You haven't seriously left us because of a little tiff with a pissed up BadCo? You too can hate each other all you want, but I still love ya to bits so come back yeah?
To all of those that dont know, BadCo was in the wrong last night, and those that were quick to jump on Brenda's back last night on the 'Should I keep BadCo and PirateGirl' thread, whilst being completely ignorant to the situation should feel partly responsible for this.
Before everybody cries out for BadCo to return, consider something. He was an absolute muppet last night, love the bloke, but perhaps you can read this thread from the start: http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/23551
BadCo is 'HealthTips' on that thread, in his new alter ego, and treated Brenda and Colebabie in a bad way. If you lot want to defend him for that then go ahead, but your drooling over the bloke last night..... with a little bit of demonisation of Brenda, has driven a great person away. IF YOU HAVE READ the first link above up until 24 hours ago, then why not proceed to read this second thread http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/23581#post417303
I can see straight through this. I cant see any apology from BadCo on this forum today for his disgusting behaviour. For the first time, I am upset and refusing to back a bloke that I generally hold with a lot of respect. Hopefully he hasn't driven Colebabie away too.
Brenda was a victim last night. There you go, there is my piece. Dont go around begging BadCo to come back, he will be back in his own time. I personally cannot side with the bloke this time.
I am happy to see that ryan created a thread in support of Brenda! I was apart of this as well and have to say I have bit my lip for months seeing people getting cut down and bashed here... Brenda surely did not deserve it and I jumped in so as to defend her...
I will say, I believe she had her own reasons of deleteing her account other than this situation and believe she will return...((hopefully)).. One thing I learned in a frightful way here on hubs is it is just not a good idea to use your real name and some will probably know why I choose not to...
I hope all is well with Brenda and that she will be back...I miss her much. She definitely made hubpages a very special place for me.
Unfortunately, I cannot email you Brenda since your account is gone so please email me if you like through my profile page so that I now how you are, ok?
I think he told me off once too, but hey Brenda don't take it seriously its the Net. My own actions have been bad from time to time, and as I am very pragmaticc I just can't understand how anyone would be offended by anything said on the net.
Darkside got stuck into me He doesn't even know my real persona, its nothing like I portray Hell no I am a quiet shrinking Violet, that wouldn't say Bum for a Big red Apple. There isn't a comment Badco could make to me that would stress me out. Please just stop taking this seriously. That is my only hassle with what is a brilliant Site, the fact a few people just want to be Goodie goodies./ Boring. Yeah he can be a Muppet, but a humourous one.
And Im bumping this until she comes back, a constant reminder of the night a hubber with 423 fans was driven from hubpages.
I have to agree with Brenda. I like BadCo, he can be a very nice guy. But I am getting tired of the constant drama and the constant flouncing off. And demanding people stay out of the threads he creates is ridiculous. I hope he was banned again.
A lot of the people defending him haven't had to live through it for the past 6 months or so.
And I'm not afraid if he comes after me next (again), I'm not leaving...
I like Brenda, she is a wonderful woman. As I have said so many times, we have to stop taking things said in the forums too personally.
I have to agree. I haven't been too aware of his bad behaviour, but I could never understand why he felt the need to parade himself as multiple different personalities (and even talk to himself) on the forums. There has been a significant increase in silliness since he's been around. I've been quite happy to ignore it because I know some people find such childish humour amusing, but he's clearly taking it much too far.
It wasnt even the stuff he said as BadCo!
It was the stuff he said as HealthTips, before anybody knew that he was indeed BadCo.
I suggest that you read my first link, starting from page 1, and look for anything written by 'HealthTips'. The way he talked to Colebabie was disgusting, absolutely horrible, and that is why Brenda became angry with him.
Thats why people have ignored the full story and decided to beg for him back. They dont realise the things he was saying under the HealthTips login just minutes before Brenda made her comments. I actually get on well with him, but he deserves a ban and needs a break anyway.
We have lost a great hubber today, a great reader too.
I did read what went on between him and Colebabie. I had a feeling it was BadCo.
It was, he admitted it later on. In fact, he admitted it just half an hour before Brenda told him that people were getting fed up with him. The sucking up to BadCo that then proceeded, and the critiscm of Brenda's justified comments, were probably what have driven Brenda away. And I cant blame her to be honest.
I just hope that she has a second login somewhere, from which she is making lots of adsense money.... and doesnt use for the forum
And this is why "sock puppets" aka multiple accounts, is a bad thing.
I don't understand why she would quit over that. I mean, stop coming into the forum, but you don't have to delete your entire account. Anyway, I have fanned two less people. (if that makes sense )
She really liked him, and it has hurt her a lot. In fact, she believed that they were good friends. So did Colebabie, she believed that she was friends with BadCo too. She is a very sensitive and emotional person, in a positive and warming way, and is not here for the money but for the people. I genuinely believe that she was so disheartened that she decided to leave. BadCo lost three friends that day, because I think I am going to join them. Never thought I would say it, but I saw a side to him that I didnt think existed. We have all lost a lot more than BadCo though haven't we, we have lost a great hubber.
I don't get it either. It seems that recently, people are coming to HubPages for the forums as much as for the writing - whereas originally, the forums were just a handy place for HubPages writers to chat occasionally.
As someone who joined earlier, I see writing on HubPages and participating in forums as two separate things - newer members seem to see them as indivisible.
Brenda seems like a real nice person. I'm perfectly tired of all the whining, begging, bow down too me & beg me to stay acts...they are rather tiring and quite childish.
Indeed, but personally I wish that Brenda had initiated some begging. I would have begged her to stay, and instead I am begging her to come back. I would happily have begged for her to stay.
I agree, I won't even touch the thread he started on Alter Egos for that reason. It's getting very old. He treated Brenda and Cole like sh*t and I'm very disappointed in him. I agree with Ryan that I saw a side of him I've never seen and I didn't like it AT ALL!
I do hope that's not what drove Brenda away. I'm hoping she's just taking a break from Healthcare Tips!!! Geez.
I'm just waiting for a TV soap opera or reality show that's based on the Hub pages forums.
There's enough material to keep a team of scriptwriters busy for years.
Its good writing stuff - all the drama, hidden romance, and we can make up the rest for a damn good t.v. spinoff.
@Ryan, I can't possibly read 24 pages of political stuff.
Or a university full of psychoanalysts!
Why the drama ? If someone decides to leave ,let it be. We're all grown ups ,I think ?
Uh-oh, I missed on the drama.
But did not Brenda try to help him professionally? That was my impression, and if it is so, she's unlikely to quit. Why did you decide she did?
Have you read the first link? Follow the thread from the start (you dont need to go too deep) and look for any posts from a poster called 'HealthTips'.... otherwise known as BadCo
Brenda Scully has quit. Her account is deleted completely, there is no way back for her account, and it was within hours of this falling out. I personally cannot see any other explanation; she has obviously taken this badly.
No, you can't seriously expect me to read 24 pages
But I see your point. Well, Brenda definitely is a nice person, but people come and go for various reasons. It's like birth and death, you know.
Anger is an acid that can do more harm to the vessel in which it is stored than to anything on which it is poured. BC is full of anger and sometimes it harms those who are closest to him. I think he is the one who is hurting most of all. Not that I am favoring him or feeling sorry for him. He is an unhappy person, and misery loves company, bad or no. Now he will probably return and read all these things posted and make his new list. I certainly hope not. I hope Brenda returns, I really do.
yes, it is sad. Well said CC. Brenda, please do come back. There is no need for us all to be at difference with each other. We are artist and brilliant minds here, if anything we should be supporting one another. Every moment is an opportunity to make things right. Let us start again.
well, I've been gone for the last 5 days, so I don't know the drama, but the short couple months I've been here, I don't really see why anyone gets so emotionally tied with another poster. I know bonds are formed for various reasons, but all the same, we do not know the real person behind the words, the avatars, the drama... if someone wants to come back, he or she will, to beg them seems rather childish.
the way I see it, anyone who is a jerk online is a worse jerk in real life. let people be.
Yep. and a good test of people in real life is to watch how they treat waiters, checkout operators, and those who perform what are generally considered "menial tasks".
Because that's when they show their true colours.
This is so true Eric, especially in the deep south. I have no use for those treating someone bad because of their station in life.
Heck, is this even important at all? Seems to be too much drama. I wonder if Jerry Springer could be on here as an alter ego?
I know this is a debate that has been talked about several times but for me multiple accounts work.
However I do not talk to my other accounts in the forums or anything like that.
Dale is the real me and as you can see I am about everything. I have openly admitted to having other accounts and for me in my affiliate business they are very important.
However those accounts are for marketing only and that is what they will always be.
In the last couple months I have noticed some things that actually made me laugh with BadCo and his so called alter egos but yes he did go a little far this time.
I guess if you have alter egos for the wrong reasons then it shouldnt be allowed.
i created another account today. (SquigglesMcBeeBee). i plan to use it to write about bunnies and the local scene (Tempe, Scottsdale, Bisbee, etc.) But I would never use it to hurt anyone, and the HubTeam knows all about it anyway.
honesty is the best policy, i think.
who knows? insecurities, immaturity. the list is as long as the number of his combined posts. regardless, one has to wonder why he repeatedly threatens to leave the hp community, then beg people to love him, then threaten to leave the community, then beg. and on and on.
like a 10 year old drama queen.
What the? Argh! *bangs head against the wall*
I was writing last night, so I missed the show. Had I seen it, I would have been inclined to have responded to that thread differently.
I didn't badger Brenda or Cole ... nor would I ... as I saw the thread simply as another should I stay or should I go thing and I voiced my honest opinion ... stay if you want Badco and use aliases if you like.
However, I didn't see the argument that precipitated it all and feel like a bit of an arse for adding two sense to it all.
Those who know me on the forums know I don't attack others, nor do I care to see others doing it. I hate to see talented people on the brink of leaving, but in the case of Badco, perhaps he is inspired by the same madness that took Mozart. By that, I mean that his genius leads to boredom, which is often followed by acts he regrets later.
I due truly think he feels awful later for what has been done (thus, the 'I'm leaving' threads, but the far better cure is to consider how others will perceive your thoughts before unleashing them on a forum ... and this advice is for all ... not for just one.
Personally, I get a bit perturbed when somebody places the one ahead of the many, allowing one person to push them away when there are so many that want them around (I speak of the Badcos, the Brenda Scullys, and the Goldentoads).
We're all equal members of this community, not leaders, each with as much right to be here as the other. As such, we can't take the animosity of one as a sign to leave when we have so many others wanting us to stay. How does that serve those who chose to fan you and those that read your hubs?
Are we here for ourselves? Because if we are, then there is no need for forums, as forums are about unity and being part of a big family ... and being part of a big family does mean there will be sibling rivalries (some will be ugly).
Still ... That's why you ignore the ogre and interact with those who are decent ... allowing the ogre to be carried off and spanked for a bit.
So for those others planning to leave over animosities in the forums ... don't ... allow the system to weed out the ogres and give them a ripe thumping. That's the better plan of action, as leaving only punishes those who stayed behind and liked you.
I didn't know much about Brenda, but I did see her kind, warm, and generous, and it ticks me off to see one less person like this on the forums.
And Cole ... doncha think about following her ... If the ogres come after ya, come get me ... we'll knock them off the bridge together.
you are so cool. isaw the thread this am, toatlly skipped to the end, and said my thing. i had no idea it got that big? yoshi....your a good thingamajig...i didnt forget the time you were nie to me when i flipped...
The good Lord gave me one shoulder for crying on ... I haven't figured out the purpose of the other yet, though I suppose I'll reserve the other for myself.
for if the person crying has a runny nose.....
Ack! K-l-e-e-n-e-x ... repeat after me ... K-l-e-e-n-e-x ...
Ya gets a slap from the angry sea bass for even suggesting my shoulder be used to treat the snuffles.
it was just a suggestion. i admit i could be wrong. seems to me tho, perhaps, shoul you ever need it, you could use my shoulder instead of your own?
Haha. I'm not leaving. Don't worry. A few people have said things to me here. But I really don't know any of you, so while I love to hear your opinions, negative personal ones really don't matter.
but cole baby, i love you, that matters right?
thank you! Misha liked it, so I kept it I think it looks a little sad, even though I'm not. But I like the black & white.
I tend to be a peace lover, though I can get rankled into a brawl if the cause is for the better of many.
Yeah, but there is a difference between leaving and being made to feel you must go ...
After all, Tantrum, what if the world were to turn on you tomorrow? Would you feel it fair, considering you have done your best just to be amicable and make a presence?
I read what was said in that other thread, and I can see how Brenda was upset by it all. Fun is fun ... but it crosses the line when someone gets an eye poked out, eh?
I'd morn the same if it were you that chose to leave tomorrow. I just hate to see good people feel like they are being pushed away.
Now ... if someone decides to become antisocial and wants to be left alone, then I am quite fine with their leave of absence, as then it's probably for the best.
I don't know if I'm explaining myself well, but it's the best I can do to explain how I feel on this topic.
Look. I've been called a lot of nasty things in this forum ,From 'sick little man ' to 'ignorant' , 'stupid', 'smart ass ', you name it. So what ???. Why should I care ? Forums are not real life. If you can't cope with people mocking you or calling you names, you shouldn't come here.these happens in the web, in every forum, and in some worse than here. Some forums don't have moderators. I think this is an over promotional drama. anyway,, they'll be back tomorrow ,or in a day or two. So why trouble yourself about this ?
He-he. My penis is bigger. Did you have a hub written just to bash you? Called something like "Mark and Misha are condescending vaginas"? I did
I don't think so, but i never looked. I can't care less !
I want a Hub written about me! Something with vagina in the title is cool, as long as its classy
Haha awesome! Let me know if you need any info
She'll probably be asking for a life history and photos
STOP IT!!!!! i am laughing so f*ing hard!!!!!!!! i dont want to wake everyone...
Ah, those were the good old days. When even the insults and flames had a bit of style!
cheers, Eric G.
What really Misha, LOL, I would love to have read that
your right. brenda feels different then how others might. she feels real bad about herself right now. right or wrong. i also am 99 percnet sure, as good as ryan meant this....SOMEBODY needs to email her!!!!! i would in sec but im on my wii and cant get email to load.
Tantrum I agree with you that it is no big deal and that there is a proper way to handle it. But that is to me. Some people are maybe more sensitive or take things to heart more than you or I.
Yes, and they shouldn't come here then. People like bad co are no good for them.I Guess he has a lot of mental issues for what I see and read. This kind of people are always hurting the weak ones, then they apologize. People forget about it and then they come again doing the same things. I'm realy fed up with this kind of behaviour !
I just think that it is pretty lame that good people leave because of immaturity in the forums. Aren't we here to write and share ideas?
And to debate with different kind of people. Not everybody is going to love us. This is not disneyworld. and I'm happy it isn't. I like it just the way it is
I could do without the name-calling. It really doesn't serve any purpose. But everyone knows my stand on that. I've been seen as lots of different things, sometimes bad things that aren't true. But you really don't know me, so I'm not going to get mad at people for making assumptions.
Firstly, Brenda is not weak. We don't know why she left and what she felt. It could be disappointment, or maybe she thinks she should find a more suitable place for her.
Then, consider that we should probably impose some restrictions on those who attack others rather then just allowing them to do according to their nature. That's why hp bans such people.
We as human beings can't help but care for those that we like and anyone who attacks them will get us angry.
Even if anger is an acid that...
Guilty as charged, as I kinda live in this odd fantasy world where I believe most of us can get along.
I know ... I know ... but I can dream, right?
BadCo has always been very nice to me, so i think he is nice. i haven't read any of those threads and don't want to because it has nothing to do with me. i suspect he is banned now, which is unfortunate. i just hope this dies down because he's not here to defend himself ;_;
I agree with you. He had always been kind to me until last night. And that was atypical behavior for him so I didn't take it seriously at all. I accepted his apology. I hope he does come back because he is a talented writer and a good person.
he might be using his 3rd persona......were all humans snd weak at times....this should so be between brenda n bc...we all said our piece
luvs ya both !!!! go on now....
ok i read a little just now...i think you became collateral damage
it's too bad that if people speak up for a friend or someone they like it's assumed they are aligned with them in some way and therefore "against" the other person. i think for the most part everyone here is a decent talented person so hopefully it will blow over soon.
you guys, but.....
that HAS to be the funniest thing ive ever read
Well, it was supposed to be a diatribe on Mark and Misha because the writer thought they were condescending C**ts, but that title would not have been allowed.
but the P.C. alternative was even funnier!
And I'm a member of this exclusive club too -
LOL Actually it was quite angry. It's long gone of course, but the whole Hubpages had some fun reading it for sure
Ryan, it's nice of you to speak on behalf of Brenda and "call her back". I suspect it will mean a lot to her, considering how much she has expressed fond regards for you and admiration of your work.
Brenda (if you see this), what about that multi-author poem Hub you were going to edit and post? I, too, was sorry to see that you seem to have deleted your account.
Jeeeez cheers guys for all the insults, I was actually in bed ill and Brenda actually started a thread asking me to log on before she deleted herself. And one of her last Forum posts was that perhaps her and Invictus had ganged up on me.
I can't believe half of this crap and I am deff not responsible for Brenda leaving. As for my behaviour and you giving me a lecture on behaviour Ryan maybe you should ask yourself why you have been banned so many times with your foul language and if I am right I myself actually talked you out of saying worse before you were banned. And if I am also correct it was a woman you were swearing at so please mate don't be a hypocrite.
Ok hands up I can be a pain in the ass and I overplay the drama but jeeeez I most certainly am not the only one. Sorry but I am not the cause of all the silliness on the Forums and I said sorry to Cole. Yes it was childish, yes I was a total shit, but I am not the only person that gets on stupid at times and you Ryan should know that better than most.
Cheers guys for stabbing the hell out of my back, was wondering why I had a pain in my back.
She hadnt ganged up on you, she was defended a fellow hubber against some completely unprovoked and unneccessary insults. If she felt that she had ganged up on you, then she was wrong, more people should have told you that you were being out of order instead of creeping around telling you how much they want PirateGirl and BadCo are. Like you were claiming diminished responsibility for HealthTips because he wasn't your usual 'ego'. Well it was still your finger tips pal, yes I have been a tit, but not to good people like Brenda Scully and BadCo, and on occassions that I have, I have apologised at some stage. Misha and Sandra Rinck have both been on the recieving end of email apologies.
You cannot relate my tempers in the religious forum against people like Atomswifey in any way to cowardly anonymous attacks on innocent and decent people. I have written everything on this forum in my own name, using my own photo. If you want to be aggressive and insulting to people on this forum, then be a man about it and do it from an account with your real name and photo. Brenda and Colebabie didnt know that they were being insulted by you, and had no reason to, until I suggested that you could be BadCo. It wasnt until I re-read that thread, before it was conveniently snipped, that I realised just how much of a dick you had been. And yes, I have been a dick before, but you know what BadCo..... I havent passed the buck. I write under my own name. Do you want me to set up an account named 'AcupunctureTips' and to start insulting people? That would make me a hypocrite.
All you need to do is put your hands up and admit that you were an idiot that night, instead you want to turn that around onto somebody who has lost somebody that care about. I regret certain incidents on this forum, are you telling me that you have lost no face at all with this incident? You lost my respect the moment you did that. You had never lost it before. For somebody that drones on constantly about whether you have lost respect or boring people, well just to let you know that you have lost mine and you have bored me. An apology to Colebabie and Brenda was deserved, and not your lame attempt, go and start a thread apologising. You never would.
Good God, again? Nothing changes in Hubdom. You can keep a ghost presence, only popping in from time to time and you are assured to find that somebody pissed off somebody else, and the other person is going to throw their toys out of the cot and delete their account, and who are they supposedly punishing by that? Then of course, you get a thread begging them to stay when they have already gone. Seriously, if you don't want to face attack and nasty repartee as happens from time to time on the forum, then don't go there. Don't join in those discussions, choose the innocuous ones. If you see someone is a bit sarcastic and cutting, then don't take them on if you can't handle it. Jeez, aren't we supposed to be all adults here?
I dont want anyone gone, cannot afford to lose on some of the good hubbers. Stay away from the forums if things are going out of hand for you. Brenda come back. Missing you around already.
I have, it's down below somewhere. I know I was a complete twat that night. I did say sorry to Cole and I would have to Brenda the next day.
Yes I guess I have lost a lot of peoples respect but what can I say Ryan, I am me, at times being a twat just comes easy to me and I can't undo things said. I do admit it was a major mistake though and one I regret obviously !
You are going to be in trouble with Fiery finds out...
Don't I know it, what can I say I overdone it on Monday night and made a complete tosser of myself. I have learnt from it though and it really wasn't funny. To be honest probably Ralwus's comment best sums me up. At the end of the day I can't undo it, I can learn from it and I hope to prove I have learnt from it. In future I am leaving Alter-Egos to others, I shall just be me.
Badco, on these forums you're writing, not speaking. Writing - even if you're a fast typist - takes several seconds longer than talking. I can understand people saying things they shouldn't in the heat of the moment, but really, as an adult you should be able to think before you hit the "submit" button.
Or maybe we've all been deceived and you're actually twelve?
I worry that these incidents have been happening too often. When you're in twat mode, please switch off your computer....
Marisa most times it's drink related, if you notice I am pretty reasonable during the daytime. Trust me in future you won't see anymore alter-ego crap.
And I promise I will pull out the plug when twatmode kicks in !
Plus I have now officially killed off the Pirate crap as well, I wish I was 12 though, life was so much easier back then !
If you can stick with just being BadCo, which I always consider to be yourself, you will have a hell of a lot of respect on here. In fact, we saw that in another thread. You are immensely popular and well liked, and talented too. BadCo is a good guy, you dont need to apologise or justify anything any further, just be yourself in future mate.
You've never lost my respect captain, but I do wonder why - when you make a gaff - you post a thread asking if you should stay or go, when you should post a message saying you messed up and you're deeply sorry.
I know your character, and I noted as much when I said in my response that you appear genuinely upset later when these things happen. However, your response is to devalue yourself and threaten withdrawel rather than to accept your human, ya want a step too far to the left, and apologies mean more than your absense at that point.
The fact that you handled this behind the scenes is all good, as again, it proves that you have a good character that wants to get along. However, everyone else saw a tiff, someone wanting to leave, and nothing saying 'I wasn't myself and I admit it' (until now).
So ... my advice good captain ... the next time you want to post 'should I leave or should I go', don't ... Just post what went wrong, why it upset you, and ask 'can we all get along again'. You'd be surprised to find the answer will probably be 'yes', as deep down you are a good soul ... quite possibly a bit of a silly irishman (and if you are not from Ireland, I apologize in advance - I guessed from your posts), but the fact is you are 'OUR' silly irishman, and we would care not to think of you leaving every other day.
So, settle down, relax, and have fun, eh?
I never posted a thread saying I was going, the post was should I keep both Alter Egos. I am from Belfast but yeah I am Irish and I wud never leave, I love writing way too much. I guess I am just full of BS, still I like to think I am a good soul. And yes FD, am off back to work now, jeeeez bossy Frog !!
I will take up Yoga ok
Regardless ... you're OUR silly irishman ... and I'd have you here before many others ... whether it be one ego, two egos, or forty ... so long as none of your egos is mine, as then there would be two of us writing endlessly long forum posts ... boring the whole lot of everyone here.
*in the voice of yoda* hhmmmmmm yoga you will do, bendy you will be
welcome back! be yourself, meaning be whoever you want to be...your pirate alter egos are fun and you speak your mind good or bad, and everyone knows it is you, which is far more courageous than doing it truly incognitoically (i just made up that word, heh). i don't lose respect for someone who speaks candidly...what i do think lowly of are people who ANONYMOUSLY attack others, which i have never seen you do. we all get our feathers ruffled on occasion, in which case just quietly drop out for a few days with little fanfare, or ignore the 'offending' person completely.
anyway, best regards, BC, and happy hubbing!
You seem to have missed the whole point cosette. I love BC to bits, but he DID anonymously attack others. This was my issue. I have a deep respect for BC and have since the day I published my first hub. In fact I consider him to be a friend, but the fact that he insulted Colebabie and Brenda Scully, from a new alter-ego.... without telling them who he was..... is the whole point of this thread. So you just confirm my point, people do not know what BC did to upset Brenda and Cole, but it is irrelevant now as BC has held his hands up and apologised and everybody can move on. Nobody knew that 'HealthTips' was BC until me, Brenda, and Colebabie twigged.... well it was me actually; and this is what the issue was. Brenda and Colebabie were very shocked and dissapointed that BC would do such a thing, and so was I, but we can all move on now.
Nobody can gather a full picture of the events, due to snipping in that thread, but 'HealthTips' said some bad things to Colebabie. Colebabie didnt know who it was. She found out it was BC eventually. And prior to this Colebabie felt that she was BC's friend. Same with Brenda. That was the whole point, this is what BadCo has done wrong.... not saying nasty things, although that is wrong, but hiding behind another login to do it. All I know is that he wont do it again, which must be a positive thing.
you're right, Ryan.
i should have refrained from commenting since i didn't have all of the facts...my apologies.
hey, the sun just came out! that's a good omen
Making promises is one thing. Carrying them out is another.
Come on guys - shit happens. Maddie Ruud must feel like a school headmistress at times.
BC knows what he's done - he's been an ass. Brenda has left but she's tougher than she looks. BC is capable of cleaning his own crap up and Brenda is capable of making informed decisions.
Public whipping posts were never any good at pouring oil on troubled waters.
The forum is a place to interact - not a public boxing ring.
Bugger off and write. That's the point of Hubpages afterall
Well, BadCo, we do know you are a good guy when it comes down to it...
Thanks UW, I guess I will just have to work hard at getting some peoples respect back. Sometimes I swear I myself am surprised at my actions, thing is I am actually a decent guy, that's what annoys me so much when I hit twat mode !
Cheers FD, I intend to get back to writing some serious stuff, I will leave the Jester Vacancy for some other fool !
Maybe my imput is not important here but I like Ryan, Brenda and Badco all for different reasons. I have to say that I have not been in the forums when Badco and his egos are at their worst. After reading through the forum links Ryan provided I can see a very drunk unhappy Badco that for some reason is lashing out and a little out of control. Brenda is a kind caring person and Ryan highly intelligent with a vast knowledge on lots of subjects which can sometimes lead to conflict. Healthy conflict I might add. Are the forums not here to banter and argue about what individuals believe in? Would you all want it as sweet words spoken to each other? maybe some would but without all 3 of you the forums would be a boring place. Come back Brenda we all miss you and you and Badco are both adults and I am sure you can put this to rest. If only you could both speak one to one I am sure you will like and gain respect for each other. We must look beneath the words and see the hurt in someone. OK my crappy speach over you can all now tell me I am talking rubbish....
I quite like Ryans way. And you're right about his knowledge etc. Sometimes I think he ends in conflict with people because he's similar Mark Knowles ... he backs his mouth up (as it were) and makes people uncomfortable. He's challenging and direct. I like to see that in a person.
Liam Bean's another. Stands his corner without spitting his dummy out.
Anyway - go on now ... get writing You especially Helen
Deff on the button about me there Helen, I really shouldn't have logged on that night. Banter etc is ok on the Forums but I wasn't haven't banter, I was taking my personal problems out on someone on Hubs, not clever and not nice and to be honest not who I really am. And your input is always welcome !
Yes I could see that in your posts you made that day. I wonder if it was aimed at me I would have felt the same as Brenda. For one I would never have known it was you and secondly I would like to think we have enough respect for each other for you not to have been this way. Perhaps hiding behind an ego is allowing you a little too much freedom in letting off steam. As BadCo you are not like this. You and Brenda should forgive and forget and become the best buddies on hubpages. You have done the right thing and appologised and now need to wait with hope that Brenda will come back as I know you are feeling really guilty and did not mean things to get out of hand. You were probably so drunk you did not know what you were writing. it was a load of drunkun ramblings lol.
P.S I really want to post a thread....BadCo and Brenda sitting in a tree K.I.S.S.I.N.G.... to insensitive or breaking the ice.
I have a long way to catch up with you. I seem to write one hub and then get worn out...off to buy some Red bull to give me wings.
Put it all behind you and come back. I know you will - when the dust settles anyway. You'll rise above it.
One of the last things that Brenda did before pulling out was to visit one of my hubs and left a message:
"It's nice when you feel Safe."
I wasn't aware of the drama that was going on; so what she said made my wonder what was on her mind.
Clearly, the altercation really upset her.
Or somebody is stalking her and she thinks the only way is to remove her account? Or am I seeing too much in her statement?
Hey Brenda, wherever you are, do come back. We all miss you.
It actually didn't as she clearly told Invictus the next morning she enjoyed the altercation. Follow the conversation between Brenda and Invictus where Brenda starts with a Good Morning, Brenda can hold her own. As for the Stay Safe, many on here get shit mail, I know I do but read her last convo with Invictus, deff the altercation didn't upset her.
http://hubpages.com/forum/topic/23551?p … post418130
" ah well showed everyone up in their true colours and i enjoy a bit of conflict every now and again..... was brought up to hold my own, not sorry i joined in, it was good for me"
It just seems to be an unusual thing to say on a hub about Intuition.
Be well Brenda
Look you lot, naff off now. Leave this alone - go write Hubs. Earn some money. Google, Hp and you will love your efforts.
Brenda is a great personality (hint: I don't know her for real) and I think enough blame game has been played for one day. The bits I picked up from Brenda is that she's no push over. She held her own with fiery - and has had the decency to devote the time to nurturing poetic abilities around the site.
Time to stop surmising and assuming. She has her reasons - respect them.
Now get back to work. Surely some of you are in the office?!
Nope Froggy, not me . Going to bed though in an hour. just want to see how everything works out and I hope everything will be really fine.
Nooooo lol! I used the word 'personality' rather than person - because I don't know Brenda in the flesh, only via HP.
Can we just clear this up, I am not Brenda, I am however.
I will write under 4 of them, btw if you are reading TK cheers for the fan as Wildlifelover
-sigh- you promised you'd never tell!
Only one of those logins has been a dickhead, so BadCo.... you are only one fifth dickhead. Which is no more dickhead than me
At least we are entertaining dickheads my friend which is not a bad thing. At least you are writing, I deff need to shift my lazy ass.
If you can call hubs about hamster cages writing then yes I am, I am filling my account with shit hubs like that to try and get to my 30 in 30...... and then I am taking a break. I've lost the spark, so when I get back after a break..... I want to see a George Best hub
The Bestie hub didn't make me one penny mate, in future it's humor with profit. Moi next hub twil be about my purchase of my massaging chair, now you can put yer imagination into how that's gonna turn out
I know that your Bestie hub didnt make you any money, you dont need to tell me that, I have about 30 footy hubs and only one made me over 50p. But I have started a series which I must finish now, and Im not enjoying it at all any more! As for serial killers..... they dont make any money either, except one, which scarily earns me quite a bit for no reason whatsoever! Education...... thats where I make my money. Course, qualifications, degrees..... need to get some of those bashed out
No amount of 'drama' in the forums can overshadow the fact that badco writes AMAZING hubs....and I hope we'll soon get to read more of his stuff. Who cares what avatar you use, as long as quality writing keeps coming through! let's all focus on what really counts here....
I think it's time we all let this go...
Ramen! Now sit at the keyboard, Badco, and give us 5 new great hubs!
You flatter me young lady, but another hub will be published tomorrow night, I have decided to mix humour with niche paying keywords. But will it work, ya never know
Oh Bad co....you'll always have my loyalty...! (hell, relationships shouldn't hang by a word here, but unfortunately they do!) yes...write....and once in a while, let the pirate meet us for a drink... u know all these men are just jealous of him!
omg...! no one seems to know anyone here anymore....!
our whole 'hub existence' is being questioned now...!
Well I'm pretty sure that you are who you say you are, and I'm pretty sure there is a bit more to myself than a rotting skull...
whew! thank god we still have some trust left! ok...just for record, I AM who i am in that pic...(taken last week from my web cam)...and those hubs I write are my own. and these posts too...have i covered all? hmm...let me see...
I'm glad I got here when I did! Theis place is falling apart. For the record, I made the skull in my pic with my own hands last year for a Halloween prop.
Everything that I have written is mine and came straight out of my twisted little mind.
All of the opinions I have and will express in the forums are mine and no one elses. If they offend you, I'm sorry. If they keep offending you, you might want to look for another thread to hang out in.
That's just me and that's how I am!
lol...ok..that clears us two.....!
(btw. impressed with the skull pic)
Thanks, It's actually sitting on my desk as we type..
u mean it's actually staring u in the face now? it's a wonder u can concentrate...
You my friend are a little diamond, methinks the Pirate Wench will pen a poem tonight, I feel one coming on, well I hope it's a poem and not something I ate !
Oh now never mind adsense earnings, 2 kisses from the hot Myownworld has made my day, back at ya xx
yes, we'll starve..but atleast, we'll have love!!
Myownworld please don't put thoughts into my head, the kiss was bad enough for my wicked mind. Catch you later hotstuff xx
I'm not sure if I'd recommend holy water or a hot tub for that one ... actually, I am sure, but I'll say the holy water instead ... (j/k)
you guys, did anybody email her?
she isn't so computer savvy...
she might not have read all this
I hope she did. I hope she saw it all and knows we all love her and her poetry.
But, what if she hasnt seen any of it?
I want to email her, but mine is broken, Ive been trying all day...
surely someone has her address? just to see if shes ok?
I know a bit ago, something happend that required my leaving suddenly. Had nothing at all to do with HP. I came back and saw a thread about me, it tickled me purple to know that people noticed my absence. BUT out of everyone here, 2 people emailed me. What if she isn't reading the forums? And no one has mailed her? How will she know?
Mate we were always going to be ok again, but just because I like you doesn't mean that I have to condone all of your actions. If I do something silly, I would want you to say something too.... Im sure it will happen again soon, so I await your ticking off Make sure you let me know how your hubs get on, and drop me an email some time.... I will talk to you a little more about what is working for me adsense wise when you are in that kind of mood, not that I think you need me too.... you know damn well how to make money on here.
Brenda is a real nice person and I hope that she will come back soon.Dear Brenda,here in hubpage many people come and go, but I feel like everyone is my family member,I think many hubber feel the same way too.As far as badco's attitude is concerned though he is a movie star, there lives a real person inside him.Dear Badco,if your clearly remember or not about our debate on flagging a anorexic hub,at the end I realized that how supportive and appreciative you can be to a person with good intention.Where is that badco,.. or this could be another drama preplanned by you and Brenda-i hope not so.thanks to all...
The reasons I don't come here on the threads much anymore. All people do is start drama and I'm sick of it! So yes I am done with the forums...just going to stick to posting my hubs. And yes brenda come back!
after that one, right?
you say your done, but its so much fun!!!
I have been done soooo many times, glutton for pain I suppose. How are ya?
Anyone who has survived the shoe and purse monsters can handle the forums.
What a load of bollocks, seen it a hundred times.
(note to self) 'Avoid the HP forums at all costs'.
'it's nice when you feel safe'
Hey DM, long time no see, how you doing? I've been lifting furniture all day and am sore all over, lol.
No, I don't have it, never really spoke to her, but she seemed a nice sort, bit dippy, but in a nice way.
p.s. I nearly had a heart attack when BC said he was also Redneckman, for a minute I thought it said redneckwmn, lol.
I haven't time to read all about this but I really hope Brenda does come back!
Ryan, people are not taking sides on this one, stop making it an issue?
Everyone wants Brenda to come back, most everyone has voted for BC and Company to stay as is or in revision, it's his choice, whether you like it or not, they are family, just quit building a case and go to a forum more applicable to your need to debate...like politics or religion...let the "Artsy" genius types express themselves as they wish...deal? No more arguing, it's over and you don't even know it...
Ryan and I have already made up Deborah-Lynn jeeez this thread has been running longer than any television soap.
Your post seems incredibly naïve. Maybe it’s just me. Some things did indeed need to be said.
I don't think her post was naive Mcrayne, Deborah just missed the other thread or should I say threads that were floating about. I think at last count 5 were on the go at one time.
I appreciate you feeling protective of Deborah-Lynn. I stand by “naïve” however, or perhaps "uninformed". I almost always choose my words carefully.
I was going to say, we can agree to disagree, but I guess we can’t since you fanned, then unfanned me. I’ve been very supportive of you on past forum threads, and even tonight, through email with a friend. I’m not your only (former?) friend or fan that thinks you need to knuckle down and take a good look at your actions of late. Reflection, apologies, and such have taken place in these never ending forum threads. Some people are unaffected, and others have made peace, and decisions one way or another. Yes, I think it’s naïve or uninformed for Deborah-Lynn to think she can say when the community is done.
No it's over and YOU don't even know it
In fact, it doesn't sound like you know much at all, but that doesn't matter because you don't "take sides" or anything, its just that I have to go to a different forum because I have upset BadCo? Your saying that you don't think I should be allowed to enter the Hubber's Hangout? Very impartial that Deborah. But I wouldn't like to accuse you of "taking sides". I guess I am just not "artsy" enough to act like a dick? No its not a deal, it couldnt be any further from a deal, I dont bargain my rights to communicate.
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