How and Why Did Satan turn Ugly?

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   Lady Guinevereposted 10 years ago

   How and Why Did Satan turn Ugly?
   
   Satan was the most beautiful angel in God's Kingdom.  Now it is depicted with grossly looking features, red and has a forked or arrow ended tail and is meaner than anything on this earth.  So why did it change all of a sudden in the Bible?  It wasn't because he sinned because Angels cannot sin.  Was he a she before the scholars translated that Bible and due to the FACT that they could not possibly had a female other than Lilith and Eve in it it had changed from female to male?

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   JMcFarlandposted 10 years ago

   Historically spreading,  it's because the christian church took a few pagan gods with horns,  a spiked tail - think of the image of a mythological faun - and changed the image of Satan to match.   If you're looking for a book that can explain the ransomed and evolution of Satan throughout history for several thousand years,  I would recommend "the origin of Satan" by scholar Elaine Pagels.  Also of note,  the biblical description didn't change.    The public image of him did.   It's an interesting read.

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      Rod Marsdenposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Good answer.

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   Snøwmanposted 10 years ago

   Satan wasn't an angel like you describe. One that's perfect and never sins. He was a premortal spirit. He had not yet lived his earth life and still had a choice to become an angel or a devil. He was one of the more righteous spirits at first, but he rejected God's plan and took a third of the premortal spirits with him.
   
   Why is Satan depicted as ugly with horns and a tail? There's nothing in Scripture that says this, but my opinion is that we have tried to turn him into a fictional character so people won't believe he exists. I think that image of Satan was influenced by Satan. After all, one of his greatest tricks is convincing us that he doesn't exist.

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      JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sorry,  but that's historically incorrect.   The horns and a tail were popular in the dark and middle ages,  and people were terrified of the devil and his witches,  not to make him a mockery. This image was encouraged by the church.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The Bible says that he was one of God's best Angel and now you are saying that he isn't.  Whose lying, you or the Bible?

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      Snøwmanposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      I said he isn't an angel like you described an angel as not being able to sin. He was an angel and a very good one, but he rebelled against God's plan and fell.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Somewhere in Biblical teachings Satan was beautiful.  You did not answer my question nor read my explanation.  He could NOT have sinned or he would not have been an angel period.

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      somethgblueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      His Story is usually one man's version of the truth and based on American his-story alone is filled with falsehoods. Consider American his-story told by a Native American, not such a rosy picture is it?
      Satan tried to help us, TPTB want us as slaves.

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   alancaster149posted 10 years ago

   The Church needed to create a 'fall guy' to demonise, who lost his good looks because of his greed etc. It wouldn't have been able to demonise him if he had been ugly in the first place, everybody might have felt sorry for him and that would've been counter-active.
   As it was they only succeeded in creating reactionary devil-worshipping cult groups who based their idols on woodland satyrs. This was Roman Christian versus Greek pagan mythology (remember there was a schism in the Middle Ages between the Western and Eastern church hierarchies).
   Politics.

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   The Examiner-1posted 10 years ago

   Perhaps it had to do with the heat from the fire down in Hell.
   
   Or perhaps it was due to the mere fact that, over time, revenge - emotionally and spiritually - took its toll on the face and body.
   
   Besides, who decided that Satan was the most beautiful angel in the first place?

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   CJStoneposted 10 years ago

   The Voice of the Devil: from the Marriage of Heaven and Hell by William Blake
   
     All Bibles or sacred codes have been the causes of the following Errors:—    
     1. That Man has two real existing principles, viz. a Body and a Soul.      
     2. That Energy, call’d Evil, is alone from the Body; and that Reason, call’d Good, is alone from the Soul.      
     3. That God will torment Man in Eternity for following his Energies.      
     But the following Contraries to these are True:—      
     1. Man has no Body distinct from his Soul; for that call’d Body is a portion of Soul discern’d by the five Senses, the chief inlets of Soul in this age.    
     2. Energy is the only life, and is from the Body; and Reason is the bound or outward circumference of Energy.      
     3. Energy is Eternal Delight.      
   
     Those who restrain Desire, do so because theirs is weak enough to be restrained; and the restrainer or Reason usurps its place and governs the unwilling.      
     And being restrained, it by degrees becomes passive, till it is only the shadow of Desire.      
     The history of this is written in Paradise Lost, and the Governor or Reason is call’d Messiah.      
     And the original Archangel, or possessor of the command of the Heavenly Host, is call’d the Devil or Satan, and his children are call’d Sin and Death.      
     But in the Book of Job, Milton’s Messiah is called Satan.      
     For this history has been adopted by both parties.      
     It indeed appear’d to Reason as if Desire was cast out; but the Devil’s account is, that the Messiah fell, and formed a Heaven of what he stole from the Abyss.      
     This is shown in the Gospel, where he prays to the Father to send the Comforter, or Desire, that Reason may have Ideas to build on; the Jehovah of the Bible being no other than he who dwells in flaming fire.      
     Know that after Christ’s death, he became Jehovah.      
     But in Milton, the Father is Destiny, the Son a Ratio of the five senses, and the Holy-ghost Vacuum!      
     Note.  The reason Milton wrote in fetters when he wrote of Angels and God, and at liberty when of Devils and Hell, is because he was a true Poet, and of the Devil’s party without knowing it.

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   somethgblueposted 10 years ago

   According to my research Satan got his bad name from the Illuminati, he was a lieutenant in what is known cosmically as Lucifer's Rebellion. Lucifer tried to jump start humanities evolution by giving them the knowledge of the tree of life, by awakening the Serpent of Light or Kundalini in Adam and Eve.
   
   Because Satan was the spiritual governor of Earth at that time and was trying to introduce benevolent spiritual concepts into humanities life principles, The Powers That Be at that time felt that the best way to bring down his organization was to infiltrate it and give it a bad name.
   
   So they went about describing Lucifer and Satan as evil and showing humanity that everything about them was evil, blaming them for wars, pestilence, murder, starvation and all manner of bad deeds.
   
   Over thousands of years these stories eventually made it into the Bible and the rest is his-story. No good deed goes unpunished.

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      JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Satan is lucifer.   Satan is a title (the accuser),  lucifer is a proper name.

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      alancaster149posted 10 years agoin reply to this

      This sounds like a power struggle between the CIA, KGB and MI5... Maybe Smersh is in there somewhere - where does 007 fit in?

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      CJStoneposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      "Lucifer" refers to the morning star, Venus.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      So was Jesus known as "the morning star".

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      somethgblueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Sanat Kumara is the God of Venus, more accurately the ruler of Venus and he came to Earth during the Fall from Grace 4.5 million years ago to try and get humanity back on the proper spiritual path, he failed.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      somethngblue Is that from Sumerian texts?  If not from where?

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      somethgblueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      The Gnosis and the Law, which describes the spiritual history of mankind starting 7 million years ago. Myth and legend are created to distort the truth and spread disinformation. Satan was a minor player in a huge Galactic drama, much like Judas.

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      Lady Guinevereposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      somethngblue, Thank You so much and I will find it and read it.

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      somethgblueposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      Consider a War for our souls, the good guys lose.
      
      The winner wanting to keep us as their slaves and ignorant, paints a picture that the good guys are evil and generation after generation keep telling us the good guys are evil and we believe them.

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   Lybrahposted 10 years ago

   Angels can most definitely sin.  Satan turned evil because he desired to usurp God's throne, and his arrogance and pride got the better of him.  He also convinced about a third of the other angels to side with him, and then tempted some of them into creating the nephilim.  Satan is portrayed today in comics and pictures as having an ugly appearance because everything he now stands for is ugly.   Also, God withdrew His radiance and love from Satan when he fell, so he lost his beauty.

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      JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      You know that story comes from jewish mysticism and isn't anywhere in the Bible,  right?

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      Lybrahposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      No, it's mentioned in the NT somewhere, I cannot remember the exact verse where it talks about how Satan was once so beautiful, but fell from heaven like a bolt of lightning, or something.

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      JMcFarlandposted 10 years agoin reply to this

      That passage is in the old testament,  and it's taking about the king of Babylon,  who was mentioned by name just a couple verses earlier.   You're believing a story that isn't even in the Bible.

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   lone77starposted 10 years ago

   I suspect the idea of Satan becoming "ugly" is only a misunderstanding, like "wrath of God."
   
   God is love, not wrath. The effect of "wrath" is a combination of human sin and the laws God laid down colliding.
   
   Satan is a servant of God, using his/her skills to challenge and test us as he did with Balaam and Job.
   
   Gender has many meanings. Softer attitudes are said to be feminine, but they have nothing to do with female Homo sapiens. Angels have both kinds of attitudes, but none of the genitalia of animals.

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    cjhunsingerposted 10 years ago

    Lady Guinevere--It is a difficult question if one accepts the premise. I believe that the god you refer to is all-knowing and this would be the deity that created all angels, all life and all that is existence. Therefore, one has to accept the fact that this god created this angel to become this devil and that the description of him would be as it is.
    Now if he is not an all-knowing deity, allowing for "freewill" then he/she or it is not a god. The question then is mute.
    Now if this angel/devil existed how could scholars make a sex change and what evidence do you have, other than belief that such exists? But I am with you. I think that females should be as devilish as a male and, in terms, of the feminist agenda I think that females should be better at it than males and I guess that translates to a greater evil. Does that make you feel better. I feel better now knowing that what I surmised is true. Thank you for that.

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