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the truth aboute the messiah

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    darknight444posted 6 years ago

    The holy coran describe the greate truth aboute the messaya son of marry that he is:
    1.     the messaysa is e human being created just as all of us was created allah say : (Then she pointed to him. They said: How can we talk to one who is in the cradle, a young boy? (29) He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet,)

    2.    the messaysa is e profet and e messenger to the children of Israel allah say : (The Messiah, son of Mary, was no other than a messenger, messengers (the like of whom) had passed away before him. And his mother was a saintly woman. And they both used to eat (earthly) food. See how We make the revelations clear for them, and see how they are turned away! (75))

    allah say (He is nothing but a slave on whom We bestowed favour, and We made him a pattern for the Children of Israel. (59))


    3.    jesus was e greate exemple of faith and devotoion to all humanity like all the other profets  allah say (He spake: Lo! I am the slave of Allah. He hath given me the Scripture and hath appointed me a Prophet, (30) And hath made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive, (31))

    4.    the true goal to complete the message of moses to the children of israel allah say : (And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil). (46))
    5.     e greate function of jesus is to preach with the coming of Mohamed the laste profet allah : (And when Jesus son of Mary said: O Children of Israel! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah unto you, confirming that which was (revealed) before me in the Torah, and bringing good tidings of a messenger who cometh after me, whose name is ahmed. Yet when he hath come unto them with clear proofs, they say: This is mere magic. (6))
    6.    The end of jesus was not by crufixtion but he was raised into paradise abd the crusfixtion didn’t enter to crisiatnity faith only after e centrys of his end allah say (And because of their disbelief and of their speaking against Mary a tremendous calumny; (156) And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah's messenger - they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain. (157))

    1. Disappearinghead profile image78
      Disappearingheadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Muhamed was telling lies.

    2. Dave Mathews profile image60
      Dave Mathewsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      You can write and spout your Muslim Propaganda all you want to if you can find someone to listen or read what you have to say. Christians know the truth about God and the truth about Jesus from the Holy Bible. Christians like myself will never accept what you have to say for our truth is from God himself.

      1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
        Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        Wow. Two books, the bible and the koran. Which is true? How do you decide? I guess you were'nt born in the east a brought up to believe the koran huh?

        Religion is geographical. If you were born in Saudi you would be muslim.

        Both books have just as much proof. At least the god in the koran is of the same character as the god in the old testament. If anything, I would say that the new testament stands out.

        Of course it's fairly obvious that it is just as true as santa claus. Be good and you'll be rewarded, be bad and you'll be punished, and wherever you are, he's watching you.

        I grew out of my belief of santa very early. I never believed in god though. To be completely honest, I cannot understand how any grown adult can believe in such a fairytale. Also, if you take this as an insult (as many do) then I put it to you that you are only insulted because you know your belief is childish. Otherwise you wouldn't be insulted. Right?

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          brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Wow. Two books, the bible and the koran. Which is true? How do you decide?

          You look at the message.
          Jesus prophesied the temple destruction, end of the age and future world to come. Muhammed prophesied nothing.
          Jesus worked miracles of healing, control of nature, resurrected, etc. Muhammed healed no one, controlled nothing of nature, and definitely did not resurrect.
          Jesus preached love, muhammed war
          Jesus said, deny the flesh. Muhammed has orgies in heaven

          Also the timing. A mere 600 yrs after Jesus' crucifixion on the cross God is supposed to ignore all that and push some other doctrine. The crucifixion is timeless until Jesus comes back as king and rules the world. That just makes sense. The crucifixion is to important and priceless to just be forgotten a mere 600 yrs when the OT law existed for 4,000 and the NT for 2,011 and counting.

          Never has an angel of God been given the task of preaching a covenant. No angel has ever instigated covenant procedures. It is simply, not an angels task. All through the OT angels just carry out orders, yes they explain visions and they will tell what is going on, like in Mary's situation, but they never preach belief systems. Not to joseph smith and not to muhammed. And certainly, of absolute certainty angels would not speak of anything that contradicted Jesus mission because as we read in
          Daniel 7
          Daniel 7:13   I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.
            Daniel 7:14   And there was given him
          dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.
          Jesus is this son of man, whom has been given all things by the ancient of days - God. So a lesser being cannot institute covenant or describe another belief system. The lesser never surpasses the greater when it comes to things of this nature.

          Religion is geographical

          [b] Not true. If that were a black and white statement then there would be no charge to preach the gospel to all nations. Since people in Nations around the world have come to jesus christ that makes your statement, both pretentious and thoughtless
          .

          Of course it's fairly obvious that it is just as true as santa claus

          Santa clause
          1) giving once a year
          2) comes down chimneys
          3) rides a magic sleigh
          4) goes all around the world in a single night
          5) lives at the north pole
          6) no mention of sin
          7) no offering of salvation

          God
          1) give all year round
          2) probably omits chimneys lol (cudn't resist)
          3) no magic sleigh
          4) is all around the world constantly
          5) lives in his peoples hearts
          6) definitely mentions sin
          7) offers salvation

          I would say the two are not comparable.


          then I put it to you that you are only insulted because you know your belief is childish. Otherwise you wouldn't be insulted. Right?

          Christianity is NOT a childish belief because people of ALL AGES become Christians: from 10 to 110. How can you say a belief is childish if grown adults accept it? Your childish remark is boorish. Some people let the persuasive evidence persuade them not bark out flippant jargon because they are upset they can't understand any of it.
          Christianity is NOT a childish belief because it takes internal fortitude to stand up and Be a christian. Its not something one hides in a shoebox. Its a way of life that in some countries will cost you your life and it has cost some people their lives.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image61
            A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            You partially answered your own question. smile

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              brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              I had a question?

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      brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      "the true goal to complete the message of moses"

      Since the message of moses was completed in Jesus, as your book says, what need is there for another prophet?

      Every wonder why there is so much similarity in koran and catholicism? Why both revere mary above what the bible says to do. More polytheistic crap. koran is just another secret branch of catholicism, made by catholics to wage war on christianity.

      Your koran even reads like a comic book

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      brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      6.  The end of jesus was not by crucifixion but he was raised into paradise and the crucifixion didn’t enter to christianity faith only after e? centuries of his end allah say

      This is Paul writing in 55AD.. 23yrs after the death of Jesus:
      1 Corinthians 15:1   Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
        1 Corinthians 15:2   By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
        1 Corinthians 15:3   For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
        1 Corinthians 15:4   And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day
      [b] according to the scriptures:


      So not true about the centuries after therefore allah did not say. Also the OT speaks of Christ dying, a new covenant and his resurrection so again, Allah did not say anything contrary to the OT.

  2. knolyourself profile image60
    knolyourselfposted 6 years ago

    And so what?

  3. A Troubled Man profile image61
    A Troubled Manposted 6 years ago

    Muslims obsessed with Jesus. Video at eleven.

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      darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      noo but it s just e claification to cristians

      1. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        lol Muslims providing clarification of Jesus to Christians? Priceless! lol

      2. aka-dj profile image78
        aka-djposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        This is not clarification!

        This is a total contradiction.
        And from where? 600 years after the fact, written by someone who hates Jews, and only had "revelation" (I use the term very loosely).

        Some clarification! hmm

        BTW, Christians don't need/want any clarification from Islam, thank you very much.

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image79
          Mikel G Robertsposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          hmm I thought you were an Atheist?

          1. aka-dj profile image78
            aka-djposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Did you?

            Huhh. Caught out.
            You didn't read my profile. lol

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          darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          it s the point how an arabe know all of that????
          did he made it up or ti was revealed to him

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            Emile Rposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            How did an arab know? The same way anyone knows what other religions preach. And you can see it in the quran. He misunderstood a lot about Christianity, but he had a broad stroke understanding. Typical of having listened with half an ear to  other people talking.

            It's those fallacies in the quran that show it to be a deviation from the faith started by the Israelites. Not a natural progression; neither could it have been a clarification.

          2. aka-dj profile image78
            aka-djposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            Her made it up.

            If it was true revelation, it would be same, or very similar.
            It's NEITHER.

            I said before, so I say again :
            This is not clarification!

            This is a total contradiction.
            And from where? 600 years after the fact, written by someone who hates Jews, and only had "revelation" (I use the term very loosely).

            Some clarification!

            BTW, Christians don't need/want any clarification from Islam, thank you very much.

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    kirstenblogposted 6 years ago

    How silly, squabbling over fairy tales roll

    Everyone knows the Great Flying Spaghetti monster sent the holy Tagliatelle into the world to show us the delicious path to pasta heaven.

    http://images.mylot.com/userImages/images/postphotos/2178501.jpg
    The Spaghetti Monster is with you. Blessed are you among sauces, and blessed is the spice from your shaker.

    1. Hollie Thomas profile image59
      Hollie Thomasposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      lol

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      brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Its interesting that you have this belief.

      Where did you discover this documentation?
      were there any eyewitnesses to this monster?
      Is it dead and buried somewhere?
      How big is the following?
      Did it leave behind a book?
      how is spaghetti, which is so fattening, likened to heaven?

      shall we squabble over your fairy tale smile   <-- just so ya know - fairy tale is not a come on. I am not hitting on you. Gotta be careful.

      1. A Troubled Man profile image61
        A Troubled Manposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        It was revealed by the FSM.



        As many as any other holy book. None.



        Gods can't die.



        Huge, it is the fasted growing religion in the world today.



        Gods don't leave behind books, men write them, just like your holy book.



        It isn't. Spaghetti is far more superior than heaven.



        Why? Had enough squabbling over your fairy tale? lol

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          brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Well you got one right.

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    Arcjahadposted 6 years ago

    Muslims believe in the immaculate conception but also that the messiah was just a human man but I have a question about Mohammed I need answered. Every prophet of the bible to include the messiah and his apostles all called the creator by his personal name which was given to Moses at the bush which is YHWH  , now I know the creator has many titles but he has only one personal name . If Mohammed was truly a prophet why didn't he know the creators personal name ? Please answer the question so far most Muslims make excuses for this question

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      darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

      thank you thank you
      you re   YHWH  who sleep and have wemen like marry who slep and fall in his bed
      hhh thise is why islam say that crisitan and jews are disbeliver and hell will eat them because the lies that thy say aboute ther maker

      the almighty allah is not e huuge guy that liive in the sky
      he is youre maker and no one saw how he look like even moses only mohamed his laste profet did  soo why you say that he look like man ???

      allah is the mercifu;l the evre knowing; the ever hearing; the biautiful  he existe before the universe and he will existe after the universe is gone

      just tell me how you attribeu good qualitys to ppl and think that god dont have them

      mohamed describe the greatest hapiness in paradise is looking to youre maker

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        Disappearingheadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        What are you talking about? I've never heard of Christians or Jews saying that God had a bed into which women fell and God slept with them?!!?!

        Is this the sort of propaganda that Islamic children are taught? Like the one where heaven is populated with nymphomanic virgins for the men to shag forever, and beautiful flowers for the women to put into nice vases?

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          darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

          yes thy did thy say (YHWH / jusus )sleep  (YHWH / jusus ) have sex with his owne mother marry to produce him self again and  (YHWH / jusus ) will do it again to bring jesus to life in thise earth again

          do thise appaire to you as islamique faith confused by stupid and ignorrant ppl

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            brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

            hahahahahahaha

            Go read about zeus, it amounts to the same thing.

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              darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

              but it the truth

              i canot understand critianity faith it s just soo complexe trinity or thise YHWH/jesus

              it just soo simple ;give up the idea that jesus is devine and he is the son of god and belive that god is one just as jesus call you in the gospel and evry think will be claire

              jesus is e profet and e messenger of god and evry idea that contradict with that it will contradict with the gospel

              1. Disappearinghead profile image78
                Disappearingheadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                roll

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                Greek Oneposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                evidently English and/or finding the spell check button on HubPages is complex for you too... but both still exist

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                brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                If you cannot accept trinity then forget about it, skip it for now.
                    According to the gospels the divinity of Jesus is clearly defined.
                Do you acknowledge that the soul represents the life of the body, that, soul and the life therein, are one; The flesh, animated - having life is one entity including thoughts. IF so, then the fullness of God dwelling in the body becomes easier to understand. 2 entities. Soul and Spirit of God. Therefore having God IN Jesus (the name of the flesh) gives Jesus his divinity. No other prophet had such Spiritual influence as to be led by the Spirit constantly - all the time - living and working within flesh. This gives Jesus his deity. Past prophets only had the spirit of God on loan, temporarily.
                     Jesus was uniquely different in that God prepared himself a body and inhabited it to be the last sacrifice - a sinless lamb of God. All other great men of God had sins and sinned. In order to qualify as a lamb without spot, wrinkle, blemish or any such thing - which were the qualifications for the animal to be sacrificed (a healthy and whole animal) -Jesus had to be sinless. One time deal. One shot at it. Is he going to leave this up to a mere man? Is he going to risk anything at all to produce this sacrificial offering? I don't think so.
                     Jesus foretold the destruction of the temple and everything had to be done by then. If this new covenant were not instituted by the time the temple was destroyed then all was lost. The stakes are too high, there is too much involved. Jesus had to accomplish all his purpose before the temple destruction, otherwise the jews were left without a temple to sacrifice at and still under the Law. Is the temple rebuilt to this day? no. Therefore, God had set things in motion according to His omniscience and occupy a fleshly body and fulfill the Law to end the covenant of Law (OT) in due time.
                When we look at things like:
                Jesus rebuking the wind and sea, all other prophets prayed to God first before the act happened, Moses had to stretch out his rod to divide the sea, elijah had to pray over an altar to bring down fire, yet Jesus just said "stop". Jesus himself had command over nature unlike any predecessor. Look at the way Jesus handled himself; confident, never prone to self doubt, never debating what to do next, he was in full control of every situation.
                By age 13 Jesus was debating the rabbis about scripture, something he should not have been doing until age 50 or at the very least age 30.
                Jesus knew he was sent to the Jewish nation, he knew he came to establish a NEW covenant. Who else in the whole bible establishes covenant - God.
                Theres so much more, but thats all i want to mention for now.

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                  darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  hh thise is the probleme

                  devine or devinly guided is the deiffrence between e profet and god
                  pls re read my frst posts i post 2 and read the coranic verses

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                    brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    all other prophets before Jesus were not equal with Jesus. Jesus mission was not to be a prophet, but to be so much more.

    2. pennyofheaven profile image78
      pennyofheavenposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      Where did you get that the creator had only one personal name from?

  6. Rhonda Elisha profile image61
    Rhonda Elishaposted 6 years ago

    Arcjahad,

    For, to understand a man, one must walk his path's, being the route of learning of him. I wrote out some information that may interest you on the hub (titled) "The Children of Jacob (Israel) and Esau (The Muslims)." Noted, is the general outline in their role with the Lord Yeshua the Messiah scriptural (biblical) history of their existence. I hope this will help in your understanding!

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      Arcjahadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      I will check out your hub but I was really looking for a Muslim to answer my simple question but they seem unable to answer it

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        darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

        hey pls ask me

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          Arcjahadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

          Since Muslims also read and believe in the old testament  every prophet , the messiah and the apostles all called our creator by his personal name which was given to Moses in Exodus . Why didn't Muhammed call the creator by his personal name? I don't want the excuses of the many titles he is called by because every prophet knew the name YHWH

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            darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

            ahh thise take me back where the cristian debate that we dont have the same god because we call our god  allah

            1 it could be just e translation probleme jesus and moses were from the same nation thy were both

            2 the probleme is not in the name but what attirbue to the name liek god have e son and god is e the father of humain bieng and jesus is the son of god thise  attribues are the problemes

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              aka-djposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              These attributes are the very foundation of the Christian faith.
              Of course you doubt them. They are totally CONTRARY to Islam, (and every other religion.)

              So, your biggest dilemma is, IF you believed what we Christians believe (the TRUTH) about Jesus, and the Father, you too would become a Christian.
              Now that would be very dangerous for you.
              Don't Muslims kill other Muslims who convert to Christianity?
              In the least, they would disown you, right?

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              Arcjahadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

              @darknight  I know the word Allah is a Arab translation for the English word God but I asked why didn't Muhammed know the creators personal name like the other prophets did if I'm correct I believe that the angel Gabriel delivered the messages to Muhammed the same angel that told Maryam that she would be carrying the messiah so I guess he forget to tell Muhammed that hey Allah is a title for the creator his personal name is YHWH not God,Lord, Allah,or Elohim because these are titles for him

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                darknight444posted 6 years agoin reply to this

                it s just e stupid name and the attribues

                YHWH  god of the jews now if we use thise name it means that he is not e god of all humanity and only e god of the jews

                soo thise name was never mentionne in islam because it false even that god choose the children of israel for e long time but he is the maker and the creatoer of all the huamnity and he sent mohamed not from the children of israel but as an arabe  to all humanity

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                  Arcjahadposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                  You call the creators personal name stupid wow you Muslims are more twisted than I thought your worst than a Christian that is a trinitarian , well there is nothing more I can say to you except for hopefully one day you may understand the full glory of his personal name

                  1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
                    Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years agoin reply to this

                    You call muslims twisted and you believe there is a magic man watching over all of us who noone can see or deonstrate to exist?

                    You do know that is a sign of mental illness?

    2. livelonger profile image94
      livelongerposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      No, Ishmael (Esau's and Jacob's uncle, and Isaac's half-brother) is supposed to be the ancestor of the Arabs.

      Esau was the ancestor of the Idumeans.

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        brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

        I believe Ishmael is the ancestor of the arabs

  7. MelissaBarrett profile image61
    MelissaBarrettposted 6 years ago

    Wow, sock puppets run rampant again...  roll

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    janesixposted 6 years ago

    If you people can't tell the OP is just effing with you, you all are retarded. Those spelling mistakes are obvois fakes. Dumb.

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      brotheryochananposted 6 years agoin reply to this

      not that obvois  smile

 
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