I have used Facebook on several occasions, and I can see why it's so popular. It can help bring all your old friends back in contact from when you were in school or from your old job. However more and more people are using it to talk to the people in there current lives, is it becoming the main way of talking to people? I've always preferred picking up my phone and talking to the person, and asking to meet them instead of only talking through computer screens. And with all the recent security risks, is it really worth throwing away the chat over a pint for a chat on the screen?
I don't know about good or evil, but I do know that all the applications that come with it are bloody annoying. It trivializes communication, although I have found it a useful tool for keeping in touch with friends in other countries. But we can have better conversations here on HubPages than I've ever had on FaceBook. . .
The communication with distant friends and family is where Facebook comes in useful. I have seen a situation where family members are all in the same household, having conversations over this site, instead of actually going to see the person and talking face to face. I guess it means they can talk to their friends at the same time, but I think a situation like that would have a negative affect on closer relationships.
I completely agree. I feel that facebook is a great networking tool. It has helped me keep in contact with friends and has put me back into contact with older friends. However, the countless applications lessen my enjoyment of facebook. I do not find "superpoking" someone to be a healthy form of communication. What's more annoying for me is that my names begins with "A." So, when someone clicks on that tell your friends about it button on every one of these applications, my name sits frowning at the top of that list!
You know, I don't even have a Facebook account. Blessing or curse? I dunno, but it makes me wonder reading your post.
basically annoying to me with friends throwing things at me that I don't want. Ironically, I've decided to use it to promote my writing from this month onwards. Look out, I'm coming to get you.
Those aps are super annoying, aren't they. But I do them sometimes. Some of them are fun. The nice thing is that you dont' have to accept any of them. You can even chose who you want to accept from. And you can chose how you get informed about aps and such so that you don't have to be bothered with them each time you log in.
Me and one of my friends were discussing this today. He was giving me a hard time because I don't have a facebook account, but I just never had the urge to set one up, mostly because of security/privacy concerns.
Now this is another reason I'm not so keen on the service. Everyone I know on the system has included true personal information, including pictures. People may argue that it is secure and that you have to actually accept a friend request before they can see your information. However even the most secure systems can be hacked, and a recent news bulletin about hackers now targeting this network really gets me thinking.
They have actually had a lot of issues regarding the privacy of images.
Last year, a guy named Byron Ng figured out how to easily access private images, accessing Paris Hiltons account among many others I am sure.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23785561/
More recently I read an article that stated vulnerabilities still exist, allowing people to view images, although I have not seen any other reports confirming these allegations( lightbluetouchpaper.org/2009/02/11/new-facebook-photo-hacks/ )
Well, yes, but we still have a choice as to what it is we're choosing to put into facebook, for example.
Yes we have a choice, and as adults we know the risks. But what about our children, it's an excellent place for people who practice false identites, and want to contact vulnerable people.
That's why I'm on top of mine like a hawk. Despite their young ages, we have never held back on informing them of risks and who "can" be out there. When they are on the computer, I am where I can see what is on the screen. I monitor what they do,and I block sites. It is difficult sometimes, because my oldest has friends that do that sort of thing all the time. But I don't and won't budge. Parents don't seem to do this to the extent that I do. They don't want to think about the bad out there. I don't either, but as a parent I have to think and do what's best.
That's good, because some parents just don't know the risks, and don't know what to do about them. watching and blocking their usage is a great way of protecting them. However, these social websites are the loophole in this. You probably wouldn't stop your child from having a Facebook account, as it's popular and considered 'secure'. What's not to say those certain people out there, haven't created a fake account and are trying to get to them. If the child's open, and accepts any invite, then that person also has access to their pictures and some personal information. How many horror stories have people heard where people pretend to be other people and lure children in to a false sense of security, where they then try and arrange a meeting to introduce themselves. Yes there are genuine people out there, but not always.
Ah, but my kids aren't allowed to have facebook or myspace, or any of those things. For just that reason.
Asking whether Facebook is good or bad is like asking if a scalpel is good or bad.
A scalpel can kill, or save lives. It all depends how it is used.
Use of social networks is the same.
I disagree.
My kids have facebook, but do not use their surnames.
I teach them how to use it so that they become aware of all the stuff that goes on, and how to avoid getting into trouble.
By denying them something that all their friends are probably using may just force them "
underground", and set up accounts without your knowledge.
Cheers, Eric G.
That is an excellent point and something that I think many people forget when they begin using social sites like facebook and myspace. I certainly wouldn't ever recommend uploading anything to the Internet that you would not want getting leaked.
However, with that said, I don't think it is unreasonable to expect an image that you set to private to be treated as private.
ive found that although I have a rather large network of previous friends/acquaintances/classmates etc. that there is a reason why we lost touch in the first place.
But it is a great marketing resource for posting updates about your hubs and other online projects especially if your network has interests on par with your content - facebook is in my top 5 of referring sites
You know, I find that too. Connecting was great, and I'm still greatful for it, but my excitement about reconnecting with some people very soon lost its sparkle. On the other hand, I have become close friends with acquantances that I was not very close with but that I really click with now.
it is really good...i am enjoying with my facebook account...some friends i coudnt contact through phone or email i got in contact with them with face book.its really amazing to get in touch with your known people...thats true some people mis behave with it but what will say....each coin has two face...so nothing new about it....from me thumbs up to facebook.
I agree. And especially with girls, our names change and it's harder to get into contact with friends that for no reason than college or marriage or family move, you've lost touch. It's amazing how many old friends I've come back into contact with. And just being able to say hi if nothing else, is a great thing and I am thankful to facebook for it.
Good or evil I know not. I just don't trust it. Maybe i don't want to connect with people I have lef behind and certainly don't need them anymore. Also I have security concerns and I fear to put anything up there for them to own forever, thereby giving them rights to my stuff.
I wrote a hub on this, and since writing it, they have totally changed their terms. I've got a link to the new info there since I can't get to writing an update hub on it yet.
It's an excellent point when you say there's a reason you lost contact in the first place. However in some cases when an old friend or even a settled ex has contacted me by text or phone, a better friendship had been made, and two people in my life that I use to know in school have contacted me after many years apart, and we are now closer than ever.
One thing got me fuming the other day when I remembered. An ex of mine use to invite me round to have some quality time, and we struggled to see each other in the first place due to the distance, so every moment we had was special. However almost every occasion she would simply turn to me and say 'I'm gunna check my Facebook', and it was a struggle to get more than a word out of her during these session (that weren't that short either) then again you could probably argue that she weren't that into me, however could this be an indication that these sites are becoming addictive. A recent news report has questioned whether these sites are affecting younger children who are being introduced to these sites at an early age.
I think it has a lot to do with our desire to socialize. It's free, you can connect however you want and in ways that you couldn't otherwise because of time and, in the younger generation homework etc.. Not everyone we know lives next door. Communities aren't as tightly knit as when we were growing up. As for the older crowd, we still have that desire to socialize but we work too much, worry about our pennies, and let's face it, we're too tired to go hang out. Facebook offers a way to socialize without being glued to the phone, which we overuse anyway, or having to stick to a conversation. We can go back and and forth in our lesiure. It's low pressure socialization.
Yes it's a great way to socialise, and sometimes it's a lot easier just to leave a message for people. But don't you find that more and more people are preferring this kind of communication over actually speaking to the person. It's a fantastic break away from the stresses in life when you hang out with the people who are important to you. I'm afraid that people will rely too much on these types of services that they might even forget what their best friends voice sounds like!
Yes, you're right. We tend to fall into what is easy. I often times forget what friends' voices sound like. I think about this fact often. And when they call and you actually don't recognize them, that is the worse. I myself personally prefer to socialize. I read a hub by jim10 about arcades and made a comment on there you should check out and you'll see my thoughts on this. We miss out on the "energy" that face to face socialization gives us. And this energy is so so so important. But what do you do when everyone would rather facebook than meet?
Yes, you're right. We tend to fall into what is easy. I often times forget what friends' voices sound like. I think about this fact often. And when they call and you actually don't recognize them, that is the worse. I myself personally prefer to socialize. I read a hub by jim10 about arcades and made a comment on there you should check out and you'll see my thoughts on this. We miss out on the "energy" that face to face socialization gives us. And this energy is so so so important. But what do you do when everyone would rather facebook than meet?
I do not know if it is good or evil. I had an account with facebook for quite some time which I have not used after registering. I started using it 2 days back after seeing a seo article about the traffic it could generate.
While surfing internet, it depends upon you whether somthing is good or bad for you.
I really enjoy my Facebook. I have found folks that I haven't seen in ages, and we didn't part ways cause they sucked, was just life. And now I can just send a quick "hey" over to them, it's nice to know people are thinking about you. I LOVE knowing what my friends are doing pretty much anytime of the day.
BUT I can absolutely see where it enables us to be lazy, sit on our butts and not get out and actually have the face to face interactions with people. I miss the day in age where it wasn't so easy to just IM someone and satisfy your want to chat with them.
For this reason I am fine with the service, just general updates and seeing how someone's doing at the end of the day is OK, as long as it's kept in proportion. But when you see people becoming lazy, and deciding that they're always talking from their computer, sort of makes you wonder what type of relationship that is. They say that all relationships need constant repair, and I can't see Facebook being adequate enough to do this.
Facebook I do not approve nor myspace as it is to open to the world and I will not allow my son to be on it either, pedophiles roam those places just my opinion.
It took me less than 2 months to contact my old school friends after opening an account with Facebook. Some of those friendships are priceless to me.
Aside from that, it gives me a >>headache<<. After one hour of reading I could close my eyes and it took me back in time. I could hear the volume of multiple ramblings of the high school lunch hour. Not much meaningful conversation.
I would have closed my account if it not for the Hubpages Group.
I have to make a "geeky" note and mention that the true meaning of evil is:
"To show yourself friendly and do harm".
So I don't think facebook qualifies as evil.
Also any good that comes from Facebook is contributed to its members and not so much the company itself.
Just my 2 cents. ( - :
Definitely EVIL.
Or at least, not something I'd do. Too superficial. ie, I don't do text messaging either. I've always preferred depth no matter what it is.
LOL I feel so evil in comparison to you. Not only I am pretty active on FB, I am active on its Russian knock-off, too
:evil laughs:
I find texting dead handy if someone isn't urgent, and not worth disturbing someone with a phone call.
Good point, LG. Am also seeing the point when not wanting to use company e-mail.
But I mean socially, I'm the type that has 4 or 5 hour phone calls...
Yes, but couldn't you leave a voicemail? It would be so much simpler and easier. Unless you're saying something that you don't want anyone to hear. As far as sending and receiving goes, how can text messagers and messagees drive and type or drive and read? And doesn't the person get beeped somehow? My sister get's beeped while she's on the other line. It always interupts our phone calls because she has to "read what the person said" and "hold on I've got to message back" and there I am waiting and waiting and thinking, couldn't they have just left a message. Those are my little pet peeves though. Those who use it love it, those who don't hate it. Anyway, sorry for the tangent. I guess I'm like Lita in respect to text messaging. Just that though. I think depth is in the user. Anything I do with facebook and myspace has very much depth. As for superficial, I'm wondering if Lita washes her clothes with a washing machine or if she types on a computer, or if she watches youtube videos, or if she has a cell, if she drives a car...
My other half is likely to be in court, or concentrating in Chambers. Either way, a text means I don't interupt his line of thought.
while in the Army I lost touch with many school friends and Army friends. FaceBook has allowed me to get in touch with people I haven't seen for over twenty years. Good or bad it serves a purpose for me. Now I have open invitations to Hubbers so they can get to know the real me a bit better. I generally keep to myself, meh.My FaceBook
I'm not a great one for texting mates a lot, but it can be quite handy for boring domestic stuff. "Have bought milk, you don't need to shop". For example.
Sure, I do use all those things.... Just maybe as I'm a writer, I'm prone to long verbal communication or something (?)
But you are right, , depth can be found in brevity. Depends on the user!
EVIL, I only use it for playing pool, it attracts too many weirdo's from high school.
The other day I heard from some people (via Facebook) that I went to GRADE SCHOOL with. One of them put up photos of our grade school classes and has been searching the internet for all of us. That was 50 years ago, so it was kind of fun to see those old photos and hear from people from that long ago.
I agree with Teresa though. Most of the apps there are very annoying. I joined because I read everywhere that you have to be on Facebook to properly promote online writing, but I don't think it gets me any new readers. I admit I don't put much into it though.
Well, you do have to put in an effort , recently read a hub that had outlined some ways to promote your hubs on facebook like joining groups matching your hub's topic and then putting its links out there. Since a lot of these groups hold thousands of people, it may really have a good effect.
does it cause arguments with anyone else and their partners?
Online forums can cause problems, when a relationship is already having trouble with communicating with each other personally, this is just another kink in the armor when a person gets more enjoyment out of a virtual world than the personal one with their husband or wife! Otherwise it's good
I think the new layout is pretty annoying, they don't really inform anyone and that's probably half the problem.
But in the end it's all futile to argue about it as they don't listen to their users, who'll just be getting used to this layout when they spring another change on us!
Stupid site anyway, don't know why I bother, only want to use it to keep in touch with family on the other side of the world, not people from school who are doing a vanity search to see if they're more successful than everyone who went to our school.
I wish facebook was still like it was when I signed up - for college/univeristy students. Now it's everyone and their mum, my brother is friends with a stuffed toy that they all torture in their student house....why?!
Although I had very little problems with the site change, since I primarily use the site to promote stuff...i still call my friends when i want to BS...i saw so many "i hate the new facebook"posts, that I decide to try and take advantage of the hype an write a hub about it
http://hubpages.com/hub/I-hate-the-new- … -home-page
While doing research I began to hate the new facebook also! but a correction is in order...they must have paid attention to the criticism as the auto comment feature and photo(your photo) that used to accompany all feed posts...has disapeared overnight
Change is always used to keep the audience hooked, but in this case they've made it worse. Original users will probably get use to it in the end, however it's never a good sign if an update upsets the users instead of providing added extras that people can enjoy. In my opinion I think it's hilarious that it's annoyed people, hopefully then everyone will get sick of it and say to their mates, lets go out more often. So Thank you Facebook for making yourself worse but still bearable for use with long lost friends. :-)
i used to love facebook. but now all these dumb applications are everywhere. and all the add are taking over the website. it just gets messier and more unclean. but the chat feature was a reat improvement!!
A legion of overseas uncles, aunties and cousins get to see family photos without me having to email every single person. And vice versa.
It also "reunited" me with a cousin of a cousin who was only 16 when she held me as a baby. It was a delight for her how much I could tell her about her mothers brother (my dad's sisters husband) and also how much she knew about members of my family, some whom I've never met. As well as the old photos we could share.
So Facebook is what you make of it. I have one account for strictly friends (people I've met in real life) and family (some I haven't met, yet). And then another for my online buddies.
I feel that it's not evil: aside from some evil persons from high school hunting you down, it's quite useful. I've used it to post my articles from Hubpages and friends are already asking about the site. It's a good way to get your work out there and network with friends... or sigh with dismay to see old high school stalkers.
This is a VERY interesting question. If you think about what Facebook (and in the same scope, Twitter)is, it boils down to being a tracking tool. Governments and security forces can pinpoint virtually anyone using mobile phone logs, debit/credit card transactions, and CCTV. However, they cannot tell WHY you are at these places at these times. If a policeman knocked on your door and thrust a summons in your face ordering you to record your activities regualrly online, you'd rebel, there's be riots, and so on.
Call it a social tool, and people are literally falling over each other to squeeze as much up-to-date information on there as possible, including where you are, what you're doing, who with and when, together with photographic records of said event.
Now take all of this information; you have a complete social record of who-knows-who and how. Whether this is evil or good depends on who uses it.
Surely the opposite of 'Good' is 'Bad' and not 'Evil'....
Harold Shipman was evil, Hitler was evil, Ted Bundy was evil..... an online social networking facility can not be evil as an entity. It could be used as a tool by evil people, but can not be evil itself.
I have an account too. Our family is very spread out so it does serve well as a communication tool. I have everything set to private, or selected family members to view photos.
I also have quite a few friends on there. My HS reunion is next year and with a class of 72 kids, we have found almost everyone through Facebook.
I hate the applications.
I hate the people who are constantly updating their status with their phones: I'm taking a pee", "I just got up" "My cat threw up"....do I care NO, so I put those people on hide or delete them off my list.
I HATE Facebook. I get clients, competitors, prospects constantly trying to "friend" my personal account.
Good or Evil? Well i think the answer would be good for me, despite its drawbacks facebook is a really nice tool to keep in touch with all your friends, old and new ones and your family, what i like the most about facebook is the birth date reminder , but actually its Good not Evil.
I find Facebook extremely good I even wrote a hub on how to create one. By the way add me if you are on Facebook
I have over 700+ friends now and love it
Facebook is GOOD!
I hated it at first, but I've been sucked in :-)
I still ignore most application requests, but I enjoy some of the games. And I think it really helps me keep up with my teen daughter - thank goodness she accepted me as friend, LOL! I've learned a lot about some of the litle "angels" she calls friends by reading their posts on her wall. And a lot of her friends have added me too, so I can see their misc photos - I try to play some of the games with them, as well, to keep in touch.
I should probably worry more about privacy issues, but I'm all over the internet. I'm just careful what I post on fb or anywhere else, and I think I've taught my daughter to be the same.
I check into FB every once n awhile to see what family has been up too ,since HP isnt there cup of tea (yet)
Its not evil..just another website
Personally, at first before I had an account I called it the anti-Christ. But now, I love it.
~thranax~
I have FB and I love it because I have made a lot of friends from another website that I had left and they are on there. So I have one not all that evil until you get addicted to some of the applications lol
I'm pretty sure it's morally neutral. Unfortunately it mixes with people who have a tendency to lean in one direction or the other, so I'd say it can be used for either of those purposes.
Facebook ... I haven't really done much with - opened an account and I guess since it wasn't immediatly user friendly - and I didn't feel like taking the time to figure it out - I just never really got too into it - but I love myspace
In all honesty, I find that Facebook is a very good resource for when you "just want to get your stuff out there". However, unless your friends are "into" Facebook, as some are, it might be a little difficult to use your Facebook as something to publicize your work.
I think we all know people that live on Facebook, and then others who just check it out now and then. I'm in the latter crowd. However, it is nice to discover that friends who I lost track of sometimes show up on it.
I'm a geek, but I prefer a real face to face with most pals over a screen meeting. My issue with Facebook is they take control of your content. They can do anything with it. A friend was surprised to see his friend list was plastered in a Facebook ad in a not too nice area of the interent. We had seen those ads before, but thought they were actors/models. The constant moneymaking intrusions are a pain too. Just too much foo-foo stuff for my taste. (I mean you can send somebody a fart for god's sake! LOL) Their demographics of older folks amazes me. So be aware you have no privacy there if that kind of thing concerns you. I pop in from time to time mainly to check out faraway pals' travel pics and stuff.
Facebook! Is it good or evil?
evil. but isn't that what we are all about?
Neither. Its potentialy dangerous/benificial. Too many people just throw things out there. Don't protect their identities etc. Just remember, you can put something on the internet, you can't take it off.
Facebook, like anything, can be the tool of the devil when used inappropriately. A hilarious tool especially with all those work-related stories of people being fired due to facebook...for some HIRARIOUS reasons.
Facebook is evil. But I have a lot of friends out of state so for me it's a necessary evil. It's also the lesser of two evils. Take a good long look at myspace and you'll see that is true.
If you have your own website then Social Media sites such as Facebook and Twitter are useful for getting traffic to the website.You can do advertise with the help of sites. Even you can add relatives friends and connect with them. So Facebook is useful.
Well, it totally depends on how you use it. you must not get addicted to it and also must be aware of the amount of information you provide to your friends (and also strangers) through your profile. In my opinion, these are two basic facts that everyone needs to take in to account.
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