Raised from the dead...please explain
More to the point - What nonsense wouldn't you consider to be proof of your Invisible Super Being?
Does narrowly avoiding stepping in a dog turd in the street count as proof of God's awesome love for his children? Tickets to Disneyland were mentioned by some one else.
Seems the proof is everywhere if you choose to believe this nonsense. Cannot imagine why you would need youtube videos.
Why would you need youtube videos? Having doubts?
Something that is impossible to fake. Did you know they can fake aliens on video? Magic too? Or do you believe harry potter and star wars are documentaries and totally fact based?
I know, if the dude literally stepped out of my computer screen to hand me some permanent keepsake of the experience, say something I could not easily happen upon on my own, like a diamond the size of my head. Basically I would believe it if the guy steps out of my monitor and I will testify it to be true when I have a proof in my hands that I could not fake.
Would you be interesting in buying a bridge?
I got a real corker out back you might want to buyEver seen the alien autopsies? They were fakes by amateurs and the result was amateurish and somehow totally believable to many many people, yet it was totally faked.
Oddly, claims of the dead being raised have been made by most religions at some point, are they all right then? God has many names and love playing us against each other so that we go to war in his name, both sides! Or is it just possible that people like fame? They like renown? They like power? They like being listened to and believed? That some people simply like messing with people? That some people want followers? That some people will stoop to anything to get a little attention? That some people use belief and religion as tools for gaining power over others? That people can be shits and liars?
Just sayin
Probably God tho, that guy is obviously more important and in God's graces more then the millions of children who have died of starvation, religious wars, and the diseases God made for us over the history of humanity
Normally, once someone begins to perform CPR on someone who isn't breathing, one of the first things they do is have someone else contact an ambulance to take the patient to the hospital.
Instead, they announce him "clinically dead" and move him to a bed somewhere. Huh? What's up with that?
Usually, when someone dies, their bodies muscles all relax, hence they usually soil themselves. The man's pants were dry and no excrement was released. Very odd, indeed.
The ambulance scenario might work where there is one. Do you know for a fact there s one wherever this happened?
Are we in the west the only ones who are qualified to recognise the dead as dead? (clinically or otherwise). I suggest to you, that maybe these people are MORE familiar with death than we. When was the last time you, or any average westerner, saw a dead body?
Thirdly, about faecal matter, I notice you mention usually, meaning you already allow for it not to be present. Usually does NOT mean always. I know for a fact it doesn't!
I'll have to find a topic just for you, so you can agree with me, so I can get some positive responses from you.
It would appear by the surroundings in the video they have all the modern conveniences around them, it would make sense they also have hospitals and ambulances.
Of course, you don't know for a fact the entire thing wasn't staged and the video is just a charade.
Strawman fallacy. Yes, I have seen dead bodies and have watched people die in front of me while I was attempting to save their lives. No one can state as fact that the man was clinically dead or otherwise by just watching the video.
Good for you. It wasn't present on the man in the video, giving more evidence to the possibility the whole thing was staged or he wasn't dead at all.
I just had a pint with God after work this evening.
He told me he was making his first attempts with video directing.
And he was very much amused with the way all these poor souls reacted.Yes, and Perseus went to the Gorgons lair and cut off the head of Medusa. True story.
- Too funny. I just wonder when they will stop attempting to bait, and allow some semblance of a serious dialogue.
I have to say that for the most part, neither side seem all that open to real meaningful dialogue. The atheist is primed to defend their right to not believe in god as is the religious person primed to defend their belief. No one wants to change their belief but want to change that of others, so there is no real dialog possible. I have watched it on both sides for years, both sides are as bad as each other
and cannot see it! The crux of the problem is the desire to change what another believes, either to save their soul or minimize the risks that religious extremists pose (wouldn't happen if people did not take religion quite so seriously me thinks).
The online world is a strange place, people seem to talk to each other very differently then real life. For all I know you are an atheist and Mark is a bible thumping preacher and you both are just bored!
In the end I have come to one simple conclusion, there is only one thing in this world I can really change to any controlled effect. The only thing I can change, to make it how I want it, is me. For this reason I don't 'do' religion. I actually have no respect for any religion, but I have heaps of respect for many religious people I have met. Christian, Muslim, Jew, Atheist, I have met some amazing and good people from all walks of life. I have also met some downright evil people from Christianity, know that there are evil Atheists, Muslims and Jews (never met one tho). I guess if I had not met so many evil christians and had a more ballanced experience set I would not consider the religion a tool of evil. but thats just me
That would be the distinction between ones personal feelings and the ideologies they embrace. It would appear that you have yet to make that distinction.
They aren't picking on you personally, they are picking on your ideologies, please try to distinguish between your personal beliefs and you yourself.
Good grief! How funny that you base your faith on this sort of thing. Sad too.
- just_curiousposted 13 years ago
0 It is nonsense. No one refuted it?
Interesting intellectual conumdrum you offer. First, you take any old video on YouTube and present it here for all to comment with the expectation that we are to come up with a solution based on what is presented in the video.
That's like asking us to explain how it is the Millenium Falcon can reach faster than light speeds based on watching the movie.
You know, as nasty as I can be to theists, I wouldn't go this far. I'll use phrases like that in the company of other atheists, but I just can't go to that degree of disrespect when communicating with a Christian theist.
I guess it's because it is just disrespect. It doesn't have any redeeming purpose, no attempt to educate, to get anyone's mind working. It just insults only for the sake of ridicule.
If this were a purely atheist forum, with no Christians reading, I'd mention some other things of a similar nature. But it is not, so I won't.
I bet that surprises more than a few people
Happy Valentine Day to all of you
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