I am looking for 5 things that will increase my hubber score.
Assume there are enough articles to manipulate and about 200 featured but a ton "less than". The hubber does not network and just wants to raise the score. There is no angst or financial issue, just raise that score.
Should lesser performers be deleted?
Should all unfeatured (lack of traffic) be turned into featured or "erased".
I do not think any 2 year old hubber would be embarrassed by only having 200 featured hubs. So should we just eliminate all others.
Or is just working on networking and increasing traffic more important?
Should we go back and make sure all (lack of traffic) are also shared and ebayed and Amazoned?
Thanks for practical steps to take and no thanks on remarks on quality
I've had a score of 100 and now I'm around 85. You have to consistently write good articles. I sort of took a break for awhile and that's when my score went down.
I am also struggling to improve it. I understand that hubber score depends on two things:
1. Collective hub score of your hubs
2. Your engagement (in terms of quantity and quality, both) with HP community via forum, comments and answers.
Deleting low scoring hubs should improve hubber score but it actually decreased in my case. I am posting on the forum and answering questions but it is not helping me either. Hubber score (85+ needed) is important if you want to give a do follow link to your website or blog.
For more information read this http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/hubs … bber-score
And, we never really know what the score on any given hub will remain.
I had a hub with a score of 94 which plummeted (suddenly and for no reason) to 65.
AND...ready for this? When I updated it---and while i was updating it, it dropped to 63.
The next day it was at 70.
No rhyme or reason that I can discern.
Just because you cannot discern what happened does not mean there was no rhyme or reason.
What you have described here is a textbook-classic example of how a good-quality Hub behaves when a filter is tripped during editing. This is how the system let's you know it thinks you just did something that HubPages or Google consider bad or highly-suspect. Something in the content changes, either words or maybe links, threw up a red flag.
Okay, but if administration was interested in improving quality, then wouldn't it make more sense to be transparent?
I am not sure that I would agree that it makes good editing sense to change scores without explanations.
And, I've worked with enough delivery platforms to know that it is possible to set rubrics that advise of the reasons for changes in, for example, ratings or scores.
If there is no explanation, if there is no visible rubric, then for the user changes in scores are without rhyme or reason---at least to those who are affected (and people are affected as this forum demonstrates) by unexplained changes.
HubberScore is largely based on the HubScores from all of your Hubs.
The HubScore is derived by the QAP. Editing your Hubs can be a good strategy to improve these scores and therefore your HubberScore as well.
Here are other tips for creating great Hubs and improving the ones you have.
http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/Elem … tellar-Hub
http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/How- … y-of-a-Hub
You can find a bit more about HubScore and HubberScore here.
http://hubpages.com/learningcenter/hubs … bber-score
The best general practice is to continue to write high quality Hubs and aim for an 8 or higher on this scale.
Thank you very much.
Do unpublished hubs count? That I have not found anywhere.
Here we were trying to focus on managing existing hubs in order to provide higher Hubber scores.
If someone does not get that you must publish high quality hubs here to have reasonable scores we should worry for them.
So it is reasonable to ask: If one has a high number of high scoring featured hubs but just as many low scoring unfeatured. Should they eventually unpublish the low ones? (of course we edit first and update first -- but some are just low scorers)
I hope that people get the gist that "hubber" score is really just a helpful tool to reflect doing a good all around job. With over 220 featured hubs it should be clear that I am not worried about my ability to publish many high quality hubs.
Eric, my main man. You got 553 hubs.
You want to get your profile score at or above 85? Here's how.
Sort your hubs by hub score, lowest at the top.
Then start working down the list.
Whenever you see a hub that you know in your heart will never, ever get traffic, no matter what you do; delete it. But only if you are absolutely sure.
The more of those you delete, the higher your hubscore average. The higher your hubscore average, the higher your profile score average.
As for "Unpublish" versus "Delete", I say "Delete"; until HP staff categorically tells me that unpublished hub hubscores are not included in the average.
Right on and great timing. That "unpublished counting" is the last piece of the puzzle.
Your simple technique is the best. I only have about 230 to go to evaluate -- then about 50 in featured.
(hey I would rather be a writer than an editor any day ;-)
I'd like to delete some of my low hubscore ones, but the critters are getting traffic. So I just have to sit there and keep watching my profile score drop. I'd bang my head against the wall, but I've tried that before and it didn't work.
I will have to worry about those after working on the unfeatured no traffic first. Everyone of those that I touch gets featured and a higher score so that edit really works.
(I really think that I am an elephant over in my corner of the room. In my case it really is my constant fight with censors and editors and getting banned by the blue haired ladies that will not let me adapt that score ---- the citizenship clause -- So I will have to migrate those hubs to a new Neverland along with new stuff)
Yes Eric - I think unpublished hubs count towards your average. I have two unpublished in the 60s that are dragging down the overall average. I can't decide if I want to fix them and republish or delete them...
I'd say fairly lengthy and very informative Hubs (around the range of a thousand words, more or less), articles broken up with subtitles and use of other media like images and videos: These kind of Hubs tend to score higher and so up your overall Hubber score.
Quite some time ago, I edited an old Hub that was not broken up at all, just one long text and the pictures were askew, and I broke it up and fixed the pictures. That Hub's score went up subsequently. I think readers and Google both look for organization of an article, whether it's easy to read and navigate. Or, at least, this is the reasoning out there as far as why an article should be broken up into segments, along with other SEO advice.
Are you sure increasing your Hubber Score is a worthwhile goal? This score is created by Bots. Decent, thoughtfully constructed Bots to be sure, who save us all a lot of work trying to distinguish human writers from spammers, but still just a bunch of software. Why reorder your life, or risk your self-esteem, based on what a Bot says?
I enjoy reading your stuff, if that reassures you.
Alison, you make an excellent point. But your score is 75 with zero hubs and mine 78 with a few. I want a higher score reflective of how much work I have done. It should be easy to do. I just want it. Just like I want apple pie.
Scores should reflect work and effort and outcomes, but increasingly, they do not.
I wrote 3 featured hubs last week. My score went from 85 to 81 and back up to 83. A few months ago I had a 99. I am consistent and yet.....my score is not.
Hubber score is important from SEO point of view. If your goal is to give an outbound do-follow link to your website or blog, a minimum score of 85 is needed. It used to be 75 but sometimes back HP raised the bar.
Thank you that is very helpful. I do not think I quite understand about "nofollow" but I gather it means that search engines will not follow your hub.
It is very worrisome that citizenship is included as some "bluehaired" ladies seem Hell bent on complaining about radical writers and I am sure that would lower your score.
In nutshell, links can be do-follow or no-follow. When you link you hub to an external webpage by a do-follow link, Google counts it as a vote to that external webpage. This improves chances of that external webpage to rank higher in the search.
No-follow links are not crawled by search bots therefore do not pass on any link juice or vote.
I gather you mean a link contained within my hub that I am trying to promote another webpage with.
In other words if I am below 84 and put a link in my hub that goes to another site or page there will be no credit for that visit to the other site?
So that it is only a revenue enhancement issue.
Actual visitor flow is inconsequential as far as link juice flow is concerned.
If you have a do-follow link pointing to a webpage / hub page, page rank of that page goes up which results in higher traffic for that page. It can be effectively used to support your weaker pages. For example: you have a popular web/hub page on different ways to wear a scarf and relatively unpopular page on fabric for scarfs. In this case a do follow link from the popular page (different ways to wear a scarf) to another (fabric for scarfs) will boost traffic for less popular page.
I think I agree with "alison monroe". I was once upon a time at a score of 96. Since I have published several hubs---all of which were "featured" and some of which were "editor's choice" hubs AND I continue to update old hubs, participate in forums, answer questions, etc. and the result:
My score is stuck at 89.
I suspect that there is some effort to increase activity, and therefore, advertising revenues.
And who better to do this than those of us who once had scores in the 90-range?
Well you can't knock yourself out for everything you just want. Maybe pick something else you just want, that is likely to provide more satisfaction. I have another identity on HubPages with five Hubs, and its Hubber Score wanders around in the 70s and low 80s. I don't pay any attention.
Allison I just read a bunch of new stuff on this and yes it does just seem so random as to be irrelevant. And I note a great many comments I read are from Hubbers with high scores and I can tell you their score just by the the emptiness of the comments.-- directly reverse.
My score recently dropped from 93 to 87.
I can only conclude that HP doesn't love me anymore.
Oh, yes PDS...I saw your score drop from a 93 to an 89 and now it's down to 87. There is love lost somewhere. Hehehe!
Mine is on a seesaw too, dropping high and low by 3 to 4 points. HP is like a fickle minded lover, can't seem to make up his/her mind!
I've noticed that when my traffic goes up, my hubber score goes down but when my traffic falls off, my hubber score rises. It makes no sense to me. Shouldn't we be rewarded for increased traffic?
I think a lot of it Eric is based on the average score of your hubs. For example, when I publish a new hub, it scores lower initially until it gets established. My hubber score typically drops a point every time I publish a new hub lol.
To get your score up, if you really feel that is what you must do, is to work to get your average hub score up in my experience. Of course traffic to ones hubs does affect the score of the hub - so anything you can do to make your hubs search friendly and to gain more traffic would also definitely help. I have to say I agree with Alison here though - it's a bot derived number.
Thank you, your suggestions, when followed, bring that satisfaction of making something better regardless of the score.
Do unpublished hubs count for anything at all?
I could just unpublish low score non-featured hubs there (excluding high traffic ones) and then work on them as time permits.
My experience does not reflect that. One of my most popular hubs is scored 10 points less than the rest of my hubs. It gets more traffic than hubs that receive almost no traffic and are scored 10 to 15 points higher. No matter how much traffic that hub receives, the score remains stubbornly lowest.
I have worried about hubber scores for the three years that I have been here. My conclusion is that they are irrelevant but misleading to new visitors (high score= good writer) when I have seen plenty of the opposite. So from now on I just look at hubber scores as something to my keep my
Hi Eric, Hubber Scores seems to be somewhat of a mystery to most of us. My score went up temporarily to 92 after I published an information hub recently, but only stayed there for two days before dropping to my usual 87. I have published two or three quality hubs since but it hasn't budged. 200 is a fine number of featured hubs. I have 132 I think, and some are scored in the low 60's but all are featured and I will never delete any. I do go through and update my older/lower scored ones adding video and extra content, then resharing every so often. There are also groups on Facebook and Google+ now set up for hubbers to showcase there hubs and have them seen by more people. Good luck, but with the number of hubs you publish I would have expected your score to be higher so who knows.
Thank you much John, it does seem for me that I should start doing something with my low score hubs. I do like revisiting my unfeatured/traffic and adding new bells and whistles.I think I will keep your suggestion in mind as I follow also ChristinS' suggestions.
The only thing I've seen that consistently lowers my score is following more than a couple of people in a day. Huge flurries of commenting seem to do the same. Inactivity does not seem to effect it much. Other than that, who knows?
I call BS on the whole Hub and hubber score. Reading the learning center under hub scores it actually says the hub score can be changed based on "your reputation in the community" Really!?!? Then they say that the hub score directly impacts the hubber score. So if my "reputation" is bad then my hub scores are lowered, followed by my hubber score being dropped. I have a hub that gets well over 1000 views a week from google. It provides all the information on the topic that a google searcher would be looking for, BUT it has a hub score of 76!
My point to all this is, if you're making money or getting whatever it is you are looking for from HP then leave it alone. If you aren't happy, change things starting with things listed in this post
Don't change so much that you end up worse than where you are now.
Great points. I must say that nothing to do with HP is going to effect things like flowers, children and beautiful days. When HP effects my happiness I will go away ;-) (and no I do not reference content which effects me deeply -- but that is more about friendship here)
Let see what happens as I increase my average hub scores and "unpublish" poor performers. And I like my reputation here, it seems consistent with real world.
Hubber score really does not mean anything, unless you are looking to meet the magic 85 mark to get your "do follow"links..
The important thing is traffic and earnings for most people - and if that is what you are after you need to do some work on your titles and keywords to start attracting the readers.... If the traffic does not matter to you then don't worry about the score - if it does matter improve your hubs with regards to gaining visitors through better keyword selection and you will find that your scores will creep on up all by themselves.
The only thing I've found that increases my Hubber score is when I publish Hubs on a consistent basis. I assume posting in forums and questions also helps, as does commenting on other Hubs. I reached 100 for a time last year when I was very active publishing Hubs, so that is what I attribute to a high Hubber score.
It is not enough -- I published 60 in 60 with only two not featured and score remained the same +-2%.
Publishing another article may increase or decrease the hubber score. I saw this happened to me a few weeks back. What I do is just write and follow the HP guidelines, and that's all there is to it. I see the scores rise and fall, and take it with a grain of salt. I think writers are used to that, where we see our work being judged differently by how we see it ourselves.
First of all, Hubber scores go up and down all of the time for every one. Publish new Hubs and they will drop. After the Hub is featured a few days the score will rise again. They will also do it for no reason. There is also the reasons of being active in the community, positive comments on the Hubs, Hub Hopper...
What are your oldest Hubs? have they been updated to add new/recent data?
Search your Hubs and observe which have the most comments - which only have a few. Why is that? Something in them may need to be edited/changed.
Lowering hub scores as a function of age is symptomatic of the basic problem of the protocols for rating hubs.
Content is not diminished and/or reduced in quality simply because it is aging. In fact, content can (and often does) increase in relevance and value with age.
As as for updating: Been there, done that, got NO positive results. In fact, I update constantly and have made it a point to revisit hubs and add/revise content and the scores continue to decline.
I seldom have comments and if there are, I get surprise! Heheh! Well, it is just fine with me, as long as I get the views. There will be need to fine tune some of them though, to make it more search friendly. I guess, I need a respectable hubber score so readers would believe on what I say in my hubs. I don't know if there is a connect somewhere, but that is just how I see it. Nonetheless, I have no control with the movements, so all I do is pray once I crank out another hub --- for the hubber score to shoot up and stay up!
Your hubber score is not shown on your hub, so most readers probably never even see it.
Hubber score is the number that we see next to our avatar or profile pic, right? Hub score is what is not shown. It is the individual weight given to each article.
It is shown on your profile pic. Mine is 89 now. Goes up and down from 82 to 89. That's the number on your profile picture as shown here.
You have been shown various links, (Learning Center, FAQ, Matthew showed a few), if you still do not understand the Hub and Hubber scores then try this:
I have found that I keep a consistently high hubber score by implementing a simple plan that I call the "I don't give a toss procedure"
Here's how it goes.
Step one: Don't give a toss.
Step two: Emphatically don't give a toss.
And I should mention that I've only deleted those hubs in the past where repeated editing attempts failed to work.
Do hubs that have been started but never published affect your hubber score? I have four hubs I am working on. Two have a title and nothing else. Anyone know?
I always have 5 or 6 that I am working on. Since they do not have a hubber score, they do not affect your hub score until they are published.(At least as far as I know.)
What about ones you work on after "unpublishing"?
I really do not know, but I think that if they are unpublished they would not change the hub score at all, whether or not you were working on them.
I would like to think that is how it is. I cannot find the answers to; if anything unpublished is counted toward anything. I do note that unpublished are included in the overall hub count so that makes me think the score may also be. In which case a ? might just be a zero. And that would be bad.
Why would you un-publish the Hubs to work on them? You are able to edit them while you keep them published and keep, or improve, your score.
Friend, I have 40 that I am working on. So we go through and take up a handful and set 'em aside and then God willing and the creek don't rise we get to 'em in lordy time.
So work on them however many you can at a time and leave the others published to still receive income and comments. These may improve your score.
By force of pure nature this is right for me. 3 published and featured in a day and editing is not my crown jewell.
We are above the rainbow and being free when we write and dream and we are captured by the big butterfly net when we come to earth and edit. I almost only want to see the sky and cry and not about scores but about those that I loved and loved no more.
Since you seem to have a problem with editing then perhaps this may help a little:
http://theexaminer-1.hubpages.com/hub/E … -else-does
No. They only affect your score temporarily after they are published. Then the score rises again after time.
Hub scores go up like a yoyo according to their traffic. A hub with 2 red arrows that has suddenly jumped up in traffic will eventually re-settle to its "normal" range. At that point, its hub score declines a few numbers.
Another check- mark some of us use is to delete all hubs that remain consistently below a 70 hub score. With so many hubs, perhaps some culling may increase your Hubber Score.
Sue I have learned through this forum that only the no-follow/do follow factor is a reason to be concerned with a hubber score. And that only helps to promote other hubs or pages. I do not do that so it makes absolutely no difference to me.
My low hubber score is a direct reflection of my agreement with my editors. I agree with about 78% of the stuff they use as criteria. My subject matters and my refusal to write for SEOs keeps my scores right where my attitude is and is miraculously properly reflected. I will soon have over 250 featured hubs.Scores are almost irrelevant -- except that they are a good benchmark to stay sharp in writing. A good hub here is a great article elsewhere.
I am learning techniques to delete here and move to my blog I am just starting to work on. And I can upgrade an existing hub in about 10 minutes if I chose to. This has been a successful forum.
The last piece that I would like to know is all about unpublished hubs scoring impact.
If those low scoring hubs have links to other pages (follow or no follow) and your delete them, their deletion will negatively impact the hubs or pages they were linking to.
I have never unpublished a hub. When you do, does it still show a score or does the score revert to a question mark? Also, does everyone agree that pre-published hubs (started but never published) do not count toward the hubber score?
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