Can Jesus Christ be called as a Godman ?

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   free4indiaposted 14 years ago

   Jesus Christ is known as the son of God.
   
   Since it is known that Jesus has lived the life of a man on earth and since most people believe him to be God, can we call Jesus as a Godman ?

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      (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      If he ate pork, we could call him a Godmanpig.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Personally, I wouldn't.
      
      It is sufficient to simply say that He was both at the same time and let those who understand that, understand that.  To say that he's a Godman would confuse the easily confused even more.
        He is no longer a man.

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         SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Ah, but He is still a man sitting at the right hand of God.

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            Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            A flesh-and-blood man?

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               SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Yes just as we will be one day if we stay the course. The angel told the disciples that this same Jesus will return in like manner. His flesh is glorified and is different than the flesh we have today.
               
               Don't get me wrong, I believe Jesus walked as a man but had the spirit of God within Him. He told the pharisees, "Tear down this temple and I will build it again in three days. (speaking of His body)" I love how He said He would build it again not my Father.
               
               I just love the Word of God.

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                  Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Editing to Amen loving the Word of God!!!
                  
                  
                  On the view of Christ's being a man, I understand, but do not concur.
                  
                  I believe the "in like manner" was simply meaning that He will come back quickly and from the sky, same way He ascended.  And of course He will be the same Jesus, because He doesn't change since He is God. 
                  
                  Thanks for the discussion, Sir Dent;  I hope you and yours are doing well and are Highly Blessed these days!

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                     SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     
                     
                     Always blessed.
                     
                     In my post before the point that I was trying to make most was, "This same Jesus." Though He is God, He is also a flesh and blood man. That is how I see it.
                     
                     It is time to hot the shower now and get ready for church. Will check back later.

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                        (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                        It sure is nice to see how Christians agree on the finer points of their religion, the confidence in their harmony leaves one with a feeling of wanting to join right in and accept the tenets from the word of their god, so well defined, so definitive and decisive.
                        
                        And, they complain that non-believers don't have a clue. 

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                           sneakorocksolidposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                           I bet you spent hours thinking that up.

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                              (Q)posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                              If one were to notice time stamps, one would not make such silly comments.

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                     SwampDonkeyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Sounds like a nice dream you had.

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                  Bruce_Leiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Amen, SirDent!  You do believe that he is one with the Father and the Holy Spirit, don't you?  But Jesus does have a human body, while being present everywhere like the Father and the Spirit.  What an amazing God he is as he reveals himself!  He is certainly worthy of our praise!

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         getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         
         
         
         So the answer is YES!...I mean NO!...YES!...but you see...
         
         WOW!!!

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            Brenda Durhamposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            LOL
            
            See, told ya; look how confused you are!? 

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               getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               
               
               OK, if:                 A > B
               how can this be true?:  A = B
               
               Yet you are saying it is.  BRILLIANT!!!
               
               A-represents God
               B-respresents Jesus

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                  Bruce_Leiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes, getitrite.  I believe that God is above and beyond our reasoning powers, because he's God and I'm not--I'm only his creature!  I believe on the basis of the Bible that the Father as the first Person is equal in status with Jesus and the Holy Spirit, but the three Persons have different functions or roles.  For example, the Father created the universe through the second Person (later to become Jesus, the God-man) by the Spirit's power.  Yet, all are one God, not three Gods, as the Bible also says.  I can't figure out his mysterious math (1+1+1=1), but I believe that he is that way as he revealed himself in the Bible.  Who are humans to try to figure God out?  If we could, we would be equal with him in reasoning abilities.  That's not possible because we're only limited creatures, not the unlimited Creator.  That's what I believe; you can believe or disbelieve as you wish.

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                     Cagsilposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                     Nice to see you insult yourself instead of other people doing it.
                     So you're willing to believe in things you cannot prove actually exist since you yourself cannot rationalize the sad equation(1+1+1=1)? So, you assume other people cannot figure it out either. How nice of you.
                     Because it makes a difference in knowing truth from lie.
                     It's not that difficult.
                     You may be limited, due to your thinking, but do not compare your irrationally rationalized belief of limitations to others, who you have no knowledge of or know about.
                     Yes, many people are aware of your belief, as you've done more posting in the forums than you have writing hubs. Your motive is not to educate but brainwash others. How nice of you?
                     
                     Btw- (1+1+1=1) - Consciousness + Subconsciousness + Conscience = One Human.
                     
                     If you would like a different reference - Knowledge(learning) + Wisdom + Awareness = One Human Being Potential(i.e. GOD).

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         Bruce_Leiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Brenda, what makes you say that Jesus is no longer a man?  He showed his body with the scars from his crucifixion to his disciples after he rose from the dead and ate broiled fish at least twice in their presence.  I believe that he is fully God with all of God's qualities and fully human, according to the Bible, God's Word.  You can believe what you want.  I'm curious to hear your response.

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      Ashmiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus as man adopted the attitudes of God. In this sense he was One with God. If we also adopt Gods ways we too are like Him therefore One with Him and also One with the Lord Christ....in essence we are all One but appear as many.......God is not an entity that can be perceived through the senses,.. but that does not mean He cannot be known. In fact to know Him is to be Him. In reality we are all made in His image which is not in essence our physical appearance but in the sense of BEING!

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Hi friend Ashmi
         
         I agree with you. Jesus was talking in parables; he did not mean it literally. He talked in terms of the OTBible which is clear in this respect. Christians understand it wrongly. Jesus never claimed to be God or Son of God, in literal terms.
         
         Thanks
         
         I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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            aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            This is not talking in parables, nor is it anything but literal truth:
            
            Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
            
            If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.
            
            With this statement Christ declared that He was the ONLY way to God, and positioned Himself so that all mankind must choose one of three possible decisions about Christ;
            
            1. He is who He states He is... The Son of God, come to earth to save mankind.
            
            2. He was a liar
            
            3. He was deluded and or mentally insane
            
            Each individuals choice....choose wisely and read the new covenant and old covenant in comparison with your holy book, you will see that the author is not the same person in the Quran
            
            
            He also said...
            
            John 5:41-44
            
            "I do not accept praise from men, but I know you.
            
            I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts.
            
            I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.
            
            How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God?
            
            or how about these words...Christ spoke;
            
            John 6:39-41
            
            And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.
            
            For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
            
            At this the Jews began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."
            
            and of course...
            
            John 10:29-31
            
            "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
            
            I and the Father are one." (Now THAT is one BIG statement)

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            Bruce_Leiterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Hi, friends Ashmi and Paarsurrey!  Are you writing about Jesus' claims that he and the Father are one, that before Abraham existed I AM, I am the bread of life, I am the light of the world, I am the good shepherd, and I am the resurrection and the life?  Each of those claims in the Gospel of John was a claim that he is God, because his reference was clearly to God's appearance to Moses in the burning bush that didn't burn up in Exodus 3 and 4.  When Moses, also your prophet, asked God what his name was he said, I AM THAT I AM.  Jesus backed up his claims that he was God in the Gospel of John by feeding 5,000 people from a little food, healing a man born blind, identifying directly with the good shepherd (Yahweh) of Psalm 23, raising Lazarus from the dead, dying in believers' place to rescue them (John witnessed his death and the soldier's stabbing Jesus to make sure that he was dead), and rising from the dead (appearing to more than 500 people on many occasions), 
            
            You can believe what you want to, but I believe the eyewitnesses of Jesus' claims and actions showing that he is God and man.

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      mohitmisraposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      There are there stages of life .
      
      Man then man gaining enlightenment or god man and then on death god.
      Yes Jesus was a god man.

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      bsscorpio8posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus was  GOODman.

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      exorterposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Isa.9:6  says His name shall be called The Everlasting Father, and the Mighty God.

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      Shahid Bukhariposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Jesus, the Christ ... is the Son of Blessed Mary, a Sign of God.

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   tantrumposted 14 years ago

   So he's no longer a man, but he's a man at the right side of God !
   I would say he was a man who played being God

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   why right hand side ? why not left ? this is partiality for right wings ?

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      SirDentposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      The right (edit) hand is symbolic for power.

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   Brenda Durhamposted 14 years ago

   Have a good time at church and a good day!

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   kessposted 14 years ago

   Jesus The Christ is the Godman.
   While he was still in the flesh, He knew that He was indeed exactly like His Father and walk  in the fulness of that Knowledge.
   
   The beauty of it all is that we are exactly like He is, it is Just a matter of you coming to that knowledge.
   
   Only The inner witness of truth can show and convince you of your True Self.

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   earnestshubposted 14 years ago

   It's always interesting to see religionists fighting over who's god is the only god, the right god, the real god, a man god.
   
   You guys are hilarious!

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   errum fattahposted 14 years ago

   free4india...its the great thing thtu said tht jesus lives like a man on earth, its really great, tht shows that he's not God..
   cuz he used to eat like us, he used to do work n talk like us.
   n jesus himself never said tht he's the son of God there's some changes in bible made by people who had added this..
   
   if he were God or son of God than y he did samethings like men do n i think if the son of God is borned frm virgin marry than y he lives like man? he should  have some more powers..

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hi friend errum fattah
      
      I agree with you.
      
      Thanks
      
      I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

   Question:"Can Jesus Christ be called as a Godman ?"
   
   Answer:
   
   Jesus was not god or son of god; yes, he was a man of God. Men of God Allah YHWH are the Messengers and Prophets. They are pious people selected by the Creator- God Allah YHWH to impart guidance to the people and to set them right on the truthful path. Jesus was undobtedly a great Messenger Prophet.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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      aguasilverposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      You are wrong my peaceful Muslim.... for Jesus said Himself:
      
      Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
      
      If you really knew me, you would know my Father as well.
      
      With this statement Christ declared that He was the ONLY way to God, and positioned Himself so that all mankind must choose one of three possible decisions about Christ;
      
      1. He is who He states He is... The Son of God, come to earth to save mankind.
      
      2. He was a liar
      
      3. He was deluded and or mentally insane
      
      Each individuals choice....choose wisely and read the new covenant and old covenant in comparison with your holy book, you will see that the author is not the same person in the Quran
      
      
      He also said...
      
      John 5:41-44
      
      "I do not accept praise from men, but I know you.
      
      I know that you do not have the love of God in your hearts.
      
      I have come in my Father's name, and you do not accept me; but if someone else comes in his own name, you will accept him.
      
      How can you believe if you accept praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God?
      
      or how about these words...Christ spoke;
      
      John 6:39-41
      
      And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all that he has given me, but raise them up at the last day.
      
      For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."
      
      At this the Jews began to grumble about him because he said, "I am the bread that came down from heaven."
      
      and of course...
      
      John 10:29-31
      
      "My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand.
      
      I and the Father are one." (Now THAT is one BIG statement)

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         paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."
         
         Hi friend aguasilver
         
         This has been wrongly understood by the deserting and unfaithful scribes. Being a truthful Prophet Messenger like Adam, Noah and Jonah etc; he was the way to the Creator-God Allah YHWH.Jesus was no god.
         
         I love Jesus and Mary as mentioned in Quran
         
         Thanks
         
         I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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   atomswifeyposted 14 years ago

   To me it's simple
   
   We are created in God's image in that we are mind, body and spirit.
   The three represent and comprise who we are as an an individual being.
   God the father
   God the son
   God the Holy spirit
   the three represent and comprise who God is as an individual being.
   God the father is the God head
   God the son (Jesus) is God in the flesh
   And God the Holy Spirit is the manifestation of God's spirit which He shares with His people.

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    Twenty One Daysposted 14 years ago

    actually it is A = AB or A = O or A = A; its in the blood, all about the family, its in the blood!

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    paarsurreyposted 14 years ago

    Can Jesus Christ be called as a Godman?
    
    Hi friends
    
    Jesus can be called and must be called a man of the Creator-God Allah YHWH, a pious and innocent man like Moses.
    
    Thanks
    
    I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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       pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       i like the "must" thing which u wrote but paar how do u think it is "must"..for some christ himself is god ....for some christ never even existed and for some he was human , while for some he was messenger..so how do u apply "must" when there are so many opinions...

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    earnestshubposted 14 years ago

    Depends on which bits you like to believe doesn't it?
    
    
    
    
      Christ is not equal with God
               John 14:28  Matt 24:36
    
    Christ is equal with God
               John 10:30 Phil 2:5
           
    Jesus was all-powerful
               Matt 28:18 John 3:35
    
    Jesus was not all-powerful
               Mark 6:5
      The law was superseded by the Christian dispensation
               Luke 16:16 Eph 2:15 Rom 7:6
    
    Thee law was not superseded by the Christian dispensation
               Matt 5:17-19
         111. Christ's mission was peace
               Luke 2:13,14
              Christ's mission was not peace
               Matt 10:34
    
    
    Hot cockies droppings, the lot of it!

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       pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       wow..choose as you please...like multi serving restaurant...

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          earnestshubposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          It's less like a smorgasbord and more like a dogs dinner!

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