Please check to see if your hubs have been duplicated on this site. I have found five of mine so far.
Thanks so much for alerting us to this site, sallybea! I just found a bunch of my hubs (from HubPages and also from one of the niche sites, FeltMagnet) copied on that site, and I'm about to send a pile of DMCA complaints to the abuse dept. at GoDaddy.
@ sallybea . . . will do. Thanks for the "hubs up," little play on words, but sincerely, thank you for the warning.
Update: I heard back from GoDaddy and it appears that Mochahost.com (not GoDaddy) is the web hosting provider for this site (abuseatmochahostdotcom), in case anyone else needs to file a DMCA complaint.
I tried opening the link that sallybea posted and my computer gave a "this page cannot be displayed" message.
Then I went on about my day.
Did you change the "at" to @ and the "dotcom" to ".com" in the URL she provided? Alternatively, you could do a search on "toknowthings" and click on one of the articles on that domain to get into the site.
This site seems to be made up of nothing but hundreds (probably thousands) of stolen articles - mostly hubs, as far as I can tell. I would encourage you to check it out, especially since you are such a prolific writer. I'd hate to see these creeps profiting from your hard work!
I put dot in the places where there was a dot as I did not want them to profit from all the additional traffic from my post.
Kenneth, there are literally hundreds of our hubs on this site. This site covers a wide variety of hubs in many categories and they include hubs on the niche sites. The sooner we can get rid of these people the better.
Thank you, Margaret, that is very helpful. I hope to get down to filing the DMCA's tomorrow.
I wonder if the site has been taken down. I tried to go to it and it said Server Not Found.
Nope, it's still up. I was just on it two minutes ago.
Make sure you replace the word "dot" in the link with an actual "dot."
In other words, don't type wwwDOTtoknowthingsDOTcom - the "DOT" should be replaced by a real "dot" in both places.
I was pretty tired last night, I highlighted the text of the site and right-clicked and hit the "open link in new tab" thing and that's why I got the Server Not Found.
Yesterday was a rough day, that's all I can say. After I read your comment there, I realized my error.
Sally, thank you so very much for the heads up and the site link, and I am going straight there, after I tell this little tidbit; I found one of my hubs so blatantly copied and reposted right here on HUBPAGES! Now, mind you all, that the content of my hub is very big in pop culture, or was at the time that I wrote mine, and it has a "list" that is all over the internet. Before any one judges me, lol, I did copy the list but first did a ton of Wiki research and even added to and subtracted from the list when posting my hub, but a computerized editor on Hubpages keeps saying that my Hub has too much writing that looks similar to other wording on the internet and of course it does! I took it from the net, yet I restructured the list part of my Hub and I have not been flagged or been told by any human on HP to take it down, so I wanted you all to know I am not a "Copy Cat" writer.. (OH I feel as if I am digging myself deeper when I only felt the need to alert someone here and get some advice about MY written word being hijacked, not just that list, by someone else.) If or when anyone looks at my hub, you will see that the list itself, it is public knowledge or public domain. Forgive my amatuer expertise on the subject of copyright laws and rules or just plain etiquette. BUT, she copied my own written word straight from my hub and only changed the photos, and the set up of my paper, which has been printed and used in a minor media source for fans. I turned her hub in to Hubpages, but I have not heard anything back from them. I will say that I could have missed it, during a time of the changing of laptops, before clouds became very modernized and due to selling our home and moving. (That said without going into such great detail, again.)
I have missed the Hubpages community very much, for I received a very warm welcome and my creativity was overwhelming me at the time when I joined this site, but very sad and lengthy personal legal matters have overtaken my life and the only time I am afforded to check on my blogs is on the weekends. So, here I am! I was making sure my Hubs were all okay and I decided to change my background when I ran across this hub on the sidebar, and it reminded me about my one hub that I found copied and pasted here. I had no idea about the other site. I hope that I do not find any of mine there, and I know that the saying goes, "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery", but I am sure that does not come into play in copyrighting, correct? I am rambling. I am nervous about my hub that was stolen on here, now and also about going to the site Sally has given out to see if mine are there.
Peace and Many Blessings to all,
Sorry, but what you did with your hub is called "spinning"...which means taking information that is already out there and manipulating the content to make it look like you wrote it. All work on HP is supposed to be original. Obviously, the hub you wrote is not. You can't complain about somebody copying you when you, yourself, copied also.
No sir I did not make anything look like it was mine. THE WRITTEN COMMENTARY WAS ALL MY OWN WRITING AND THAT IS WHAT SHE COPIED. How did you miss that?? BUT... I apologize if I did not make that clear enough above. I did no such thing called "spinning"!! NEVER ONCE CALLED IT MY OWN.
This one is being hosted on Godaddy so you got to file DMCA on abuseatgodaddydotcom.
The site seems to be gone. Message says "account has been suspended."
I did gain entrance to the "mocha" site, but I did not see anything about hubs. It was a site similar to GoDaddy.Com.
So glad for the news that the site is dust.
Just tried and the page shows an ACCOUNT SUSPENDED message
I wonder why hubpages accepted two of my feeds but not another one? not sure if it has been stolen or I didn't match certain criterias or something.
Thanks for the heads up y'all. Found three of my Hubs copied on that crap farm thus far. DMCA's have already been sent. Now we play the waiting game...
...(taps foot impatiently)
...aww, the waiting game sucks. Let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos!
Blast ..... This site has stolen two of my top articles ....... Can someone tell me what is the mail address to which we can file DMCA.
Thanks, SallyBea for alerting us.
Margaret has mentioned abuseatmochahostdotcom in comments so I have sent two DMCA notices on this address. Will post update as soon as I get a response.
Since putting up this thread I have found a total of 13 hubs in my niche, have not even looked for any other subjects yet. I found other writers too like -Kylyssa
These writers like myself have multiple pages on the site.
I posted about them earlier in the year:
http://hubpages.com/community/forum/135 … pying-hubs
I had no luck with my DMCA notices, but did file with Google and I believe that my copied articles no longer appear in search results. Perhaps a new batch of DMCAs will have an effect...
I filed a DMCA report to "abuse at mochahost dot com" for 24 of my stolen hubs. If you have a copyright notice on your hubs you can find all your stolen content on that site by inserting your HP user name into their search feature. Then they all show up.
Still a bloody waste of time though. When the thieves are so blatant and on such a large scale, I wonder why HP staff can't file a complaint to get the whole site taken down.
All of my high traffic articles are on there. I noticed this months ago, but my entire network is currently encased in a botnet - guess that's what happens if you "stick it to the man", if the man happens to be a cyborg Sure has squashed my research and writing for the time being... one letter poking on a kindle here isnt very efficient. Next up for me to address... "thanks for editing all my high traffic articles while I've been out of commish HubPro - now will you replace my amazon book links and change my tuned titles back i'm losing money here ..." Hasn't been a great year for me so far...
At least 2 other threads addressing toknowthings, none of which seem to find a satisfactory resolution:
http://hubpages.com/community/forum/135 … pying-hubs
Anyone know a good copyright lawyer?
You don't need one.
The guy's original host shut him down thanks to the actions taken on those other threads, so he has switched to GoDaddy. If we shut him down at GoDaddy, he will probably try again at another host. It may take a few attempts to get him to give up trying.
I do notice he's using Adsense, and you can hurt him by getting him banned from Adsense. Report him.
https://support.google.com/adsense/trou … ts=1631428
Have been away from my computer for the weekend but just wanted to say to everyone who helped to get this site taken down that itt seems that it is a lot easier when enough people post DMCA'S. Thank you so much.
Guess I don't want to hurt him..financially, virtually or otherwise. I'd LIKE to have the traffic from those articles, but I'd settle for credit - just name and source even - as any piece of referenced information written above a second grade level should ethically and academically have. Unfortunately my research articles get ganked quite often by both poser composers and knowledgenappers whose pockets leak when I up and ruin the magic of marketing for everyone, and limited visitation rights to cybertown has made it hard to keep tabs to wrangle them up, let alone politely ask for each one of my stuffs back.
Besides, the toknowthings site is blatantly copying and pasting full artcles verbatim without a shred of credit Might not NEED a lawyer, but after 5 years of online freelance I sure would LIKE one...
Thanks for all the info everyone - good lookin out!
If it's obvious that it's a person who is stealing other people's work wholesale, then he is a thief and deserves no sympathy. He is hurting others by stealing their livelihood so why would you not want to stop him in his tracks, either for your own sake or others?
I want to answer this, not to argue you personally, but because the philosophical nature of a debate like this is mouthwatering, and I'm starving...
For time's sake we can likely agree nobody, and at least no Hubber, has unlimited resources with which to carry out every action we can imagine, agreed? So we must choose which actions are worth spending our resources, essentially our energy reserves, on.
We are also likely to negotiate that, for simplicity's sake, we are all basically free to choose how we decide this spending for ourselves - all other factors being equal. I decide this based on a single, simply defined end goal.
In this case, my goal is to restore balance to my published writing endeavors. Published Article = Due Credit, where "due credit" includes recognition for composition of an original creation, the unimposed flow of traffic generated by an organic interest in my creation, and compensation as arranged with those parties who benefit, financially or otherwise, from this channel of traffic my work has created.
After considering some obvious options, I realize that in order to restore this balance, whatever action I take will have to successfully untangle my work from this outside influence that has it ensnared and is thus throwing my work-to-reward ratio off kilter.
From here I take the steps necessary to separate my efforts from this weak ass faker's unnaturally diseased suckhole for no pain, all gain. In a calculated effort to not entangle my energy further, I file only the reports that:
1. relate to this specific situation
2. promote the separation I have reasoned will achieve my defined goals
3. fit within my current schedule of raising two tweenage daughters and running 3 at-home businesses through a f*cking botnet.
Attacking this person does not help me get closer to my goal. It only serves to punish them. That is not my goal, at least not this round:
1. It is not one of the simply stated goals outlined above
2. My authority as disciplinarian only extends to the walls of my, oh, let's call it 40'x20' house
3. I dont know this person, but what I do know is that no one I've actually ever met in person has proven to be 100% complete shit.
We're all in this together.
So I will do what I need to get back what is rightfully mine. Personal responsibility would direct each of us to do the same, thereby both being proportionately effective at restoring ROI to each rightful recipient AND not allowing for any one person to become a scapegoat for why peace and order wasn't ultimately restored to the universe. I'll reclaim my livelihood, or rather the bi-monthly pity paycheck 5 years here has earned me, and you reclaim yours, because "whoops" we all signed up to publish on the HP platform. Our bads.
This situation being a breeze compared to spending 4+ months trying to figure out how to reinstall an operating system on my laptop so I can maybe even just try to reclaim a livelihood that actually DID support this small house wall to wall, fed, clothed, exercised and educated those darling daughters, and was absolutely annhiliated for - what else - writing hubs that freed up captive information to help everyday people make informed decisions regarding their own health, and the well being of THEIR homes and daughters, sons, and the ones they love.
(See also: "two wrongs don't make a paycheck")
No need to respond - there's just not much else for me to do here in the evenings for now except poke out well-thought out responses to unsuspecting questions like yours in unsuspecting forums like this one letter at a time on a borrowed tablet.
I sure do miss research and writing.
@ sallybea, 12:36 p.m., cst, June 13, thank YOU for all of your efforts to dismantle the "low life hub stealing site." I am serious. You are a credit to HP. And I didn't even have to use our code phrase: "the cardinal eats at midnight."
Life goes on . . .
@ sallybea, seriously, at my current age, I have been places, talked to, met people and made friends all over, but you are the first person to tell me that I was "too" kind.
A sincere thanks to you, sallybea.
May I be so bold as to say, "I will treasure your friendship for the rest of my days."
Shhhh. "The sheep sleeps in County Cork."
Honestly, at this time in it's evolution, the web is an open tool for anyone in the world to abuse like this. And, honestly, I don't see a safe resolution without there being some "Big Brother" out there monitoring everything.
I have over a half dozen Hubs, that have been duplicates, and sending warnings and threats are just ignored. A couple of them are just stupid people who figured out how to start a Blog, the rest are on sites designed for wild west posting of copied works without any concern or even caring by the host.
A DMCA does nothing with the first, because honestly I don't even think they manage their little Blog.
And, even if I get one removed, the next report on HP is usually 6-12 months later.
So, I try not to get too wound up. I guess I'm waiting for some miracle cure for this situation.
Just discovered that my hub may have been stolen. I tried the website given above and it now says that this account has been suspended. I sure hope so. This hub was just moved into feltmagnet.com from hubpages and I wonder if that has anything to do with the theft. Apparently enough people notified google of the problem so the accont has been suspended....until they come up with a new one.
I found that mine was stolen by heroswikidotorg. I went to WHOIS and found that Cloudfair was associated with them so I filled out their form with my complaint. Here is a copy of their response:
Hope this is helpful to some of you who have also had things stolen from hereowiki.
Thats the worst thing to happen for any writer. To wake up one fine morning and find someone else shows a copyright of his or her write ups. Someone said " You cannot be taught how to write. You can either write or you don't write." So please stop stealing someone's thoughts. A lot of time and energy goes behind it.
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