The Bible said what?

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   cheryloneposted 12 years ago

   I was raised catholic and I have one burning question that keeps coming up in my mind.  How was the bible written?  You see, there were no PC's or recorders back then.  Everything had to be written by hand, a time consuming and error ridden process that had to be based on the memories of the person writting them down.  No one could have recorded those times accurately, not even if they spent all night writting about what happened during the previous day.

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      Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      So true.

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think that's true at all.
      I remember, for instance, that when I was in grade school, one of my teachers said I had a photographic memory.   I could remember lessons word for word, line for line.  I had a huge interest in the particular subject, and a big motivation for doing well in that subject.   And while I don't exhibit that photographic ability now, I certainly do think the same thing (and even more profoundly) could happen with the spoken word and events if a person had that kind of interest in it.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your apprehension are valid.
      
      It is no imporatant as to what the Bible says; the important is as to what the Creator God said or says.

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   I don't know. I could be wrong, but the books of the Old Testament were kept intact by the Jews. I've seen documentaries on how they checked, cross checked and then found ways to diagonally check their copies. The New Testament appears to be fairly well intact.
   
   My issues with religion have little to do with the accuracies of the copies that have been passed down throughout history.

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      Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What do your issues have to do with then? I'm a very open-minded person. I like to discuss religion and religious beliefs with people. Not be judgemental or argumentative as I've seen from a lot of people on here. Yes I have MY own beliefs but they are mine and I do NOT PUSH them on anyone else.

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         Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I think you pointed out what issues I have in your post. People who push their agenda. Who use the name of a deity to hate, or think less of others. Other than that, I'm always curious to hear what others have to say on the topic.

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            Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            I feel exactly the same.
            
            I think Faith, Religion, Spirituality, etc is very PERSONAL and should be personal. Its a feeling you have within you.

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   Eaglekiwiposted 12 years ago

   http://www.allabouttruth.org/how-many-p … le-faq.htm
   
   How was the Bible written?
   
     They used palm leaves, and the likes to write on with reed pens using carbon inks. It is also said that in the still ancient times the scriptures were carried forward in form of poetry by memorizing it.
   
   There were no present day languages, but the languages like Hebrew which used to be written in picture forms. A small picture was capable of conveying a whole idea.
   
   
   http://www.truthnet.org/Bible-Origins/4 … /index.htm
   
   (Stone, rock ,lead pen)
   
   Probably similar to the early Mayan people, and other tribal people.
   
   Over 40 different authors spanning several years. Some authors were not recorded as well, so with that amount of people writing either one book or several would surely evolve with dominate themes.
   
   (Not many in my family can give a full account of my Great Grandmothers ,but with nine of us ,aunts and uncles,that makes 9plus different accounts- joined together ,we form a very good picture.)

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      Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      However, that is all it is just a picture or glimpse of the REALITY. I have already read the things in your links long ago. I have also attained reference and history books from the library for my research on the bible (which I have been conducting for over 10 years) and multiple other sources to try an decipher what it is actually MEANT to say or not meant to say. And believe me anyone who did that much research wouldn't believe a word of it. Yes what they used and things is accurate. BUT it wasn't written in ENglish as it is now. It was pictures, hebrew, then moved on to being translated numerous times. Its like the old "phone line" they had you do in school or that you played with friends as a child.
      Take a couple sentence phrase, tell it to the next person in their ear and have them continue to pass it on until it gets back to you and then look at all the differences in that sentence compared to when YOU said it the first time. It's amazing how the human mind works.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes, it's called "Chinese Whispers" in which the story changes over time from those who "memorize" it.

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         Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I guess you also think that no one had any history ,until the white man invented a printing press..Oh dear

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            So, you bring in another concept altogether in hopes of defending your argument?
            
            For sure, there were no such things as Bibles until the printing press was invented, which wasn't until 1440. How do you think people knew anything about the Bible prior to that?

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               Eaglekiwiposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               How do we know about the Mayan people?
               
               How do we know about scientific principles for that matter. How did anyone record anything..
               
               You work it out ,I strongly doubt you will accept any of my answers.

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                  A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Another diversion? Can't stick to the subject matter? Need to inject other concepts into your argument as the only way to defend yourself?
                  
                  
                  
                  Your answers are pure baloney, you make things up as you go along, with absolutely no integrity or honesty whatsoever, with Bible clenched firmly in hand, even though you've never read it.
                  
                  

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   cheryloneposted 12 years ago

   Wow everyone, thanks for all the input, it gives me a lot to think about.

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      Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Your welcome

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      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Actually, there are no pictograms attributable to the ancient Hebrews, and the first letters are no more ancient than Moses. Moses was raised in the house of Pharoah, and was top-o-the-line literate. NO biblical writings in existence are older than Moses, and it does seem plausible that the pre-egyptian stories were passed down from generation to generation vocally. (But you never know what the experts might dig up.)

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         Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         I did not state pictures BY Hebrews. I said there were pictures, hebrews then I guess I should have put an etc. What do you call cave paintings if they are not pictures to you??

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   The dead sea scrolls lasted almost 2000 years as an accurate record of what the author wrote.  The floppy disks holding my thesis from 1999 are unreadably corrupted already.  Old tech can be good tech.
   
   By a Catholic reckoning men write the gospels as inspired by God but in their own vernacular. So they record what the writer intended them to, and only that.

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Their own vernacular or not, what they claimed as inspired by their god contained a bunch of childish threats.
      
      
      "Then Moses said, 'Anyone who will not listen to that Prophet will be cut off from God's people and utterly destroyed."   (Acts 3:23 NLT)

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         OutWestposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That is probably more of a fact than a threat.  But then again the bible is a symbolic book not a litteral one anyway.

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            A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed. The Bible is 'symbolically' intolerant, barbaric and psychotic.

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               Tlherald85posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               I would have to agree with you Troubled.

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   Da-Da to my Aliposted 12 years ago

   The scripture were originally written from long-standing oral tradition passed on to each generation of Jews.  Factual accuracy is often close to other written historic accounts,but other times, questionably inaccurate.
   
   As I studied and learned about the Bible, I eventually came to the conclusion that it's a collection of spiritually uplifting and hope-inspiring stories.  The truth of it is irrelevant.  It gives a positive direction to a world that needs one.

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      earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Uplifting?
      
      
      "I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD.  "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die.  I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD.  "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.  I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear.  For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars.  They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too.  So now I will destroy them!  And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do.  They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings."   (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)

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         amymarie_5posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         " For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars.  They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech"
         If I'm not mistaken, this passage acknowledges dieties other than the christian / hebrew god.  That's very interesting.

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            earnestshubposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            "I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD."
            
            
            That about covers everyone I reckon.  
            
            What a pile of infantile psychotic dribble!

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   Da-Da to my Aliposted 12 years ago

   When you assume...          you know the rest, right?

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   Alexander Markposted 12 years ago

   The Bible is a self-agreeing collection of writings - and again many people will argue that fact. But it is our point of view, the way we approach the Word that can influence the way we see it. It is NOT wrong to question what you do not know, but any verse in the Bible can be used to fuel a cult philosophy and the point of view used to justify a twisted understanding may be correct in its own format. 
   
   So if you want to seek God, you first need to seek with the belief that IF God is real, he will lead you to understanding about him. You don't even have to believe in him, as long as you are willing to be open minded, he can reveal himself to you. If he doesn't exist, no one will answer your questions or satisfy your search.
   
   If I believe in God, in all his miracles and that he has raised people from the dead, especially his own son to demonstrate his love for us, then it isn't a far leap to believe that God has preserved his inspired word throughout all of mankind's history. Meaning that if God is God, then he is certainly capable of the relatively small miracle that keeps his inspired words pure.
   
   I believe in God, and I believe in the Bible and that it is THE word of God. I have always found it to agree with itself when I look at the entirety of the word.

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