I am personally a buff of literature. Yet for the life in my can barely quote my own writings. Don't laugh, it's true. After much observation and posting, I have to wonder what the HubBub with BOTH believers and non-believers quoting scripture. I am well aware many religious groups quote and that a few hold quoting chapter and verse as the ultimate power or the Word inclusive. Yet, from all the c & v I have read, found no where it states we should quote the words of a books/letters. They are a simple inspired stories, guide and expression to show us the truth.
For example, non believers quote Torah as the hate-speech of the Father while believes quote the 'New Testament' as the love-speech of the Father. Are both correct or both incorrect in your view.
And why are people compelled to quote them.
Your thoughts on quoting...
Jesus did it and we should also if we are indeed followers of Jesus.
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Isa 61:1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;
Sir Dent, I see this as a partial reading He did, not quoting. He read it to fulfill the Isaiah prophecy concerning himself, yes. But afterward only one other time does He mention script in paraphrase when responding to a temptation.
My concern lies in the limitation of quoting is the absence of actual power in the Spirit to manifest the still hidden truths.
Not to say reading it is a bad thing. But solely remaining in that place. Much like the hackneyed human consciousness of sin which 99% of the believing still meditate on daily.
Still, the underlying question is why it has become so fashionable by both sides.
I'm adamant about not quoting scripture. It's a folly habit and only brings one's countenance down in the eyes of others. No persuasion takes place by throwing scripture at others. Influence takes place through long-suffering, gentleness, meekness and love unfeigned. What greater way to influence the opinion of other than to be an example of what you believe. Let others judge the fruits of what you believe in your actions, words and thoughts. That is where the spirit is manifest and magnified - not in vain repititions of scripture tossing. To do this is a desecration of sacred writ. Those inspired words were meant to be taken "in" and applied and not used as punchlines or bullets.
I hate "air quotes".
honestly, I have no problem with people who qoute stuff becuase they feel it enhances thier point, but Im not a fan of qoute contests.
Anyone quoting scripture, simple proves that they do not understand the scripture, in and of, itself. I get the fact that some non-believers love to use scripture, to point out certain aspects and it's a foolish step.
Those who spread the word learned from religion, albeit, whatever religion it is, really do not comprehend the true meaning, because they see only the words but do not incorporate those same words into their life. If they did, then they wouldn't speak of it to begin with.
Just my thoughts.
I think that I agree with you on this Cagsil.
I have seen two people argueing ; "I'm right you are wrong", "No You are wrong I am right", while quoting the same verses as proof of their side of the arguement.
Peoples minds have been programed to believe those things that they read to mean something that are in fact,are saying something other than what they think that it says And we are all doin it !
Does that make any sense?
The Bible is the inspired word of God. It's powerful; the most powerful Book around. People are drawn to it, just as they're drawn to the Author of it. They'll either love it or hate it.
..I wrote a poem about that drawing power. Deleted it later with a bunch of others. Oh well.
The quoting of the Bible, or even other books, should always be taken and given out within the context of the entire intent of the author.
Non-believers don't do that. Nor do many religions or denominations, sad to say.
Generally, I find experience a better teacher than quotations from sources. Even spirituality is far better experienced than read about. The experience creates the paradigm shift, realizations, etc., far more powerfully.
Perhaps quotations can start that thinking toward shift, but I think we get bombarded with such things and therefore, become numb to it.
This I can see. If one is generally bombarded outwardly or inwardly by words, it certainly effects the psyche not to mention the spirit and body.
I have seen this generally around the association of power, either by prayer or evoking. Part of this reminds me of a quote that states every word humans speak they will have to give account for why they said it. Which appears to state such a method(s) suppresses the necessary workings of the human being collectively (body, brain, spirit).
People often quote scripture to suggest that others are not practicing their religion "correctly." However, a person's true values are the ones he's internalized, not the ones he gives lip service to, so this practice is counter-productive.
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