Yes!!!!!!!!!! Hebrew 4-
1 Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left [us] of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard [it].
3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
4 For he spake in a certain place of the seventh [day] on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
5 And in this [place] again, If they shall enter into my rest.
6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
7Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
8 For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
9 There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
Okay. So where is the debate? I mean, since you have it all right here, what are you after? There is nothing to discuss. You've got all the answers already.
I was ask a question by someone and this is the answer. I am not debating.
Exodus20:10 & 11 ... But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord; in it thy shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son etc. etc.
This commandment doesn't address anything except to take the day off. No work, that is all that it says?
Thou shalt do no work.
Technically speaking; ; isn't the preacher working on the Sabbath? This is the one day that he is expected more than any other day to stand up on stage and perform his duties.
Technically speaking; The congregation requires the preacher to break the Sabbath?
Perhaps it means 'paid' work? Because Jesus worked on the sabbath too!
In saying that it could be like earth when growing fruit or vegetables here. For six years you can cultivate, sow and harvest. In the seventh year, one is not meant to do either, so that the soil is able to regenerate much of the minerals etc that it loses to nourish whatever it grows.
If it is not done in this fashion then the fruit or vegetables loses its nutricious value and size. This is a natural process I might add. Without chemicals etc.
I rest more than one day does that matter?
Jesus did not always observe the sabbath, does that matter?
Almighty God said that oneday in seven was to be considered to be a Holy Day a Holy Sabbath Day, a day to be set aside to worship God and do no other.
So, what day do you worship Him?
What do you do the other six days?
Who was the sabbath created for?
Christian religion today recognizes Sunday as the Holy Sabbath, so I spend Sunday worshipping God Monday to Saturday is for working and earning to support myself and family. God ordered the seventh day as the Sabbath and ordered man to kee it as a holy day to worship God.
most Americans work 5 or 6 days a week,then take the seventh day off. after working six days Mon thru Sat, the seventh day is set aside for what ever, may be a little fishing, or going to church
Going to church to commune with like minded believers is a good thing.
We need to discuss all relative issues with like minded folks and those that think differently. This helps us to keep an open mind and grow in our faith.
I don't think that we can understand enough what, and why we believe what we do.
most Christians do not want to discuss the Word with people that do not believe as they do,
Jerami, I know you have ran into Christians that do not want to discuss your beliefs, kinda like running you head into brick walls, just does not do any good
there are a lot of Christians that is willing to discuss beliefs,
I visit a church once in a while that believe some things differently than I do, but I am always welcome to say anything that I feel like talking about
hoping everything is great there
Before I entered into the rest, I worshiped on Sunday. Adventists on the Sabbath, Witness' also on the Sabbath. If I were to imprison myself to any part of the Law, I must be imprisoned by the whole of it.
As I was led to believe, I turned over my personal interests at the edge of the water. When I was adopted, I adopted my Fathers wishes when I arose from the water. This is the day the Lord hath made, this is the day that belongs to him. I struggled for years with the fact that the church changed "the day". A few very sound Mentors helped me come to grips with entering into his rest, one of the points that led me to be Baptized as an adult.
I truly Love seeing those of you digging deep in these forums ...today. Not Saturday (sun down Fri. p.m.-Sat. sun down). Not Sunday (at least until I get home and NFL today comes on). Today, you are here hashing it out, each of you working out your own, personal, faith. Awesome! Let's just keep it up and see if we can be used to change the world!
Congratulations on being baptized. Your emphasis by capitalizing it is awesome. The real message on the day is found in Exodus 20: 8-11. The message begins with the word "Remember". As you keep this word in mind, remember that the sequence of days from the creation has never changed. God did rest on the seventh day-SATURDAY. We know it by this name.
If you know the history of why the day was changed, you would see that Sunday is not really the right day for us to worship. If you would like reading material on this, email me with your name and address and I will have it sent to you. I worship on the seventh day.
The Bible I read tells me to worship God all the time--every day,every hour and every minute.
Pray without ceasing
I like that. Makes more sense to me. Although I wouldn't use the term worship. I would rather use the term dwell in.
penny - give me your opinion on this. I have asked the question "When we love, is God in our heart or are we in His?"
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