Is The Opposition to President Obama Warranted?
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With so much vocal an organizational opposition to President Obama and his policies (such as they are) after only 9 months in office, is such criticism warranted? Does the opposition reflect minority intolerance, or a fear of growing minority influence?
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Yes
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Beyond-Politics wrote:
With so much vocal an organizational opposition to President Obama and his policies (such as they are) after only 9 months in office, is such criticism warranted? Does the opposition reflect minority intolerance, or a fear of growing minority influence?
It is None of the above!
It is a fight to keep the Constitution and its implided privelages given to Free citizens, in tact. Nothing to do with race at all, but all to do with preventing socialist change. All to do with Jobs, and earning your way, not give aways. All about preventing supressive taxation, and Goverment over controls so you can not live free, while the Goverment machine takes peoples earned money away. Claiming The very Goverment; This President Took the Oath for, is flawed? We are loosing rights, systematicaly. He is to dis-honest in his ideas and truths.
Dont play the race card for political or personal purpose, its a no go with me and many many others. If you want to re-distribute anything re-distribute my work ethic. I made the Money, I made my life, and you or any one else, is not entitled to it. I made it, I earned it! You did not make it for me.
Go make your own life first, then bitch about it. Laws are well in place to prevent race problems, constitutional admendments are in place to gaurantee all citizens their rights. So You are free and can do this for yourself. Instead of waisting time twisting the emotions, playing with and baiting race. This is crap.
We are in the the year 2009 not 1930, go to work and make it happen for yourself and enjoy that. Its a free country at least for now Until these blind following Obama-ites screw it into the ground! Right now it has a Political system that works well, and will work once he is out of office for good.
501 and 7(a) Loans are there for you reguardless of color or gender, or anything for that matter,The Banks are tougher, yes. But are open if you have a reasonable Business idea and a plan. So take a chance and be very sucessfull. Use the privelages of this Free country, and have sucess. You deserve that.
I wish you well.
Jon
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It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...
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Uninvited Writer wrote:
It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...It's not him it's liberal politics and dishonesty!
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Uninvited Writer wrote:
It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...I'm afraid I read into it what dutchman did. The OP may seek to correct me, but the question does imply that race is fueling the opposition. It's not true from where I sit, and it's insulting to the majority of conservatives who aren't so concerned with race. It's his politics that bother me.
The global agenda/game plan always works like a charm...
When do people shake loose from this Alice in Wonderland dream???There is NO 2 party government...devide and rule has always used these kind of tricks to distract people from what is really going on....
The whole "race" thing is in our minds... once you realize that this is JUST what has been planned all along and BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) is just the right puppet to do their dirty job...follow the money and you'll always find the one's responsible of creating world events and sponsoring both sites.. ahhh nobody knew that grand father bush was accused and found guilty of sponsoring Hitlers nazi germany (IG Farben now Bayer)??? If my grand dad would have had such a record I could never ever become a president lol
Left or right, republican or democrat.....sometimes I am getting tired of people still arguing amongst themselves even while their basic liberties and freedoms are being taken away so they can ALL feel save again (and imprisoned) havent we learned enough by now? Nvere heard off the phrase "HISTORY repeats itself??"
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Jeffrey Neal wrote:
Uninvited Writer wrote:
It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...I'm afraid I read into it what dutchman did. The OP may seek to correct me, but the question does imply that race is fueling the opposition. It's not true from where I sit, and it's insulting to the majority of conservatives who aren't so concerned with race. It's his politics that bother me.
If race was fueling the opposition-- how did he get elected?
The election proved that race was not a factor.
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dutchman1951 wrote:
Beyond-Politics wrote:
With so much vocal an organizational opposition to President Obama and his policies (such as they are) after only 9 months in office, is such criticism warranted? Does the opposition reflect minority intolerance, or a fear of growing minority influence?
It is None of the above!
It is a fight to keep the Constitution and its implided privelages given to Free citizens, in tact. Nothing to do with race at all, but all to do with preventing socialist change. All to do with Jobs, and earning your way, not give aways. All about preventing supressive taxation, and Goverment over controls so you can not live free, while the Goverment machine takes peoples earned money away. Claiming The very Goverment; This President Took the Oath for, is flawed? We are loosing rights, systematicaly. He is to dis-honest in his ideas and truths.
Dont play the race card for political or personal purpose, its a no go with me and many many others. If you want to re-distribute anything re-distribute my work ethic. I made the Money, I made my life, and you or any one else, is not entitled to it. I made it, I earned it! You did not make it for me.
Go make your own life first, then bitch about it. Laws are well in place to prevent race problems, constitutional admendments are in place to gaurantee all citizens their rights. So You are free and can do this for yourself. Instead of waisting time twisting the emotions, playing with and baiting race. This is crap.
We are in the the year 2009 not 1930, go to work and make it happen for yourself and enjoy that. Its a free country at least for now Until these blind following Obama-ites screw it into the ground! Right now it has a Political system that works well, and will work once he is out of office for good.
501 and 7(a) Loans are there for you reguardless of color or gender, or anything for that matter,The Banks are tougher, yes. But are open if you have a reasonable Business idea and a plan. So take a chance and be very sucessfull. Use the privelages of this Free country, and have sucess. You deserve that.
I wish you well.
Jon
Stop lying! You dont wish the man well. You could be talking to a Doctor, a Lawyer, or an Indian Chief. Yet all you saw was some welfare Cheat that wants to "help the government take Ma Money". <snipped personal attack> Most of the people taking your money are up those mountains I'm sure live in or near. The republican and conservative have lost their minds because a Black Man is in the White House! Stop trying to explain it away. You're self destructing right before the nations eyes. Nobody even wants to admit they are a Republican because the racist nuts that have taken over what use to be the GRAND OLD PARTY of this country.
Well, this is what happens when you vote for someone simply because of their ("half") race. I have been saying since the start of his campaign that some factors will call him 'black' when he fuc*s up and another will call him 'white".
Additionally, there are actual websites that focus on nothing much more than bashing him and the Democratic party. I have written a few reviews on one particular website. I would include the link here but I honestly don't recall the name. Then again, we tend to forget that we are supposed to support our presidents whether we personally voted for them or not.
So much for good sportsmanship in America. The truth is, a significant amount of people who talk sh*t about others are not smart enough to come up with anything better. Now back to writing hubs!- 91
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Rochelle Frank wrote:
Jeffrey Neal wrote:
Uninvited Writer wrote:
It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...I'm afraid I read into it what dutchman did. The OP may seek to correct me, but the question does imply that race is fueling the opposition. It's not true from where I sit, and it's insulting to the majority of conservatives who aren't so concerned with race. It's his politics that bother me.
If race was fueling the opposition-- how did he get elected?
The election proved that race was not a factor.I agree. Yet, the implication of racism is bandied about dangerously. It's a cheap trick. Of course there are backwards people (some of them democrats who refused to vote) who don't like that a black man is in office, but it's an unfair indictment to imply that the vocal opposition consist wholly of this element.
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Beyond-Politics wrote:
after only 9 months in office
"only"?
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frans240 wrote:
The global agenda/game plan always works like a charm...
When do people shake loose from this Alice in Wonderland dream???There is NO 2 party government...devide and rule has always used these kind of tricks to distract people from what is really going on....
The whole "race" thing is in our minds... once you realize that this is JUST what has been planned all along and BHO (Barack Hussein Obama) is just the right puppet to do their dirty job...follow the money and you'll always find the one's responsible of creating world events and sponsoring both sites.. ahhh nobody knew that grand father bush was accused and found guilty of sponsoring Hitlers nazi germany (IG Farben now Bayer)??? If my grand dad would have had such a record I could never ever become a president lol
Left or right, republican or democrat.....sometimes I am getting tired of people still arguing amongst themselves even while their basic liberties and freedoms are being taken away so they can ALL feel save again (and imprisoned) havent we learned enough by now? Nvere heard off the phrase "HISTORY repeats itself??"I am very aware of the phrase. And see a very dangerous part a history trying to repeat itself. I'm not going for it.
http://hubpages.com/hub/A-Friendly-Word-on-Politics frans240 wrote:
The global agenda/game plan always works like a charm...
You are correct. There is a game plan to keep all citizens busy with disagreeing with trivialities while a more sinister scheme is the real agenda. I am glad that America has a Black president. However, if there is no re-investigation into 911,then Obama is Bush 4 with a cuter smile. If you count the Clinton years then it's Bush 6. We could include the years when people and Reagon thought he was in charge- Bush 8. Voting for the lesser of 2 evils is voting for evil. Democrats and republicans need to seriously consider being deprogrammed. It's not working folks. It never had. I need not offer mountains of evidence that is available on the WWW. I can prove my point simply from my own experiences. I can't waste time with the "thoroughly convinced" about America being "for real". I need not offer past examples of fraud from our courts. There will be one next week in the news, or the week after. There's just a huge club keeping everyone busy and "at" one another. Political stances are used more for arguing and hating than getting anything really constructive done. We're being had. Please, it's time to wake up.
My next choice for president would be Cynthia McKinney. She is black. I will not vote for her because she is black or because she is a woman but because she has already stood against the real powers that be.It's not exactly 100% true that there is no difference between the parties, though I could wish for far, far more than does exist. However, if you bring it down to the level of how your life is personally affected in at least the short term, there are differences that can definitely be identified.
Personal example: Reagan rolled back personal income taxes considerably for those earning significant amounts. His cuts were still in force when I was fortunate to build a sales organization that made a chunk of money for a number of years. During that time, my calculations are that his tax cuts saved me something over $275,000 in taxes. I appreciate that--though of course I'd prefer no tax whatsoever.
Personal example: As soon as Obama was elected, the gas drilling boom in western Colorado went into a nosedive. By February my truck driving job in that field was toast, and on Dec. 2, my former Colorado home will be sold at foreclosure. Had McCain and his Drill Here Drill Now partner (Sarah Palin) been elected, I'd still be driving a truck for a living instead of not working for any paycheck in Arizona.
Still, there are benefits. When driving 60 to 70 hours per week on full time night shift in those rugged mountains during all sorts of weather, I had neither time nor energy available for commenting on HP forums. So I thank you, Mr. HALF black President, for knocking me out of work.
Now, I disagree as well regarding the point about losing my racist, conservative mind over Mr. Obama's election. Since he's only half, must it not be true that I've only lost HALF of my racist, conservative mind because of his being elected? Which, actually, I have--the left half.- 75
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dutchman1951 wrote:
Beyond-Politics wrote:
With so much vocal an organizational opposition to President Obama and his policies (such as they are) after only 9 months in office, is such criticism warranted? Does the opposition reflect minority intolerance, or a fear of growing minority influence?
It is None of the above!
It is a fight to keep the Constitution and its implided privelages given to Free citizens, in tact. Nothing to do with race at all, but all to do with preventing socialist change. All to do with Jobs, and earning your way, not give aways. All about preventing supressive taxation, and Goverment over controls so you can not live free, while the Goverment machine takes peoples earned money away. Claiming The very Goverment; This President Took the Oath for, is flawed? We are loosing rights, systematicaly. He is to dis-honest in his ideas and truths.
Dont play the race card for political or personal purpose, its a no go with me and many many others. If you want to re-distribute anything re-distribute my work ethic. I made the Money, I made my life, and you or any one else, is not entitled to it. I made it, I earned it! You did not make it for me.
Go make your own life first, then bitch about it. Laws are well in place to prevent race problems, constitutional admendments are in place to gaurantee all citizens their rights. So You are free and can do this for yourself. Instead of waisting time twisting the emotions, playing with and baiting race. This is crap.
We are in the the year 2009 not 1930, go to work and make it happen for yourself and enjoy that. Its a free country at least for now Until these blind following Obama-ites screw it into the ground! Right now it has a Political system that works well, and will work once he is out of office for good.
501 and 7(a) Loans are there for you reguardless of color or gender, or anything for that matter,The Banks are tougher, yes. But are open if you have a reasonable Business idea and a plan. So take a chance and be very sucessfull. Use the privelages of this Free country, and have sucess. You deserve that.
I wish you well.
Jon
Interesting. Where was such an elegant defense of the Constitution when Bush and Co. was gutting it with warrantless wiretapping of American citizens, the overuse of the FISA (secret courts) to obtain secret searches of the property of American citizens, redention of suspects (I'm talking about those with no obvious ties to terrorist organizations...i.e., unaffiliated innocents), and the declaration of an otherwise unfounded war in Iraq? It seems you have more of an allegience to anger and ideological dogma than to reality. You are too bias to have any credibility.
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sneakorocksolid wrote:
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It's funny...I didn't see anything about race in those comments.
I took it to mean he meant a minority of the country were intolerant, or afraid of the minority ruling...It's not him it's liberal politics and dishonesty!
Really? Dishonestly? So, the misinformation about non-conservative proposals (e.g., "death panels"), the Republicans/conservatives caught up (along with many Democrats) in the Congressional scandals of the last class of Congress (Tom DeLay, Bill Frist,Jack Abramoff, etc.), the hypocrisy of the conservative idea about "family values" contrasting the behavior of those promoting it (Bob Barr, Mark Foley, John Ensign, Larry Craig, etc.), and promoting one's political party as "fiscally conservative" yet voting to help balloon the national debt is what you call "honesty?" Yes....your implied point about the conservatives being the salt-of-the-political-Earth is well taken.
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tksensei wrote:
Beyond-Politics wrote:
after only 9 months in office
"only"?
???Yes..."only" (what...too broad of a concept?). I myself gave former President Bush the benefit of the doubt for far longer when he was elected...until his policies showed his bad decision-making. Nine months after taking office is a few weeks in political time. Give the newly-elected adminstration a chance before you condemn it. Base any judgments on actual performance, not ideological differences (trust me, I can name plenty of conservative ideas which failed the country).
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Beyond-Politics wrote:
tksensei wrote:
Beyond-Politics wrote:
after only 9 months in office
"only"?
???Yes..."only"
So when does it become not "only"?
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First question: Yes, Why? Because my President believes the Constitution of the United States is a flawed document. I do not.
Second question: No, see explanation above.
