What makes the more conservative, dogmatic, traditional, &/or fundamentalist Christian
view Atheists/Agnostics in a less than positive light? Please state your reasons.
There is only one realistic reason; Years and years of unopposed training and practice usually begun as a child. Even at this point in time if faced with factual, provable truth, the believer will stick to his/her beliefs no matter what.
It's simple mind control our learned religious leaders have mastered over the millennia. They claim to have all the answers and back up their performances with all the Broadway theatrics, magnificent buildings, practiced stage shows, holy this and holy that, that seemingly corroborates every word they say even though they know nothing more than you or I.
It's a very simply method of marketing. Works too doesn't it?
Craig, your first paragraph nailed it! Children are usually indoctrinated into that system from birth and it's very difficult for facts and reason to make any difference in that person's mind. I know from experience.
Like RTB, I was also indoctrinated with Christian stuff. My family still practices that mind control to this day. What is it that makes some of us wake up and see the truth? and others never do?
Some of us REALLY wake up to see religion for the toxic inanity it is. Others KNOW this but prefer to remain in their delusional psychotic devotion to religion. Many people are religious addicts but refuse to acknowledge it!
People may be addicts under another imperfect humans opinion, which is not God's opinion. Reference Bible Isa 55:8 “For the thoughts of YOU people are not my thoughts, nor are my ways YOUR ways,” is the utterance of Jehovah. .
He sees the heart.
I did not grow up in the Church, nor did anyone around me believe. I did not come to religion through a crisis. I came to faith through relentless study. I'm not the only one. Many great thinkers set out to disprove God and decided they couldn't.
In answering any of your questions I try to , but your choice in words are a challenge, since I do not consider myself any of the titles you chose.
But rather a person be Atheist or Agnostic , we all have something in common ,and that is life and we share this planet as nieghbors , I believe that we all have different backgrounds that mold our beliefs and standards, and many times that is the only truth we know, but as we become in Adult hood we should be able to filter and determine the right and wrong of certain beliefs. We can not do this on our own ,there is help.
But many refuse it.
I am surly convince in truth that there is a knowledge higher then humans, the one who keeps the planet tuning on its axis, who keeps the sun shinig for our warmth,and the moon for our light ,and balance of the earth,
The earth produces our needs daily because he allows it. Reference Bible Mt 5:45 that YOU may prove yourselves sons ofYOUR Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise upon wicked people and good and makes it rain upon righteous people and unrighteous.
He determines who those people are from the heart ,We can not.
Every religion thinks they are right about God. In truth they cannot see beyond the conditioning that they have bought into or that their parents forced on them. Every religion is against total freedom. That's why all of them are trying to pull people into their church. What's wrong with freedom from all religions?
Freedom from religious organizations is what we desperately need but before we can cure the common cold, the germs that cause this devastating illness must be eliminated, Keep your money in your pockets. That's a guaranteed cure...
trucidus, I appreciate this truth that many will experience the journey of study,Php 1:9 And this is what I continue praying, that your love may abound still more and more with accurate knowledge and full discernment;
Accurate is important.
Often, they're raised that way. If they become that way later in life, a lot of times it's because they have a debilitating illness or accident, and as a result, very little control over their lives. Since they don't know what comes after death, they'd rather play it safe and be conservative.
I was an atheist until I had an experience with God. So I'd have to say to you that a lot of people have not. Some who are labeled "Christian" haven't had that experience either because they are nominal in their beliefs. So a Conservative is someone who's experience is not nominal.
Just as pagans have their contrived gods so many religions bolster theirs. But I believe there is one true living God as I also believe there is one true living enemy of souls called Satan. Satan has one many battles in destroying faith in the true God. All the battles he's one find their source in the selfishness of the person who wants to go their own way.
I believe you should go the way you want. I defend you in that effort. So defend me in my personal choice to go a different way also. That way we can both show some respect for each other.
Wonderfully well addressed, I appreciate you sharing your point of view, and I so agree with you that not all people have experienced what others have.
So we can not judge people all the same ,like a doctor can not treat all his patients the same.
Well, this is a loaded question really, but I just had to answer. Many fundamentalist Christians view a lot of people in a "less than positive light." I believe that are completely undermining their own faith. The first four commandments are about how to love God, the last six are about how to love your neighbor.
Positive precepts (with the exception of love) do not hold universally valid. That is to say, there is nothing you should do (with the exception of love) in all cases. only negative precepts hold valid... Thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, etc. If one would rather die than commit evil, then one never need commit evil. This is a point of confusion among many fundamentalists. They think that because one should never commit evil, they can easily judge those around them.
The reason I wanted to answer this question was to point out that what makes religion great is not errors of wars and inquisitions, it's that broken men and women get to participate in His mission. I did not come to faith through crisis. My parents did not force it on me. In fact, everything around me points me away from faith. At the end of the day however, after searching the world for a cure to the "religious cancer" myself, I join the ranks of many before me. St. Augustine, C.S. Lewis, Einstein... With careful thought and sincere seeking, you will find the answer. The truth is there... It's the heart you must find it in.
I'll leave you all with one question... What is it that makes the atheists and agnostics view us Christians in a less than positive light?
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