do christian worship jesus christ as form or formless?
My faith sustains Jesus as the Christ, a Savior and Redeemer. However, great care is taken in such worship. We do not display crosses or statues in our chapels. People are easily reigned in to idol worship which is counter productive to one's own progress.
how?...because if one worships idol ..mentally he/she is praying to same god as any other who is worshiping formless god..in end faith is same...so how is it counter productive?
Yes they do.
It general, Catholics/Christians worship:
An idol (statue)
An idol (a book) &
A man (who, yes, did those great works and made the sacrifice for them. And commanded them NOT to worship him.)
Then again, so it is with all religions,
To worship/idolize something is to put it between you and Creator, even for a second, causing a division.
This means ANYTHING made by Creator or by man, be it objects, thoughts, emotions, what have you. It is all idolatry.
Islam worships the Quran
Judaism worships Torah
Buddhism worships golden pagoda statues, etc.
This is Babylon.
And includes the equation side also:
intellectualism/education (the mind)
Yeah, I thought so, too. I'd completely forgotten that He said not to worship Him, but His Father. Oh, no, now we're going to get all kinds of people saying, "I thought they were the same personage". As a preemptive disclaimer, don't ask me. I don't know.
You're right about that. It's interesting the thrill athiests get from arguing with christians. Kind of goes against their own belief of no belief. More of them are actually anti-religionists,but that isn't as PC.
We respect the status of Christ, but don't worship. We worship God in the name of Jesus. God is #1, Jesus is #1 1/2, the half being the all man part as we are.
One of the Ten Commandments states:
You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below. You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God.
then why do we have statues of christ?...Islam has strict provision for that..they dont allow any imagination of allah and prohibit drawing muhammad and jesus as well...
I dont know why some Churches have statues of Christ, when God said not too. Perhaps they will answer you.
ok...so as per bible it is not allowed..right?
Shouldn't be. Key word "shouldn't."
Worship is shown in one's own actions, thoughts and intentions. We aren't to hang our progress on the (e)motionless images of porcelain or stone.
but then why do we have statue pf christ to start with?..
I've no problem with a statue of Christ as long as it's in the interest of pondering and reflecting and not in a setting to be knelt down and worshipped to.
Jesus is formless. He is spirit. I do have a small wooden cross, however I don't worship it. It is just a statement of my belief.
Isn't this great! That's the key to religious tolerance and understanding that I constantly preach about. I believe that Jesus Christ is resurrected in perfected tangible flesh and bone. Aside from that doctrine we do have common ground - Jesus Christ in whatever form we choose to believe him to be. Variety in belief and concept is good in my opinion. I thank you for your statement.
I'm confused. Are you saying that you believe that Jesus is alive today in human form? I believe that he does dwell with in us, in our human form.
Is that what your saying?
I believe that he lives in a perfected form of flesh and bone and resides at the right hand of the Father who I believe is also of perfected flesh and bone. Tabernacles of flesh and bone were denied those who chose the path of Lucifer in the war in heaven before the world was. I believe that physical bodies are essential to eternal progress and so we all, who chose Christ as our Savior before the world was, took on bodies in this life in order to progress and return to the presence of the Father.
Not starting an argument but just stating my personal faith.
No, I don't want to argue. We are each entitled to our own belief's. I have never heard that one. That's why I was curious.
Understandable. It's not a common or well received faith in the Christian community.
got that..then what is pic and statue which we see?...
Well, it is like the pictures of my children that hang on my wall. I love my children. The pic and statue is like that. I love Jesus. He can't be destroyed. The pic and statue can be. They are just statements saying we love him.
I meant to make that point too stilljustwonderin
because I was just wondering I really like many images that represent peace or strength , like doves, fire, etc. so yes I agree those decorative ornaments or adornments are statements of either belief or beauty, or even an expression of enhancing an environment.
However when any thing or image becomes adored or made sacred,this is what I understand the Lord to be against as expressed via the Commandment.!
The statue or image as we all know is not a living thing, therefore on its own is no more than plaster or stone , however when we adore or make it like a 'god' hearts then yes God has a made it known how he feels about that .
I agree. The cross sitting on the top shelf of my computer desk, the angels scattered around, are decorative. The cross, a statement that I do believe in Jesus and a gentle reminder of what he has done for us. I don't worship it. That decorative ornament can be destroyed. Jesus can't be.
you covered that well sis, so I do not need to say anything
Good morning brother!
Hope all is going well in your house this morning.
Yet those very things are what draw the attention away from Creator and increase the lust of the eyes, thoughts, images in the mind.
It is from an object -image- that caused Adam to do what he did. He was lured by things around him, listened to another voice and took his focus off the Creator for an instant. The result, he created an illusion within himself that he was naked, afraid, ashamed, separated, powerful on his own, unworthy, etc etc etc. Setting him on a course straight to his own demise. He chose to put those things (natural, supernatural, mental) between he & Creator. That was the sin: choice. Choice is the ULTIMATE idol.
Interesting to understand, yes?
I would say the Catholics are more guilty of this type of Idolatry. Their cathedrals are often full of idols. True christian doesn't even endorse worshipping a crucifix. It's an emblem of torture,no different then the rack,or an iron maiden.
I agree with this. At least, that Jesus is Spirit.
I too see the Cross as a statement and symbol of Christianity, a symbol of remembrance of His sacrifice and resurrection. The vacant Cross, not a crucifix. Hallelujah He is risen!
I don't have any statues and neither do the church/churches I frequent. I have owned pictures before that represented the likeness of Jesus, but those are similar to the Cross, a reminder of His Love.
uh no. read my hub, i think it's called why catholics pray to mary and why it's logical
anyway as a cradle catholic, i was never taught to worship statues. they are just nice to look at like holy pictures, they help us imagine what God looks like like holy pictures.
I've never worshipped a statue, it is idoltry.
words of wisdom, schoolgirlforreal,
as a Catholic I have never worshipped a statue, nor do I worship anything except My Lord God Jesus Christ.
As a Catholic I may ask Mary Queen of heaven to ask her son Jusus Christ to help me,I am still praying to Jesus not Mary or any other saint or person. As a Catholic I was taught to worship God.Never any statue, not even a statue of Jesus Christ. I conclude my prayers with Amen , never Amary
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