Whoever loves discipline loves knowledge, but he who hates correction is stupid.
That's good.I like that.
How can you bring correction to one that rejects the truth?
If I say "such and such is wrong", does that bring correction?
To some yes, but not in these forums. It brings condemnation like "who do you think you are shoving your beliefs on us", or "who gave you the right to judge others". Then there are the less venomous ones like "how condescending is that?". Or "holier than thou attitudes"
just curious, i see a lot of people here talking about truth, how do you define what's true anyway? what's the basis of the truth you speak of? i'd like to read opinions from both sides=)
Truth is one of those elusive things people use to validate themselves.Usually people who talk about"I'm telling the Truth"are lying for sure!Kinda like the pimps in Mexico who say"you can buy my mother,shes a Virgin".IMO,absolutes are circumstantial...
Truth, and particularly 'The Truth' is actually little more than a buzzword for proselytizers. The only way we can advance is through 'objective knowledge' which is the body of results and derivations from theories which have been stated in falsifiable form and which have not yet been falsified.
Such knowledge might be true, but has not been proven.
The above deterministic model can be (must be) softened, or rendered slightly more 'fuzzy' allowing for statistical analysis in non-deterministic fields like biology, psychology etc. Nevertheless the basic criterion of falsifiability still applies, and we can say meaningful things about the probability of error in our theories.
Personal revelation, mysticism, ancient scripture, prophesy, etc may be interesting and may sometimes contain truth, but as they are unfalsifiable in their formulation, they belong strictly in the class of non-science, on the far side of a bridge of faith.
I have a theory of how to find truth, but I don't know if it's correct. I think a formula shoud be logical thought, faith in that logical thought, then the thoughts debated with others to find a logical truth.
how long is this thread going to drag on
How interesting ... we skip past that we have no answer for to reply to something we already admit is muddled in uncertainty.
Okay I'm jumping in. My theory is this. If God as people say want peace and goodness for all mankind, understanding there will be tragedy, why does he leave everyone in doubt. Prime example this forum. He could, will all his said to have powers ease everyones mind with one gesture. Then no one would have doubt. Surely he would want this, then people could unite with truth not fiction.
Yet he does nothing of the sort. Come have a Starbucks, talk over the clouds. People may argue but he speaks every day in the form of miracles. He also speaks everyday through the form of tragedy.
So show up or I'm not buying. To carry a bible under my arm, and call a man named Jesus Christ is a little far fetched. I am not without spirituality, however I am with doubt about a God that could easily clear things up if he existed and release the chase of faith.
Without God seems to be
Seriously, isn't everyone living without God?
It's not like they each really need his help. They live their life, with their own thoughts and by their own actions. So where does God play a factor?
Loneliness? Don't they have themselves or family?
Fear? What are they afraid of? Their own life, I don't get how you can be afraid of life. Unless you're fear is death. And, in that case, they are not really afraid of life, but afraid of death and what they leave behind.
Just a thought.
Yes, by far...too many people fear death. And, therefore they don't really understand their life.
Just another thought.
unfortunately too many live in the destination and miss the journey
The one putting those thoughts into your head.God is orchestrating this entire cosmos not only we humans on this planet.
God orchestrates this entire cosmos? Well let me play the fiddle as I sing, 'the wheels on the little yellow bus go round and round, round and round... lololol god inserts thoughts now... WOAH! HAHALOLOL!!!
So have you created these planets and stars and now move them around with such precision.Have you created yourself? So how can you say they are only your thoughts when you haven't made yourself.
Nothing was created, it has just always been. If there was no beginning there was no creator.
All you can achieve by opening this sort of discussion is nothing. You believe in a creator god. others might argue the big bang. Me, I dont buy either so you are picking the wrong guy.
Have you been around always or were you created a few years back?
Will you all ways be around or will you be destroyed in a few years time?
There is a creator and I have come across the Light like many others have.Because you haven't doesn't mean god doesn't exist.
My mum and dad created me, not god LOL!! you are a funny dude
Lets just skip to the meat of it. Why don't you tell me who created god.
That is why this super entity is called god, all comes from him , nothing creates god.
Nothing creates god. Sounds plausible LOL!!!! So who created nothing?
God is the basic fabric of this cosmos, a very fine Light love tissue pervading everything , is timeless, has no beginning and no end,super intelligent and man has connected with this super entity, or his real or inner self since ages,I did recently.
No beginning and no end. Thats what I said. Why argue then. Only difference is that you fail to see that the 'very fine Light love tissue pervading everything' is nothing compared to the very thick all consuming layers of evil maintaining the status quo.
1) Define exist CONSISTENTLY. Science doesn't deal in loose terms like god does with loose women. Science is a study that is objective and rational. Please define 'exist' in a RATIONAL manner so that it applies to ALL those items above which YOU say exist!
2) Be prepared to be slapped with a straight-jacket and shipped to an insane asylum.
If you don't want to go down the path of science, then you have 3 other choices:
1) Define 'exist' in logic. Then use a logic argument to show how the above items exist.
2) Define 'exist' philosophically. Then use a philosophical argument to show how the above items exist.
3) Define 'exist' religiously. Then use a religious argument to show how the above items exist.
The Rationale Fatfist and Mohi Here in this Thread is proving the non-existence of Supreme Entity who is God I wonder why you two have Gotten Here at the existence...
@ Fatfist how will you prove the non-existence of God... I am keeping my eye on your reply... Lets get into the meat of the thread not the other way around...
Ok...I'm gonna answer a question with a question. How do you prove something does NOT exist? Is that even possible? If a person doesn't know what a donut is, how can I convince them it's not sitting on my counter, when in fact it's not? I don't know just askin.
How sure it doesn't exist you have no proofs of the non-existence?
The Burden of Proof lies to the Atheists, show Proof of God's non-existence... The Theists are awaiting your witty, smart, sizzling and crisp answers...
AS in MINE, personally? Cuz they'll be waitin' a long time. I've got none this a.m. Too tired.
Excuse you sir. The BURDEN of PROOF is on the believer. They are the ONES trying to bring into reality, something that has already been defined as NOT real or doesn't exist in reality.
You want proof that God doesn't exist....READ the post I left for Stimp.
Many answers have been provided for you, some from a scientific perspective, all of which you've hastily and without any forethought dismissed.
Cult indoctrination is a powerful tool that has been honed over the centuries to decimate any hint of critical thinking, reason and rationale in a child growing up in such an environment.
This is the burden of proof all too evident in your posts.
Stimp- I keep trying to tell people, but they simply won't listen.
How do you prove something does NOT exist? By living in reality.
That simple. Reality exists. It exists free of independent thoughts, desires, will, or wishes. Reality is all knowable.
By 'all knowable', it means that we can define, measure or grasp, everything we have learned or created. Whenever mankind makes a new discovery, then reality anews from a new point and we move forward. It's called "objective" reality.
In case people want proof of what reality is- you are it. Your human consciousness grants you the ability to determine what is real and what isn't. Your conscience re-affirms whether or not something is real or not.
Should you try to bring something from outside of reality, into reality, then you're consciousness and your conscience will not be fooled, because those two things can't be fooled by the mind.
Why Believers can't see the truth in this statement ?
Well, we know the answer, don't we ?
The reason the can't see the truth in that statement is because it challenges their faith and they see it as a lie, so that they can justify to themselves that they believe.
However, with that said- the consciousness, conscience and subconscious can never be completely fooled or forced to convert, something that isn't real, to be real. And, this is basic biology of human nature, which can't be broken.
This whole thing reminds me of a conversation I had with my mother. One year around my birthday, she called all upset. Okay "what's up, ma?" "Did you get my eCard for your birthday?" "no, I didn't". As the tears flow from her eyes and the voice quivers she says "Well, why didn't you tell me." WT#? I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING. How could I tell her I didn't get it when I didn't know of it's existence. I tried to explain that but you know mothers. She was so upset by that point, there was no reasoning.
and for those who have decided to make inappropriate judgements or decisions about who I am or what I believe in....I am not an atheist. I have my own belief system, but it certain doesn't mean I am an atheist. Sorry, to disappoint you (not you Cags...just "you" in general).
The Atheists will laugh at every answers the Theists might answer if they are asked about the existence of God... Because Atheists will use every trick in the book to discredit God...
But the Theists will rejoice when Atheists are asked of the non-existence of God...
Even the greatest Atheist Scientists cannot claim of the non-existence of a very Powerful Entity...
And so far this thread haven't induced any substantial answers of the Atheists to the thread's question, that is... How can you prove that God Doesn't Exist...
Conclusion: "GOD DOES EXISTS NO DOUBT ABOUT IT"
This thread was few days old already and no breakthroughs is whipped out by the Atheists...
I'm no longer posting in this thread in the days ahead as much as possible...
Because this thread already served its purpose...
Excuse me sir- I AM NOT an atheist or of any religion.
So, please refrain from labeling ALL non-believers into the category of atheism. It's absurd and it's an insult.
Yeah You are right... I already modify it Buddy, BTW, Have a nice day to the two of you... Stimp and Cags
I already offered proof that 'the biblical God' as we know it can not exist, but was ignored. Now, I do believe in God as a force of nature, so I won't discount that ... but with the argument I gave earlier ... either the biblical God doesn't exist, or he he is more human than we are - given to perform acts that are contrary to his own existence and purpose.
But that's okay ... refute the easy ones because they take far less energy. After all, it's real easy to say science isn't proof, but let's here religion say the Bible isn't true! the Bible creates a paradox that no religionist will touch, because they already know it's contradictory in their mind - so they call that part imagery ... but heck ... all the rest is true, right?
You're not looking for discussion or debate ... your looking for proof that God must exist, and when given strong evidence to the contrary you people go on debating with the ones basing their arguments on science (as you requested) which puts them in a no-win situation.
You can't absolutely disprove anything, but you CAN prove an unresolvable paradox exists, which debunks what is commonly believed.
So, keep debating with the scientists ... it's an easy win.
Which brings me to the point ... why would a believer (such as myself) basically state that God doesn't exist? I'm only saying God doesn't exist as people perceive God should. God is nature ... and in that sense God definitely exists. However, God is not this voyuer watching our every action and passing judgment upon us. If he was doing as many believed then his responses wouldn't be so mixed in the Bible.
The funniest thing is ... my God is stronger than your God, as no one can disprove nature. Now, the God in the Bible ... too many paradoxes to consider it all true.
Ah well, continue on and keep ignoring me ... ignorance is bliss.
From the descriptive measure you use to provide proof of GOD, which is your perspective and I will not argue, because You can label Nature however you please. Mankind call Nature, Nature.
I will not contest Nature's existence, because if it wasn't for Nature's existence, human life couldn't exist, as it does.
I bow to you Master Yoshi.
Your perspective is proper, as long as, you don't think Nature itself is a guiding source to be listened to.
Such, as a higher authority, who commands humans to obey.
Otherwise, I'm good with your position.
But, one question- How do you see Nature? Does just exist or did something or someone create it?
I'm just curious about your perspective on that, if you don't mind. I'm always a sucker for good conversation Yoshi. But, it's someone of these other people who are completely out of whack and really don't understand life or their own beliefs.
Thank you for a well thought out post.
I see nature as a set of cosmic laws we are only just beginning to understand. Do I see nature as a being ... no. Do I see nature as creation ... yes. Do I see nature as something we need to understand better ... absolutely!
We can't create stars, black holes, or planets ... but nature can ... for that we should be in awe and reverence. As it is, we do enough damage to our planet out of our ignorance of how nature works. By learning more, we could fix up what we messed up and go on to make many great discoveries!
Nature is a force that will always dwarf any of our accomplishments, which is why I see it worthy of being considered as the God of creation ... though in this presence of form it's not the kind of God that answers prayers.
For the God we all seek, we need only look within. For internally we are capable of good or evil and we are free to chose at any moment which path we shall follow. To think there is a heavenly force ready to punish us for any misguided step is crucial for many to perceive the need for everyone to get along, but there are quite a few of us capable of moderating our behaviors on our won.
The only means by which to resolve the God paradox is to see God as a belief and realize that those who believe in God give him substance, thus making him real (to them).
Nature is the most powerful force in the universe ... as God is proclaimed to be an all powerful force, then does not nature fit the definition?
As for what created nature ... I don't see nature as having a creator. Nature is a series of laws that interact to create everything around us. As such, while nature is constantly changing and in motion, these changes are brought upon by the laws of nature and are not able to be changed or modified without the use of another law.
As an example ... gravity ... A rock dropped from your hand will always strike the ground, unless another force counteracts the fall. Example ... if you drop the rock on a spring, the spring could shoot it back into the air.
I hope that helps to explain my thoughts a bit.
Now this kind of post make sense...
Laws of Nature also encompasses all other Laws in Science... Being a rationalist I see your view as God as the Nature itself...
God created the universe and everything on it with this Laws, in contrast to some beliefs that God is nothing but to worship him with faith is half truth half lies, God worked in wonderful ways and through the wonders of Nature you'll see his existence... I hope I'm right though...
That is a very crucial point, yoshi.
How can somebody say that this "God" concept (an idea in people's minds) is directly mapped to a supernatural object that is supposedly part of reality as described in the OT, NT, and Koran?
They can't! If they say it's true, then they belong in the insane asylum along with the idiots who claim that gravity is some type of a being. Nobody knows what any of these basic imponderable effects of our reality are: gravity, electricity, magnetism, light, matter, energy, space. And we experience their "effects" every single day. How the hell can anyone say there is some supernatural effect called "God", and they know "Him", he has a "son", and he has given them some type of truth they call absolute?
If any such supernatural "thing" is possible, it certainly isn't called: God, Jesus, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, etc. Nor does it have any "truth" to give you. It couldn't care less about you or whether you were naughty or nice. It probably couldn't even think.
The herding mentality of humans has always made them pursue imaginary beings into oblivion. That's their faith, and that's fine. But that's where the party ends. Once they say this imaginary being is "real", then they shouldn't complain when other people respond to them.
Yes, I would agree. It demonstrates clearly that the mind of an immature child can remain intact well after childhood.
It also demonstrates that those same minds will believe anything they want to believe despite facts to the contrary.
I am new to this but would you give the FACTS to the contrary that proves that God does not exist?
All religions are created so they can't be disproved because they are based on faith. YOU need to ask why YOUR religion is the right one and YOUR god is the right one.
Organized religion was created about 2,500 years ago with Buddhism. Juddiasm and Christianity came about around 2,000 to 1,500 years ago then Islam, Mormons and the rest.
But humans have been around for a good 15,000 years. So why wasn't religion part of those people's lives?
Simple. Religion is man-made.
But since all religions are based on faith (great way to build a company, btw) you can't prove or disprove it. Funny how that works, huh?
Actually, it looks like Buddhism and Judaism was created around 3,000 years ago. Again, if a god existed and was always there, why didn't he show himself/herself/itself 15,000 or 20,000 years earlier to the humans living around that time?
There is no way around those facts. Religions we know today were created WAY after humans existed.
Religion is as old as mankind and there is no such thing that life as we know it has been around 15,000 or even earlier than that. That is a myth that no history can account for.
Actually there is a good argument that we became self aware around 30,000 years ago.
We are talking archaeology, anthropology and geology though - not history.
Once you define this "God" using positive predication and reify it into reality, it is extremely EASY to prove that it is impossible for such a "thing" or whatever, to exist. This is why all theists and theologians refuse to provide such unambiguous definitions. It is this failure to define the terms that make or break one’s argument that allows people to get away with murder.
If you don't define it, OR, "attempt" to define it using a sleight of hand we call NEGATIVE predication, then it only remains as a concept in your mind. Then you must concede that it is only part of your faith. It's that simple!
I don't quite get you but you are missing the point that the God, the God of the Jews, that we say created the Universe can not be defined and I don't deny the fact that I know He exists only by faith. This God of the Jews I am talking about, no human or creature can stand in from of Him. it is just that complicated!
(can not be defined and I don't deny the fact that I know He exists only by faith.)
Now we're getting somewhere. Everybody has faith in some type of proposition. You admit you can't unambiguously define this concept in order to reify it into reality. So you have "faith" it somehow exists, without even defining the word "exists". And that's ok. You have faith. I don't have any issue with that. Thanks for the response.
The point is: we can't disprove something that cannot be defined!
We can't disprove that "skhgyejblah" is not some type of supernatural whatchamacallit.
If you can not disprove it, then it exists! And if you disagree with that what is your argument?
Don not ask for definition. We are not babies here. I don't see how I have been cornered at all. A proven truth???????? That does not sound right. There is too much air in that phraseology. An enraged Pilate asks Jesus once: What is truth? after He told him He came to earth to testify to the truth. Perhaps, even if all "truths" could be proven they would have nevertheless be discarded because they just will not fit some brain harness.
Can you prove true love scientifically?
There is some confusion here. Since you made 2 posts, I didn't realize you were talking about disproving the existence of "skhgyejblah". I already answered that question. There is nothing to prove or disprove either way when dealing with concepts.
(Can you prove true love scientifically)
Science is not in the business of proving anything. Science only explains. Love and relationships and fatal attraction is an issue for psychology. Ask them for proof.
Actually, "skhgyejblah" exists because you've just created "it". We are not just sure about its attributes.
Yes! It exists as a concept in MY mind. The fact that you referred to it, also proves that it now exists as a concept in YOUR mind.
If I write a bible about it and herd a bunch of people together to believe in it, then it will exist in more people's minds.
The point is: It is not defined. The word supernatural is not defined either and cannot be defined. So there is NOTHING to prove or disprove. Get it now?
I am sorry to say I still do not get it. How could it still be a concept in your mind [not mine] when you are looking at it in front of your eyes on your monitor? If you can create something it is no longer a concept. Have you ever read the Bible, though? I am just curious. Because if you did you would not have posted that anology.
(Have you ever read the Bible, though?)
Yes, this is the problem. I read the whole bible.
Maybe you just read the pages and the letters with no understanding.
The Bible is a point a view of the universe from a Jewish perspective. You are free to disagree with it but it is a compelling story if you can get it. You may choose to believe that everything around you came from a Big Bang or any other theory. That is fine. But if you were to make a critical choice based on what makes sense not what is logical logical among all other "explanations" to account for our world, which one will you pick?
Have you ever read Genesis 1 and try to make sense of it? It is very illogical and nonsensical because it is beyond our understanding. It makes sense to my brain because it is the most sensical alternative to the disorderly Big Bang theory. But I still csn not grasp it though.
Go Back in time to Babylon under Nebuchadnezzar,for example, and tell people you could land on the moon or fly from Iraq to Jerusalem? How would that generation receive your presentation? You would have to prove it to them but you know for yourself you're not crazy. Because you have witnessed it. And others have also. Now it is up to them to accept or reject your testimony. However they may feel about it will not change your assurance that you do know the certainty of the things you have spoken to them.
It is pretty cynical for example to say that Moses did not feel the power of that God that lead the Jewish people out of Egypt from slavery. It makes no sense that in order for you to believe it they would have to go back to Egypt for another 400 years and somehow get another Moses to be born and lead them again out of Egypt. Imagine repeating these events again and again whenever someone like you chose to put himself in denial mode!
Then by faith I accept the story and every other thing in it because I choose to and because the Jewish people live among us to prove and history talks about it.
But again you need that missing piece that will make it click to unlock your understanding. To find that key you have to read the bible again as you would let yourself taken into the story.
Imagine you go see the Matrix or the Dark Night and you dispute every single scene of the movie. What is your point? If you don't get it you probaly eould have to go back again and rewatch the movie by paying more attention to details...
People of old who met with the presence of the Jewish God say it is a dreaful experience thet brings death. if you would want to relive their experience you would not be able to anyway because you would be dead.
Faith is to believe and accept the heritage of the experience of the Jewish people, which happens to make sense to me instead of the point of view of Buddha or the Greek mythology or else.
My choice and your choice will not annul the truth. It will remain truth. As presented by the Jews. That their ancestor witnessed the power Of God who therefore must exist unless you also want to deny History.
I think you may be right. Reading the whole Bible from front to back is definitely NOT a good idea.
I wish somebody had directed me to read from a set of cherry-picked versus so it could have made more sense to me. I am willing to have another stab at it.
alright...Cags...I can prove there is a God, in two ways
1. I fell off my horse and broke my damn rib last week....if Adam hadn't given a rib of his own for women, I'd have one less and therefore, probably wouldn't have broken that very one
-- AND --
2. My bro-in-law had perkoset at thanksgiving and slipped me a few so I could get through it all. And I said, "thank you, there IS a god."
I'm not sure how much more you need
It's nice to see that you give credit for what others do to God.
How very moral of you. Interesting thought tho.....
I need proofs Buddy not discussion that is the goal of this thread...
You are perfect to your opinion and thank you for saying I'm a very moral person at least other people done that for me hehehehe even in thoughts...
No Proofs Still...
I thought the atheists here are highly logical but I am seeing otherwise, I hope they are not like rats as they escape when cornered...
I hope they're not...
Your funny reactions will prove nothing...
What do you need proof of? Just curious.
I've been here all day and already posted my thoughts. If you're not willing to read through the entire thread, that's not my fault.
I don't necessarily need to repeat myself, that's for sure. You missed the party.
Party is over. Have a nice day now.
And, just curious....so I have to ask.....What makes you think ADAM was a real person?
Religion teaches- 'MIME, conscience and subconscious'
What does that boil down to? Control.
They want you to be mimic(obey and follow without question), use your conscience and listen to your subconscious.
However, what NO ONE does not realize is that to do the first "MIME" is completely against one's nature of life.
The conscience will tell a person that they are not right, by following others commands about how to live. The conscience knows 'god' isn't real and it knows it's not right.
If anyone could prove the existence of God,then God has not existed.The majesty that this notion of God conveys proves to be too much for our finite mind to grasp. We can't even grasp His Science and our science can not capture Him and even duplicate the Deeds we attribute to Him. One is being the Designer of our unreachable and vast Universe that our science is unable to explain and map and contain and even explore because our lifespan is too short... Which one of our sciences can duplicate the making of a man with all his intricates from dust?
God asks us to just start by believing He exists in order to prove His existence. Spiritually. I think that is what is called faith. And once He accepts you and you act as He tells you to then you will want to meet Him because God does not make sense to anybody. You will never be able to grasp His wisdom and power. God wants you at a local level to love your enenmy and cater to your enemy and pray for your enemy! Does that make any sense? That enemy can be anything you can think of like someone who robs you of your spouse or child or one that is dear to you...
Why would I ever want to love my enemy? He dares to tell me I am not better than my enemy! And if I think I am better than my enemy that I am a liar and that He seeks the humble to translate His care to the others. Or I can be content with myself and forfeit the chance to ever get to meet Him and therefore have the fate of a tree or an animal or any creature that is deemed to be erased from the universe forever.
I mean it's cool if you want to talk to and believe in something you'll never see, touch or feel. But there is much greater things in life for me than chasing ghosts and mythical beings.
"Ennemy" is spelled "enemy" btw.
Hey, Mr Webster, "enemy" ifs french for "ennemi"].
Then you don't believe in love.
If you say you believe in love because you can feel love, people can feel God too. But not anyone can feel God specially if you shut yourself up. A God that you can see and touch at this time can never or would never be a God. This kind of God would have ceased to exist if you could ever handle it.
Perhaps, your idea of God is different from the God I am talking about. I am not talking about an idol-like god like an image of Buddha or virgin Mary or an animal or a sculpture made by one of us. Those things are ghosts and mythical beings.
Either way, you spelled enemy wrong lol And this is an English speaking forum.
I don't have an idea of a "god." I don't believe in anything of the sort.
It seems you are "feeling" your "god" as mother earth. You are feeling the powers of the Universe, not some magical being in the sky.
The spiritual powers of the Universe are far greater than any "spirit" or "god" structure that humans create.
You meant to say an English Grammar forum because the spoken English is different from the written English. Ain't that right?
And while you don't want to chase ghosts and mythical beings you're talking about "The spiritual powers of the Universe are far greater than any "spirit" or "god" structure that humans create". What's up with that? I am not quite following your thought process! It seems a little bit contradictory to me.
You're such a joy, Cagsil
The suspense is killing me....
Keg of Pumpkinhead Ale. Check.
and the straws
Hey Cagsil, start something new....
And, btw- the thread itself is a joke.
Proof already exists that god doesn't exist. But, it's the people who refuse to see it.
Either way, now isn't a good time to talk about it, because like I said, I've already given my comment.
But, thanks for playing. I'm outta here. Enjoy.
Shane....come back...come back....Shane!
Oh, these kids.......
Nope.... I dont think anyone can possibly prove that god doesnt exist. Good investigation and well thought out. x
I can prove he doesn't exist. But, no one wants to believe me.
Yo- PUNK! Yeah, YOU!
I'm not an atheist. Calling me an atheist is a direct insult.
I have NO religious belief or religion affiliation. Got it.
So, in essence, what you're telling me is that what you are really saying is that you are alone.
Hmm....interesting. But, not surprising.
wow.. he called you a punk.... kewl! It must be something to do with the wool dye. hehehe x
Your Brit humor is so different from what I hear all the time. Thanks a bunch, Shaz. No offense intended at all.
I am imagining a sheep with dyed wool, spiking up dancing to 'rock the casbah' by the Clash. Wow... how cool is that!? x
Holy Crap! That has to be the best thing I could be doing right now!
I do believe you are right my Happy Hippy friend(bows)
Oh.. I think there was a reference to a hill earlier? Well the spelling of Capitol was wrong it is CAPITAL and I live near a hill, here in Glastonbury - not a capital btw ... it is the Tor. Monks were chucked off it for being catholic, me thinks? Sad but true. I hope we dont start getting into sheep... lol x
I dont want to be in the middle of bolts of lightening... happy hippy shaz just believes in looooooooooove! Whether God is behind this, I will await my death to find out. *singing madonnas ... life is a mystery... everyone must stand along... I hear your voice and it feels like........ home!* Prayer by Madonna. x
aww cagsil... I would love to read another one of your hubs about it .. why waste it in the forum? x
I already posted my answer to this thread. But, no one wants to believe it. So, I leave to them to figure out.
As for the Hub- I have a 3-part arrangement coming out, each will be linked to the other, because there was too much information to put inside ONE Hub.
They try, however.....
Lightening has to strike somewhere?
whyare you asking us to, doubts within?
It's like asking if you still beat your wife?
What does that got to do with anything? Explain, for us ignorant people.
how can I prove God doesn't exist when not one person on this planet can prove that he did this thread sucks but I'm game to go at it again if you want to. Still awake, it is after all late, maybe fell asleep reading
I believe if we envision ourselves with long tails......
is capitol hill the capitol of the united states? I always wanted to know
Yes, the Capitol Building is in Washington D.C. which is the capital of the United States.
Because, the Capitol Building is there, as well as, Congressional House and The President Office- The White House.
These things I think are within a 5 mile range of one another.
I'm not exactly sure.
well thats what you said, but why is it called capitol if it isnt the capitol?
never mind I have to attend to my nails, thanks anyways kiss
304! and 75 posts to go yeh for me
hey! think i can make 4000 - im bringing back addicts post
You don't know everything? Oh, this undoes a great portion of my sparring material......
Her nails, Cags, her nails....
guys can we prove that god spelled backwards is dog?
That is reasonable.
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