The trinity in Christianity is: The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. God is the father, Jesus is the son, and the Holy Spirit is the helper or guide to help us walk our Christian paths.
StaR: My God! Religion has "ENGRAVED" this interpretation in ALL! Why don't Can't u see this is saying (even in English) that there are THREE Gods? You r the daughter, you r the mother, u r the wife, but is that your NAME?
It's not just that, the trinity insinuates that the father, the son and the holy spirit are all equal which is a very pagan idea.
Dan: I believe that the Father, the Son & Holy Spirit is ONE! Not equal, but ONE which is Scriptual!
Also Rod in that scripture he never said to satan , worship me , the Father and holy spirit.
He simply says the Father.
If people check Rev, the Holy Spirit is missing . Because it is not a person , but God’s active power to get things done.
K&T: How could the Holy Spirit be "missing?" GOD=HOLY=SPIRIT; JESUS JN 16:7 "IN MY NAME" Jn10:30 "I & the Father are "ONE!" How could HS be "missing?" What r u thinking? Who taught this? GOD is HOLY & SPIRIT so not "missing!"
This is true of title The Father , The Son, but the holy spirit is his active force of power he uses to get things done. If you notice it was only after they received holy spirit that they could speak in other languages without being educated in that day. Ac 2:3 And tongues as if of fire became visible to them and were distributed about, and one sat upon each one of them,
Also in Greek and Hebrew there is no such word as Trinity.
Actually it was created of a three headed pagan god.
which was accepted by church father's who included in their doctrines.
K&T: Amen! You're getting there! You can them Titles, but we are speaking of "GOD" Who operates in GLORIES! He is "I AM!" I hate to refer to HIM as "HE" for "IT" is not "MAN" but "SPIRIT!" However, in order to relate to "mere man," I do !
King James Version
Job 38:7 When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
Trinity does not exist here.
K&T: I Agree! Trinity DOES NOT EXIST anywhere in Scripture! Religion even baptize in the name of a "three headed pagan god!" Can't they "see" it is man-made & not according to Scripture under New Cov? Satan is LAUGHING! (Jn 10:10)
Norine did I tell you I was ? No
A matter a fact I never told you anything about that subject of my personal buisness.
So now you go as far a to lie and said I did.
Then why did you just ask me yesterday from a post was I ?
K&T: Man may say "it's my personal business," but not Script (I Pet 3:15)! Just asked if u had been baptzd in Jesus' name? No arugument, just asking "the hope of your faith." Not blvingin Trinity, yet being baptzd in Trinity contradicts! Make urs
The key words that let you know the Father and son are separate is the state of mind,
They have separate wills, like a Father may like
Steak, and son like fish.
Jesus is clear they have two different wills.
John 5:19 can not do a single thing
Sure "cannot do a single thing" because Jn 10:30 "I and the Father are ONE!" ONE SPIRIT (Father=allegory) SAME SPIRIT never been to earth (Son=allegory) Jesus Christ=GOD who came to earth (I Tim 3:16)! Father&Son=Allegory
II Cor 4:
Joh 5:19Therefore, in response Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to you, the Son cannot do a single thing of (his own initiative), but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever things that One does, these things the Son does also .
MY GOD! MY GOD! If Bible says ONE SPIRIT operating in MANY GLORIES one should stop "looking" as father & son (persons) or Trinity! We chg fm "glory to glory" as He does (I Cor 3:18)! U say u don't blv "Trinity" but have "Trinity" thinking (Pers
Dear Norine where is the holy spirit here. Ac 2:34For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD (Jehovah) said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Where is the holy spirit seat ? Holy spirit is power not a god.
K&T: Rd Jn 14:26 Father will send IN MY NAME (Jesus talking)! Jn 16:7 "I" REPEAT "I" will send" Now tell me Father & Son is NOT ONE SPIRIT?
Neither has a "seat!" Does SPIRIT need "seat?" Get Real! Spirit doesn't have a "hand" either means "r
We have acquired a "hardened heart" when it comes to the manifestation of the "TRUTH" in God's Word! Whatever you "MEDITATE" on, you become sensitive to and whatever you do not "MEDITATE" on, you become insensitive to!
Religion has "taught" us to acquire a "hardened heart" when it comes to the "...mystery that has been hidden from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints." (Col 1:26: I Cor 2:7; Eph 3:9.)
Society "follows" what "religion" teaches and wishes NOT to "go against the grain" for if ones does they are "labeled" an idiot, unlearned, even so far as "a fool!" John 5:44 says "How can you believe, who RECEIVE HONOR ONE OF ANOTHER, and seek NOT the honor that cometh from GOD only?" By this, "mere man" "would rather please man than God" (Gal 1:10; John 12:43; Acts 5:29) losing the opportunity for salvation! But that is Satan's job (Jn 10:10)
When you are "truly" seeking salvation, you must do as ABRAHAM did and as stated in Romans 4:19 "And not being WEAK in FAITH, HE CONSIDERED NOT HIS OWN BODY (MIND) now dead..." That is precisely what we have to do saints, "consider not our own teachings, traditions, religion," etc., but "WALK IN THE SPIRIT!" (Jn 4:23-24; Gal 5:16)
Phoenix, as far as your question is concerned, there is no such word "Trinity" in Scripture! As Kiss &Tales stated, "...it was created of a three headed pagan god." Unless you read the Scriptures "IN SPIRIT," instead of "the letter" only, you will continue to just "go along with the flow!" The Father, Son & Holy Spirit is THE GREATEST ALLEGORY IN SCRIPTURE!
Here comes the real craziness! GOD is a Spirit Who is Omnipresent! THE SPIRIT is beyond "mere man's" understanding! The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are ALL of God's GLORIES! Scripture was written so "mere man" could relate to a father, son and other glories (titles) men have yet they still can not relate to THE SPIRIT operating in ALL GLORIES while in every other place. THE SPIRIT (GOD/Creator/JESUS), Son (JESUS/Manifesation of Himself in the flesh, while remaining every place), and the Holy Spirit (JESUS/The Comforter whom He has sent to teach & guide us, while remaining every place)! Crazy? Not so, if "IN THE SPIRIT!"
Religion says "The Trinity" consists of three beings/persons. What? Three persons/beings? In the English langauage, that would make three gods! Col 2:9 says "For in him (JESUS) dwelleth ALL the fullness of the Godhead bodily!"
GOD is What He is, but JESUS is Who He is!
Norine that is what you believe I stand as what I believe ,
Joh 8:42 Jesus said to them: “If God were YOUR Father, YOU would love me, for from God I came forth and am here. Neither have I come of my own initiative at all, but that One sent me forth.
K&T: Allegory: So you could relate but still don't! If what u believe is true, then there r 3 gods; Big Daddy God w/little baby Jesus sitting on His right hand side & Holy Spirit floating around! Trinity!
Norine you do not have to be disrepectful even though you disagree we are still talking about God and the Son, all deserve respect
Jesus is not a baby , he is in Government power. And do not think he would appreciate you making fun of that .
K&T: He knows my heart! Not making fun, making u see that u "lower" His Glories for He is "I AM" in whatever Glory He desires, simultaneously, if He desires!
2Co 4:6 For God is the one who said: “Let the light shine out of darkness,” and he has shone on our hearts to illuminate them with the glorious knowledge of God by the face of Christ.
We are to learn and apply and help others
Not draw glory to us.
K&T: ALL Glory be to God! Don't underestimate Him by believing "Trinity!" He also said in Is 43:10"..before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be AFTER me."11"..and besides me there is no savior" (Jesus)! 12"saith the Lord, I am God!
Norine All this time I been posting to you
You should know I do not believe in a trinity.
But you who keep saying he Father himself,
Is saying they are. Because you keep saying God and the Son are the same.
Make yourself clearer. Please
K&T: U don't blv in Trinity? Then why were u baptized in the name of "the three headed pagan god" disregarding the NC Jer 31:33;Heb8:10;10:16 & baptism under NC Acts 2:38?
You are making your time about finding my beliefs as a target of criticism. That is not what Jesus was about, I do not inquire of things you alone dedicate to God nore do I demand answers to use against people as you have been doing do not post to me
K&T: Love u anyway! Hoping for ur salvation! Being baptzd in Trinity contradicts ur belief! I will pray (Eph 1:18)!
Dear Norine you just said it The Father will send, he did not say JESUS Will send,
Like A Letter Sent Through THE Post Office
The letter was sent by you, but the post office delivered, Through Jesus God works are done. Jesus is not God.
Because spirit -- god is spirit and they who worship him must do it in spirit and truth -- is the maker of all things spirit is father.
Because man means "mind able to comprehend all things" man's mind is the son seeking to know and do what it sees father do.
Holy mean "complete" and ghost means "having the power to appear and disappear at will and go through solid objects" -- Yoshua's entering the locked room of his disciples -- so reborn man who obtain the knowledge and power Jesus demonstrated are Holy Ghosts (John 14:12).
All three are in each one of us.
Eli:Trinity? All "THREE" are in each of us? What THREE? God is as water you said! Water can be snow, sleet, slush, vapor, ice, etc which are "glories" of water! So is God - GLORIES ("I AM") MORE than THREE! He is WHATEVER to get His Will accomplish
I said water without the "s" symbolizes water which has 3 phases, vapor, water and ice, not god. Spirit led (1 Jn 3:9) man becomes I AM THAT I AM because everything is lawful but we are not to become addicted to any (1 Cor 6:12 & 10:23)
I said GOD w/o "s" WHO functions in MANY "GLORIES," simultaneously if HE desires! Water has MORE "glories" than 3, so does GOD!
RELIGION has "twisted" u as well!
Eph 4:4-6 says "ONE SPIRIT" never "PERSONS!" When 1 LIES on Holy Spirit GOD calls "Blasphemy!" Don't think Holy Spirit is 3rd person of trinity - HE IS GOD! Where does that leave ALL who believe "TRINITY?"
Blasphemy-The unpardonable sin (Mk 3:29)!
Also notice Rod, as you read of the Edicts of Milan , you have this mixed, the worship of the (sun god) to worship the (son god)
A festival already existed to worship the sun,
Jesus never Authorized self worship, Mt 4:10Then Jesus said to him: “Go
K&T: If u cont to read JUNK u will remain "confused" & "twisted!" Read Scripture ONLY! Man will cont to "confuse" w/their interpretation! Let go & let GOD (Holy Spirit)!
I do not know but if you take it out it makes "christianity" a girls name - maybe.
The "trinity" is a fiction. The NCV explains in a footnote about 1 John 5:7-8, "A few very late Greek copies and the Latin Vulgate continue, 'in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three witnesses agree.'" So, a scribe added the words and that led to this "trinity" nonsense.
God is the Father, because He created it all. Jesus is a Son of God, just as David was a Son of God. But Jesus was special, because he was spiritually awake when he was born of the flesh in that lifetime. The Holy Spirit is potentially in each of us. It is the True Self -- the child of God within. When we are in spirit, we too are Sons of God.
TX:WoW! I John & Trinity all "man-made" to confuse souls (Jn 10:10)! One day ALL will come to the realization that the Father & Son is the "Greatest Allegory in Scripture" so "mere man" could relate!You're right "He created it all" for He is
You are correct Rod, Jesus is God's son.
The best way to understand this if , A Father who is a senior head, has a Jr son , you raise him to think like you,what ever he learns is from you, so when he does something, he copies you, or mirror action
K&T: Ur belief is a "deviation" fm "Trinity!" Father & Son diff "PERSONS" when there is ONE SPIRIT! God TRIED to relate to man but man can't "see" w/o GIFT of HOLY SPIRIT! Lv "teachings"&"STUDY" n Spirit asking for revelation fm GOD! Not
The Father, The Son & Holy Spirit. I see them as three persons in one which is difficult for our human understanding but then, Gods Ways are not Our Ways, according to scripture.
The Holy Spirit can be thought of as the manifestation of God's power in the world. So, the burning bush, the inspiration of prophets, the power behind miracles this is the Holy Spirit.
There is a similar concept in Judaism called the Shekhinah, which is God's spirit "indwelling" physically in the temple, and in Islam called al Dhat, the "essence" of God.
So, actually, in terms of the Middle Eastern group of traditions, the Holy Spirit makes sense, and it's the literal incarnation of Jesus that sounds crazy. For that, you have to look to the influence of the Greeks, and the fairly common idea of humans descended from gods.
The infusion F, S, H, as a three headed deity
That pagans did worship in acient Babylon.
When christians married pagans , they combined customs and festivals of god worship, read the Edicts of Milan was popular of its support to practice whatever
Read BIBLE not junk! TRUTH will b revealed if u earnestly ask & stop fighting TRUTH! II Chron 7:14!
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