Is it possible that someone lived over 2000 years?

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   davidkalugeposted 11 years ago

   I read some verse in the bible and I know most Christians usually believe things the way it is written without thinking deeper into its meaning. that is why they would say " the bible say..." okay jesus said in Luke 21: 32 " Assuredly, I say to you , this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place." in Luke 9: 27 he said, " But I tell you truly, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the kingdom of God" we know that it is over 2000 years since he said those words to those that stood with him. Does it mean some of them are still alive til now?

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      mmkn2011posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I believe that Jesus Luke 21:32 is meaning that the generation that sees the events described in Luke 21 actually happen, will not pass away before Jesus returns.
      
      Luke 9:27 is a little harder to explain, but you will notice that every gospel account of this statement (Matthew 16:28, Mark 9:1, and Luke 9:27 - I thought John had an account of it as well, but I cannot find it now), is immediately followed by the transfiguration where Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus. It appears all 3 gospel writers, associated the transfiguration with Jesus' statement, and therefore saw the transfiguration as a fulfillment of the statement in Luke 9:27. The transfiguration was a glimpse of Jesus in his heavenly glory, and hence in this sense the transfiguration can be seen as a glimpse of the kingdom of God.

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      paarsurreyposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think anyboyd could live physically for two thousand years, one cannot live even upto two hundred years.
      
      Luke must have understood the things incorrectly.

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      Shadesbreathposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      It means you have to learn what a metaphor is.

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         Cagsilposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         +1

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      lizzieBooposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      oh dear.

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      platinumOwl4posted 11 years agoin reply to this

      These quotes were   written  by Luke(allegedly) many years after the death of Jesus. The answer to your questions is yes. If you take the statement in context. That would be a type of personality ( in religion it's called a Bible types. Such as a person like Abraham or one of the other prophets. The replication of  an individual's characteristics Hope this will help you..

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      tom hellertposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      people living over 120 years is unlikely- BY any means we have at our disposal these days- unless someone has found the fountain of youth or the holy Grail- i don't think so...i dont care what anything says - life as you and I are experiencing it might last 120 years at most- but as it has been postulated here - does the bible relate to the "lifH" as ithe life of the spirit of a person could go on for 1000's of years- maybe  the soul reincarnates... and comes back agin and again for 1000s of years-
      TH

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   Sherlock221bposted 11 years ago

   From what Jesus said, it would seem that he believed the coming of God's kingdom would happen during the lifetimes of the generation then living.  It was believed that the battle of Armageddon would soon take place to be followed by the resurrection of the dead.  It was only as time passed, that it became obvious that this was not actually going to happen, and the development of the Church came to be seen as God's kingdom on Earth.

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   Jessicabloxposted 11 years ago

   For me.. A person can live for 2000 years in our hearts only.. Not really.. Like Jesus..

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   davidkalugeposted 11 years ago

   I do not understand how the transfiguration is related to what Jesus said or to the kingdom of God. Secondly, his disciples thought they would see his return but they died without his return. The point is that people just have to learn not to accept every word as it is written without knowing what the writer had in mind. The writer may express his view but the problem is that its God's word so not Luke's words. There are a lot of questions we can ask from that verse but the answers will differ.

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   DoubleScorpionposted 11 years ago

   I am curious of something... If Jesus did come back, would the "christians" even recognize him as such? As it stands right now, they can't even agree on the true meaning of the bible which is supposed to be the "word of god".

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      Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      I think the number that would accept him would be miniscule. But, if he turned out to be real, how many would anyway? I think we've all developed an idea of what spirituality means. If someone came in from a different angle than we were interested in accepting we'd  probably shrug and assume they didn't know what they were talking about.
      
      Look at who he was supposed to be. The son of a common laborer, no formal education, no money. No interest in finding followers, just a guy walking around spreading a message. How far would a messenger like that get in the world today?

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         DoubleScorpionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

         Exactly!!! That is the point I was wanting to get across. I am of the opinion that there will be alot of disappointed "believers" when death comes calling.

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            MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            If there is no afterlife, when exactly will believers be disappointed?

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               DoubleScorpionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I never said there was or wasn't an afterlife. Just that when death comes calling there are going to be alot of disappointed people. The majority of which would be the "believer" types.
               
               And it goes without saying, that if we just die and that is it, then there would be nothing felt.
               
               If there is in fact a "heaven" or some other paradise, then there is going to be some disappointed or PO'd people when it comes to who made it or didn't.

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            Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

            I think their disappointment is going to lie in the fact that can't lord an 'I told you so' attitude. I've seen some posts here where they are actually anxiously anticipating waiving at us as we march to hell.

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               MelissaBarrettposted 11 years agoin reply to this

               I think:
               
               DoubleScorpion wrote:
               Exactly!!! That is the point I was wanting to get across. I am of the opinion that there will be alot of disappointed "believers" when death comes calling.
               
               implies that the hope of being proven right is on both sides.

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                  Emile Rposted 11 years agoin reply to this

                  Did you doubt? Of course everyone would like to be right on the question of what happens after death.

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   optimus grimlockposted 11 years ago

   Many things in this world we'll never understand so it could happen but its unlikely!

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   psycheskinnerposted 11 years ago

   They will be dead, and so incapable of disappointment.

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      DoubleScorpionposted 11 years agoin reply to this

      You are correct, if there is no heaven or hell (afterlife). <shrugs> who knows for sure

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   Merlin Fraserposted 11 years ago

   NO !

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   Randy Godwinposted 11 years ago

   Jesus was supposed to be a great military leader, according to the so-called OT prophets.  I suppose god changed his mind yet again. 

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    davidkalugeposted 11 years ago

    Who said Jesus should be a millitary leader, I think the Jews expected that the messiah will a  kind of lead them in victory or something like that in war. that was why many of them did not believe in him

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       Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       The OT prophets predicted this.  Or rather, the alleged OT prophets. 

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          kimberlyslyricsposted 11 years agoin reply to this

          morning Randy

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             SomewayOuttaHereposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             ...mornin' KL!... 

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             Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

             Good morning, Kim!  How's life treating you? 

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    davidkalugeposted 11 years ago

    Randy, I know that the OT had different views of a messuah unlike what the Jews saw in the works of jesus. what actually were the views.

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       Randy Godwinposted 11 years agoin reply to this

       The OT IS the Hebrew bible, David.  The Jews place no stock in the New Testament because of the rather suspicious and self fulfilling nature used by the NT authors, whoever they were.  No real historical evidence for any of the NT claims of the messiah ever existing at all may have something to do with it.
       
       The claims of Joseph traveling to Bethlehem to pay taxes do not agree with Roman historical documents.  The anonymous NT authors all used incorrect information to base their fictional records on and others used theirs. 
       
       Reputable historians do not mention Jesus anywhere in their writings.  Nor corpses and darkness during the death of Christ.  I think they may have noticed dead folks wandering the streets and darkness and earthquakes during the day if it were to happen.  All pure fiction. 

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    lone77starposted 11 years ago

    No, David. It doesn't mean they lived to 2000+ years of age. They merely subdued ego and awakened their immortal true selves ("souls"), within.
    
    As the great Nazarene teacher said, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Each of us are non-physical, spiritual and immortal sources of creation, but most of us are sleeping. I'm only talking about the spiritual aspect. But as Genesis 6:3 states, we are also flesh -- Homo sapiens. And we are also ego, the source of all evil and the "self" which must be killed before we can gain everlasting life.
    
    The ones standing with Yehoshua would lift off the shackle of ego before their natural bodies died a few decades later. But because the spirit had awakened, when the body died, consciousness would continue; and this is the everlasting life of which he spoke.

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    vtwilliposted 11 years ago

    I believe it was possible for a person to live for 900 years was possible. When you take into consideration the chemicals and drugs now being ingested by humans it seems unlikely. However, the non-believer will auto-matically use science to despite any biblical reference. The truth is science and the bible goes hand in hand, science has proven many aspects of the bible to be true. Let me explain, The hebrew God Jehovah was a God of miracles, but just as he gives free will to choose he also cannot for ce tings into existence. He had to use clay toform Adam and Adam's rib to form Eve. So why isnt it possible that both the scienctific and biblical accounts of the great flood and the Exodus be true. God had to use nature to bring forth his will. Im getting off point; through nature he allowed man to live for countless years, also now through nature man is being destroyed. I am sure that without chemical pollution, drugs, preservatives, vaccinations, the internet, social influence, and STDs man could still live for ages. My Grand father pasted away last year in September. He was still a firecracker. His health began to fade fast in the last week his life. he didnt have Diabetes, he didnt have heart problems, he did not have cancer or any other illness...he just seemed like he gave up. Human will is extraordinary.

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    davidkalugeposted 11 years ago

    Lone77star, I understand the point you made however only those in the mystery will understand your concept. Your idea can be used to explain the question but some Christians do not believe in the soul and many do not know how to find the kingdom within and how to awake the sleeping giant.I have an article on this question, maybe it will help them to think deeper as they seek for the answers.Vtwill,the oldest man that lived was less than 1000 yr.old. Randy, you mean Romans didn't record the tax incident?

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