Why do christians insist that Hitler was an atheist?

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   Antecessorposted 14 years ago

   Although some might counter that Hitler's admission to Christianity, by itself, does not make one a Christian, how else can an individual convey to another his religion except from their own confession? One of the tenants of Christian belief, indeed the definition of a Christian, comes from the Pauline epistiles in regards to faith in Jesus:
   
   Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
   -Galatians 2:16
   
   To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
   -Romans 3:26-28 
   
   Paul, by declaring faith in Jesus over law, effectively separated Christianity from Judaism. It came from these Pauline declarations that first defined Christianity. Belief in Jesus serves as the only requirement for membership into the Christian community. Christianity does not require adhering to Old Testament laws or membership to any Church or abstaining from evil deeds. One need only have faith in Jesus for its justification, period.
   
   
   Just a few quotes from the man himself to get you going.
   
   
   
   First and best:
   
   Hitler wrote: "I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.." 
   
   I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.
   
   - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 2
   
   Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time.
   
   - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 5
   
   The fact that the Vatican is concluding a treaty with the new Germany means the acknowledgment of the National Socialist state by the Catholic Church. This treaty shows the whole world clearly and unequivocally that the assertion that National Socialism is hostile to religion is a lie.
   
   - Adolf Hitler, speech to members of the Nazi Party on the Nazi-Vatican Concordant, July 22, 1933
   
   What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.
   
   - Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 8
   
   
   Just a few, there are literally thousands of quotes.
   
   Perhaps Hitler was mad. But he was definately christian not atheist. Please stop blaming hitlers deeds on atheists.

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Another indication of Hitler's beliefs about religion comes from his private library of numerous books. Although most of Hitler's books came as gifts from writers and publishers, those where he penciled and underlined sections reveal, not only the books that he read, but also those that he commented on and had an interest in. Timothy W. Ryback, who examined Hitler's books, found more than 130 books devoted to spirituality and religion including the teachings of Jesus Christ. Some of the titles included, Sunday Meditations; On Prayer; A Primer for Religious Questions, Large and Small; Large Truths About Mankind, the World and God; a German translation of E. Stanley Jones's 1931 best seller, The Christ of the Mount; and a 500-page work on the life and teachings of Jesus, published in 1935 under the title The Son: The Evangelical Sources and Pronouncements of Jesus of Nazareth in Their Original Form and With the Jewish Influences. Ryback also found a leather-bound tome -- with WORTE CHRISTI, or "Words of Christ," embossed in gold on the cover -- According to Ryback, it "was well worn, the silky, supple leather peeling upward in gentle curls along the edges. Human hands had obviously spent a lot of time with this book.... I scanned the book for marginalia that might suggest a close study of the text. A white-silk bookmark, preserved in its original perfection between pages 22 and 23 (only the portion exposed to the air had deteriorated), lay across a description of the Last Supper as related by Saint John. A series of pages that followed contained only a single aphorism each: 'Believe in God' (page 31), 'Have no fear, just believe' (page 52), 'If you believe, anything is possible' (page 53), and so on, all the way to page 95, which offers the solemn wisdom 'Many are called but few are chosen.'" [Ryback]

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      Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      yes, I read on another thread a christian claiming that Hitler was atheist and stating atheists are evil.
      I actually think Hilter could have been following some parts of the bible to the letter

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         Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Dipping back into the religious forums again so soon.
         
         You MUST be masochist.
         
         LOLs

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            Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Glutton for punishment!

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               Baileybearposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               I'm actually searching for amusing quotes to put in my hub

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            paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            What is a masochist,pleas? Anybody

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               Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               Someone who enjoys enduring pain, frustration or hardship.

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      Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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      True, Paul led people away from the God they sought.
      
      He too as did Hitler, thought it was OK to murder people.

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      hermfry418posted 14 years agoin reply to this

      I'm sure that some Christians would not consider a person who was responsible for the atrocities of the Holocaust a Christian, regardless of what that person says.  These Christians would say that if you walk like a duck and talk like a duck, you must be a duck.  It would be akin to me punching you in the face, and then saying I'm sorry and that, really, deep down I'm a good guy...only to punch you in the face again 30 seconds later.  Am I acting in a manner that shows that I am a good guy?  No.  I'm acting in a manner that shows you that I am an asshole.
      
      Adolf Hitler could be considered by any person, secular or otherwise, to be an atheist from the simple standpoint that before, during, and throughout the war he tried to not only take over the world, but came close to completely eradicating an ancient race and culture of people.  When you murder six million people, you are essentially taking the role of God upon yourself, so how, some might say, could you believe in God and call yourself a Christian?
      
      I've been Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic and everything in between, and have found that the more fundamentalist nature of a religion is presented as an immoral or unethical group.  I would say that, if we were to determine through some stretch of the imagination that Hitler was in fact a Christian, we could also easily conclude that he was a fundamentalist of sorts.

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      Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Devil also is quoting Scriptures, and trembling. I understand from my childhood that Hitler was Lutheran and now he was Roman Catholic. Today many politician claiming they are Christians. It doesn't mean anything. Christian should be Christ like. Christ was Jewish. Then Hitler was "Jesus" killer.  The name Yeshuah - Jesus means salvation.
      Being religious and being Christian are two deferent matters.

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      Vladimir Uhriposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Hitler was devil's worshiper as well as Karl Marx was.
      Atheists claiming they believe only in science. There is more what we do not know that we know. The number is astronomical. 
      Because they believe qualify for religion. Religion is man's opinion. Only un- compromised faith in God almighty is valid. 
      Atheism is responsible for more deaths than Christian religion.  Atheism is primitive.
      Now I am out. No time to response.

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         getitriteposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         
         
         EVERY WORD OF THIS IS NONSENSE!

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      Stump Parrishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Because they have no interest in the truth if it differs from the fantasy they hold on to. All that is required is a little research and this is beneath MOST christians. It's easier to blame it on atheists than to admit even one christian is wrong. However according to their beliefs wasn't Hitler actually followinjg god's plan? He has a plan for everyone unless I am wrong in what I have been told time and time again. The preacher in Atlanta that likes to preform statory rape on little boys is simply following god's plan. He is a christian leader of a huge church but I will assume that some will say he is not a true christian, It seems that the term true christian has as many definitions as there are people in the faith. The posts that list passages from his own writings will be dismissed due to a differing opinion on christian websites. Of course these same sites also dispute provable scientific fact. Bottom line is that christians have the right to believe anything they choose to. They have the right to look fact in the face and deny it. They don't have the right to force this horse crap on my children.

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   Why atheists will kill minority in Germany with religious inclination ? looks like Christians are right. atheists are evil and they are dumb.

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Yes and we eat up roasted babbys too!!!!

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         Stump Parrishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         I would like my roasted baby with a creamed christian brain sauce. Of course seeing as how christian brains are harder to find than truffles and saffron,  I have yet to try this recipe. On a side note about food, I am upset about an article I read the other day that claimed there are hundreds of thousands of battered women in America. What upsets me is that I am still eating mine plain.

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   Antecessorposted 14 years ago

   After reading Hitler's book and his speeches, one cannot help but realize that Hitler believed in fate and the guiding hand of Jesus. Like many powerful religious people, he thought of himself as a sort of messiah, chosen by God. In 1943, while the war still raged on, the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (forerunner of the CIA) commissioned the psychoanalyst, Walter Langer, to develop a "psychological profile" of Adolf Hitler. Langer looked at all the, then, available material about Hitler, including Mein Kampf, his speeches, and interviews with former Hitler associates. Langer concluded:
   
   A survey of all the evidence forces us to conclude that Hitler believes himself destined to become an Immortal Hitler, chosen by God to be the New Deliverer of Germany and the Founder of a new social order for the world. He firmly believes this and is certain that in spite of all the trials and tribulations through which he must pass he will finally attain that goal.

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   skyfireposted 14 years ago

   That's true Hitler was religious and superstitious. Swastika on his flag has origin from Hinduis, where the reverse direction of swastika was sign of despair, aggression, chaos, darkness etc.

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      paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Being superstition is more of an attribute appropriate for the Atheists.
      
      Truthful Word of Revelation does not have any teachings for superstition. The Atheists, some or many or most if not all, however do believe in magic, Zodiac, Astrology, numerology, Hitchcraft,succubus incubus, vampires, people visiting earth from other planets etc, etc; though they eulogize or give lip service to science in the same breath to much.
      
      One could see posts of the Atheists on these subject

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         Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Dont be stupid.
         
         Atheists believe in none of these things.
         
         No magic of any kinds.
         
         Prove to me any atheist that believes in magic?

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            paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Though not believing in the Creator-God Allah YHWH is enough for their superstition yet if the Atheists Skeptics Agnostics here say that they don't  subscribe to any of the things I listed; I will rephrase my post. I had the impression, sorry.

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               Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

               We have NO superstition of any kind.
               
               We believe things can only happen by demonstratable causes and forces and reasons.
               
               That means no magic, no magical gods, no superstitions because there is no way for superstitions to work, and no witchcraft, no supernatural entitys.
               
               Disbelief in something is not a belief.
               
               Not having a belief is not a belief.
               
               Not having a dog is not a type of dog, dogless is not a type of dog, it is the absence, not the presence of a dog.
               
               Not believing in superstition is not a superstition.
               
               Do you believe in superstition?
               
               No?
               
               Then does that mean you have the superstition of no superstition?

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            Stump Parrishposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            you know the reply will be...prove to me they don't.

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         Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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         If you actually understood the Bible, you would see it is coded with Gamatria which is Numerology.

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            paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Did Moses invent it? if not; then who?

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               Deborah Sextonposted 14 years agoin reply to this

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               God

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   greengypsywolf1posted 14 years ago

   Christians have a hard time admitting that anything could be wrong in any way, shape or form about thier bleiefs.
   Think I'm wrong? Try explaining that Xmas is pretty far off from Jesus's B-day, and that the real reason we celebrate it now, and even how we celebrate it, is because Cristians integrates various Pagan Yule celebrations for maximum recruitment. Invaribly most Christian will completely blow their top with such a rush of denials and such.
   My point? You cant tell a Christian anything contrary to their beliefs. They won't hear you.
   It comes down to the very religion they have. The "Develepors" of Christianity knew what they were doing; they made faith (absolute unquestioning trust and belief with no thought of proof)the core tenant of their product. Those "developers" basicly made the religion a giant scapew goat for any problems that may arise.
   What there are contradictions in the Bible? No, no I have faith so I know that thats just God not being able to talk to his humans well; God is mysterious etc etc.
   Most Christians will even try to proof God exists for no other reason then the martyr that have died.
   Really? How many died for their beleifs throughout Christianity's bloody recruitment wars? By that the previously stated idea then, all those who died that beleived in something else had to have been right.......Ugh enough
   (gets down off his soapbox and sits deep in thought,with a moody aura in the corner)

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Whenever I talk to Christians I get an overwhelming feeling of frustration, like I'm talking to absolute imbeciles, for just the reasons you outline above.
      
      They just dont listen.
      
      I am quite willing to listen, admit when I'm wrong, and convert IF they can use evidence to prove I'm wrong or they're right. But they aren't willing to do the same. aaaarrrrgghhh.

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   Merlin Fraserposted 14 years ago

   “Why do Christians insist that Hitler was an atheist?”
   
   Must admit I find the question a little naive and perhaps more than a little over simplistic.
   
   Given his historical record I could imagine any or all of the mainframe religious groups might try to distance themselves from him as a member of their group.
   
   Perhaps the fact that Hitler was a mentally deficient Megalomaniac might go some way to explain why he thought and acted the way he did.
   
   However the question for me is why did so many of that Nation choose to not only follow him but to cheerfully and willingly carry out his wishes ?
   
   They can’t all have been Atheist !!!!   
   
   Besides how do you explain all those who, even to this day, go around demanding Death to all non believers in the name of their God.  There are many who given half a chance and the wherewithal to execute their plan who would happily wipe out the Jewish Nation and most of Western civilization in the name of God.....
   
   Are they Atheist as well ?     
   
   I am not an Atheist, just because I do not believe in a God,  nor do I harbour any notion to remove from the world any who think me wrong.  Although I cannot say for certain that the feeling is mutual from those who claim to be true believers.

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Absolutely, I never even thought of it from that perspective, surely all the german civilians couldn't have been atheists.
      
      Hey maybe they were all good christians, but didn't know what their evil atheist overlord was up too?
      
      LOLs

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   exorterposted 14 years ago

   I do not believe Hitler was an atheist, but a misguided Christian, therefore he was not Christian. If you do not follow the word you are not Christian, you do not hate,or kill, you love your enemy,neighbor and brother.
   The misguided souls on the Hub pages need prayer just like any that do not know our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
   Many say that there is no profe that He exsist but once you have felt or seen thhe power of God you can never doubt again, no one could put any doubt into you mind

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      Wrong, according to the bible THE ONLY PRE-REQUISITE to being christian is a belief in god and jesus. YOU CLEARLY HAVE NOT READ THE OP, OR ANY OF THE COMMENTS. You have commited the no true scotsman fallacy.
      
      From the bible, on being a christian.
      
      Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
      -Galatians 2:16
      
      To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.
      -Romans 3:26-28

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   Jeramiposted 14 years ago

   There are as many definitions of what a Christian "is"  as there are interpretations of prophesy.
   
      And when all is said and done  Our definitions of ourselves are of no importance.

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      Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

      What does the bible say about being a christian?
      
      It says, in the two above scriptures I quote, by FAITH alone, and not by works.
      
      If one believes, then one is christian, one is saved.
      
      Hitler was a christian, and if there is a god, then he is saved.

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         Jeramiposted 14 years agoin reply to this

         Scripture also states that Lucifer and all of his followers believes.
         
            I believe in George Bush.  But I didn't and wouldn't vote for him.
         
            If you believe me you would not play out on the ice covered lake if I told you not to.
         
            There is a difference between believing and "Saying" that you believe.
         
           At least that is my thoughts.

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            Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah how does that scripture go, they believe and shudder, or something like that.
            
            Fallen angels cannot be saved, only humans were given that gift, which is why the fallen are envious of gods favored children.
            
            While the fallen children are cats into darkness with no hope of mercy from their heavenly father except ETERNAL TORTURE, the favorites are shown special favors. No wonder they're angry.
            
            LOLOLOL The PURE retarded bullshit that is the babble. How could anyone be so silly as to imagine all these imaginary entitys with all their feuds and illogical actions, actually exist.
            
            Jerami I have read the bible from cover to cover many times, I know the "story" by heart, I was a true believer in my youth, I KNOW what it says, and I know its wrong.

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   greengypsywolf1posted 14 years ago

   Exorter: You do seem to go a ways to prove my point, and Antecessor's as well.
   You say you know what is truth becasue of the good feeling you get from your over riding faith.
   Faith is nothing but blind belief.
   You are saying that there is no way you could be wrong based not on fact, but your own personal feelings and a faith that is merely part of a greater tool of loyalty for the religion itelf.
   Most Christians have no facts, a whole lot of misdirection, and absolutley no critical thinking ability (as evidneced by a complete innability to say "hmm, theres something thats not adding up").
   Talking to a Christian can seriuosly become like talking to a brick wall with tape player strapped to it.
   It droningly repeates the pre recorded mantra's and refuses to move for anything.

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    skyfireposted 14 years ago

    Tsk. Tsk. tsk frustration of paarsurrey.
    
    Do you want to know what hadith says about fly ?
    
    The Prophet said "If a house fly falls in the drink of anyone of you, he should dip it (in the drink), for one of its wings has a disease and the other has the cure for the disease." (Sahih Al-Bukhari: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 537)
    
    tell me it's scientific and not superstition... 
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Says who ? Islamic trolls ? 
    
    
    
    Yup. There you go shouting out loud without proof.

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       Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       OMG
       
       ha ha ha ha ha
       
       Its worse than the babble.

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       paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

       Hadith was collected 200/250 years after the demise of Muhammad (SAW); please quote from Quran the first and the foremost source of guidance of Quran/Islam/Muhammad, whatever the denomination.

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          skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          You want scientific quran ? Here we go.
          
          "The Quran, CHAPTER 15, Al-Ïijr:The Rock
          22 And We send the winds ferti-
          lizing, athen send down water from
          the clouds, so We give it to you to
          drink; nor is it you who store it up."
          
          "The Quran, CHAPTER 23, Al-Mu’min∂n: The Believers
          18 And We send down water from
          the cloud according to a measure, then
          We cause it to settle in the earth, and
          We are indeed able to carry it away.
          19 Then We cause to grow thereby
          gardens of palm-trees and grapes for
          you. You have therein many fruits
          and of them you eat; "
          
          "The Quran, CHAPTER 30, Al-R∂m:The Romans
          48 Allåh is He Who sends forth the
          winds, so they raise a cloud, then He
          spreads it forth in the sky as He pleas-
          es, and He breaks it, so that you see
          the rain coming forth from inside it;
          then when He causes it to fall upon
          whom He pleases of His servants, lo!
          they rejoice — "
          
          "The water cycle — technically known as the hydrologic cycle — is the continuous circulation of water within the Earth's hydrosphere, and is driven by solar radiation."
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_cycle
          
          "A cloud is a visible mass of condensed droplets or frozen crystals suspended in the atmosphere above the surface of the Earth or another planetary body. (...) On Earth, the condensing substance is water vapor, which forms small droplets of water (typically 0.01 mm of ice crystals) that, when surrounded with billions of other droplets or crystals, are visible as clouds."
          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clouds
          
          You want me to dig more ?

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             paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             What do you mean by the scientific Quran? Did Quran claim to be a text book of science? Quran is for Ethical, Moral and Spiritual guidance of humanity, it is mentioned in the very beginning of the Quran.
             
             Quran/Islam/Muhammad want that the human beings should be creative in thinking and does not block meaningful enquiry. If He would have given a book including all the sciences; that would have blocked the human progress.
             
             Quran is a secular religious book; it does not interfere with the Sciences and let them develop unhindered in the temporal realm.

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                Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                But scientifically it says things that are just plain made up rubbish, if it doesnt tell the truth about some things, then how do you know it tells the truth about everything else?
                
                Besides, if it cant get it right, then why does it talk of these things at all.
                
                I also seem to remember you claiming that there is not one scientific error in the Q urine

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                skyfireposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                LOL. What happened ?
                
                Aren't you the same person who claims science and the laws of physics from Allha YAMAHA ? 
                
                Don't crack me up by saying quran is secular book- when it has all the hatred messages against non-believer and non-muslim, you want me to dig that ?

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          Antecessorposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Thats just like the christians saying the old testament doesnt count because of the new testament, hey its all the same rubbish to us.

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             paarsurreyposted 14 years agoin reply to this

             No, friend Antecessor, Hadith did not exist in the time of Muhaammad it was collected 200/250 years after Muhammad (SAW) and is to be accepted truthful if it does not contradict with Quran.

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    Jeramiposted 14 years ago

    One last comment before I go.
    
      When  "Teachers"  insert their interpretation upon any book or story and these interpretations are accepted ...
    
      Our understanding of what we are reading has been tainted.
    
      We are seldom thinking as far outside the box as we think that we are.  Misconceptions that are learned at an early age are seldom overcome. 
      Jumping out of one box into another makes little progress..

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    Hitler feared and hated the Jews. He wanted them all dead.
    He persuaded his followers that anyone with dark hair and brown eyes
    were the enemy and should be killed.
    
    The Jewish Mystics were most feared by Hitler.
    Hitler confessed to be a "Christian", but was also a Black Magician.
    He took an ancient symbol from the Jews, which symbolized "well-being" and made it counter clockwise, for ill will toward the Jews.
    The Swastika.
    
    He said he believed God wanted him to kill the Jews.
    In reality he was very afraid of them

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    qwarkposted 14 years ago

    I love Hitlers paintings tho.
    The roman catholic psychotic asshole could paint!

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    kephriraposted 14 years ago

    People like to use the Nazi's to show how atheist can be just as psycho and kill just as many people as the religious, but they have misunderstood a rejection of christianitty with a rejection of religion.
    
    Not sure about Hitler himself, but many Nazi (especially Goebels) rejected christianity as a weak religion - based on the philosophy of Nietzche who write whole books on the rejection of christian values and who they loved, but they actually wanted to create their own new pagan religion. The Nazis were obsessed with the holy grail, various occult systems and stuff like that.

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    Deborah Sextonposted 14 years ago

    paarsurrey wrote:  Quote: ~There is superficial conflict but deep concord between science and religion: ... Religion is on ethical, moral and spiritual domains of the human life.Science focuses on the physical domain of the life and has hardly ...
    
    http://hubpages.com/forum/post/1224341

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    dutchman1951posted 14 years ago

    Hitler was not a foolish man nor an atheist. He know God, he knew psychology and the people of Europe well. In truth he would have been more the equivalent of a modern day Scientologist.
    
    His Mother was Catholic, (Austrian)  90% of the Country was at that time, and he was at odds with her about the belief as a youth. He questioned it, and he was afronted by it.
    
    And He was not fearful or afraid of the Jews at all, he had issues from his Mother, his child-hood and her work under Jewish owned business in his Native Austria.
    
    He hated the Jews because they had wealth and power, and he hated being poor. To him the Jews were an established economic class that held economic power over people. Responsible for his Mothers working herself to death in a factory.
    
    He blamed the Jews and the Super powers for the problems in Austria and Germany  and the state of the people there. He hated the idea of the Christian and Jewish basis for belief and that the Jews were chosen. He believed it kept populations poor and trodden- (enslaved)
    
    He was a student of "Hegemony"- Bruit force belief in Communism to control the masses. A member of National Socialists youth groups.
    
    Hitler knew exactly what he was doing. How to manipulate the People, how to manipulate their religion, and how to use peoples belief in God to overcome objections to gain their trust. He was a student of radical resistance.
    
    He was a cold and calculated psychopath, hungry for ultimate power. If he could not gain the trust and power over the people, he eliminated them.
    
    The Jews held the money, they were the Middle and Upper class at the time, and he wanted the money for power, so... he eliminated them to gain control, total control. And to get even for his fait growing up poor.
    
    Germany was devastated, by WWI and the Policies of the Super powers trying to re-build Europe. He learned from youth groups how to manipulate people and lead, and He saw a way to gain control and did just that.
    
    Survival of the Arian nation was an excuse, not his reasoning. He was a calculating man, a vile and vicious mind with mental Issues about his youth and mothers death.
    
    He knew exactly what he wanted, and how to Organize it,  but fallible in his calculations, because his hate for people outside of his country and race, and the want of power and money consumed him.
    
    The scary thing is, until he split his troops to fight on two fronts, he almost pulled it off!  Thank God he did not.

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    Diane Insideposted 14 years ago

    Hitler was not an atheist, I am quite sure the devil, believes in God.
    
    But it still makes him evil.

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       Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       i agree. 

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          Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

          Hey Steve, Hows it going?

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             Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             great thanks. how about yourself?  what have you been up to lately?

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                Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                I'm good, just been taking care of business as usual, you know holding down the fort.
                
                Glad to see your doing great.
                
                Thinking about getting a dog, just don't know yet.

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    pisean282311posted 14 years ago

    well hitler was no different than crusader guys...hitler atleast proved that manipulating masses in not just domain of religion...though religion does it best in manipulating masses and is most effective way till date...individuals too have shown their capacities...

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       Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

       well to be fair, religion idealistically was originally perpetuated to create peace and harmony.  To bring a sense of tranquility to the world.  It's mankind that uses religion to justify their own wicked acts, as the bible clearly states: "thou shalt not kill."  However, if you look throughout history, many people have been killed and crucified in god's name.  therefore, it's the ignorant people that uses religion to justify their evil acts, rather than the religion itself.

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          pisean282311posted 14 years agoin reply to this

          well you have valid point...but religion is only thing which has capacity to make really great humans and killing machine at same time..considering how dangerous religions have been through out the history ..one needs to discourage religion and make it as personal matter...what god , which god , who prays , who not...must be private matter rather than public domain thing...religion has directed human race in many ways but unfortunately when it comes to killing , it has shed most bloods too...

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             dutchman1951posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             I agree pisean, no perfect way or person, and keep all of it personal and away from goverment.

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             Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

             i agree. that's why i think it's wrong for religion to ever be mentioned in politics, as not everyone is going to have the same religious belief or lack thereof. 
             
             @diane inside
             
             that's cool.  im glad to hear your doing okay. i thought that dog you had in your avatar for awhile was your dog, but i guess im mistaken then.  lol.  what kind of dog were you thinking about getting?  if you ask me, you should get a little weener dog, like I had, as they tend to have a very likable personality.  in fact, it seems like my dog itchy used to always do something cute and funny when he was alive.  man, i miss that dog.

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                Diane Insideposted 14 years agoin reply to this

                Yes Steve, it was my dog, Cassie.  We had to give her to a nice family who lived out in the country, with children, so I know she is happy.  But we had to leave our home for about four months last year and couldn't take her with us. So instead of a shelter we found a nice family to take her.
                
                I've been thinking of getting another, for companionship, and for protection. I'm a big chicken you know.

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                   Stevennix2001posted 14 years agoin reply to this

                   im sorry to hear that.  well hopefully the next dog you get will be just as happy living with you guys.

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    Rajab Nsubugaposted 14 years ago

    Do chicken do dogs?

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