove he does not exist.
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
Intelligence exists.

There is no just thing as an intelligent creator god.

Is that not easy enough to understand???
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  So this great superior intelligence has no source to it? At least now you say you can see intelligence around you, much better.
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I never attached intelligence to this mystical definition you use. Intelligence is a measurable quality. God is a creation of your mind. Only you can create god, with your imagination.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am an enlightened one , god is not my imagination but a reality for me.
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lyricsingrayposted 15 years ago
you can't prove it exists or doesn't
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  Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Sure, you can prove God doesn't live, providing you live your life inside what is known as reality.
  
  If you choose to go outside reality, then sure, one could understand or rationalize how God could possibly exists.
  
  Otherwise, he doesn't it.
  
  Reality exists. It exists free of independent thoughts, desires, will, or wishes. Reality is ALL knowable.
  
  Things that are unknown to us as a race, are not knowable, therefore presently don't exist.
  
  GOD is or lives supposedly in a mystical realm outside of reality.
  
  Therefore, it concludes that God doesn't exist.
  
  Thought it was simple enough to understand, but apparently not many want to listen to facts. Oh well, too bad for them.
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  Allan Bogleposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I dont understand this new age mumbo jumbo either. There are not any "facts" in your comment either.
  
  However I am tickled when reading "Things that are unknown to us as a race, are not knowable, therefore presently don't exist."
  
  Examples would include everything recently discovered. Because remember they dont "presently" exist until discovered. Before 1847, the gorilla never existed, only when it was discovered in '47 did it pop into existence.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  
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Scott.Lifeposted 15 years ago
I have a question. This is just one take on it too. If this is supposed to be about faith, and the strength of ones ability to hold fast to our beliefs despite popular opinion or lack of evidence, then why would any real believer want to prove God's existence one way or the other? All of you keep talking about how, or what the evidence you have says or what you read or what you wrote. Have you even stopped to ask why we should prove it, or even if we should?

If everyone had proof God existed, where would faith be? Chances are those that denied him would rebel anyway on the principle of freedom. Then if you proved he didn't exist the other half would still deny the evidence because the only evidence faith has is personal interpretation. The faith is in you. I respect a man more for saying, I don't know, and I can't prove it, but My faith tells me so. This whole thing about trying to prove anything says only one thing if we're going to be honest. Asking science to prove religion right smacks of weak faith. Trying to prove your faith right to Atheists by using science smells like little faith at all. I see alot of believers in this thread who's faith is hanging by a thread and they struggle to shore it up with facts and links and articles. If you believe then do so, show me your faith with your belief not your ability to quote.
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WriteAngledposted 15 years ago
I got deep into trouble at my Catholic school when I was about 13. I said that faith has to allow for the existence of doubt and uncertainty.

I believe something because I have been convinced by hard facts and evidence. My belief may be incorrect. However, if someone can show me better facts and evidence that contradict what I believe, then I will change my belief.

Faith involves a leap of the imagination. If, in the absence of hard facts or evidence, I say, "nevertheless I will accept that xxx is the case", that is faith. Faith can apply to all sorts of things, not just God etc. Entering into a relationship with someone is a leap of faith. I have no way of knowing that this person is really right for me.

As for God, there are so many definitions of what that word means. It is senseless for two people to argue between themselves whether God exists if they are using different definitions.

However, as Lao Tzu said: "The Tao that can be described in words is not the real Tao". My take on that is that once "God" is defined, He, She or It is being confined in the box of our limited imagination and therefore is no longer God.

Lao Tzu also said: "Those who know, do not speak. Those who speak, do not know".
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  True but he has written books on god or the Tao or the Void.
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  WriteAngledposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We humans are contradictory creatures. Yes, if he had been true to himself, his sole output should have been that one sentence.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Actually what he meant was words and language are really limited and cannot reveal god.
  
  "Why do I write I do not know,
  It is only ink on paper to show."
  
  Then I have written an entire book on god.
  Spiritual books have the ying and yang or contradictions in them as both exists.
  There have been masters who spoke on god and some who went into silence .
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Jeramiposted 15 years ago
God what ever the discription, higher power, All that is etc.
he can make diffrent covenants with diffrent peoples, tongs and nations. My relation ship with him can be diffrent that the relationship with you. H tells me that I should quit doing this and he tells my neighbor that he should quit doing that.

My son calls me DAD, my sister calles me brother, etc.
God is much more than I. Why can he not have diffrent names as well ?? As long as he has the same essence.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  True god is a personal relationship he can be ones Mother, Father or best friend.
  Different names is simply because of geography and language.Man fights foolishly over gods name but we have so many different names or words for lets say Mother or Ma and no one fights over which is the correct name.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Which leaves the ground clear to argue about gods existence!
  Hi Mohit!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hi Earenesthub at times I feel god is my father, at times my mother and at times my best friend.My inner or cosmic self.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  The last one sounds the safest!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I know you will relate with that
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Are you selling some books?
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Written only one book, its enough.Do you want a copy will send you an ebook.You will not find a better definition of god or a better book on the self or god.
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Thank you Mohit, I will read it. I meant to ask have you sold many copies of your book, but really just asking if you are well and life good.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Roughly 2,000 copies , not earning enough to live of it , have taken up a job in an IT company recently, heading the Quality team.
  How about you?
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I am glad you have sold so many, and also that you have the IT job for income. I am retired these days, except for the fact that my grandchildren need me around, I just write these days.My kids and grand kids are my love in life! I have been known to cry with joy far too often when I am talking to them. Children today at 3 4 or 5 are smarter than we ever were. I adore them!
  I know, I an getting old and silly!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I agree with you about kids being smarter than us, I see it myself.You don't look like a grand father .
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Married young, made and lost a couple of fortunes, had a great life so far, full of change and love.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Cool and surviving cancer and having an out of body experience
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Just so. I am always impressed by someone re4membering what they have read about others. it shows real interest. Very nice!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Well it was very interesting, so I remembered
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  earnestshubposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I will warn you Mohit, just to be fair. I can talk about my grandchildren and relate our conversations incessantly!
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  no probs
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
Mohit, I do know something about your work. Heading up quality sounds like a difficult job.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I was Navigating Officer In the Merchant Navy worked for Mosvold a Norwegian company. Was in charge of the Fire fighting , lifesaving and then Navigating department, I understand international quality something many Indians do not, we are 50 to 100 years behind the west.
  It is challenging and the money keeps me alive so I can keep working on my book, which is my baby , my life.
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earnestshubposted 15 years ago
You have had an interesting life Mohit, Plenty of responsibility, especially at sea.
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yes adventurous and responsible, navigating some passages like the English Channel is difficult .Now I have a lot more responsibility though, too many fanatics on this planet, creating peace between religions will be a life long job.
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rialeeposted 15 years ago
How can you proove he does/did...watever???
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topgunjagerposted 15 years ago
it's funny, everytime I make a point you attack me, and it's funny how you keep on talking about science and logic, you believe in god, you using logic is like elton john getting married to a woman, it doesn't mix, here I go again with my stupidity, sorry=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Plain self-talk...
  
  You saw it yerself pal...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yeah, have fun picking up trash in the philippines, one of the major catholic countries in the world, way to advance=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It is better to pick trash here in the PHILIPPINES than to speak trash like you...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh yeah, I'll trade lives with you in a heartbeat=)
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topgunjagerposted 15 years ago
Science - 5 X 5 is 25
Religion - I know the truth, I'm not sure exactly how but I can make some stuff up to prove my point=)

<snipped - no personal attacks in the forums>
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I just read the HubPages' TOS and you are veering away from the topic...
  
  Just to remind you the forum's thread is READ THIS pal: Here's the twist... How can you prove that God doesn't exist.
  
  And you have a mouthful of religion words already including this post...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  no matter what points and sense i make it wouldn't matter to you because you believe, if you believe in something, no matter what evidence is thrown in your face, you'll still fight for what you believe, so please, try not to make people look stupid with your words, it keeps on bouncing back to you. by the way, your son is cute, i bet you "believe" he's the cutest baby in the world no matter what anyone says right? oopss, stupid point once again=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You haven't showed me any evidence yet... is there any... no you haven't LOL
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I did but your little trash picking dog eating mind can't pick it up=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Hehehe... Plain self-talk again, why you are keep on hitting your own back...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  what are you talking about?
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  But you believe god doesn't exist?
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I have an idea, which keep me open to possibilities=) I'm not completely shutting my brain down because i don't want to be stupid. I'm not gonna claim I know things, all I can do is prove points and make sense, a concept which religionists fail to grasp=)
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  It may be the other way around,you fail to grasp what they are saying.
  
  I'm not gonna claim I know things- that is it- you don't know, and not that the people who know are stupid.
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  it maybe but it's not=)
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You don't know is the truth.
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i do, because i'm talking about the failure to grasp sense, not the existence of god=)
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  We are in a dimension which makes no sense.
  
  "Day to dawn makes no sense,
  What does, we call non sense. "
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah it is I guess its time to say ceasefire on my part...
  
  So long top and mohit...
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  mohitmisraposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  See you general, I am off as well
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  next time you try to attack me, try coming a litle prepared ok=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I never attacked you man, that is not my style, call it part of argument...
  
  You still haven't got my head in a silver platter, no never...
  
  You don't even know 1+1=? in Boolean Algebra, which has something to do with Logic reasoning and you just demonstrated an elementary 5x5=25... LOL even my grade 1 nephew knew this...
  
  Very shallow... I can't fathom it... really...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  day to dawn doesn't make sense? ok i must be really confused now=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  This fella tends to be judgeful... You are really throwing me right off all the time pal...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i'm judgeful? why don't you try scrolling up and see where this argument between us started since you;re so smart and I'm so dumb. by throwing you off do you mean making sense?
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I hope you will not get banned with this Top...
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topgunjagerposted 15 years ago
o yeah, and LOL as well, your comment was so hilarious=)
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
LOL
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  got nothing else to say?
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topgunjagerposted 15 years ago
of course you don't, you can't back any of your words up, and by the way, good job trying to bash me and putting me down because we don;t have the same belief, just as jesus would want you to do right?
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No answer with my question, hehehe that has something to do with Logic, pretend to be logical yet not ah you disappoint me...
  
  Its my freewill pal why are you so anxious with it...
  
  You are highly presumptuous you even attack my avatar...
  
  You know what your avatar will in no way bully me...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I attacked your avatar? by saying your son is cute? wow, i'm really going to hell now=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  He is not my son nyahahaha he is my grandson...
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh wow, you really got me there, how embarassing=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  i know i am, thanks=)
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
If you'll answer this simple math problem I'll be tipping my hat on you...

What is 1+1 = ?

Clue this is something to do with Boolean Algebra...

Answer in 5 mins..
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  oh wow, you're so good at math, let me guess, 1? I wish I was you now=)
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topgunjagerposted 15 years ago
so we should just all agree with you all the time right? because making sense offends you.
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cathinfranceposted 15 years ago
Prove god doesn't exist? It's very easy. Can 'god' create a boulder so heavy he can't lift it? A simple question but it demonstrates the essential impossibility of "all powerful."
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  fatfistposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Bingo!
  You just defeated the nonsensical quality known as "omnipotence". Good work cath, you have just proven that this "god" thing is NOT all powerful as claimed by the all enthusiastic in here. All we have now is a "god" concept that is crippled and can't do anything.
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  topgunjagerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  yeay yeay=)
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Only time will tell and that remains to be seen...
  
  How can you prove he can lift if it when you dismiss his existence...
  
  Prove his non-existence first then go up to the next ladder rung...
  
  (If you dare insist that way, you are contradicting and you just smothered your point that God Doesn't exist...)
  
  This is the essence of the thread smokescreen will make no difference
  
  I will never let anyone carry even a speck of stone when I knew there is no one around that would bother do it.
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  fatfistposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  (Prove his non-existence first then go up to the next ladder rung...)
  
  LOL
  The whole point flew 30 miles over your head there general.
  cath proved that the property of "all powerful" is impossible. Omnipotence is impossible. You can take this fact and do what you want with it.
  
  Don't worry though: your "god concept" is still alive and kicking in your mind. It will always be safe and sound.
  The point is: do you want to define any "new" attributes for your concept now, because as you know, it's crippled.
  
  Also, you haven't even defined or reified your god concept into reality. So you have quite the biblical task ahead of you, especially after now discovering it will come out crippled.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Can you create a human being with your bare hands that is impossible too Buddy...
  
  I cannot create a human being hehehe with my bare hands that means to say I am omnipotent already, since omnipotence is equivalent to impossible...
  
  Your words are completely out of sync... and not in unison LOL
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  omnipotence is impossible, impossible is not omnipotence.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  LOL if you'll express that mathematically you contradicted yourself black and blue hehehe...
  
  "Is" is equivalent to "equals to"
  
  then all of a sudden
  
  "Is not" becomes "not equals to"
  
  Even Mathematics not only Logic will not favor you... LOL
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You are kidding right?
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  No I am not...
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  fatfistposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Oh general, do I really have to teach you about the little birdies and the little bees? Check the little birdie in your pants, you'll know what I mean.
  
  It took 9 months for your mother to make you. And all she had to do was eat some food. Surely that doesn't mean your mother is all powerful, general. But thanks for trying.
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chigoiykeposted 15 years ago
Enough of this here. there is no denying the fact that God exist. Facts and Figures have proved it already. Whats more??
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Yeah I know...
  
  (not you chi) Now You've had broken my silence now silence is on your part...
  
  You know what guys I really wanted that this thread should be closed because no substantial proofs are given until now...
  
  Now that is the way it used to be (sounds like an old song title, nyahahaha) I will do my best to protect this thread...
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GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years ago
Hmmm... I think Silence of the Lambs is a great movie eh... GTG its 1 am here...
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
time travel = impossible

therefore, impossible = time travel ?

flying purple donkeys = impossible

therefore,

flying purple donkeys = time travel

No. you are wrong.
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  fatfistposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Actually Bovine, you are way out of line here. You are not aware that there is a branch of academia in religion that is known as: Church Logic
  
  With Church Logic, anything is possible!
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
how about this one then

god = possible

china = possible

god = china

equivalent?
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You just made it up lol...
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You just made it up lol...
  
  I can also make something better than that...
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You just made it up lol...
  
  I can also make something better than that... By the way you just use "not equals to" above, why it is missing now?
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  Bovine Currencyposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  What?
  
  Its not hard general.
  
  You are wrong, I am right. simple.
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  wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Gonna have to agree with the cow here, general. Not to mention, logic excludes the need to prove a negative. The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the person making the assertion. It's up to ME to prove to you that purple unicorns exist, not on you to prove they don't. You can never prove a negative, and frankly, it's not necessary.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Lol I'm about to extract a win here don't interfere here Ma'm...
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  wordscribe41posted 15 years agoin reply to this
  You're funny. Still waiting for the win, general. Sorry for the interference.
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  GeneralHowitzerposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  "Equals to" is not equivalent to "Not Equals to"
  
  Don't say you are willing to break the Mathematical Laws it is clear that you use "not equals to" above... LOL
  
  And you are giving me a twisted example hehehe.
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
Make up your mind.

GeneralHowitzer wrote:
Bovine Currency wrote:
GeneralHowitzer wrote:

Can you create a human being with your bare hands that is impossible too Buddy...

I cannot create a human being hehehe with my bare hands that means to say I am omnipotent already, since omnipotence is equivalent to impossible...

Your words are completely out of sync... and not in unison LOL

omnipotence is impossible, impossible is not omnipotence.
LOL if you'll express that mathematically you contradicted yourself black and blue hehehe...

"Is" is equivalent to "equals to"

then all of a sudden

"Is not" becomes "not equals to"

Even Mathematics not only Logic will not favor you... LOL
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
i am just repeating the rules of non-logic you are promoting
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janiek13posted 15 years ago
It is impossible to prove a negative. That is a scientific reality. God is about faith,not proof. He does prove his existence to me in so many ways every day. Scientists sometimes forget that the knowledge that we all have comes from God. Yes, we sometimes think that we have discovered the universe and all of it's secrets, but we are a prideful bunch. It doesn't matter what you may call Him, He is the Great I Am, but I call Him, Father.
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  Cagsilposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  For those of us who live in reality- GOD doesn't exist. For those of you who want to live in a mystical based world, then sure GOD exists, but only in your imaginary thoughts, by which have NOTHING to do with reality, because thoughts, desires, will or wishes, have nothing to do with reality. Reality is all knowable, which isn't to say that we know everything there is to know, but means that we know everything there is in reality, at the time we are talking about it.
  
  Reality exists, like the Universe exists and Life on Earth exists. It just does. Nothing cause the Universe to happen, The Universe cause Earth to come to be, and Earth evolved so as to support Human Existence.
  
  Please, whatever you do- DO NOT say that God exists, because the topic 'god' itself is imaginary. It is YOU that make a difference in your life, by using your consciousness, conscience and subconsciousness, in the manner in which you are suppose to in the first place.
  
  There is NO god looking out for Us or anyone for that matter.
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  fatfistposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  (It is impossible to prove a negative.)
  
  Hmmmmmm. Isn't THAT statement a negative???
  
  Let's use some brain cells people
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
extract a win,
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Bovine Currencyposted 15 years ago
logic is infallible general, you are not attacking me but logic.
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  AdsenseStrategiesposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  I think logic has its limits though (though I think I would need to be a pure mathematician to show this, which I am not...).
  
  Logic is a pretty safe bet on balance though. Nevertheless, without having read the rest of the thread, it seems right that a person cannot prove God's non-existence.
  
  I think you can, however, prove certain supposed *characteristics* of God are not possible.
  
  For example, God cannot be:
  a) all powerful
  b) completely compassionate and merciful
  if 27 000 children are dying every single day of preventable diseases (which they are).
  
  I mean, even if we accept the idea that God gave us free will, and that to intervene would be to disrespect the freedom of our spirits, as granted to us, by him, don't things get so bad at some point that he has to step in and say: OK, this is really too much, I'm going to stop some of this misery.
  I'd do it -- am I more merciful than God?
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  tantrumposted 15 years agoin reply to this
  Anyone is more merciful than God !
  that's a proof that he doesn't exist.
  If you were a God, would you be happy to see your creation in so much suffering in such a misery ? ?
  I think not .
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