WHY DO EARTHQUAKES HAPPEN

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   Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years ago

   For many years now the earth has had quakes.but i dont think they happen to punnish us,but rather because of what happen in the garden of eden many thousands of years ago.{GENESIS 18:24-33}The fall of man is the reason for the earth quakes and not packs with the devil.At one time the earth and the universe was perfect and when man sinned and fell from grace they started to die,along with the earth and the universe it self.ANTROPLY states that there was a beginning to the universe and because of ageing there will be an end.And that is backed up by what JESUS said Heaven and earth will pass away but my word will never pass away.So the reason we have earth quakes is because the earth is getting old{because of the fall of man}so that means they could happen anywhere and we should be ready and right with the LORD!

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The soul is immortal ,it goes back to god .I agree with Jesus his words are timeless like god and will last till this earth spins.

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      Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wow - you believers really are scared. Why on earth would you want to try and scare the normal people as well? Interesting hypothesis though. Complete garbage of course but what the hey - I am being all tolerant from now on.
      
      Whatever floats your boat and makes your worthless existence bearable say I - Just try and keep the scare mongering down to a murmur.....
      
      ANTROPLY is a new word for me as well. Perhaps you could tell me what that means?
      
      Is it another religionist-only word like "convicted."?

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         Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      The Paulposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It doesn't matter if you entertain mad fantasies about Haitian pacts with the devil or more socially acceptable mad fantasies about our having descended from two people who ate an apple that caused us to deserve whatever suffering comes...
      
      ...attempting to explain away something like this as just or good or meaningful is sickening.

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      tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      And what Entropy has to do with a belief ??

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         Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         what does the 2nd law of thermodynamics inply only that there was a begining and there will be an ending as well!same thing JESUS said 2000 yrs. ago.heaven and earth will pass away but his word would never pass away.{matt.24}

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      DogSiDaedposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      god holds us accountable for Adam and Eves crimes does he? That's like saying if I commit a murder, all my future generations should be tried for that murder as well, without actually having committed it? Fantastic logic.
      
      Who said it was a pact with the Devil?
      
      I don't know who 'ANTROPLY' is, but saying something will begin and then end is just hedging your bets, and it isn't like anyone will be able to verify.
      
      Cleverclogs, if we all die, earth can quite easily remain and Jesus's word die out
      
      Earthquakes generally occur along faultlines, as this is where plates move and become stuck (except constructive margins) So they are more likely to occur most strongly around these areas. I suppose in theory they could hit pretty much everywhere...
      
      However your paragraph was a ramble with little knowledge except a bible reference, which barely counts. It's like me trying to reference everything to Mr Men books, even when the situation has NOTHING to do with them at all.

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      Alessia Amnesiaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Did you ever think that since Adam and Eve are dead, we shouldn't really be punished for their mistakes? I mean, seriously, would you punish your dog because the last dog you had peed on the rug? I don't think so. This is exactly why I'm not a Christian.

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         That's one of the reasons I'm not a Christian either !
         

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         Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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            Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Adam and Eve committed the origional sin. 
              That sin had babies  and we haven't ever quit committing that sin and much much more.       Go Figure???

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      Paul Wingertposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      For those who didn’t make it past 6th grade, earthquakes are caused from shifts in the earth's crust, not from Eve getting conned into eating some fruit by a talking snake. The outcome of the garden story might have been different if Adam went to marriage counseling and stuck with his first wife, Lilith.  Lilith was too strong willed to take any crap from a talking reptile.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Nice Fairy tale!
   So earthquakes happen because the Garden of Eden 'problem'
   
   I would never had imagined !
   
   
   

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      kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I have even heard that painful menstrual cramps are a result of The Garden of Eden Problem. I say we just blame everything we don't like on those 2 lunies in the garden
      
      BTW why did god put the trees of life and knowledge in an easy to reach spot? I woulda thought the top of a impossible to climb cliff would have been better if we really were not supposed to sample the fruit, but what do I know?

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         SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         it is always interesting to recognize when i can agree with everyone in a conversation...all are presenting points that are a part of the discussion...but as with the old story of the blind men and the elephant, unless one takes in the whole picture the answer will not be seen.
         
         it is not so strange for our spiritual concepts to affect us physically, symbology is a very strong psychological concept. if a woman believes she is evil because of the Eden story, she will feel bad during her cycle because she may believe being a woman is evil...
         
         if someone was told not to do something, and did it anyway, that is the point of free will choice, so that they can find out if their actions really did merit the consequences that were suggested would happen if they took  them   

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            kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I do not believe that by being something you have no real control over and no choice about can ever make you evil. If it were possible it would not be by being a woman that one is evil, maybe by being a man j/k
            My cramps are most likely a biological thing and not the result of eve being a dumb ass who ate forbidden fruit cursing everyone for all eternity

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               SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               from a wholistic perspective, i choose to look into all aspects of my being to heal. I don't believe that we can 'divorce" our self from the aspects of our own being and expect to be ok.
               
               Even if one does not believe in a particular "take" of a story, the centuries of that concept that have been passed down can have an impact on our life...and we must protect our self from that impact of the mass consciousness of that concept, by countering with love and self acceptance, for instance

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      evavolizzaposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      It is understandable to not believe.  However, why mock?  A simple reply of :"I disagree with you" suffices, but the obviousness of bitterness makes me wonder.  hmmmm?   Interesting.
      
      Now, I myself, do not believe in  a literal Garden.  I do believe that over billions of years of evolution, God's ultimate creation evolved. MAN (WOMAN). The Garden to me is beautifully figurative language for saying:
      
      1. Man was given Free Will.
      
      2. Man screwed up.  He chose to fefy.
      
      3. Now things are no longer perfect.
      
      4. Man/woman is then Saved.
      
      5  Thus,  hurricanes happen, Quakes happen because "stuff" happens in an imperfect world
          down here.
      
      6.  Our rewards come after this world.
      
      Ah, but back to my main point - why scoff?

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      earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      This has to rate as one of the stupidest attempts at introducing another religious post disguised as a question.
      If you do not know why earthquakes happen, then I would wonder what planet you are on!
      Your nasty little sky doesn't make them happen!

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   TheGlassSpiderposted 14 years ago

   Earthquakes happen because there are enormous things called tectonic plates (large pieces or chunks of the earth's crust and mantle). These plates expand and shift (kind of like breathing) due to changes in internal pressure of the earth. When they grind against one another, earthquakes happen.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Spiritual aspect and not science is what the topic is about.Everyone knows about tectonic plates it is not something new.

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         rebekahELLEposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          
         
         and the move of the tectonic plates is what causes earthquakes.

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            Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            still missing the point,i said it did not happen till the man kind fell into sin!

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               Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Nonsense. Tectonic plates were moving long before man arrived.
               
               Why are you even making these silly statements? Just looking for a fight like a good christian, I suppose.
               
               Still do not know what ANTROPLY means.

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                  Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  look it up

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                     Mark Knowlesposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     I did. I cannot find it anywhere.
                     
                     That is why I wondered what it meant or if it was another religionist made up word because I know you guys like to make up words or use new meanings of words to cause fights.
                     
                     But - don't put yourself out.

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                        Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        antropy sorry not good at spelling

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                           Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           dernit miss spelled again but i found it entropy and it deals with the 2nd law of therodynamics

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                           kerrygposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Entropy?

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                              tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              To measure  the disorder or randomness in a closed system. It's about physics.

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                  aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I think he meant:
                  
                  entropy
                  Measure of a system's energy that is unavailable for work, or of the degree of a system's disorder. When heat is added to a system held at constant temperature, the change in entropy is related to the change in energy, the pressure, the temperature, and the change in volume. Its magnitude varies from zero to the total amount of energy in a system. The concept, first proposed in 1850 by the German physicist Rudolf Clausius (1822 – 1888), is sometimes presented as the second law of thermodynamics, which states that entropy increases during irreversible processes such as spontaneous mixing of hot and cold gases, uncontrolled expansion of a gas into a vacuum, and combustion of fuel.
                  
                  but I'm sure you knew that anyway!

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Scientifically yes the collide and cause earthquakes.

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      Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      we all know that,im just saying it never happen til the fall of man

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         kessposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         There was no "fall of man", that is a false christian doctrine.
         
         All things are ordered by God for the Good of all existence.

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            mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            So true life is in absolute perfection.

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         kirstenblogposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Just a thought but what if there was no "fall of man" ? What if things are the way they are because its what works? In science earth quakes and volcanos are vital for this planets ability to support life, they are destructive but also make life possible and are responsible for such things as our atmosphere which are somewhat helpful to most life forms. Could it maybe be that life and existence is just a cycle of creation and destruction to make room for new creation?

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            Davidsonofjesieposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I dont believe in what if's

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               But you believe in fairy tales !
               

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               JBeadleposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               No, your too busy believing in whack!  Are you even serious?  You don't understand why earthquakes happen?  Seriously?  Is this some kind of joke?  Are you 10?  You need to spend some time at a science sight or Wiki even.  Google earthquakes.
               
               What did the dinosaurs do to piss off God?  Why is God alwasy so pissy with you folks.  I really have a hard time following a diety that has anger management issues.  Doesn't seem very God-y.  Are you Brenda's son?

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            SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I believe that our thoughts, our consciousness, does affect, and even actually creates and sustains our environment. and when as a group, that mass consciousness can effect big changes in the earth...and as in all situations, the most vulnerable points are the first to be affected.

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            dyesebel10posted 14 years agoin reply to this

            I agree, it's a cycle.

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   prettydarkhorseposted 14 years ago

   IT IS the WILL of the FAULT LINES

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   kessposted 14 years ago

   This earth was created from nothing and will return to nothing.
   
   When you see all this catastrophe, it  just doing what was intended from the very begining nothing taking what belongs to it.
   
   When Iron rust away are you worried and flustered?
   
   All dust came from nothing and all things came from the dust.
   
   Everything that came from dust will return to it for they were nothing to begin with.
   
   All that will be saved from the earth, are those that are the Children of God.
   For they are of the seed of light at the begining.
   
   When you come to that knowledge of truth then you can have peace within because, even those things which men perceive as evil are done for the Good. 
   
   All those who are not born from the light are nothing and will return to it.

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   melporposted 14 years ago

   Earthquakes occur because of the moments of the plates on earth. The plates are constantly hitting and rubbing against each other because the earth is slowly cooling. Haiti happens to be sitting right on a fault line were two plates are hitting. When the pressure of one plate siding against the other builds up and reach a point where there is a sudden release of it, the two plates will move in opposite directions for several feet. As a result everything on each plate will move in the direction of the plate moment.
   
   The plates are always in constant motion, but slightly. Also there is an earthquake everyday in the world somewhere. Religion has absolutely nothing to do with it. It is simply a geological activity and this occurs on Venus as well because it has a molten core just like earth.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   Anything  material that has a beginning has an end.
   So? what this has to do with earthquakes?. Religion, I mean

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      SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      the old axiom "as above, so below"...the spiritual good and bad/yin and yang worlds are out-pictured in the material worlds...religious and philosophical stories are symbolic of human life interactions and vice-versa...if the consciousness of a mass group of people is not strong on peace and love, for instance, than peace and love will not be the main focus in their lives, governments or countries and the earth which ultimately is intimately intertwined and created or mis-created by that mass consciousness will "give" at her most vulnerable points-earthquakes

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         tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I can't believe you believe what you're saying !!
         all those babies dead or buried alive in mud and debris!
         
         Hello?
         Is anybody there ?? (inside your head, I mean)

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            thekidandblueposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            this is why I don't partake in these threads. It seems I'm missing out not being on them because everybody else is.

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            SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            It is terrible that the thoughts and actions of those in charge creates the things that happen to the innocents...hello, simple logic of our spiritual connection with the earth...its not "God's" fault or the earth's fault...it is human fault, albeit ignorant and unintended...but misuse of one's power is misuse of one's power, and someone always pays the price, the most vulnerable always pay the price for humanity's inhumanity to humans
            
            please, don't pretend to understand where I am coming from by saying I am bad or wrong or terrible, because that is not who I am...your perception of me is a reflection of you...not me

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               tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Where did I say you were bad, wrong or terrible ???
               It seems the one projecting is you !

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                  SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  I interpreted your statement of "hello, is anyone there (in your head)" as one of implication that I was bad, terrible or wrong...if you had some other implication, than I apologize for misreading you

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                     tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Yes it was another implication.
                     That you haven't given much thought to your statement.

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                        SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        on the contrary, I have given it too much thought...being in overload of the heavy heart for others in the tragedy, I reverted to logic instead of staying in compassion.
                        
                        but I do believe everything I have said...it is up to humanity to change their ways to stop hurting the innocents...
                        
                        like too many other people, when alone, it is hard to stay balanced in the face of tragedy...there is so much more I wish I could do...all I can do is write and pray, send money and help where I can...the only answer is to make these kinds of things go away by changing the depths of our being to one of greater love in action, and stop those that perpetuate their wrong choices by pointing out to them what we see and sharing perspectives with others in mutual support toward the goals of change.

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                           tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           Changing the depths of our beings is not going to make the fault lines shift, nor the plates stop their action.
                           It's Nature what we're talking about, Not A mythic God.
                           Get real !

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                              SparklingJewelposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              I agree to disagree...good fortune in your life tantrum

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               Jane@CMposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               My opinion, earthquakes and other natural disasters are not human's fault.  It nature - scientific.  Seriously, did a bunch of humans meet together for a few weeks and decide, oh, Haiti should get the next big one?

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   zampanoposted 14 years ago

   you are really shaken...

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   awareposted 14 years ago

   tectonic plates

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    ddsurfscaposted 14 years ago

    earthquakes happen for very scientific reasons.  The pressure within the earths core, press upon the plates of stone that have cracks in them in various locations.  When the pressure builds up to a certain degree, something has to give, and the two sides of the stone plate shifts to let some of the pressure escape slipping one side one way and the other side the other way.  This results in an earthquake up here where we are.  It has nothing to do with God, punishment, or the garden of Eden.

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       tantrumposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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    Hikikomoriposted 14 years ago

    Pat Robertson causes them.
    
    

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    I don't know why I want to explain earthquakes in this way but somehow I kinda see it the same.
    
      Imagine a sparrow sitting out on the ice covered small lake up in minnesota. In the spring as it begins to warm up this little sparrow begins to hear small cracking noises as the ice begins its warming up cycle.
       As spring arrives the noise of the Ice moving begins to become louder and more repetitious. As summer nears the noise is constant and occasionally rocks the feathers on this little sparrow.
       The sparrow stands up and begins to walk around.
       The large piece of ice falls out from under the sparrow.
       The other birds who had been watching the sparrow walking around believes that the sparrow caused the ice to fall apart.
    
       Therefore should we kill all the sparrows in our neighborhood before it causes the ground to fall out from under us.

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    ddsurfscaposted 14 years ago

    The only reference the bible makes to earthquakes that I can find right off the bat is that it says in the last days, there will be earthquakes, famines, and plagues, but these were given as signs to be watched for to mark the coming of christ, not as punishments to evil men.

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