Miracles or Magic. What's the difference?

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   aka-djposted 13 years ago

   In another thread I see some people think they are somehow one and the same.
   I have (some) understanding of what a miracle is, but will someone please educate me on the other, and the difference between them? Thanx.

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Both need an audience of fools.

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      ...both are "tricks." finis......

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         The detailed, scientific, evolutionary facts about a woodpecker's tongue is nothing more than tricks? Tricks you write.  Scientific data mind you, tricks you say? Nothing more?
         
         Like, I don't know Revolutionary?  Extraordinary?  Miraculous, maybe?   
         
         Interesting.

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   Mikel G Robertsposted 13 years ago

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle
   
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_(paranormal)

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   Arthur Fontesposted 13 years ago

   Magick, in the broadest sense, is any act designed to cause intentional change.
   
   A miracle is an unexpected event attributed to divine intervention.
   
   wilkepedia
   
   Magic is pulling bunnies out of hats...

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   StormRyderposted 13 years ago

   The definitions may be different but they are both Bullsh1t!
   
   Penn & Teller will tell you so!!!

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      Arthur Fontesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      If you would like to be more in tune with nature you would think about nature.
      
      When you are outside you consciously notice the world around you.
      
      After awhile it becomes part of you and you notice things automatically..
      
      That is majick.
      
      just an example

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         Jeramiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         If ya wanta  look at a miracle and a questionable evolution/intelegent desigh, look at the way a woodpeckers tongue curls up behind its brain when it is not reaching deep inside a hole that it has just dug in a tree with its face.
            Tell me that this bird was doing that until this miracle with its tongue (Cushining its brain)"Just Happened" and evolution took over and prevented further damage to occure to this little birds brain upon being hammered up against a tree.

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         Pani Midnyte Odinposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Magic: People pulling bunnies out of hats, slight of hand tricks, etc.
         
         Magick: Intentional change of any kind.
         
         Miracle: Unexplained solution to a problem happens.

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      qwarkposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Storm:
      The more I read of your "bullshit" The more I love ya!  lol
      
      Penn and Tellers "Bullshit" is GREAT!

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   IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years ago

   The human body is a miracle.
   
   Tantum, can you rebuild a heart to last more than five years?
   
   A spine that bends and turns, and rebuilds itself everyday?
   
   It is not always about foolish beliefs Tantum.  Your insults are getting old.

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      tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      As well as your comments IntimatInvolution!
      
      

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         IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Mark Knowles just wrote this to AquaSilver.  Fittingly it applies to you too.  Condensending.  If we don't agree with Tantum, we must be fools.
         
         Mark Knowles wrote:
         
         "No Daddy. I refer to you as Daddy because you speak to people as though they were a child. wink
         
         You know - condescending."
         
         Yes Tantum, mommy.  We all must be foolish children, and you our "mommy."

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            tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I wouldn't like to have a child like you! Thanks , Involution!
            
            

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               IntimatEvolutionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Oh ouch!  That hurt mommy dearest.

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                  tantrumposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  
                  
                  I hope it did ! 

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I wonder when evolution received the label of a 'miracle?'
      
      Miracles defy our physical world, evolution does not.

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         aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         "Miracles defy our physical world, evolution does not."
         
         Interesting you should say that!!
         
         Abiogenesis, you know, the VERY first advent of life, also defied EVERY KNOWN scientific/physical law we know of. So how can you assert the above styatement?
         
         And yes, miracles DO defy our physical laws, hence the definition.

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            Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It does? Can you name those laws and explain how they are defied in regards to abiogenesis?
            
            
            
            I would have to then say there are no such things as miracles as defined.

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   awareposted 13 years ago

   alphabetical order

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   Greek Oneposted 13 years ago

   Example of a miracle:
   Meeting a supermodel, having her seduce you, taking you back to her place, and making love to you all night long.
   
   Example of magic
   The ability to escape unseen from her bedroom without having your bones broken by her 300 pound bodybuilder boyfriend who just came back early from a trip

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   paarsurreyposted 13 years ago

   aka-dj asks:
   
   Miracles or Magic. What's the difference?
   
   Paarsurrey answers:
   
   Magic is only a superstition.
   
   Miracles are done naturally but the level of human knowledge has not reached yet to the level to explain them; they are done under special laws of the Creator- God Allah YHWH.
   
   Like Mary giving birth to a child without touching of a man. It is an exception but natural; one in millions.
   
   Thanks
   
   I am an Ahmadi peaceful Muslim

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