Is any one in Hell fire today, or are any burning in hell today. who's in charge of hell?
I dunno if anyone is there yet or not.
I do believe hell is a real place. The Bible speaks of "everlasting" punishment. Whether that word "everlasting" means literally everlasting or not, I know I don't wanna go there.
Look at this scripture: Revelation 20: 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Would a loving Heavenly Father really allow someone to burn forever??.. NO! hell is a person becoming grave.. People do not burn forever. God is love, and he wants what is best for us... Just as he wanted Adam and Eve to live forever on paradise earth... God does not lie... There will be change.. Don't allow yourself to be mislead.. Satan in misleading the whole entire earth...
These are verses about going to hell.There is another I am hunting which says He upholds all things by the word of His power.
Matthew 16:23,Matthew 5:29,Matthew 33:23 and2nd Peter 2:4
Over The Hill thought was some great scripture, but not one said anyone was in hell fire.
read Act 2-27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. hell is the grave, there will be a fire. notice what
Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
Hell is a temporary abode of the disobediant spirit between death and resurrection. those who inherit the kingdom of Hell will abide there until the day of the last resurrection. In this sense it is only a temporary assignment until rebelious spirits have fully paid the price of their sins.
The Bible does not speak of temporary punishment.Upon removal from hell those are cast into the lake of fire.
The Bible says once you`ve been committed to hell; Their is no reprieve and you go straight to the lake of fire. In other words,no second chances.
then why does it say in Psalms 16:10
For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
Further Isaiah also alludes to a redemption of the "prisoners:"
Thus saith the Lord, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, and in a day of salvation have I helped thee: and I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages;
That thou mayest say to the prisoners, Go forth; to them that are in darkness, Shew yourselves. They shall feed in the ways, and their pastures shall be in all high places.
It is evident that in the Bible words such as "Endless," and "eternal" indicate the nature of the punishment rather than its duration.
Psalm 16:10 refers to Jesus decending into the bowels of the earth to hades or hell and paradise where the Spirit of God raised Him up. Also symbolic of His death on the cross,3 days in the earth where God raised Him up. Also symbolic of Jonahs 3 days in the belly of the beast and then spit out.
The 1st death is the grave/ground/pit.
The 2nd death is of spirit/considered the lake death.
Those of the 1st resurrection have already been spared the 2nd death, since there was no salvation before then. Everyone after would be subject to it.
Hell has been swallowed up, it says, in victory over the grave.
Hell no longer exists.
Could you give me scripture for you statement?
2 Ne. 9: 10-12
10 O how great the goodness of our God, who prepareth a way for our escape from the grasp of this awful monster; yea, that monster, death and hell, which I call the death of the body, and also the death of the spirit.
11 And because of the way of deliverance of our God, the Holy One of Israel, this death, of which I have spoken, which is the temporal, shall deliver up its dead; which death is the grave.
12 And this death of which I have spoken, which is the spiritual death, shall deliver up its dead; which spiritual death is hell; wherefore, death and hell must deliver up their dead, and hell must deliver up its captive spirits, and the grave must deliver up its captive bodies, and the bodies and the spirits of men will be restored one to the other; and it is by the power of the resurrection of the Holy One of Israel.
Could you please tell me what comes before death? After you have answered life, can you please tell me what comes before the resurrection? After you answer death... can you please tell me who you are rebelling against?
No man can pay for his own sin. That's why Jesus came to die for mankind. Those who reject His love go to that 'temporary' hell [Sheol/Hades] upon death, and upon the last resurrection [of the body] they will be cast into the Lake of Fire [Geenna], which is the second death, where the Bible says "the smoke of their torment goes up for ever and ever and they have no rest day or night" (Rev 14:11).
It may sometimes be difficult for poeple to interpert the use of such biblical terms as "endless punishment" and "eternal punishment." I however I believe that there is a deeper meaning, and it would be more accurate to say it is "God's punishment," since "endless" and "eternal" are two of God's names. Likewise, the term "eternal life" can be interpreted to mean "God's life" in the same manner.
Further God did speak on the subject of the unrepentant having to suffer for their sins; D&C 19-16 For behold, I, God, have suffered these things for all, that they might not suffer if they would repent;
17 But if they would not repent they must suffer even as I; 18 Which suffering caused myself, even God, the greatest of all, to tremble because of pain, and to bleed at every pore, and to suffer both body and spirit—and would that I might not drink the bitter cup, and shrink—
Remember that in Isaiah 45;23 he says; "unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear." not most knees, or some tongues, because God is perfectly just and I truely believe that if something is amiss in peoples interpertations of scripture it causes some to either accept a merciless and vengfull, destroying God, rather than a loving Father in Heaven, or deny that such a tyranical being could possibly exist.
So Hugs, not Hellfire.
Not that I even consider Mormon doctrine ~ you made a good point (half way) in that if God is eternal and everlasting, our life after death is also eternal and everlasting ~ in heaven or hell. As far as those who do not repent suffering, we know this has to do with the next life, for the ways of the wicked prosper in this life. Believers who wander off the path of God are disciplined by Him in this life. Believers are persecuted and even hated ~ as was your 'prophet', Joseph Smith. Believers' suffering is temporary leading to eternal/everlasting life; the unrepentent's gain is temporary leading to eternal/everlasting anathema. That's what the Bible says (without the Book of Mormon), and I believe what it says.
People interpert many different things from the same passages of the bible however I believe that there are some plain and precious truths which have been omitted, or mistranslated which need to be addressed and are addressed in the Book of Mormon, hence it is a more accurate book than the Bible.
Some people, past and present, believe that unbaptized babies who die prematurely end up in Hell for ever. Does this seem like the dealings of a perfectly just God? One would think not. However the true nature of God is revealed to us in simple passages with much clarity;
Moro. 8:11 And their little children need no repentance, neither baptism. Behold, baptism is unto repentance to the fulfilling the commandments unto the remission of sins.
12 But little children are alive in Christ, even from the foundation of the world; if not so, God is a partial God, and also a changeable God, and a respecter to persons; for how many little children have died without baptism!
13 Wherefore, if little children could not be saved without baptism, these must have gone to an endless hell.
14 Behold I say unto you, that he that supposeth that little children need baptism is in the gall of bitterness and in the bonds of iniquity; for he hath neither faith, hope, nor charity; wherefore, should he be cut off while in the thought, he must go down to hell.
15 For awful is the wickedness to suppose that God saveth one child because of baptism, and the other must perish because he hath no baptism.
Because of this there is no doubt in my mind that babies who have died get a free ticket to Heaven.
The Bible does not teach infant baptism anywhere. Through my study of the Bible, we are in agreement, in that the kingdom of heaven is likened to the little children (Mat 19:14). I believe everyone was given salvation from the foundation of the world (by grace through faith) and their names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life. At the age of accountability (only God knows each person's heart), that one must choose to enter that Covenant relationship with God or reject it ~ thus causing his name to be blotted out of the Book of Life. Anyone whose name is not found written in the Lamb's Book of Life will be cast into the Lake of Fire (Rev 20:15), of which the Bible states "they will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and Lamb, and the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever, and they have no rest day or night..." (Rev 14:10-11).
Yes, you said that already, and what about the fact that Jesus said, that no man can inherrit the kingdom of God without first being born of water, and of the holy spirit? I have never seen a scripture refrence which states anything about an age of accountability except in my church's doctrine.
Though Christ Himself says to His disciples not to stop children coming to Him, nowhere in the Bible can you find these ideas where accountability and instant infant/child salvation have any presence.
In John 3, Jesus taught what it is to be born of water (the mother's womb) and the Spirit (born again by faith in Christ). God knows the moment a person is drawn by Him (He said in John 12:32 that He would draw all men to Himself, if He is lifted up from the earth ~ which He was) and, whether that person embraces Him or rejects Him determines whether or not s/he is 'born again', thus becoming a son of God (John 1:12). Only God knows when that is in each person's lifetime (Acts 13:48).
I find it hard to assume that an infant would turn to Christ before he or she can even utter his name or be taught what he is. Though we can draw the conclusion that God will not consign them to Hell simply based on his good nature, it continues to be a subject of conrtoversy throughout the Christian world. There is no doubt however, in LDS theology pertaining to the destination of deceased children.
I agree, Living forever would be a way worse fate than being dead.
You will be disappointed if you hold on to that belief. I know it's a faith thing, but, to believe you have a brain if faith also have you ever seen your brain. Please give God a try. He Love you
Hmm. That's not what I heard. Maybe that explains this 100-degree heat a lot of us have been living in, though.
The Bible predicts great heat on the earth with no relief and yet it says people will not confess He is God. Better buy more a/c units. gonna get worse.
that's the problem, it's not what you have read from the Bible it's what you have heard. and the person, place or thing you heard it from is you God. The God of the Bible is what you need, come unto him and he will give you rest.
I'm sure a little hell fire wont hurt too much.. lol
Probably deserve it anyway...
Another topic that was born, died, descended into hell, ascended into heaven, rose again and is NOW dead and done to death.
iy, yiy, yiy
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