Who do Atheists feel the obsessive need to interject their vitrol and arrogance into any topic involving God, or Religion?
Cannot Religionists discuss their beliefs without the anger and dis-respect of non-believers?
Do they really think that sniping and denying gets them anywhere, or contributes to the dicussion at hand in any meaningful way?
They run into a topic and make outragious assertions. Which I have yet to see ANY OF THEM BACK UP.
And then smile and pat one another on the back for what they percieve as brilliance, and wait their turn again to snipe.
You asked them a question in regards to what they are saying and they come up with any excuse not to answer it.
I think most of them just don't know half of what they talk about, and the rest just think they know.
I believe most of them are sad lonely people, with nothing better in their lives to do then harrassing people.
It must be a sad, lonely world for them.
I answered everything, and backed up everything
I always do !
And a lot of other hubbers as well. But you choose not to see, and offend everyone who doesn't think as you do.
you are the sad one.
I feel sorry for you !
As I said before :
So brainwashed and so short minded !
Perhaps, to respond in kind to the vitriol and arrogance your religion and god have expounded on mankind today and for many past centuries?
Did you just say the sky fairy exists? If it doesn't exist how can it spit vitriol and arrogance?
The world is a mirror to those who project grasshopper.
I think you just as well as I do know the answer to this question...the battle continues and i mean literally and spiritually.... some just refuse and rebel while others see it for what it really is and for this we will be laughed at here on earth... but who cares right this life is SHORT so I can hang if u can hang
my question is this.. non believers dislike God so much but none of them can answer the question as to WHY the insist on coming into religon forums?? they dont believe so why in the world do they CARE what believers are talking about?? honestly i know in my life things I dont care about I dont pay any attention to.... so there can only be two answers here... one they either care in some way which would make them a liar and too stubborn to admit this or two they just like to pick fights... immaturty rings true through ones actions and words. people who like to pick fights I have found either like it because they were taught this way of living or they are unhappy... unhappy people embrace these kinds of things because its their only sense of understanding things... people who are happy do not subject themselves to things that cause stress or even become the cause of stress... or maybe they are just bored.... but once again who cares. they are gonna do what they want. let them come into religious forums it only shows they must care enough to enter them....
Funny that, most atheists I know are happy well adjusted people. Now I wonder why they would object to your hate filled way of seeing life though your religion. You are going to live forever in heaven, while those heathens are going to be tortured forever after they die. Seems logical. Believe what YOU believe or die horribly! Now why would anyone object to that? I know! We will just let them keep spreading their awful lies and say nothing.
happy people but u like to spot off at the mouth every chance u get and put others down for what they believe?? how is that happy and spreading happiness?? AND why subject yourself to something that annoys you???!!!!!
if it annoys you so much then why dont u go back to your happy life?? and be happy in it with a smile like this and then why would you want to turn that smile upside down by joining a forum you hate??
Just crazy I guess. Why would you bother defending your religion by posting over and over on the same subject trying to muster support for your hateful dying beliefs?
Why do you think you have the right to assume your outrageous beliefs on others?
Like it or not, you are a religious zealot, full of fear and hate. get over yourself!
once again my brother i humbly hug u and do not wish to argue... PEACE!
I am always peaceful!
If you do not wish to argue, I suggest you leave the forums or hope that the whole world agrees with every word you say...
The forums are about religion and beliefs, it does not all revolve around you believe it or not! !
then dont engage in those that disagree with you for the chance to FIGHT..... childish childish tsk tsk peace!
Sorry, I'm an atheist and I have to disagree with you on this one.
And also: I'm not here to harrass you.
Actually, I can say the same thing you said about religious people I know. They never want to answer the questions I have about religion, the only thing they want to do is say that you have to believe it, or else.
Come to think of it, I've seen more violence from religious believes (not only islamic, also christian) then from people convinced that no God exists.
And calling atheists obsessive is also a laugh, there are only a few atheist who I might consider obsessive, but there are a LOT of obsessive Christians and Islamists.
It's they're own guilty conscious that they are arguing with not us, we just happen to be their sounding board.
It is true my friend. Without that companionship of the Spirit it is awful lonely. HubPages, specifically the Forums, could be much more productive without some collectives tearing down those of us who actually have a faith.
Go find a religionist site and enjoy boredom for the rest of your life LOL
You won't cause you enjoy the fight, so don't complain when it is given to you
lol yeah thats as good as when you stated Russia won WWII.
None of you back anything up. NONE! thats another one of your lies.
And you can read all you want. If you do not comprehend then it was a worthless experience.
You peeps are lost.
In fact, the Russians (Soviets) don't call it World War Two, they refer to it as the "Victory War."
Actually for every one of them that does what you just said TMMason, there are 10 more that could care less and they never open their mouths.
I'm one of them, and after only a week here seeing all the mud slinging with any topic on here that has to do with beliefs, I'm not going to comment on any of them anymore.
I've got this thing called life I want to live, with or without a god. There is always a few on both sides that have a big mouth. Like anything, don't lump them all together.
You can catch me in the fun threads from now on. Bye!
Oh I'm not mad, don't get me wrong. I just find it all so silly and time wasting. Neither side is going to convert or make the other see their side. So why bother?
If you have fun doing it, and many seem to, then go ahead, knock yourself out. I just find it boring and a waste of my time. There are so many other fun threads here to participate in, so that's what I'm going to do. Peace to all!
I like this version better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EntBFYOPIcE
Thanks BC. I cannot recall one answer to the dozens of science backed posts that religionists ignore, then they come here saying they offered "proof" which was ignored. The only "proof" I have seen here from religionists who get their "evidence" from their own book! No proof exists for any fairies fellas!
I have never said, I have "proof" of anything, I "believe", to be true.
My belief is based on faith.
Just like yours.
I have stated that the theories science has in regards to the, "Origins", "Of The Universe", and "Life", and the theories of "Evolution" and "Man Made Global Warming", are as unproved as the faith of any religinist live by.
In the end we all have faith in something, was my only assertion.
Yet all of you have stated that is wrong, but have not shown me why it is wrong.
But you have spouted your snipes and ill humor at me.
As I said though, that doesn't prove anything.
We all know a "Theory", is not a fact. Thus the term "Theory".
And I have never ran into a science thread and started an arguement, or made half cocked assertions to begin fights.
That is not how I work, E.
"Who do Atheists feel the obsessive need to interject their vitrol and arrogance into any topic involving God"
Are you saying every single time Atheists, when they are invited or have access to discussion on that topic, interject vitriol and arrogance?
Every single time?
"or made half cocked assertions to begin fights."
Funny but that looks like a pretty accurate definition of your opening post.
"Who do Atheists feel the obsessive need to interject their vitrol and arrogance into any topic involving God"
Purely designed to start a fight and a pretty unfair statement imho.
Well, in my case it is to try and explain to you why your religion causes so much animosity and wars. But - you do not seem to want to listen.
Just look at the condescending statements you make on a daily basis. People are telling you that this is offensive and hurtful. Buy you do not want to listen.
Why is that?
Do you start a lot of your topics with "So anyway, atheists, as a general rule, are an insufferable lot of jackasses..."
Because when you start topics like that, there's a certain desire in the people insulted in the opening line to live up to your expectations.
Actually no. But hell I am up for anything. Ill start one right now that begins... "So anyway, atheists, as a general rule, are an insufferable lot of jackasses..."
Anything I missed?...
Start your replies.
I will answer seriously.
No. Russia did not win WWII.
Is that better?
Have I stepped into the Twilight Zone? I thought The Soviet Union was with the Allies during WWII??
Although, I'll be the first to admit history isn't my strongest suit...I thought I had that one nailed down.
No, you guessed it correctly. I'm waiting to see if this is actually a 'wording' issue instead.
I hear it. I do seem to remember reading that the Soviet Union lost a TON of people during the war...so I suppose in that way it could be said they lost...but then, by that definition, *nobody* won. LOL
Cool argument LOL. For a sake of example, let' imagine Canada invades USA and manages to capture a significant part of its territory. Losing TONs of people USA manages to regain its territory, and occupy a half of Canada. Who won?
That is not the same kind of scenario on many levels. Your Paradigm includes two countries.
WWII involved much more. It was the strategic victories in Europe that forced the Germans to retreat to protect the homeland. The Russians marched barefoot and unopposed into Berlin.
Arthur, I think you will benefit from reading some non-American sources on the topic, of course if you are interested
I am interested and although I have not read any Russian versions of the war. I have read a lot of alternative views of the history.
OK, let's see then. By the time Americans landed in Normandy Russians re-captured almost all of their territory, and already entered Poland at least. May be more, this is just from the top of my head. They did have momentum. This does not really fit your model of helpless aboriginals not able of doing anything without advanced Americans stealing focus of German army
And no, they were not barefoot, America sent good boots
Africa, Italy, Greece all are all relevant as well. Did you get Hershey bars with the boots.
I think if Poland had allowed the Russians to march through their country to attack Germany when war was declared the war would have ended much earlier.
If France had taken the declaration of war seriously and fortified their country instead of petty political bickering. It would have been avoided.
If Belgium had not waited until the last minute to even consider a war well you get the point.
The Soviets had no reason to suspect the Nazis would attack them, they had a signed Pact with them at the time.
denno im wondering.. what exactly is that a picture of?
It all seems to be more complex Denno. Russia was preparing to invade Germany too, Hitler was just a couple of weeks faster. And frankly this pact seems to be a part of Stalin's preparation to invasion of Germany.
LOL "ifs" don't work in history I was told
Yes, Africa, Italy, Greece, and btw Great Britain itself definitely helped, yet the scope was quite different. I think one can easily find stats on German casualties on different fronts and compare them. This will give an idea on where the major action occured
And btw I did some quick lookup on soviet casualties during 44-45. Roughly 900000 killed. Hardly an unopposed walk to Berlin...
There was no military leadership in place Stalin removed them.
"The purge of the Red army in late 1930's removed three of five marshals (then equivalent to six-star generals), 13 of 15 army commanders (then equivalent to four- and five-star generals), eight of nine admirals (the purge fell heavily on the Navy, who were suspected of exploiting their opportunities for foreign contacts), 50 of 57 army corps commanders, 154 out of 186 division commanders, 16 of 16 army commissars, and 25 of 28 army corps commissars."
Read more: http://www.city-data.com/forum/history/ … z0cSakXGpy
That's a myth Arthur.
What he was doing is creating a perfect dictatorship, which worked like a well oiled machine. People that did not fit were removed, and if you go dig a bit further, you will find out that most of the marshals and generals you mentioned were plain criminals with specialization in mass murder of civilians - hardly a skill needed in real war.
If you are really interested in this part of the 20th century history, you will benefit from this book http://www.amazon.com/Chief-Culprit-Sta … amp;sr=1-1
Have fun reading
I have one for you.
http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Shall-Set-Y … amp;sr=1-4
The "allies" won world war II many countries involved.
During December, 1941, U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt devised the name "United Nations (UN)" for the Allies.
Yes, a matter of wording. But, the Soviets were on the winning side of that War, so, in effect, they did win WWII.
They were part of the "Allies". With British and American support to maintain their entrenchements.
Well, the Soviets did stand alone against the Germans in Eurasia while the British and Americans were building up for the Normandy invasion. Anglo-American equipment helped a tad, but Soviet production capacity and overwhelming manpower and Russian weather won the day in the end.
To the best of my knowledge it helped a lot, and not only equipment but food and clothes, too
Did it really? I just assumed it was American propaganda I was reading.
He-he, our Mason friend has very - umm - interesting views on history. We touched on this once already
Sorry to get back to the initial idea. But what I really hate about atheists is how they always make sweeping generalities about religious people and their beliefs.
Does it really matter exactly how they won?
Let's say Western Canada separates from Eastern Canada. Everyone in Eastern Canada then gets some kind of brain-fever and Eastern Canada resorts to old-school imperialistic military expansion, sudden attacking both Western Canada and the United States.
They kick the shit out of Western Canada, because the Easterners have most of the soldiers and equipment of what used to be Canada, and many times the population and production capacity. Then Eastern Canada gets steam-rolled by the Americans, and Western Canada recaptures all lost territory while Eastern Canada's attention is otherwise occupied. In fact, even though they've hardly got a military to speak of, the Westerns are able to capture a lot of territory that originally belonged to the Easterners because they are distracted with the larger threat.
Considering the two Canadian factions, who won?
"Why DO people share their opinions?" he asks in the mean spirited thread filled with opinions.
Come on Len, we are not mean spirited, we have quite a civilized discussion on a heated topic
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