do you think that the republicans are becoming fascists?
Careful--too far to the right and you lose your balance.
Obama is trying to balance with a boulder on his shoulder.
and no, not the over-the-shoulder-boulder-holder.
Reading that was like splashing my face with cool water during a heat wave. Simple, straight forward, fair, rational, so rare!
What I think happens so often is the old bait and switch. Conservatives are not fascists but the republicans hornswoggling them could well be, same with liberals and their relationship with Democrats. Seems to me that one uses bullying tactics to get its way, they other crybaby tactics, but I could be wrong
Why wouldn't I take your post seriously?
Honestly, though, the "I was born this way" argument is almost a surrender, because it tacitly concedes the haters' argument that "gay stuff is bad, so we should prohibit it."
This is how the argument has been going:
Hater: Gay stuff is bad, so we should prohibit you from doing gay stuff.
Gay activist: But I can't help being gay!
Disinterested 3rd party: So it's bad, but you can't help it? Not much of a reason to support you against the haters.
It should be going like this:
Hater: Gay stuff is bad, so we should prohibit you from doing gay stuff.
Gay activist: Please explain why it's bad for informed, competent, consenting adults to mutually pleasure each other in their own home?
Hater: It's just icky!
Disinterested 3rd party: Really? That's all you got? 'It's just icky?' You're nuts. Let the gay folks have their fun.
Yes--America is regressing, not moving forward.
It is twice as bad for my kids as it was for me....the last generation that had it good was my parents...
And we had problems then too. Big ones. Vietnam, Watergate, etc.
But--it won't last. And they won't have their way in the end. Not this time. Not AT this time in earth's history!
Just try and hang in there--keep positive. The eon of male dominance is ovah.
Mama is coming home!!!
A friend of mine used to always use this phrase: The Last Gasp. This is what we are seeing now, imo. You know when Dorothy threw the water on the Wicked Witch and she dissolved? Kind of like that!Are Republicans fascists? No. Sorry, but they're not. They're drifting further and further to the right, that's true. And some of them--some of them only--are starting to seem pretty fascist. But is the GOP a fascist organization? Nope. For the most part they just want to do right by their country as they see it.
Though the continued attempts by right-leaning people to revise history and convince people that fascism was a left-wing movement are really really amusing.
And they claim to not like "revisionism."
"...determine how Fox got that power."
By forgetting that journalism is about telling people what happened, where it happened, when it happened, who did it, and why, and instead creating a narrative that plays on the fears of the general population, and embedding words and phrases designed to make people angry, while reassuring them that they're superior to the "enemy," whoever that might be.
When people are scared and angry, they tend not to think clearly, and will believe anything, especially when they're told that they're not to blame, even a little bit, for the things they're sacred and angry about. It's all their fault, whoever they are.
That's Fox's recipe for getting and keeping viewers. Fear and anger, and absolution for the viewer of any sense of real responsibility.
Take a look at Fox's reaction to the Norway Bomber's Christian manifesto: they went nuts to claim two things: 1) the bomber clearly wasn't a Christian (even if he did write up a huge Christian Crusader manifesto) and 2) the rest of the media are out to get Christians because they mentioned that the guy wrote a huge Christian Crusader manifesto.
But all Fox needed to conclude that the guy who shot up Ford Hood was a Muslim was that they guy had Soldier of Allah business cards in his wallet.
Yeah, that's fair and balanced.
Fox is a propaganda machine telling people what they want to hear: Fox blames other people (muslims, intellectuals, immigrants) for everything that's bad in the world, and absolves its viewers of any culpability or complicity. Great way to get ratings and money. Bad recipe for good journalism."Lets see if I have this right:"
You sorta have it right... let's go point by point.
"Fox (the #1 news station on TV does not know journalism."
it's not so much that they don't know journalism, but rather, they're not doing journalism.
"they have millions of viewers scared and angry "
Yes.
"and they're superior to an unknown enemy."
I assume you mean "...[thinking that] they're superior..." If so, yes, you're right.
"Now these scared and angry people who now are confused as well, are told by Fox that they are not to blame for what they are scared and angry about....whoever they are."
Okay, this was a bit muddled, but you're essentially right: Fox reassures its scared, angry viewers by telling them that the things they're scared and angry about are problems caused by people who aren't like themselves. The message is that "Real Americans" (that is to say, Fox's audience) aren't to blame.
"The Fox news reporters that went "nuts" must have recovered because they didn't fail to mention that a true christian don't go and plan pre-meditated murder."
No, they did mention that a true Christian wouldn't go and plan premeditated murder. But they don't mention that a true Muslim would also never plan premeditated murder. And they also mentioned that talking about the guy's Christian-looking manifesto amounts to an attack on Christians and Christianity by the so-called "lame-stream media." No it doesn't. It's called reporting the facts, and not ignoring the ones that might make some folks a little uncomfortable.
"...oops, forgot........ alot of people must have those soldier of allah business cards in their wallet so that shouldn't count."
Um...no, that should totally count. It should count exactly as much as the Norway guy's Christian-looking manifesto counts. (Which is "not for much.")
See, what I'm pointing out is that Fox glommed onto the Ft. Hood guy's Muslim trappings and mentioned that he was a Muslim extremist every time they talked about him. But they take great pains to downplay the Norway guy's Christian trappings, and never ever call him a Christian extremist.
There's a bit of a double-standard there. You do see that, right?
"Okay, this is not a personal attack....you are obviously not a Fox viewer... "
Why on Earth do you imagine that I'd view that as a personal attack? But no, I do occasionally watch Fox. I'm not a regular viewer, but I don't watch TV in general all that much either.
"...and have knowledge of what a journalist should be."
Yes, I do have knowledge of what a journalist should be. I'm glad that is also obvious. (Wait, that's not what you meant, was it? But it is what you said, so I'll just accept the accidental compliment. No need for me to get my trousers in a twist.)
"if you are muslim, you should not be offended unless you are an extremist and want to push sharia law instead of living by our laws in the US."
I'm not a Muslim, and I'm not offended. I'm just pointing out the double-standard Fox has for violent extremists who kill in the name of Allah, and violent extremists who kill in the name of Christ.
"Whatever your problem, you appear to be "scared, angry, and confused"."
I'm not scared. I'm not angry. I'm not confused. I don't really have a problem other than the fact that Fox is using a hypocritical double standard in its reporting, and so many people don't seem to see it.
(Oh, and by the way? The Emperor is naked.)
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